Ideas to solve the timewaster / bot / impersonator problem on SessionGirls

[session_safe]

Jennifer proposed the idea of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to thwart this problem, but this will cause more problems than it solves. There are actually SEVERAL potential solutions to this problem. I am outlining a few possible solutions, maybe we can use a combination of them. Generally, "preventing the problem" is a better solution than "fixing the problem after it happens." We also want to incentivize the right behavior.

There should be a SessionGirls "form" for booking a session


The form can just list:
- What is wanted in session
- times available
- number of hours, etc

And the system can automatically enter in the guy's profile stuff like weight, height, age, etc. Jennifer can charge a certain amount for each successful session - much more efficient than charging monthly fees for guys for simply BROWSING.

SessionGirls should use reputation lists - not timewasters lists
The system as it works now is totally reversed. Timewaster lists are totally useless because new email accounts can so easily be created to evade the ban. Instead, the guy should establish a new account and girl should rate the guy's profile after the session. This incentivizes the guy to behave properly, thus fixing the problem at the source.

New girl accounts should have a "pending verification" banner
This prevents guys from getting scammed in the first place, as they know the account is new. The girl can have a "x number of successfully completed bookings" banner on her profile.

ID verification
Girls has to show picture of ID to be on SessionGirls. Not sure if girls will go for it, but we can leave it as an option on the table. If she does, it gives her new profile greater weight.

We can even offer this option for guys, although I realize more guys would probably be more uptight about that. Still, there might be enough of an incentive for some guys to do it, as it would increase the probability of a girl accepting the session.

Charge a verification fee to the girl
Make the girl pay $50, or something. After, say, 2 successful sessions, she gets her $50 back.

Use cryptocurrency for deposits
(More technically complicated to implement, but can be done). Cryptocurrency can handle the "stolen deposit problem" quite elegantly through the use of smart contrats. The system uses three keys: guy, girl, and SessionGirls. Guy deposits to an escrow blockchain before he sessions. If there is a dispute regarding the release of the funds to the girl, SessionGirls gets involved. 2 of out of 3 keys have to sign in order for the escrowed funds to be released to the rightful party. This method already works on systems like Bisq, if everyone has ever used that.

Fraud detection algorithms
I am not too deeply familiar with specific algorithms, but you can feed a bunch of data into AI like:
- ip address
- paypal/venmo/cashapp address
- vpn
- writing style, etc

Basically you give it a bunch of information and it gives you a score showing how risky the transaction is. Credit card companies have been doing this for decades and it works pretty well in the real world. Even more so now, in the day and age of AI.

"Report suspicious behavior"
There should be a "Report suspicious behavior" banner on every new profile. Sometimes "the crowd" can spot problems that somehow the mods missed.

AI moderation
Jennifer does everything manually, which is insane in this day and age of AI. AI handles summarization and role playing particularly well. Particularly with the new models. We can feed the message history into AI where you can give it a list of rules and policies and ask it to:
- summarize
- "play the role of a judge, form a judgment, and explain why it came to that conclusion. Site specific policies that need to be applied"
- source the facts

AI can literally do 80% of the work for each dispute. Having humans read through all the message history is insane. Basically, the AI sources and sites the revelant data and the human makes the final decision.

"sign in through facebook/twit***/insta****/google"
SessionGirls uses an antiquated login system (wordpress, ugh). One that is easily signed in by bots. The big social media companies (facebook/twit***/insta****/google/whatever) have much more sophisticated approach to handling bots - let them worry about the headache. A "login through social media" approach will both establish a girl's prior history AND handle the "a bot created this profile" problem better than SessionGirls can.


These are my ideas. If anyone has any others, by all means share them.

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[stanislr]

I think that the main issue with those ideas is that most of them (except for maybe the form) will probably cost more for the implementation than the potential savings.

Id verification either happens through an external provider or it can become messy very quickly.

Implementing AI means paying token bills, not to mention some serious privacy concerns.

The social login can be easily done on a Wordpress website, but for real, who would use their personal profile for this?

[session_safe]

Implementing AI means paying token bills, not to mention some serious privacy concerns.

The social login can be easily done on a Wordpress website, but for real, who would use their personal profile for this?

I don't think AI has bigger privacy concerns than email. In fact, AI is probably used to "read" your gmail.

Social login can be done through a worpdress login. If the guy prefers anonyminity, he can create a new social media account and that can be his alias.

And the cost of tokens is WAY cheaper than having a human doing. By several orders of magnitude. Also, different models are cheaper than others and the summarization ones, like gtp-4o-mini is something like $0.60 per million output tokens.

[Zenzen]

As a software developer, I think there are several solid ideas here, especially those that focus on preventing abuse rather than reacting to it after the fact.

The booking form would be one of the easiest features to implement and would immediately create structured data instead of unorganized private messages. Structured data also opens the door for analytics, fraud detection, and AI-assisted moderation later on.

I also agree that a reputation system is much more scalable than maintaining "timewaster" lists. Blacklists become less effective because creating a new email account is trivial, whereas building a positive reputation requires time and successful interactions.

Verification badges for new profiles are another low-cost, high-value improvement. Even a simple "Pending Verification" or "Verified" status provides additional trust signals for users.

AI-assisted moderation is probably one of the biggest opportunities today. Rather than replacing human moderators, AI can summarize conversations, extract relevant evidence, identify policy violations, and significantly reduce the amount of manual review required.

Fraud detection is another area worth investing in. Modern systems don't rely on a single factor—they combine dozens of signals such as account age, IP reputation, VPN usage, device fingerprinting, behavioral patterns, payment history, and previous reports to generate a risk score. Many payment processors and online marketplaces already use this approach successfully.

The only suggestion I think would require significant development effort is the cryptocurrency escrow system. While technically feasible using smart contracts or multisignature wallets, it introduces considerable complexity in terms of user experience, wallet management, dispute handling, legal compliance, and ongoing maintenance. Unless the platform processes a very large volume of transactions, the development cost may outweigh the benefits.

One thing I would add is rate limiting for new accounts, phone verification (optional), disposable email detection, and device fingerprinting. These are well-established techniques that can dramatically reduce bot activity and fake accounts before they become a moderation problem.

Overall, I think the best long-term solution is a layered trust system rather than relying on a single measure like paid memberships. Combining reputation, verification, structured bookings, automated risk analysis, and AI-assisted moderation would likely be much more effective and scalable.

[FBBMW]

You don't want a guy to be labeled a timewaster because a SG is picky/strict with questions.
Nor get labeled a good client based on one completed session.     
A client session score might work.  IE -1 wasting time, -2 canceling, -3 no show.  Successful session +2. 
 
Every option has drawbacks. A guy being a good session customer for 20 years should not look bad from
one bad review.   
 
Guys are reviewing the girls and other guys read them to decide what to do.  Girls could rate the guys. 
Like all review systems, only a small % will write them.     
 
In the long run, things might have to stay the same.

[session_safe]

As a software developer, I think there are several solid ideas here, especially those that focus on preventing abuse rather than reacting to it after the fact.

Zenzen, I am a software developer as well. And AI completely changed the way I write software. (No, I do not "vibe code" it, I use the Superpowers skill, which I recommend). It would be fairly trivial to program some of these things. Maybe we can contact Jen and offer a programming solution? I think it would be in the best interests of the community.

[Bernie1212]

Duke. Seems like you have everything figured out, you should build and open your own listing site.

[Zenzen]

As a software developer, I think there are several solid ideas here, especially those that focus on preventing abuse rather than reacting to it after the fact.

Zenzen, I am a software developer as well. And AI completely changed the way I write software. (No, I do not "vibe code" it, I use the Superpowers skill, which I recommend). It would be fairly trivial to program some of these things. Maybe we can contact Jen and offer a programming solution? I think it would be in the best interests of the community.

Steve, at this point you're not even arguing with SG anymore, you're in a full-blown one-man relationship with the website.

You've written endless posts about how much money you supposedly spent, how Jennifer allegedly scammed you out of $250,000, how terrible the site is, how incompetent everyone supposedly is... and then, after all that theatrical outrage, you pop up under yet another account saying:

"Maybe we can contact Jen and offer a programming solution?"

ARE YOU SERIOUS?

Pick a personality and stick with it.

You've spent so much time talking about Jennifer and SG that I'm beginning to wonder whether you're actually a disgruntled customer or the website's unofficial fan club president.

If Jennifer is supposedly such a scammer, SG is supposedly such a disaster, and you supposedly know exactly how to fix everything, then stop writing another 47-page saga about it and build your own damn website.

Buy a domain. Hire a developer. Create your revolutionary SG replacement. Charge whatever you think is fair. Prove everyone wrong.

But apparently that's too difficult.

It's much easier to create another account, write another rant, resurrect another conspiracy, explain once again how much money you lost, and then finish with:

"Maybe we should contact Jen and help her."


Steve, you're not beating the allegations of obsession here. You've managed to turn one website into your personal cinematic universe.

At this point, SG could shut down tomorrow and you'd probably still be sitting there three years later writing:

"I think Jennifer should really consider my programming proposal."

Brother, LET IT GO.

You don't need another account. You don't need another 10,000-word post. You don't need another theory.

You need to close the browser, step away from the keyboard, and discover that there is, in fact, an entire internet that exists outside SG.

Because right now, the funniest thing about this whole saga isn't Jennifer, isn't SG, and isn't the alleged $250,000.

It's watching you spend this much energy on something you supposedly hate.

[session_safe]

Buy a domain. Hire a developer. Create your revolutionary SG replacement. Charge whatever you think is fair. Prove everyone wrong.

But apparently that's too difficult.

Zenzen,

And I do have a website and wb270 clone. Just google the username of this message and google will take you there. It's an AI summarized reivew of all the girls on SessionGirls. This forum and another similarly-themed forum messages are the dataset. And it's actually starting to get traction! The wb270 end of it is a "meta site" of girls on sessiongirls, badkity, and "off the radar" girls and it's all searchable. I was side-tracked because of family issues (I'm the primary caretaker of my mother now), but am working on it more this month. The site will and always will be FREE, unlike SessionGirls.

And regarding Jennifer, I just served Jennifer with a formal lawsuit not too long ago: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login . I was physically there when she was served the papers. now she has to answer to the judge! Our first court date is November 20th, which is 1 day before her SessionGirls event in Florida. So good luck with that. . . .

Oh, and if she fails to attend court, there will legal repurcussions from the JUDGE! So now, she HAS to answer to me! I'm bringing my contracts, my emails, and allll the receipts to the court as proof of my claim. Jennifer now has to hire a lawyer to deal with it all - and civil cases typically take YEARS with hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees. My lawyer retainer alone was $20,000.

The moderators of saradas don't want me writing about Jennifer any longer, so I am going to stop here.