IG Conversation w/ potential UTR

[nujerz84]

I've never cold called a request, only asked about meeting after having already exchanged unrelated messages over a period of at least a month. Have found a good success rate with this approach.

   Strange approach

I use a similar approach and have good success as well

    Delighted for you

You do what you think works best..idk for me contacting someone you had no interaction with randomly with an offer..is great way to get blocked, ignored and/or screen shot and posted to be made fun of.

Having some form of communication/interaction is far better than none. That even if she says say no when asked its still more along the lines of being flattered that they were asked and we still talk, as opposed to her say "Fuck off weirdo" and blocked.

[nujerz84]

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[FemFlexUSA]

That being said, I agree with nujerz about the cost and added expenses for someone who is UTR. Last year I discussed flying to me an all-but-retired from sessionette I know well who has a fulltime job now. The plan was to fly her in (I'd use frequent flyer miles); and book a hotel near the airport (one night). She'd give me a break on the tribute and I'd probably drive her to and from the airport, especially when I suggested I'd have no problem with her doing sessions with others. (The plan was to session with her the afternoon she check in and the morning she checked out.) Our schedules didn't match last  year but maybe this summer.

Did you run into any entitlement (high maintenance) issues in terms of travel? For example, she wants you to pay for her meals, for a weekend gym pass, she wants you to fly her first class, or whatever. I know some girls fly as cheap as possible (Frontier/Spirit) and I wouldn't fly them in on that. But I might rather just fly to them if they demanded only direct flights (let's say a 1-stop itinerary saves you $200 or something). I might also get nervous about her trying to book back-to-backs and push your time around or whatever. Most girls wouldn't do this, but some need the money enough that they would try to stack as many sessions up as possible.

You're cheap, and I get that - shit's expensive - but man, if there's a nonstop available, you should provide that for a fly-in, no question.

The funniest part of your post is your use of the term "entitlement issues" when you're so obviously NOT putting any sort of real-world value on her time and the general hassle of air travel.

I am not saying a client ought to pay $300/hour for the total time she's traveling, but it's entirely reasonable to pay some travel premium that's separate from the session fee. If a girl comes to see me, she knows she's getting $1000 for the trip alone. $500 per travel day to make my life more convenient is a major value-add.

[abracadabra]

That being said, I agree with nujerz about the cost and added expenses for someone who is UTR. Last year I discussed flying to me an all-but-retired from sessionette I know well who has a fulltime job now. The plan was to fly her in (I'd use frequent flyer miles); and book a hotel near the airport (one night). She'd give me a break on the tribute and I'd probably drive her to and from the airport, especially when I suggested I'd have no problem with her doing sessions with others. (The plan was to session with her the afternoon she check in and the morning she checked out.) Our schedules didn't match last  year but maybe this summer.

Did you run into any entitlement (high maintenance) issues in terms of travel? For example, she wants you to pay for her meals, for a weekend gym pass, she wants you to fly her first class, or whatever. I know some girls fly as cheap as possible (Frontier/Spirit) and I wouldn't fly them in on that. But I might rather just fly to them if they demanded only direct flights (let's say a 1-stop itinerary saves you $200 or something). I might also get nervous about her trying to book back-to-backs and push your time around or whatever. Most girls wouldn't do this, but some need the money enough that they would try to stack as many sessions up as possible.

You're cheap, and I get that - shit's expensive - but man, if there's a nonstop available, you should provide that for a fly-in, no question.

The funniest part of your post is your use of the term "entitlement issues" when you're so obviously NOT putting any sort of real-world value on her time and the general hassle of air travel.

I am not saying a client ought to pay $300/hour for the total time she's traveling, but it's entirely reasonable to pay some travel premium that's separate from the session fee. If a girl comes to see me, she knows she's getting $1000 for the trip alone. $500 per travel day to make my life more convenient is a major value-add.

I'm giving one example. It could be she'll only be willing to fly out at a certain time of day when flights are twice as expensive. Or refuses to fly out of the city airport and will only fly out of the airport in her suburb which makes things double the cost. Could be anything. No need for drama here about this. I simply asked if the travel arrangements were going to be relatively straightforward, or if it seemed like it would be a headache to deal with.

You can use Jade of London as an example. At least according to her profile, for FMTY she asks for gym access, hotel, and flights, plus a minimum of 5 sessions. I'm guessing that's quite a bit more than one night of hotel costs. I wouldn't be surprised if she asks for first-class flights either. When I saw her (in her own city), on top of her very high fees, she was trying to hit me up for a bunch more money at the last minute for transportation. People will always try to get more money or perks if they feel they can.

And if you want to get into a stupid argument, for the record, the last time I flew out to see someone, I chose the flight with a stop because the direct flight was going to require me to get up at 6 AM on a Saturday. A little extra time boarding/deplaning and sitting at an extra airport was worth me getting some extra sleep. (Plus I would have had to sit around for 2+ hours before hotel check-in with the direct flight anyway.) It's not all apples-to-apples.

[diggs]

Personally. I know many ladies charge more and get it but I've never paid more than $100 for a custom video (anywhere from 5-15 minutes long). But for the right woman, sure, I could see paying more.

$300 for 5 minutes is a lot, though. That's $3600/hour. That's CEO money.

[abracadabra]

sure, but it doesn't scale like that. I once ordered a 10 minute custom from someone for $200 ... I later did 2 hours of filming my own customs with her for $800 (normal session price). wasn't quite 2 hours of footage since I was moving the cameras around between clips and so on. anyway, people are usually buying a one-off short video ... not that rate for a full hour. Not that $300 isn't overpriced, but with inflation, you can barely get anyone to do anything these days for $100.

[liftcarryfan1]

Don't know if I posted this here before or not but I once ended up scheduling and seeing a gorgeous woman UTR through IG.  At the time she was off season, 5'9 and about 20-210.  Beautiful sensual/sexual woman.  Super strong, lots of lifts and sensual play. 

I won't be saying who it is, and don't DM me about it.  Once she got into a relationship she said no more sessions and she is now Happily married. 

But MAN!!!!!! what an experience!

The most I ever payed for a session ($500) but well worth it and NO time limit

[DCReviews]

Such a shame she's out of the scene!