Relative Strength

[Pinme]

It's so funny when some guy says all men can beat all women.  Of course there are many women who are stronger or better fighters than many men.  Here is my guess.   While "strength" or "fighting skill" depends on how you measure it, I would propose that there is a bell curve for men and a bell curve for women, and that men are on average stronger, maybe largely because they are bigger.  In any case here is my guess.  I would guess that the average woman is stronger than the weakest 5% of men, and 5% of strongest women are stronger than the average man.  What do you think?   

[Pinme]

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[warriorhari]

I guess most FBBs are stronger than average men

[KnicksGiants]

If both male and female strength are normally distributed with the same variance, I might put the mean female strength level around two sigma below the mean male strength level and get your result. However, I don't think the same variance assumption is a good one for male versus female strength distributions considering, for example, that the best male raw benchers lift a little over 700lbs while the best female raw benchers around 400lbs. Also, Lawrence Summers made a fairly convincing case for the male intelligence distributions to have greater variance than that for females. I'd tend to believe males are more extreme-- in what matters, anyway.

[zig563]

In peak years I would say the bigger fbbs were stronger than the average guy...whatever that is. That would apply to weightlifting mainly. I'm not sure how many of them could use the strength well in a leverage event. Some could and others I met stunk at that. The strength did not translate. I'm way above average strength and some fbbs (with roids of course) could outlift me in a few lifts...especially lower body leg machines. There is great variance in strength amongst fbbs..especially is using it. They did some nice lifts for sure. I saw a girl do incline benches for reps at 275 once with free weights and she was not a name bodybuilder. Funny story as that turned out. She was a roid girl I'm sure who was being trained by a male bb, but she was pretty attractive. The whole gym was talking about her or looking. She was super strong and looked it. As strong as most any fbb. She was a 1 time visitor and I never got her name. I think she was in wpw once, but was not 100% sure it was her.....in the tidbits section.

[Pinme]

I would note that I observed Yasmin leg press 1000 pounds, and Cindi Huntress dumbbell curl 60 pounds for multiple reps.  Neither is a roidal FBB and I think these lifts are more than the average man could do.

[jpmorgan]

Did you see Cindy huntress dumbbell curl 60 in person?

Or in a video? I mean 60 lbs seems a lot for a girl who is not huge and on roods.

jeez then I guess a session with her could be a real ass whooping.

[zig563]

60 is more than an average man can do. Wow. Average man is weak. That is a good lift for Cindy's size. No doubt. She's not a roid girl at all. You always have to watch form and how many reps. Cheating is fairly easy on curls in particular. 60 is not impossible to my mind for Cindy tho. If we are talking an avg man under 60 in curls, then every fbb on the planet can do 60....that I ever so. Some without roids.

[Jkenn]

 Zig,

That's a 60lb DUMBBELL curl which means 60 in each hand, thus a 120lb curl. The avg. American man is 5'10 and 180lbs.  That means the avg. man would have to curl close to 70% of his body weight.

[zig563]

60 per arm. I'm finding that hard to believe. Average man can not do that. I took it as 60 only. Did not see dumbell word....dumbell here. I can't see Cindy doing that honestly. Many fbbs could not, though many could. Was it a photo op or phot you saw or was it her at the gym actually doing it...or footage of such? That changes it by double and amends my statement that most men not doing that is lame. 60 is no biggie if you are strong, but not for an average guy...whatever that is still.

[Pinme]

Cindy and I went to a health club together and I observed her curl 60 pound dumbbells - yes, dumbbells -  multiple times with good form.  She is very strong.  Of course, she is probably in the top 1% of the top 1% of women, but she is proof that a sexy woman can be very strong.   

[crazycrazy]

I can't add anything about Cindy's arm strength, as 60 pounds seems superhuman given her size.  But Cindy's scissors were the strongest I've ever felt.  Stronger than Rene Toney or any other bodybuilder I've met.  Cindy said that the steroids gave them massive size, but they didn't have the same strength as natural muscle.  Some of the other drugs the bodybuilders take for dehydration certainly weaken them, and it doesn't help to gain weight off-season and then diet for contests.

[laughaboutidiots]

  Cindy said that the steroids gave them massive size, but they didn't have the same strength as natural muscle. 

thats real funny 

[zig563]

It seems hard to believe on Cindy, but not beyond the realm. If Pinme says he saw it, then I'll take his word for me. It isn't like we haven't seen some women do alot more, but not with Cindy's build. She was stronger than she looked which people always said...I just did not think that much stronger. She would fit the bill of beating the average man even though she's smaller.

[shadowspider33]

Hi Pinme, do you know Cindy personally? If so do you know if she would be available for some sessioning still in Vancouver?
Thanks bud

[Pinme]

I believe Cindy is no longer accepting session requests.  Too bad, cause she is a fun and amazing woman and entertainer.