More and more non-fitness/FBB girls on the scene

[The D]

The more the merrier (within reason), I say.  Its very easy to filter out a 5'5 105 lb woman if you want comp wrestling, or what have you.

[The D]

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[Polite Society]

The more the merrier (within reason), I say.  Its very easy to filter out a 5'5 105 lb woman if you want comp wrestling, or what have you.

Yes, the main obstacle is the utter laziness of those who want it beyond simple.

[nujerz84]

Rate increases across the board is another issue concerning the session scene..with no guarantee the session will be great..paying $900 or $1000 and its just an average session..(not bad just ok) when you had sessions at $300-$400 with other ladies and it was an amazing session..it ends up feeling like a waste of time and money.

Never-mind rate increases happening in a midst of recession and a pandemic causing economic hardships.. I get ladies wanting to maximize there value and weeding out certain prospects..but for those higher prices..you have to be one of if not the best woman on the scene..and if your not man gtfoh.

[boyofwinter]

Rate increases across the board is another issue concerning the session scene..with no guarantee the session will be great..paying $900 or $1000 and its just an average session..(not bad just ok) when you had sessions at $300-$400 with other ladies and it was an amazing session..it ends up feeling like a waste of time and money.

Never-mind rate increases happening in a midst of recession and a pandemic causing economic hardships.. I get ladies wanting to maximize there value and weeding out certain prospects..but for those higher prices..you have to be one of if not the best woman on the scene..and if your not man gtfoh.

Actually, there's an interesting dynamic that comes into play as far as rates like this go. He's right when he points out her rate is another way she screens clients, many of us have said this around here. But sometimes I think there's a bit more to it on her end. She not only wants guys who can afford to pay that high rate, but she wants ones who can afford to pay it and not care much about the product. It was a while ago but I remember posting in some lady's (not sure) thread that I'd pay the gdp of a small country for some time with her, I was only half joking. I think we all have a few ladies for whom we'd say anything was a great session short of her spending the time by getting into bed, not allowing us to join her and then playing with her phone. How many guys does she need to meet per month for doing so to be worthwhile for her? not many.

[Polite Society]

 I can safely say with UTRs, the higher the payment, the better the session. Many even said in advance "I'll make it worth it".  In contrast, the regulars are often so jaded or disengaged that the money isn't considered.  You look at a new scene arrival like Tiffany Brooks and read her thoughts on this and it should be obvious zero fsks are given. She sees it as the privilege of breathing the same air for an hour.  Have to laugh she's already been plagued with "can you come to Des Moines,etc?"  The ones who write those and her deserve each other.

[Hoodman]

I can safely say with UTRs, the higher the payment, the better the session. Many even said in advance "I'll make it worth it".  In contrast, the regulars are often so jaded or disengaged that the money isn't considered.  You look at a new scene arrival like Tiffany Brooks and read her thoughts on this and it should be obvious zero fsks are given. She sees it as the privilege of breathing the same air for an hour.  Have to laugh she's already been plagued with "can you come to Des Moines,etc?"  The ones who write those and her deserve each other.

I wish the me now was for UTR list back in the Atlanta days. I would've gone for different people. That's not on you that's on my interests changing over time.  Ah missed opportunities.

[Hoodman]

Rate increases across the board is another issue concerning the session scene..with no guarantee the session will be great..paying $900 or $1000 and its just an average session..(not bad just ok) when you had sessions at $300-$400 with other ladies and it was an amazing session..it ends up feeling like a waste of time and money.

Never-mind rate increases happening in a midst of recession and a pandemic causing economic hardships.. I get ladies wanting to maximize there value and weeding out certain prospects..but for those higher prices..you have to be one of if not the best woman on the scene..and if your not man gtfoh.

Honestly,
This is why I rarely session. It's rare to find a FBB that hits that experience I want. Especially hard for newer ones. Plus I have a backup of women who I vibe with if I need general care. So many have retired

[Hoodman]

The BDSM scene crossing over into Female Muscle fetish has always been there..far back as I can remember.  back to certain video companies like Builtmore, Massive Muscle and several others.  LH Art with its art stories set the standard of female muscle being dominant and making slaves/subs out of guys in a dominantrix like fashion (this early mid 90's to today).

Every so call BDSM activity was all introduced to me by women with Muscle (IFBB Pro Bodybuilders/ Women's Physique and so forth).

There are other factors hurting the scene than that..imo wealthy guys sponsoring/sugar daddy many ladies with muscle is one of them.

Real talk on the sugar daddy aspect. Spending cash we just don't have. Why would you not want that.

And yes agreed the muscle world is how I got into BDSM myself and while I've taken off with BDSM I see a bunch of providers who do both