Denise Rutkowski

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Took care of the nudity part of these pictures which I posted long ago oblivious to the forum rules, anyway, just wanted to point out the amazing size and symmetry she had long before she went pro (and got implants)...


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[oriander2000]

Those (awesome) pictures you just posted are probably the cause she never got awarded an Olympia title...one things is to have some nude/erotic shots, and other to have a background as a stripper, and quite a catalogue as a sessionist / who knows what else.

The judges must have been aware that fbb is a contest where seminude women are there to just show their bodies, but somewhere they drew the line...a very grey, blurry and many times fluctuating line.

Not that I agree, though. The second half of the 80s got monopolized by the Eversons Co. (six freaking years!), which I think sprouted a whole wave of frustrated fbbs.

[DRF]

All of us would like to know what happened (and is happening) to the ones we saw at greats.  Well that may never happen unless they chose to show themselves and discuss their after-FBB lives.   Not many of the old timers do, as far as I know.   So lets just bury the thing and say she was in fact one of the all time greats in the sport.  Works for me.   Cory is another one.  Nothing is heard from her in recent years......so let it rest.   Remember them for how they wish to be remembered.   
...and think the best of them in every regard.
Alison

The aberrational nature of Denise's retirement stirred enough controversy to keep people debating, questioning and sadly, whimsically hypothesising for years. Even though I think the issue might have subsided and cooled off, the emergence of the supposed mugshots all but reignited the debate and since her released image, again supposedly, portrayed a detrimental effect, many people started roller-coasting through their fantasies and came back with hollywood narratives[Yes, i.e. I came across an account claiming Denise was so intoxicated one night that she evaded arrest by outwrestling law enforcement officers...Give me a break] disguised and delivered to us as actual causes. But whats more disconcerting is how easily people are duped by these accounts, showing little to no willingness to even attempt to cross-check or second guess such falsehoods. Immediately this all snowballs and we start having youtube clips in several languages under a common misnomer: "Steroid Junkie turns to Homeless Crackhead" all in hopes of bolstered subscription rates and a broadened viewership base. Anyway, we are all better off left to our own devices, just hope that we could somehow put a lid on the imaginative speculation to prevent it from proliferating even further. 

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Those (awesome) pictures you just posted are probably the cause she never got awarded an Olympia title...one things is to have some nude/erotic shots, and other to have a background as a stripper, and quite a catalogue as a sessionist / who knows what else.

The judges must have been aware that fbb is a contest where seminude women are there to just show their bodies, but somewhere they drew the line...a very grey, blurry and many times fluctuating line.

Not that I agree, though. The second half of the 80s got monopolized by the Eversons Co. (six freaking years!), which I think sprouted a whole wave of frustrated fbbs.

If I recall correctly- DONT HOLD ME TO THIS- I think it was the late Shelley Beattie or Kathy Unger that once said: "the only thing certain [about what the judges are going to be looking for from year to year as part of their judging criteria] is uncertainty" i think the word 'inconsistency' was thrown in there as well. As for Cory, okay I will give her credit for the 1987 Ms. O as she was just in a total mismatch with her rivals and in a league of her own altogether but in 1989 against Sandy Riddell that was a blatant screwjob even though the judges rationale might've been that sandy was unfeminine due to size but seriously Cory looked way out-of-shape, they should've at least compensated Sandy for her effort which was discernibly a multiple of what cory put into this contest. As for Denise, okay Lenda Murray looked great on that day and Denise just simply crashed and burned after winning both the 1993 Ms. USA and Jan Tana, it would've been ungrateful of her not be content with second place during her first try and as they say what happened later is history.

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Some makeshift wallpapers....

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Denise once claimed that she had "The biggest and best biceps in the industry" agree?

Here, Denise emphasises the need for "squeezing at the top" when doing curls


Denise churning out curl after curl with her pumped up arms
Here Denise motions and says put you in a headlock

I don't think Denise ever placed below a third place in any contest, amazing




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Amazing find, outstanding arms

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[musclefan789]

So true. Cory was not in the same league. I guess they were protecting their investment. Must have been really tough to know you could/should have won. It was not the money but the prestige and marketing that went with it.

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Some more pics which may or may not have been posted somewhere here already...as always Denise busting out them reps 

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So true. Cory was not in the same league. I guess they were protecting their investment. Must have been really tough to know you could/should have won. It was not the money but the prestige and marketing that went with it.

The judging aspect of the Ms Olympia was- possibly still is(personally I'm not even a casual follower now)- more akin to a melting pot of amorphous judging criteria and prejudice. Denise was unlucky because she competed at a critical junction in time which saw a nascent emergence of, and shift towards, a more unfeminine, bulkier and striated generation- diminishing the line between female and male bodybuilding- of bodybuilders which ultimately became normalised by the judges. Naturally, the women as I see it were then forced to make sacrifices in order to physically align their bodies with the new required norm and genetically for women it would be an excruciatingly high and rugged mountain to climb, if not to say a goal downright impossible to reach. Nevertheless, they succumbed to the temptation to staring cutting corners albeit under full awareness of the detrimental bodily consequences that have to be borne out just to stay ahead in the game. In Denise's situation, the 1993 NPC USA was a point in case; her body was just outrageously jacked that one commentator even compared her to Flex Wheeler obviously it would be politically incorrect to use the word steroids on air so the commentator I think tongue in cheek attributed Denise's Physique to powerlifting, bone structure and genetics...what? 

Still when I say Cory ONLY in 1987 Ms O was in a league of her own, I mean in relation to the respective rivals she came head-to-head up against but collectively, I think had Denise stayed on track and won the affection of the judges, she might have racked up twice the trophies Cory claimed.

[alison brundage]

Yes.   Sad but true.  Unfair I guess.  It just was.  Many gals persisted....others folded up camp.   If the goal was to win the medal/trophy/fame and fortune, so may girls stayed in too long for their own good.  It takes a toll mentally and physically not to mention in relationships.  If the goal is personal: ie. joy of the sport.... well then my hat's  off to them.   Gals like Mary Ellen Jarumbo.  Decades of hard work without winning the big top honor of "the best".   Those gals are to be commended.
ALISON

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Some wings and Bis, no clothing can contain her size...hell not even her skin seems to be able to contain her Bis

Yes.   Sad but true.  Unfair I guess.  It just was.  Many gals persisted....others folded up camp.   If the goal was to win the medal/trophy/fame and fortune, so may girls stayed in too long for their own good.  It takes a toll mentally and physically not to mention in relationships.  If the goal is personal: ie. joy of the sport.... well then my hat's  off to them.   Gals like Mary Ellen Jarumbo.  Decades of hard work without winning the big top honor of "the best".   Those gals are to be commended.
ALISON

In one of the youtube videos, Denise says during an interview  that she loves competing for the sake of being on stage and that she does it for herself...doesn't really say much since we're looking at it retrospectively. 

[DRF]

The only few capable of this mind to muscle technique are Alina Popa and Heather Armbrust but from the generation, and from the onset of FBBing, Denise competed in none had the- or at least displayed their- capability. Even though Laura Bass and Claudia Profanter did wonders with their triceps on stage...back to Denise, I think she had this capability well before her BBing days as proven by her exotic dance videos (the one featuring her with an orange dress and white thong on)

The characteristics Denise combined simply render her flat-out inimitable.

[cybrwrld666]

Dude, are you obsessed with this woman or something? You talk about her as if she's superhuman when all weightlifters are just regular people. She was just someone who hit the weights, tried it, then moved on. Sorry to be blunt and I applaud you for keeping her in high opinion, but anyone can look like this if you hit the weights, plan out your schedule and diet etc and stay the course.

[DRF]

Dude, are you obsessed with this woman or something? You talk about her as if she's superhuman when all weightlifters are just regular people. She was just someone who hit the weights, tried it, then moved on. Sorry to be blunt and I applaud you for keeping her in high opinion, but anyone can look like this if you hit the weights, plan out your schedule and diet etc and stay the course.

Another unsolicited opinion 

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I think one thing that might put her at odds with the judging panel was her posing routine which veered away from what they deemed was permissible on stage and specifically I referring to her crawling in the 93 Ms Olympia which was outlawed. Anyway, she did it both at the 93 Jan Tana and Ms USA and walked away unaffected. But the Ms. O might've been a bit too far seeing as it is the most prestigious FBBing accolade. 

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