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Denise Rutkowski

Started by ytsejam, February 09, 2007, 07:58:19 AM

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For those interested in reading, here's an article on FBBing and how it described Denise Rutkowski at her peak (as shown above): You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login


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Yes....
The aesthetic vs the sexual has always been two driving forces in both men's and ladies bodybuilding.  Once you drift into the sexual , unfortunately there is a degrading of the gift of her aesthetics/development which involved an enormous effort on top of the natural gift.  There were few with the natural gift.  To take away from that would be a shame.

The sexual muscles out there are a dime a dozen...the gifted in form and development are few.  Denise is one.  That is what needs to hit the mark in a presentation of this woman as one of the all time greatest women in bodybuilding.
Alison

Personally, the crux of the matter- as I see it- is what these individual FBBers preferred and hence, displayed on stage. Denise's symmetry, muscle density and development are certainly not up for discussion but here is the question, bearing in mind her pre-bodybuilding background, did she chose to present her package in a way that came across as promiscuous, I mean look up her 1993 Ms Olympia performance on youtube (the one with carla dunlap commentating) and you would unmistakably see Denise (In Carla Dunlap's words): "Treading the line between what is acceptable on stage, and what isn't."  With that being said, what is to stay that this didnt put her at odds with the judges?


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Definitely an inspiration for many!
Good point DR Fan, .
Back in the early 1980's FBB posing took a turn of it's own away from that of men's standard posing presentation.   There was an enormous creativity in transitions that you saw in women's contest posing routines.  You did not see this in the men's arena.   Those gals with some natural dance talent had an advantage.  Carla Dunlap was a synchronized swimmer. Mary Roberts was a ballet dancer.  Obviously Cory Everson had dance coaching. Deborah Dianna another talent in this regard.  Presentation then became a huge factor that could separate the wheat form the chaff in  women's competition.  Each gal used what they had to their greatest advantage ( as Perry Raider would say) .  Now this was an eye opener for sure !   Gals had a sexual allure just standing there...add to that movement.  Now if a sexual move was the movement possibly that might have blown a few judicial circuits.....it might have been more than they wanted to see that early in the game.  Keep in mind how strong the commercial element was in promotion.  The monied powers that promoted wanted girls on their covers and inn their articles that the majority of women would like to emulate, and thus sell their mags and products. .   Pole dancing styles might not have been their cup of tea...thus the push-back.

This is merely my own theory here.  Denise's posing style may well have disadvantaged her tad . 

ALISON

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Good point DR Fan, .
Back in the early 1980's FBB posing took a turn of it's own away from that of men's standard posing presentation.   There was an enormous creativity in transitions that you saw in women's contest posing routines.  You did not see this in the men's arena.   Those gals with some natural dance talent had an advantage.  Carla Dunlap was a synchronized swimmer. Mary Roberts was a ballet dancer.  Obviously Cory Everson had dance coaching. Deborah Dianna another talent in this regard.  Presentation then became a huge factor that could separate the wheat form the chaff in  women's competition.  Each gal used what they had to their greatest advantage ( as Perry Raider would say) .  Now this was an eye opener for sure !   Gals had a sexual allure just standing there...add to that movement.  Now if a sexual move was the movement possibly that might have blown a few judicial circuits.....it might have been more than they wanted to see that early in the game.  Keep in mind how strong the commercial element was in promotion.  The monied powers that promoted wanted girls on their covers and inn their articles that the majority of women would like to emulate, and thus sell their mags and products. .   Pole dancing styles might not have been their cup of tea...thus the push-back.

This is merely my own theory here.  Denise's posing style may well have disadvantaged her tad . 

ALISON


With all due respect, Carla Dunlap seems to be pissed off by Denise's routine so much so that she only started complementing her after being asked to discuss Denise's strong points by the other commentator..she also referred to Ben Weider not wanting performers to crawl on stage which is something Denise incorporated in all of her 3 1993 contests (USA NPC, JAN TANA, MS O).

Bodybuilding not entailing some sort of sexual overtone or connotation seems slight naive thinking because in essence we are talking about performs with more than perfect bodies displaying their packages in swimsuits and considering how the human body is hardwired, perceiving it as sexual is certainly involuntarily inevitable to a certain extent i am afraid.

However when one just glimpse at her tappings with WPW and RM, you could easily acknowledge that "sexuality" was what she was aiming for, heck she even stated- in verbatim-:" I hope I turned you arm men, glute men,...every kind of body part me." Further reinforcement below.  She could have tammed her enthusiasm a bit, this might have helped her career, yet in saying that we are changing who she is and this is not the objective. we are here to respect what she delivered to sport, not degrade nor alter her image.



alison brundage

The aesthetics of perfect human form does not have to be sexual.  Look at the Grecian study of body form.  Consider the study of body form in schools of art. 

Denise did promote herself sexually in many different venues from contests to off stage internet etc.   That form of self promotion may well have hurt her in her standing and as well her sucess in top  promotion by the mainstream commercial entities as both Rachael and Cory had received. .  It is what it is.  She brought it on herself willingly.  Who knows if she may now regret it.

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The aesthetics of perfect human form does not have to be sexual.  Look at the Grecian study of body form.  Consider the study of body form in schools of art. 

Denise did promote herself sexually in many different venues from contests to off stage internet etc.   That form of self promotion may well have hurt her in her standing and as well her sucess in top  promotion by the mainstream commercial entities as both Rachael and Cory had received. .  It is what it is.  She brought it on herself willingly.  Who knows if she may now regret it.

In a sense, it shouldn't all be contemptible; maybe she just wanted to carve a niche for herself and with the trajectory of FBBing through the 2000s its easy to see others such as Denise Masino, Angela Salvagno, Gayle Moher who walked her path by taking the "other side" of bodybuilding to a whole different level, unfortunately, there will always be demand for that "other side". Essentially, I think Denise would have been more successful had she emerged during the 2004-onwards bodybuilding trend especially with the proliferation in the usage of the internet, she would have resorted to "self-promotion" and basically sidestepped the need to be recognized by the monied entities who come with their own set of baggage. Anyway, its all said and done now.   

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Something i thought worth sharing: After scouring the net I came across a posing demonstrations dvd titled Perfect Posing which featured Denise Rutkowski as one of demonstrators...its an 84-min long video so i decided to include on the segments Denise featured in which might have made the video a bit disjointed, anyway, the audio has been left unmuted although background music was added, resolution quality is not the best but its better than nothing, right? enjoy.




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great video!! thanks man!!

Glad you liked it, if you want to view the whole dvd just search for perfect posing on YouTube before it gets taken down...

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Lenda Murray? Cory Everson? No no NO...Feast your eyes upon this goddess! Enjoy....

will upload the actual pdfs in the upcoming days..Guys does anyone know where the 1991 orange county DVD could be bought from?


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DENISE RUTKOWSKI GUEST POSING AT THE 1994 FIBO IN GERMANY (INTERVIEW AND SHORT POSING ROUTINE INCLUDED):


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This along with her appearance at the GoodNight America show are undeniable testament to her intention of competing in the 1994 Ms Olympia, as opposed to the current consensus which insists that Denise quit bodybuilding and "found religion" straight after the lose to Lenda...as expected, she was the biggest gal at the event which also featured Lenda. enjoy

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amazing quads and glutes...might get the full photoset soon  :)

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Took me some time to actually ascertain that this was really her but after zooming in, I'd say this is most definitely her...
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A recently surfaced throwback story, through facebook post, by former FBBer Heather Tristany:
QuoteA behind the scene #TBT story of a photoshoot with AWESOME athlete Denise Rutkowski....Oh..the things I remember!. LOL!! ..Soooo...here we go...
After the 1993 #NPC USA Championships, which Denise took home the 1st HW & Overall title (moi was lost somewhere in the line-up like in 10Th), the usual slew of magazine photoshoots followed the day after "contest" and throughout the following week. One of those photoshoots was located at the Santa Monica, Ca. studio of glamour, playboy photographer Harry Langdon.
Larry frequently did cover shoots and feature pictorial shoots for Muscle and Fitness Magazine and FLEX Magazine. Big Lou Ferrigno, Denise and several other athletes including moi were included on the shoot.
Given it was a BIG shoot, The Master Blaster himself, Joe Weider was present to orchestrate things. And. Joe was a "hands-on" participant when it came to assisting athletes in photos shoots. And I mean "hands on" both figuratively and..well... literally.
At one point during the shoot Denise was about to be photographed solo. She was wearing a shimmering gold bikini. As she started to pose, Joe observed she needed more oil on her skin in order to maximize her spectacular physique for the photos. Hence, Larry and all the rest of us on the shoot waited as Joe got "hands-on" oiling up Denise.
Now, if you're a bodybuilding fan you will know "oiling up" for an athlete is akin to being a chicken on a rotisserie except the chicken doesn't move. In this case, the athlete Denise, stood relatively still as Joe circled around her oiling her up. This, is when the shoot truly became memorable!
Eventually, Joe ended up at her chest. And boi oh boi...as he vigorously and enthusiastically patted oil on her impressive pecs her boobs began bouncing up and down like two hyperactive kids on a trampoline at Chucky Cheeses. The expression on Denise's face - PRICELESS!!!
All of us witnessing this spectacle giggled as Denise stood there giving us the "WTF?? look while Joe did the "hands-on". There was nothing salacious about what he was doing, it was just part of "the job" getting a great pic.
None the less, the way her boobs were bouncing all around was a testimony for bikini glue. At any given moment it appeared as if her boobs are gonna pop out of her top! And. What Denise gonna say as this gratuitous display continued??? "Hey! Stop it!!!"...Nooooooo. After all, it was THE Master Blaster oiling her up!
To say the least, it was very impressive Denise kept her composure as we all looked on with amusement. It was quite the visuals. Yep. This behind the scene story from "golden era" of #FBB is "golden" just like Denise's posing bikini was :-)
Oh... and this pic here? This is from a "lifestyle shoot" taken a day or two after the Langdon shoot with photographer .... was it you Ralph DeHaan or perhaps Paula Crane?? The dogs belonged to a passer by who loaned them to use as props for the shoot. Denise and I both laughed at the fact neither of us had dogs. Nor did either of us jog.  :-)
#bodybuildingoldschool #bodybuilding #champions #photoshoot #goldenyears #oldschool
#muscularwomen #femalebodybuildling #hardbodies #earnedit
#gyminspiration #golift




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Ha Ha...great story...thanks for the post !

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