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Title: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: Swizzlenuts on April 10, 2017, 01:41:35 am
For example, Renee Toney and Collete Guimond almost look too masculine for me. There are some massive females that turn me on, but these two just do not fit the mold.
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: nujerz84 on April 10, 2017, 04:05:34 am
For example, Renee Toney and Collete Guimond almost look too masculine for me. There are some massive females that turn me on, but these two just do not fit the mold.

Absolutely those two are examples of everything that is wrong with fbb and why the fbb division is in the dying state that its in. 
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: FemFlexUSA on April 10, 2017, 05:33:51 pm
For example, Renee Toney and Collete Guimond almost look too masculine for me. There are some massive females that turn me on, but these two just do not fit the mold.

Absolutely those two are examples of everything that is wrong with fbb and why the fbb division is in the dying state that its in.


What a ridiculously stupid statement.  When is the last time that you saw either of those women on a competitive stage? 
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: oriander2000 on April 10, 2017, 06:08:06 pm
For me, yes, there are. But I prefer not to give names because I don't want to stir a pointless discussion..or a tense debate, at most. The competitors - and their fans - deserve respect, and I'm not a Judge to criticize them neither as practitioners nor as preferred type by others.

But I can say that this kind of bodies simbolyze the current mindset in all the divisions, making the physiques a group of "maximums" instead of a balanced body development: maximum muscle mass + maximum conditioning + maximum tanning...+ silicone implants.

Many times I can't see a whole body, or an athlete...just a bunch of "maximums".
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: junglepet77 on April 10, 2017, 07:07:18 pm
I agree that some fbbs are "too much" for me and, no, I have learned on this site NOT to mention names. (LOL!) I love a lot of fbbs because their muscles accentuate their curves. I don't mind "bolt-ons" as some of you guys call them. When done correctly they match the figures of the ladies.

What I don't like are pictures of the ladies at a contest who haven't hydrated properly and look way, way too drawn. I can't stand fbbs with plenty of veins, that's too masculine. And some ladies facially are, well, homely no matter how great a job they have done in building their bodies.

Strangely enough I don't mind body hair on an fbb, it may be an ethnic thing seeing Eastern European or Latina women in the subway with underarm hair or hairy legs when I as in my teens. Since I was that young it was a turn on then... heck, in your teens EVERYTHING is a turn on. (LOL!)

But facial hair on an fbb or any woman? No. There is one famous fbb with great sexy body, a square jaw (a turnoff) and pics with hints of facial hair. No, I'll pass on that.
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: Swizzlenuts on April 10, 2017, 07:54:35 pm
For example, Renee Toney and Collete Guimond almost look too masculine for me. There are some massive females that turn me on, but these two just do not fit the mold.

Absolutely those two are examples of everything that is wrong with fbb and why the fbb division is in the dying state that its in.


What a ridiculously stupid statement.  When is the last time that you saw either of those women on a competitive stage?
Sorry, shouldn't have mentioned names, but I think it's a perfectly relevant statement. I admire their hard work, but they've taken it way too far.
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: the_arbitrage on April 11, 2017, 06:51:19 am
Well again this is all about completely differing perceptions. When you dig something, particularly on a reproductive level, then you simply won't see it the way the rest of the world does. No matter what happens you may always feel that it's just 1 show or photo away from catching fire and blowing up into the next big thing. To the extreme fbb admirer faction the sides are one of THE key factors of the attraction, so therefore perceived as huge positive, with anything negative (which the world outside perceives) becomes invisible. But from the outside looking in, there are even plenty of physique women where it's still totally obvious let alone x-fbbs.
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: makko1 on April 11, 2017, 07:29:43 am
In  all cases where the fbb loses her hair or she gain a man-face. I think that every fbb have to stop when she loses her female identity.
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: the_arbitrage on April 11, 2017, 07:57:24 am
In  all cases where the fbb loses her hair or she gain a man-face. I think that every fbb have to stop when she loses her female identity.

Definitely true (within the mainstream market)...although, the problem is this is that it then sounds like there's no place for those wishing to push the boundaries. There's still this pad-locked idea here that it either has to be one way or the other, when that's far from the case. Without going into the entire formula, at the foundation is this...there are now many different categories in bodybuilding, with differing judging criteria that continues to expand..and that is a *very* good thing for ALL levels. The main problem is just that the categories and criteria still aren't refined enough, or being marketed to their right target audiences...but, there's plenty of room for all levels to be promoted successfully.   
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: FemFlexUSA on April 11, 2017, 09:21:10 am
I think that every fbb have to stop when she loses her female identity.

False.

You stop when you want to stop, other people will stop when they want to stop.
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: stratos on April 11, 2017, 09:27:40 am
I think that every fbb have to stop when she loses her female identity.

False.

You stop when you want to stop, other people will stop when they want to stop.

Karma
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: makko1 on April 11, 2017, 09:47:14 am
Well, every choice must be respected.

but

I think that female bodybuilders have to distinguish to male bodybuilders. That's it. Also judges and rules should define a sort of "limit" beyond which some results are not admittable in sport. But in her private life every woman is free to be what she wants, of course. And every man could love and appreciate strong and powerful woman in every case.
Femininity in female bodybuilding has to be defended. I know that many athletes are more fortunate and maintain easier they femininity also at the top of their prep routine, but I think that every athlete must to have this maintainment as a goal.
I know that in many cases there are fbb who are powerful and incredible like men's power, and this is fine if they can reach that result, but the complete result is the maintainment of femininity.
Only my personal opionion, guys. 
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: bertmacklinsbrother on April 11, 2017, 11:21:00 am

I'm also in this camp.  I mean, sure, when I was a younger FBB fan, some of them were definitely too much for me.  But I've grown out of that line of thinking and now just appreciate the FBBs that go as extreme as they can, all for the purpose of growing bigger.  To me, the dedication to their one passion is extremely hot and the fact that there are no barriers that could prevent them from reaching their goals, even when 99.9% of the people in everyday society see them as freaks.  In the end, I just love muscles, and anyone who commits their life to muscles has my support.
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: papadoc1981 on April 12, 2017, 12:31:24 am
I personally have no limits on how far a woman chooses to takes her physique.  I'm just here to enjoy the show.

My limits are other factors.

Tattoos
Size of Implants and how they compliment the physique.
Dykes
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: PEABUTR on April 14, 2017, 03:56:23 am
There's quite a big bunch of Renee's and Colette's out  there leave them alone they do what they like doing building their bodies to the extreme, are you jealous they spend hours in the gym, try it yourself, it's their reward.
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: Swizzlenuts on April 14, 2017, 06:34:34 pm
There's quite a big bunch of Renee's and Colette's out  there leave them alone they do what they like doing building their bodies to the extreme, are you jealous they spend hours in the gym, try it yourself, it's their reward.
Certainly not true. They didn't get that way by "spending hours in the gym", they got that way with multiple enhancement drugs. Not knocking their hard work, but you can't keep saying what they've achieved is simply the result of hard work in the gym.
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: M7 on April 14, 2017, 08:46:36 pm
There's quite a big bunch of Renee's and Colette's out  there leave them alone they do what they like doing building their bodies to the extreme, are you jealous they spend hours in the gym, try it yourself, it's their reward.
Certainly not true. They didn't get that way by "spending hours in the gym", they got that way with multiple enhancement drugs. Not knocking their hard work, but you can't keep saying what they've achieved is simply the result of hard work in the gym.


"Certainly not true. They didn't get that way by "spending hours in the gym", they got that way with multiple enhancement drugs."  :laugh: OF COURSE they spend countless hours in the gym, that's a given. You obviously have no idea what it takes to be a competitive bodybuilder. Yes, they take gear. We're not denying that, but that's one of many factors and to make a statement like that is just ignorant. You should educate yourself about the sport before you start criticizing certain competitors. If you want to look at natural female bodybuilders, try the NBBF (Natural Bodybuilding Federation), if it's even still around. Quite a few different organizations using that abbreviation now.
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: pbo4muscle on April 15, 2017, 11:51:07 am
Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
That was the question :)

My answer is Yes. What do I mean by to much? When FBB develop facial and physical male characteristics. Why is that to much for me? Because I like women, not what in essence, when stripped of all sorts of feminizing attributes, are quite a simply an ugly man with a small penis!

But I totally love muscles on WOMEN. Really REALLY like it. Always have, always will!
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: papadoc1981 on April 16, 2017, 12:49:28 am

Being Homosexual shouldn't be the issue. It's who a person is, but with tattoos and getting implants can be over doing it. I never been a fan of silicone breast under beautiful pecs. And tats cover the best parts of the body. Your body is art.  :(
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My issue isn't about a woman's sexual orientation.  When I say dykes I'm talking about the women who dress like men, act like men, talk like men, and get the haircuts like men.  The one's where you think are dudes unless you are literally standing a few feet away from them.
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: M7 on April 16, 2017, 04:13:54 am
Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
That was the question :)

My answer is Yes. What do I mean by to much? When FBB develop facial and physical male characteristics. Why is that to much for me? Because I like women, not what in essence, when stripped of all sorts of feminizing attributes, are quite a simply an ugly man with a small penis!

But I totally love muscles on WOMEN. Really REALLY like it. Always have, always will!


We are all attracted to what we're attracted to. I have no problem with that. I chimed in after this statement was made, "Certainly not true. They didn't get that way by "spending hours in the gym", they got that way with multiple enhancement drugs. Not knocking their hard work..." That was a complete contradiction. "Knocking" their hard work is exactly what he did. I was just calling him on it.
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: junglepet77 on April 17, 2017, 07:34:13 pm
Well... this is heresy and I will get hammered for it but there are two ladies that I've had about enough of, Nataliya Trukina (excuse the spelling) and Aleesha Young.

Nataliya is just too massive. If you see her before training pics it is almost frightening. You have to wonder about her health. As for Aleesha, she is sexier than Nataliya, and I do like the "bolt-ons" but the whole look - going blonde, etc., is a bit much for me.
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: bobsaget on April 17, 2017, 10:25:33 pm
the only ones that are too much for me are the ones who have a face like a mans, and there are very few of those - facial hair and an androgenous look. turns me off, but as for size, the bigger the better
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: nujerz84 on April 18, 2017, 07:35:49 pm


 there only 5 ladies  I consider attractive, the rest in the too much category. My interest and attraction in FBB have seriously decreased over the years.
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: autechre on April 18, 2017, 08:22:50 pm
Tbh there only 5 ladies he named I consider attractive, the rest in the too much category. My interest and attraction in FBB have seriously decreased over the years.

I'm pretty much with you on this. There aren't many proper fbbs that I like that much. I do like the WPD & figure ladies a lot more ;)

My fav fbb from the past: Sue Myers


Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: fitgirlfanguy on April 18, 2017, 10:03:15 pm
Interesting topic, interesting and varied points of view from all over the FBB map. 


I don't equate femininity (or masculinity) with muscular size.  There are some bigger ladies with much more appealing physiques, nicer muscle shapes, and nicer looking face, hair than other smaller ladies with more "blocky" physiques, perhaps not facially pretty, or not a great hairdo.  I'll also throw out there that facially, even men's faces look mangled after years of bodybuilding or weightlifting, my guess being a combination of up and down extreme dieting as well as grimacing through so many intense workouts.  Like your mother used to say "Stop making that face, it will stick like that".  Can't deny that steroids are likely to play a part in this too if you look at veteran FBB pros and compare their faces earlier in their careers vs later.  Perhaps all these little things can add up to a particular FBB not looking as appealing as another, independent of their degree of muscular size/development.  Perhaps it's some of these other factors that when compounded, give the impression of "too much". 


I also agree with those opinions about some of today's physiques being a collection of maximums yet lacking overall balance and symmetry, as compared to physiques of say the early 1990s.  Even Paula Bircumshaw, who was considered to be pushing the envelope in a lot of ways, still had a well-balanced physique.  Natalya T-whatever, I can't say the same for. 


So, are some ladies "too much"?  It all depends on what you're looking for.



Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: autechre on April 18, 2017, 11:38:52 pm
I don't equate femininity (or masculinity) with muscular size.  There are some bigger ladies with much more appealing physiques, nicer muscle shapes, and nicer looking face, hair than other smaller ladies with more "blocky" physiques, perhaps not facially pretty, or not a great hairdo. 

I'd agree with this. A prime example for me would be Alina Popa.
When she had the short blonde hair and looked fairly masculine, she did not appeal to me at all.
A few years later, with longer dark hair, she looked much more feminine and I like her a lot now :)
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: nujerz84 on April 19, 2017, 12:18:46 pm


But the women physique division nowadays is like early 90s FBB, but leaner...

Its just women bodybuilding minus 10 pounds
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Women's Physique was originally going to be called Classic Female Bodybuilding.

The ladies are younger more attractive and with less noticable sides. Some FBB who gone way to the extreme have gotten to point of looking like male bodybuilders in a wig and bikini.   Unfortunately that is perception many people have when they think of what FBB is..which one reason why the division is state its in.

There is virtually no young females coming up wanting to compete in FBB..  Its all figure or physique.
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: illestmuscle on July 28, 2017, 11:17:56 am
Personally I don't have a limit when it comes to muscularity or size. Natalya Trukhina, to me, is a perfect example of the size I like with a face I like as well. If the fbb is ugly or has a "man face" at least I'll appreciate their hard work.
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: blulew77 on October 12, 2017, 10:50:06 pm
I can't say anybody is "too much".  I think some physiques are more pleasing, but size of body parts is generally not a deterrent to me. Not a fan of implants that sit on top of the muscle. I prefer super thick pecs.  Some women we don't like and it's not even because they pushed themselves too far, it's just that they aren't attractive to the individual. Some are limited by their genetics. Some are unbalanced because of that as well. I personally love really big, really thick women. Off-season is my sweet spot. I like em' big and fluffy. A bit of pec cleavage goes a long way with me. You guys ever look at some women before they started lifting? Some were just not cute before they started gear. So call bullshit on too much gear making them ugly. Some just weren't blessed with a pretty, symmetrical face. Some women get lean in the face pretty easily too. Whereas some hold onto chunky cheeks. There isn't much they can do about that.

So this is to say, no, there is no woman that picks up a weight that is "too much" for me. Oh, and fuck labelling shit as masculine or feminine.
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: beowulff on October 13, 2017, 06:01:38 pm
No FBB can ever be too much for me.
I had sessions with both Renne and Colette, and they were amazing. Wish they were even more muscular!
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: Duke69 on October 13, 2017, 07:05:45 pm
Last time I saw Jennifer Kennedy I thought she had crossed the line visually and was too much for my eyes.  for some of you that makes her all the more desirable, have fun with her.
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: beowulff on October 16, 2017, 09:27:37 pm
I just don't like that they have no implants. The second they would get implants I would be all over them.

Blech.
I want MUSCLE, not silicone!
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: OldSchmoe67 on October 20, 2017, 01:40:10 pm
There are plenty of ordinary, non-athletic women who qualify as "too much" or unattractive to me, and that proportion is far greater than fbbs and athletic women. I like all kinds of women, though. Some can catch my attention with the slightest, barely noticeable things, some can do it from across the highway. It's very subjective. For instance: Sheila Bleck is among the greatest pros out there right now, but she does not attract me for some reason. Other fbbs have considerable flaws and worse genetics by bodybuilding standards, but attract me completely.   
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: iacarpool on October 21, 2017, 09:59:21 pm
Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder, I take the whole package into account.  And even then some women that I don't normally like that much can look great some times.
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: Antuan21 on November 11, 2017, 03:02:46 am
Sometimes I feel people are ashamed to find some of the more muscular women attractive. Like somehow a woman that's too muscular is something they shouldn't find attractive. Personally I think all muscular women are beautiful. The bigger the better.
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: sa2009 on November 13, 2017, 05:24:21 am
 I think it mostly depends on the woman at least for me . If the woman is beautiful ,  i still found Tina Lockwood attractive and others like Tazzie , Andrulla Blanchette etc .
I think if they have a beautiful look the size matches perfect .
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: sycamore on January 05, 2018, 04:24:45 am
Absolutely. Fbbs and Physique girls are much, MUCH bigger in person. A woman who looks fairly small in a video,
say like an Emery Miller or Nicole Ball, is pretty gigantic in person. So you can imagine how big the "big girls" actually are.
I've seen Tina Lockwood, Karla Nelsen and Nicole Bass, and they were WAY too much for me. Almost like mbbs in drag.
I think I pretty much top out at say an Aleesha Young or Monique Jones, both of who are HUGE but still distinctly feminine. 
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: MadameXena on January 06, 2018, 10:36:44 pm
Reading through the comments and looking up some of the women who were actually named (that I did not know well enough to form a mental picture of) has been an interesting exercise. Thank you for throwing some names around. These women are incredible!!

What I wouldn't give for the film making industry to actually use some real muscled up women in main stream movies. Stop giving me skinny chicks who apparently have superhuman strength and start actually using women who look like they do have superhuman strength!!! I think it would go a long way towards celebrating diversity in what is it to be human.

The question of whether some female body builders are too much for you is a personal question and the answers anyone gives are based on their own view of the world. Just like whether someone has short hair, long hair or no hair is a personal preference. You can like it, or not. But it does not make someone masculine or feminine. Nor does it make the person in question attractive / unattractive to someone else. No matter how big, no matter how strong her features, there will be plenty of people who absolutely love her for it.

We all have our preferences. There is no right or wrong in this. Myself, I look at the size of some of these women in envy. Wow.

Should judging take this into account? No. No judging of a sport should not make it their moralistic prerogative to block women from competing (and winning) simply because they are not "attractive" enough. Femininity should not be a criteria in any women's sport as it is fundamentally connected with a stereotype of what a woman is. Femininity is the thing that drag queens exaggerate to great effect - it does not win contests of physical ability.

No one ever told Usain Bolt he should tone down his speed and yet in our own sport, women at the top level were told to come in less muscular. Before they were told to not come in at all. How is it a competition of body building when you are told you cannot build the body?

And what do we lose from this? We lose the diversity of competitor that the sport should attract. We lose the opportunity for women's sport to be seen as more than just the pre-game entertainment for the main, male, event. I watch the Olympics because the athletes are elite and WAY out of my league. I watch the bikini division of a body building show and wonder what the heck is being judged. The posing for a start makes it hard to take it seriously at all.

Given even bodybuilding does not embrace it's own, at the end of the day, any woman that chooses to work so hard and go through everything on a personal level she has to go through to achieve any serious level of muscularity, is not doing it for anyone else but herself. Good on her for being so true to her own expression of self.
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: bertmacklinsbrother on January 07, 2018, 03:53:06 pm

Well said.  I agree with everything you mentioned.  Opinions on attraction aside, it is a bit ridiculous that female contests are judged on beauty, while male contests are judged on the things that actually matter for the sport: size, definition, symmetry, etc.  It's a bit of a ludicrous double standard.
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: bertmacklinsbrother on January 12, 2018, 03:09:53 am

I don't mean to be argumentative, but men's faces change a lot during the stages of bodybuilding.  And they aren't judged for it.

All I'm saying is there is a double standard there.  It's like if a women's Basketball team was given extra points at the end for their breast size.  Why aren't we judging them purely on the sport itself?

If women are being judged on their facial beauty, then the men should be as well.
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: Patrick_Henry on January 12, 2018, 10:02:24 am
Wish they were even more muscular!

Wulff, I'm with u on the no-limits musculature.. I love the biggest, buffest Female physiques..

In a sweater, breast implants can look nice.. but I'm with an earlier poster on generally not liking bodybuilder' implants. Large, baggy implants (in a tank-top or bikini) look incompatible with the hard musculature. Just my opinion..
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: Jaybee on January 14, 2018, 08:17:49 pm
Names - Renee Toney and Collete Guimond were already listed.  I'll add Iris Kyle, and, in her VERY final appearance, Tina Lockwood, who up to then was a magnificent specimen of womanhood.  Bodybuilding should enhance, not detract from, your gender.  Above the neck as below it.  Nataliya Trukhina I am VERY torn with...she still has that feminine face but I wonder how long that will last, and my second gripe with her, I'll describe immediately below....

Bodyfat/Vascularity - Trukhina is, in most of her vids, too cut.  That's easily fixed of course.  But to me, femininity is lost below 10% bf, as veins pop out every damn place, I could do without that (I don't like it ;

Tits - the spectrum here is between believability and incredulity at the subconscious level.  I want tits that my inner caveman can buy as real, even if they're absolutely huge, and seem to hover 3" higher than they should.  Shape here is vital.  Drum-tight skin is great, actually it's the best, WHILE the plastic isn't so close to the surface it's almost see-through.  That is a deal-breaker for me;

Drugs - as a Natty BB'er myself I don't ask she refrain from more than I myself do.  That said, they're ok UNTIL they jawlines and browlines start changing.  Also, if we're planning on kids, that's the end of the juice. 
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: Saxit2me on January 19, 2018, 01:27:32 pm
For me its not a question of too much as it is concern if there is any damage being done by using substances.  I am always sad to read about someone who leaves this world way too early.
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: diggs on January 22, 2018, 04:30:52 am
...Trukhina is, in most of her vids, too cut...

 :what:

No such thing, man.  ;)

Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: mus2kgen on January 22, 2018, 04:48:23 pm
I don't think size and proportions are here nor there when it comes to looking masculine especially when most of the damage is most visual in the face and neck.
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: Patrick_Henry on January 31, 2018, 05:00:07 am
So what are examples of FBBS with masculine faces? What is the cut-off point?

Because FBB's with feminine faces are super-rare.

I think the cut-off is just one of those subjective things.. You know it, when you see it..

That said, like everybody.. I appreciate a pretty face. But I like it when an Alpha Woman also starts to grow a squared-off jaw. I know it's a traditionally male trait. But I love a strong jawline (like Michele Neil, Elena Seiple).
There was study a few years back (confirming the obvious), that strong, square jaws signal strength & testosterone. I like those qualities in a Female  :dance:
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: junglepet77 on January 31, 2018, 12:57:48 pm
This woman is WAY too much for me.

http://saradas.org/index.php?topic=45025.0

Early on I was intrigued by her development. But you have to wonder if all the chemicals (and plastic surgery?) needed to bulk up like this will damage her long term health.
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: Jaybee on January 31, 2018, 06:19:57 pm
So what are examples of FBBS with masculine faces? What is the cut-off point?

Because FBB's with feminine faces are super-rare.

I think the cut-off is just one of those subjective things.. You know it, when you see it..

That said, like everybody.. I appreciate a pretty face. But I like it when an Alpha Woman also starts to grow a squared-off jaw. I know it's a traditionally male trait. But I love a strong jawline (like Michele Neil, Elena Seiple).
There was study a few years back (confirming the obvious), that strong, square jaws signal strength & testosterone. I like those qualities in a Female  :dance:

But do you like men too then? I mean, if given enough testosterone, women become almost indistinguishable from men. At least in face and voice.

In another thread some of the members also said they really appreciate male bodybuilders too. Which was interesting and new to me.

Really?  Why would that be new to you? 
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: sycamore on January 31, 2018, 06:23:57 pm
So what are examples of FBBS with masculine faces? What is the cut-off point?

Because FBB's with feminine faces are super-rare.

I think the cut-off is just one of those subjective things.. You know it, when you see it..

That said, like everybody.. I appreciate a pretty face. But I like it when an Alpha Woman also starts to grow a squared-off jaw. I know it's a traditionally male trait. But I love a strong jawline (like Michele Neil, Elena Seiple).
There was study a few years back (confirming the obvious), that strong, square jaws signal strength & testosterone. I like those qualities in a Female  :dance:

I actually kind of like that too Patrick_Henry. On a REALLY good looking women -- like Rhonda Lundstedt of the early 1990s -- a square jaw can look amazing!
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: Patrick_Henry on February 01, 2018, 04:54:42 am
So what are examples of FBBS with masculine faces? What is the cut-off point?

Because FBB's with feminine faces are super-rare.

I think the cut-off is just one of those subjective things.. You know it, when you see it..

That said, like everybody.. I appreciate a pretty face. But I like it when an Alpha Woman also starts to grow a squared-off jaw. I know it's a traditionally male trait. But I love a strong jawline (like Michele Neil, Elena Seiple).
There was study a few years back (confirming the obvious), that strong, square jaws signal strength & testosterone. I like those qualities in a Female  :dance:


But do you like men too then? I mean, if given enough testosterone, women become almost indistinguishable from men.


(chuckle..) No, I'm not physically attracted to other men. But I do like Women who have some/specific masculine characteristics.. And I dig gender-role-reversal.. but for me, it's been in the confines of heterosexual love & relationships..

I've always had a thing for tomboys & Macho Women.. it is what it is.
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: bertmacklinsbrother on February 02, 2018, 01:46:38 pm
So what are examples of FBBS with masculine faces? What is the cut-off point?

Because FBB's with feminine faces are super-rare.

I think the cut-off is just one of those subjective things.. You know it, when you see it..

That said, like everybody.. I appreciate a pretty face. But I like it when an Alpha Woman also starts to grow a squared-off jaw. I know it's a traditionally male trait. But I love a strong jawline (like Michele Neil, Elena Seiple).
There was study a few years back (confirming the obvious), that strong, square jaws signal strength & testosterone. I like those qualities in a Female  :dance:


But do you like men too then? I mean, if given enough testosterone, women become almost indistinguishable from men.


(chuckle..) No, I'm not physically attracted to other men. But I do like Women who have some/specific masculine characteristics.. And I dig gender-role-reversal.. but for me, it's been in the confines of heterosexual love & relationships..

I've always had a thing for tomboys & Macho Women.. it is what it is.

I'm with you on this one, Patrick_Henry.  It's possible to enjoy typically masculine traits and role reversal aspects in a completely hetero relationship.

Ynegronrivera:  Even non-bodybuilding women have testosterone in their systems, just as men have estrogen in their systems.  Different people have different balances and therefore faces, bone structure, etc. are different between people.  Due to that, there are some women that can have more masculine qualities and men with more feminine qualities, just because of the way their bodies are.  For instance, all women grow body hair.  Different women grow body hair at different rates.  Some women are born with broader shoulders, some have more square jaws.  Just as some men can be born without the ability to grow a beard, or just can end up with a naturally smaller/shorter body.

That doesn't mean people can't find those traits attractive.  If a woman was interested in a short, skinny man who couldn't grow facial hair, would be people ask her "Does that mean you're into girls?"  No, of course not. 

Physical attributes vary between women and one can be hetero while appreciating different, even non-typical traits in their appearance.

Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: diggs on February 06, 2018, 09:41:44 pm
So what are examples of FBBS with masculine faces? What is the cut-off point?

Because FBB's with feminine faces are super-rare.

I think the cut-off is just one of those subjective things.. You know it, when you see it..

That said, like everybody.. I appreciate a pretty face. But I like it when an Alpha Woman also starts to grow a squared-off jaw. I know it's a traditionally male trait. But I love a strong jawline (like Michele Neil, Elena Seiple).
There was study a few years back (confirming the obvious), that strong, square jaws signal strength & testosterone. I like those qualities in a Female  :dance:


But do you like men too then? I mean, if given enough testosterone, women become almost indistinguishable from men.


(chuckle..) No, I'm not physically attracted to other men. But I do like Women who have some/specific masculine characteristics.. And I dig gender-role-reversal.. but for me, it's been in the confines of heterosexual love & relationships..

I've always had a thing for tomboys & Macho Women.. it is what it is.

I'm with you on this one, Patrick_Henry.  It's possible to enjoy typically masculine traits and role reversal aspects in a completely hetero relationship.

Ynegronrivera:  Even non-bodybuilding women have testosterone in their systems, just as men have estrogen in their systems.  Different people have different balances and therefore faces, bone structure, etc. are different between people.  Due to that, there are some women that can have more masculine qualities and men with more feminine qualities, just because of the way their bodies are.  For instance, all women grow body hair.  Different women grow body hair at different rates.  Some women are born with broader shoulders, some have more square jaws.  Just as some men can be born without the ability to grow a beard, or just can end up with a naturally smaller/shorter body.

That doesn't mean people can't find those traits attractive.  If a woman was interested in a short, skinny man who couldn't grow facial hair, would be people ask her "Does that mean you're into girls?"  No, of course not. 

Physical attributes vary between women and one can be hetero while appreciating different, even non-typical traits in their appearance.

There have also been studies that show that individuals of both genders can be attracted to facial features that they possess themselves, especially facial features. So it is completely natural for men to find masculine features attractive and for women to find feminine features attractive.
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: sa2009 on February 07, 2018, 01:49:01 am
This woman is WAY too much for me.

http://saradas.org/index.php?topic=45025.0

Early on I was intrigued by her development. But you have to wonder if all the chemicals (and plastic surgery?) needed to bulk up like this will damage her long term health.


 I tend to agree ..   she has insane muscles , but their is no balance of beauty to go with it imho .  Where as a Tina Lockwood combined both ..  and is why she is so adored by fans for so long .
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: ozzyfm on February 07, 2018, 10:48:31 am
Love this thread. I can see that, after all, we're not so many to totally embrace the muscle side. Maybe it's a question of time. I mean, when i was younger, about 25 years ago, i basically only loved beautiful and lightly muscular women, like Sharon Bruneau. And now, well, I think you know my tastes...
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: bruce321 on February 07, 2018, 10:36:25 pm
While I don't deny the changes that can occur in the process of bodybuilding, I do wonder how many of you would turn down one of these women that are "too much" for you if you were lucky enough to gain their attention? It's one thing to look at pictures and watch videos, and quite another to meet an FBB face to face. A couple of sides don't make them men. And when you talk to them and you see they have feminine mannerisms and a nice personality, it gets easy to look past their flaws. I've met FBB's that aren't my type, but I wouldn't say it's ever been as a result of the sport.
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: cook417 on February 08, 2018, 08:53:09 pm
Not many for me.  One that is just too much (and I realize she's more of a pornstar/model than an actual FBB) is Yvette Bova.  I like big muscles and boobs but she just too much of both that comes together in an unappealing package. I don't get the appeal (especially with the weird faces she makes in her pics). Same thing with Maryse Manios.

But on the other hand I love the biggest of the big like Aleesha Young and Natalya Trukhina.  I think their look just works...at least for me.
Title: Re: Are some fbbs 'too much" for you?
Post by: Jaybee on February 13, 2018, 05:38:01 pm
While I don't deny the changes that can occur in the process of bodybuilding, I do wonder how many of you would turn down one of these women that are "too much" for you if you were lucky enough to gain their attention? It's one thing to look at pictures and watch videos, and quite another to meet an FBB face to face. A couple of sides don't make them men. And when you talk to them and you see they have feminine mannerisms and a nice personality, it gets easy to look past their flaws. I've met FBB's that aren't my type, but I wouldn't say it's ever been as a result of the sport.

Turn down for what exactly?  If Iris Kyle was INTENSELY keen on a platonic friendship with me, I'd have no problem.  In fact it would be cool chatting iron with her.  That said, there are several reasons in addition to her physique I'd turn her down for anything more.