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Title: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: freudian1 on August 27, 2019, 04:23:01 am
Competitor list for Rising Phoenix 2019

Margie Marvelous
Nicki Chartrand
Helle Trevino
Monique Jones
Jessica Martin
Vera Mikulcova
Michelle Jin
Aleesha Young
Kristina  Mendoza
Theresa Ivancik
Pauline  Nelson
Janeen Lankowski
Tina Williams
Irene Anderson
Susanna Jacobs
Sylvia Matta
Robin Hillis 
Kim Buck
Mona Poursalah
Barbara Carita
Andrea Shaw 
*(Alina Popa & Sheila Bleck qualified but will not compete)*

This is a fantastic lineup! A nice mix of veterans and new faces. And although I think Margie and Helle are the obvious favorites, this could be a pretty wide-open contest. Only three of last year's top six are returning, and 15 of this year's competitors weren't on the stage last year.

Who do you think will win, and who are you excited to see?
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: freudian1 on August 27, 2019, 04:39:28 am
My top 10:

1. Helle Trevino
2. Margie Marvelous
3. Monique Jones
4. Aleesha Young
5. Nicki Chartrand
6. Kim Buck
7. Theresa Ivancik
8. Robin Hillis
9. Pauline Nelson
10. Kristina Mendoza


Most muscular:
Helle Trevino

Best poser:
Monique Jones

I would love to see Irene Anderson and/or Sylvia Matta in the top 10 as a big fan of both of them, but I feel they often get overlooked which is why I'm not predicting them in top 10.
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: necro2080 on August 27, 2019, 11:40:41 am
Alina is just skipping this year, or she has decided to retire? We'll see how Sheila does in physique now, it looks promising somehow.
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: PatchAu7 on August 27, 2019, 02:29:44 pm
1st Monique Jones
2nd Margie Marvelous
3rd Andrea Shaw
4th Vera Mikulcova
5th Robin Hillis
6th Pauline Nelson
7th Helle Trevino
8th Janeen Lankowski
9th Tina Williams
10 Aleesha Young
11 Nicki Chartrand
12 Barbara Carita
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: luis3iguel on August 27, 2019, 02:33:39 pm
This Rising Phoenix is very hard to made a prediction

1.- Margie Marvelous
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: freudian1 on August 27, 2019, 11:46:24 pm
Alina is just skipping this year, or she has decided to retire? We'll see how Sheila does in physique now, it looks promising somehow.

I don't think Alina has made any public statements about retirement, but who knows? She works for wings of strength now, and is pretty involved organizing the Romania show along with other appearances for them. I wouldn't be surprised if she's taking a break for a bit.

I think Sheila will do pretty well in physique, I wouldn't be surprised if she's top 5 at the Olympia, maybe even top three.
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: freudian1 on August 28, 2019, 12:15:17 am
I'd like to see 2 of the new girls do well -- Jessica Martin and Mona Poursaleh.

They are definitely both exciting new additions to the championships this year. I don't think they have the size yet to do really well at rising Phoenix, but who knows? Bright futures to be sure.
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: luis3iguel on August 28, 2019, 01:21:25 pm
Dont forget the pro debut of Kristina Mendoza she have the best legs that be hard to judge Margie Martin, Aleesha Young are huge too
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: PatchAu7 on August 28, 2019, 02:14:54 pm
 
Some names come to mind... What do you think of these few surprises for the Final Top:
- Andrea Shaw (new great face for the "promotion" of sport among younger women. She's young. Her resplendent serene charm illuminates as much as her abundant muscle, volume especially her impressive pecs).
- Vera Mikulcova (huge muscles well matured, with an effort on presentation and makeup, and the time she has blessed to prepare, the Mountain of Muscles could, clash, detonate ... or be out of tune?) 
- Robin Hillis (She had time to prepare. Sructurelleally hyper massive, if she arrives shredded...).
- Pauline Nelson (Super sexy monster filled with veins).
- Janeen (perhaps at the Summit of Her Art)...
- Tina Williams (Titanic Beauty)...
What do you think?
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: luvhuge on August 28, 2019, 02:30:10 pm
terrific line-up
the "real female bodybuilding" is back!
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: rigoberto on August 28, 2019, 05:47:46 pm
Awesome list. Regret the absences of Alina, Sheila and Virginia.

1- Margie  Marvelous.

2- Monique  Jones.

3- Helle  Treviño.

  :wow:   :bravo:
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: FemFlexUSA on August 28, 2019, 08:48:06 pm
No one has shared the dates and/or location?  Times?  Ticket prices???

Come on, group - share what you know!
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: freudian1 on August 28, 2019, 09:43:17 pm
Dont forget the pro debut of Kristina Mendoza she have the best legs that be hard to judge Margie Martin, Aleesha Young are huge too

Kristina is phenomenal, and her legs are world class for sure. It'll be interesting to see what her conditioning is, and how much the judges care about that. I hope she does well!
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: freudian1 on August 28, 2019, 09:59:42 pm

Some names come to mind... What do you think of these few surprises for the Final Top:
- Andrea Shaw (new great face for the "promotion" of sport among younger women. She's young. Her resplendent serene charm illuminates as much as her abundant muscle, volume especially her impressive pecs).
- Vera Mikulcova (huge muscles well matured, with an effort on presentation and makeup, and the time she has blessed to prepare, the Mountain of Muscles could, clash, detonate ... or be out of tune?) 
- Robin Hillis (She had time to prepare. Sructurelleally hyper massive, if she arrives shredded...).
- Pauline Nelson (Super sexy monster filled with veins).
- Janeen (perhaps at the Summit of Her Art)...
- Tina Williams (Titanic Beauty)...
What do you think?

Andrea Shaw looked great in Chicago, and legitimately pushed Aleesha Young for the title. I think she could surprise some people.

Robin posted some photos on Inst@gram which suggest her-conditioning is coming along really well, I have her top 5.

I personally don't think Vera will do very well, I think the wings of strength and the judges are really trying to emphasize femininity as they try to bring FBB back into the Olympia. And with all due respect I don't think that's a strength of hers.

So hard to predict where Pauline, Tina Williams,& Janeen will end up, I wouldn't be surprised if any of them were knocking on the door of the top 10, but I don't think any higher then that. That's not a knock on them, but this year's pool is so deep.
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: freudian1 on August 28, 2019, 10:02:18 pm
No one has shared the dates and/or location?  Times?  Ticket prices???

Come on, group - share what you know!

It's been heavily promoted, I just assumed everyone would know. Saturday, September 7, near Phoenix Arizona. All the relevant information is here:

https://www.wosrisingphoenix.com/
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: h666666 on August 29, 2019, 10:25:43 pm
Wow… not easy to predict! If there's no political BS, then Margie, Helle, Monique, and Aleesha all have a chance. From what I've seen this year, Helle is a bit small, and Aleesha has made huge improvements, but then Monique is also a monster.

Andrea Shaw looks fantastic, but she's all arms and delts and pecs, her lower body is not up there yet (no pun intended).

I'd go with:

1. Margie
2. Aleesha
3. Helle
4. Monique
5. Andrea
6. Michelle

Of course, there can be all kinds of favoritism, and then it's anyone's guess.

Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: bobbyvegas69 on August 30, 2019, 03:07:07 am
My top 6:

1. Margie Marvelous
2. Helle Trevino
3. Monique Jones
4. Andrea Shaw
5. Aleesha Young
6. Pauline  Nelson
6. Barbara Carita
 
coin flip for 6.  :thanks:
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: freudian1 on August 31, 2019, 02:44:40 am
Really pulling for Aleesha to do well, but she's got a lot on her plate that could be affecting her prep. She posted today on Inst@gram that she just got cortisone injections in her neck from that car accident she was in last month. Can't imagine going through the hell that is show prep with a bad neck!  If she ends up not placing as well as many of us think, that unfortunately could be the reason why.
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: PatchAu7 on August 31, 2019, 03:49:24 pm
Will we be able to download again, via MA, FTV, or others, all these contestS canon to come? There was a time when, the high-quality accounts of these contests "flocked" to the web thanks to our friends. USAMuscle Women was doing a good job but they seem to be focusing on re-editing old NPCs. Good for them and for those like us who love memorable NPCs. But, one in the other, for the most recent competitions it's a shame. Is there any problem with rights and big money?
Besides it is also a pity not to be able to download the Mythical Miss Olympia. GMV offers some, only on DVD. When Miss Olympia 1991, 2009 and so many other masterpieces will they be remastered ready to be downloaded...
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: luis3iguel on September 01, 2019, 12:06:49 am
Will we be able to download again, via MA, FTV, or others, all these contestS canon to come? There was a time when, the high-quality accounts of these contests "flocked" to the web thanks to our friends. USAMuscle Women was doing a good job but they seem to be focusing on re-editing old NPCs. Good for them and for those like us who love memorable NPCs. But, one in the other, for the most recent competitions it's a shame. Is there any problem with rights and big money?
Besides it is also a pity not to be able to download the Mythical Miss Olympia. GMV offers some, only on DVD. When Miss Olympia 1991, 2009 and so many other masterpieces will they be remastered ready to be downloaded...
Well GMV have in digital Ms Olympia 1982 and others like 1999 i hope Weider convert to digital.
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: PatchAu7 on September 01, 2019, 02:38:02 pm
Will we be able to download again, via MA, FTV, or others, all these contestS canon to come? There was a time when, the high-quality accounts of these contests "flocked" to the web thanks to our friends. USAMuscle Women was doing a good job but they seem to be focusing on re-editing old NPCs. Good for them and for those like us who love memorable NPCs. But, one in the other, for the most recent competitions it's a shame. Is there any problem with rights and big money?
Besides it is also a pity not to be able to download the Mythical Miss Olympia. GMV offers some, only on DVD. When Miss Olympia 1991, 2009 and so many other masterpieces will they be remastered ready to be downloaded...
Well GMV have in digital Ms Olympia 1982 and others like 1999 i hope Weider convert to digital.

I know. I have them allready.
Those are just others I was talking about, The Untraceable Downloads, including the Olympias of: 1991, 1993, 1995-1999, 2002-2014. And especially 2009! I've got 1999 Miss O from WPW, but does there exist another version with other angles?
I already had the oldest in VHS, in a deplorable state. But remastered, it must be great to rediscover them in very high quality, do not forget the bonus-rushes-forgotten scenes... They must have some hell of a piece of equipment in the studios. How not to market, to grow all this on the web in an immaterial way, these would be undeniable resources for the Female Bodybuilding - only if, well redistributed. But, as they say here, "there's money to be made" for them, and a lot of joy to give to the fans, right?
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: freudian1 on September 02, 2019, 04:33:16 am
Fuck, Aleesha is not in the competitors' list…

Well that's not reassuring,but I have noticed that competitors get left off of the list pretty frequently by mistake. Silvia and Barbara are also not on that list, but if you look on Inst@gram they are both still planning on going. Helle was left off of the Tampa Pro list up until the last moment. So unless Aleesha announces something herself, I think it's more likely than not that she'll still be there.

https://www.ifbbpro.com/events/2019-arizona-pro-rising-phoenix-womens-bodybuilding-world-championship/
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: luis3iguel on September 02, 2019, 01:14:05 pm
Fuck, Aleesha is not in the competitors' list…

Well that's not reassuring,but I have noticed that competitors get left off of the list pretty frequently by mistake. Silvia and Barbara are also not on that list, but if you look on Inst@gram they are both still planning on going. Helle was left off of the Tampa Pro list up until the last moment. So unless Aleesha announces something herself, I think it's more likely than not that she'll still be there.

https://www.ifbbpro.com/events/2019-arizona-pro-rising-phoenix-womens-bodybuilding-world-championship/
Amanda Ptak appear in the list she qualify?
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: freudian1 on September 02, 2019, 03:51:59 pm
Fuck, Aleesha is not in the competitors' list…

Well that's not reassuring,but I have noticed that competitors get left off of the list pretty frequently by mistake. Silvia and Barbara are also not on that list, but if you look on Inst@gram they are both still planning on going. Helle was left off of the Tampa Pro list up until the last moment. So unless Aleesha announces something herself, I think it's more likely than not that she'll still be there.

https://www.ifbbpro.com/events/2019-arizona-pro-rising-phoenix-womens-bodybuilding-world-championship/
Amanda Ptak appear in the list she qualify?

No, Amanda didn't qualify, that's another error. Her name is on both the bodybuilding list, and the physique list. Pretty sure she's just competing in physique, and they copied her name on the bodybuilding list by mistake.
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: PatchAu7 on September 02, 2019, 03:55:23 pm
We don't know how invitations are awarded! There are big absences. But then: what interest has a championship, and its system of points, whose laureates, or points-winners, are not fully represented in the Grand Final. Let's hope we don't get to promote a Masters where players between 7th and 12th place are missing, and then the 30ths would be invited to fill the defection. I have nothing against Farah Faulkner and Amanda, but there are many priority contenders in the Hierarchy of Female BB. For the first mentioned, I don't see who she is right now, oh, yah, i see… and for the second, it's as if an asteroid is coming... but it will not do any damage, it will disintegrate in the atmosphere ... I mean, for Amanda, I'm afraid she's coming out of shape like those predecessors in a certain Recent Comeback, and for both, what are they doing there and why not others? To replace Vera !!?? They won't be two enough to hide her scale... lol
I hope that the registrations or invitations will not end there. That was the case in the last Tampa, so the hope is safe. As for Aleesha, let's not forget her accident, which unfortunately makes her absence that we will all regrede, and quick regablissements Delicious Aleesha, courage and strength!
We'd announced many other 3D girls... that she doesn't come, She!!!
Doesn't all this hide an eternal tendency to return to less muscle, or, failing that, fewer hardcore muscular competitors? I ask the question, reassure us by proving ourselves otherwise. Nevertheless, the list preserves our Magnificent Muscle Goddesses as expected and still reserves us - good - surprises...
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: luis3iguel on September 02, 2019, 05:20:26 pm
We need to wait for the final and official list Kristina Nicole Mendoza dont appear in the list i wanna see the battle thighs Margie, Kristina, Aleesha and Helle
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: freudian1 on September 03, 2019, 01:17:29 am
We need to wait for the final and official list Kristina Nicole Mendoza dont appear in the list i wanna see the battle thighs Margie, Kristina, Aleesha and Helle

I agree, we need to wait for the final list. But personally I'm pretty sure everyone is going to be there.
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: PatchAu7 on September 04, 2019, 05:42:28 pm
Our new prediction (very daring!):
1 Robin Hillis
2 Marvelous Margie
3 Monique Jones
4 Andrea Shaw
5 Vera Mikulcova
6 Helle Trevino
7 Pauline Nelson
8 Kristina Mendoza
19 Janeen Lankowski
10 Theresa Ivancik
11th Tina Williams
12th Irene Anderson

With the predictions of Freudian1, Bobbyvegas69 and with ours, not to forget the Luis3iguel's "Battle Thighs", which we equate as a "podium", and

- Counting 12 points for the 1st, 11 for the 2nd, and so on... we get:

1st Margie Marvelous 69POINTS
2nd Helle Trevino-56POINTS
3rd Monique Jones-51POINTS
4th Aleesha 40POINTS
5th Andrea Shaw-36POINTS
6th Pauline Nelson-30POINTS
7th Kristina Mendoza 30POINTS
8th Robin Hillis-17POINTS
9th Vera Mikulcova-16POINTS
10 Janeen Lankowski-9POINTS
11th Theresa Ivancik - 9POINTS
12th Tina Williams-6POINTS
13th Irene Anderson - 1POINT
 
- And the proportional average:

1 Margie Marvelous 11.5
2 Monique Jones 10.2
3 Helle Trevino-9.33
4 Andrea Shaw 9
5 Robin Hillis 8.5
6 Janeen Lankowski 8.5
7 Aleesha 8
8 Vera Mikulcova 8
9 Pauline Nelson 7.5
10 Kristina Mendoza 7.5
11theresa Ivancik - 4.5
12th Tina Williams 3
13th Irene Anderson - 1

- And the average predictions of "gamblers":

1 Margie Marvelous 1.33
2 Monique Jones 2.8
3 Helle Trevino 2.83
4 Andrea Shaw 4
5 Robin Hillis 4.5
6 Aleesha 4.8
7 Pauline Nelson 5
8 Vera Mikulcova
9 Kristina Mendoza 7.5
10 Janeen Lankowski
11 theresa Ivancik - 8.5
12 Tina Williams-10/2
13 Irene Anderson - 12/1

TOTAL 3 rankings:
 
1st Margie Marvelous
2nd Monique Jones
3rd Helle Trevino
4th Andrea
5th Aleesha
6th Robin Hillis
7th Pauline Nelson
8th Vera
9th Janeen
10th Kristina Mendoza
11th Theresa Ivancik
12th Tina Williams
13th Irene Anderson
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: luis3iguel on September 04, 2019, 11:45:15 pm
Well is a tie prediction Theresa Ivancik have a great upper body but her legs need mass i hope this time have a good pose not like northfolk her the more mininal mistake cost a lot
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: freudian1 on September 05, 2019, 04:36:22 am
Well, that certainly is a bold prediction, patchAu! But I think this will be a show full of surprises, so maybe the winner will be a complete surprise. I appreciate all the work that went into those calculations as well. Pretty good proof that Margie is the favorite. I wonder if it is possible to bet on this show? It is being held at a casino after all... ;)
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: luis3iguel on September 05, 2019, 02:44:47 pm
The days past the waiting crush our brains 2 days more for the great event
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: PatchAu7 on September 05, 2019, 04:03:21 pm
The days past the waiting crush our brains 2 days more for the great event
:singing:

They're going to blow it up!
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: buildy on September 05, 2019, 08:31:33 pm
Just arrived in Phoenix
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: PatchAu7 on September 05, 2019, 08:46:11 pm
Just arrived in Phoenix
how Lucky you are
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: luis3iguel on September 06, 2019, 03:24:31 pm
I said a battle of thighs is coming now the battle of chest Andrea Shaw,Pauline Nelson, Helle, Margie,Theresa ,irene,their are my candidates, and the last battle of bíceps, Aleesha, Margie, Andrea, Theresa,Pauline
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: luis3iguel on September 06, 2019, 04:55:52 pm
I forgot Monique un the Battle of bíceps i cant wait to tomorrow for know you will be the queen
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: PatchAu7 on September 06, 2019, 11:25:50 pm
I forgot Monique un the Battle of bíceps i cant wait to tomorrow for know you will be the queen

Indeed, the final list of glad elected! For God's sake, what a frustrating bad suspense! Listening to The Beatles' It Won't Be Long, in order to hold on Clash of the World's Most Muscled Women at the T. moment, why not a little prognostic on the different "Battles" that will be to be conducted.

For the thighs I forecast well,
1st Margie Marvelous. Insane. A her maxi indethroned in terms of volume and definition. Can we be more monstrous with such quads and adductors.
2nd Helle Trevino. For her buttocks streaked like two flints, and these calves ... In the end, the physiognomy in its details and the general shape.   
3rd Jocker Vera, whom I would love to see!! A double risk given her potential absence and her "bad press", I know well, but it's stronger than me, I'd like to see her, overmuscled, and made up like a princess, create The Surprise!
4th Monique Jones risks exploding her thin skin with quads... or is it in danger of exploding the evening competitors.
5th Aleesha, Jocker 2, in the same order of perspective. Without looking too much, she has already been able to show well sculpted legs and buttocks, both little-big bulging and striated.
6th Pauline Nelson. Could she burst everyone with superhuman vascularity and overexcited adductor-pubis over-exciting?
7th Kristina Mendoza, how to forget it! Could she, too, knock everyone out !!! The latest peaks attest to the discovery of another continent!!

For pecs
1st Andrea could present two huge ripped masses animated by the freshness and audacity of her smiling youth. Insanely beautiful. 
2nd Margie, the antithesis striated. 
3rd Vera Again. Real Pure Huge Pecs.
4th Pauline Nelson. Authentic and huge pectorals filled with veins! Hardcore. Insane.
5th Aleesha could put everyone in agreement by hardening them to the extreme because the volume is already to be resold. 
6th Monique Jones, idem, Ditto.
7th Robin Hillis what volume! She worked the definition like never before her late days, she could be a big surprise, overall.
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: h666666 on September 06, 2019, 11:42:19 pm
Good to see Aleesha back in the list! Also Kristina Nicole Mendoza.
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: PatchAu7 on September 07, 2019, 01:20:34 am
 No 20th Jocker Vera !!! Very very sad.
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: gordonlloyd on September 07, 2019, 12:02:33 pm
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Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: gordonlloyd on September 07, 2019, 12:50:25 pm
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Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: luis3iguel on September 07, 2019, 01:24:42 pm
now i see some girls add mass in their bodys MONIQUE JONES SHE HAVE A CANNONBALLS IN HER SHOULDERS Helle looks more bigger is a great battle coming  :clap:
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: PatchAu7 on September 07, 2019, 02:11:45 pm
now i see some girls add mass in their bodys MONIQUE JONES SHE HAVE A CANNONBALLS IN HER SHOULDERS Helle looks more bigger is a great battle coming  :clap:

Am I dreaming or am I blind? I find it personally, the girls seem a little too skinny and exhausting! As if they had to increase the diet... See what I mean?
Apart from a few like Helle - amazing as usual, Margie who however seems softer ... But we haven't seen It all...
A thought for Vera that we are sorry not to see, again, in Phoenix. Fears for the general level... And, will we be able to see videos of the show? Direct poadcast or VOD afterwards?
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: Timmon on September 07, 2019, 03:03:39 pm
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Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: PatchAu7 on September 07, 2019, 04:07:40 pm
 :angry:


 :what:  French Muscle Sensation Anne Mohn's missing too ! Really unfortunate...
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: PatchAu7 on September 07, 2019, 05:09:44 pm
:angry:


 :what:  French Muscle Sensation Anne Mohn's missing too ! Really unfortunate...
I think she compite in the olympias like Sheila Bleck
:thanks:

It won't the case for Vera Fbb. A pity she's not compeet with big girlz !!!!!!!
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: PatchAu7 on September 07, 2019, 10:18:10 pm
Any live stream of this competition

https://livestream.com/digitalmuscle/events/8789781?fbclid=IwAR27u9ojU5EejZOJAXfW0-CIudDhu46DEYvwnAw1-OeKbBNLsZTxWx5wCtI  :woot:
How can we ge it ?
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: gordonlloyd on September 07, 2019, 10:21:47 pm
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Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: buildy on September 07, 2019, 10:30:37 pm
Here some low-quality snaps from a lil cam

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Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: PatchAu7 on September 07, 2019, 11:32:55 pm
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    Predictions after 1st round, personal wishes combined with some admission from the judges:
1 Margie
2 Helle
3 Irene
4 Monique
5 Pauline
6 Nikki
7 Aleesha
8 Janeen
3 Andrea
10 Theresa
11th Monna
12th Jessica
13th Silvia
14 Kim
15 Tina
16 Barb
17 Robin
18 Kristina
19 Susan
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: moleman2005 on September 07, 2019, 11:50:13 pm
livestream:

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Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: cold316 on September 08, 2019, 01:58:11 am
After the prejuding my opinion
1- Helle
2-Margie
3-Irene
4-Nicky
5-Monique
6-Aleesha
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: sycamore on September 08, 2019, 04:31:33 am
Theresa Ivancik (sp) looking very nice. I see her in the top 5.
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: sycamore on September 08, 2019, 04:32:34 am
Mona Poursaleh = dreamy! She's like Jasmine from Aladdin with a hot bod.
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: sycamore on September 08, 2019, 04:34:26 am
Jessica Martin quietly looking terrific.
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: sycamore on September 08, 2019, 04:36:46 am
Kristine Mendoza = future superstar. But her conditioning is well off tonight.
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: sycamore on September 08, 2019, 04:46:09 am
Mona Poursaleh should be very proud of her placing.
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: buildy on September 08, 2019, 04:50:50 am
6th Theresa Ivancik
5th Monique Jones
4th Nicki Chartrand
3th Irene Andersen
2nd Margie Martin
1st Helle Trevino
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: sycamore on September 08, 2019, 04:53:44 am
Congrats to super-hunk Helle. Boy was she loaded with muscle.

Personally I would have had Jessica Martin and Mona Poursaleh in the top 5. Take Nikki and Margie (who didn't look particularly impressive) out.
But what do I know.  :(
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: Old Surehand on September 08, 2019, 05:21:55 am
6th Theresa Ivancik
5th Monique Jones
4th Nicki Chartrand
3th Irene Andersen
2nd Margie Martin
1st Helle Trevino

Thanks, buildy.

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Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: birmi482 on September 08, 2019, 05:56:12 am
Congrats to Helle - but again, conditioning is the only thing that counts to the judges, muscle mass totally unimportant - bad news for the Amazonka and other big ladies....
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: buildy on September 08, 2019, 07:31:48 am
If Nataliya comes in with a good combination of muscle mass and decent conditioning, she'll be hard to beat
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: birmi482 on September 08, 2019, 07:44:53 am
,@buildy. I really wish that you are right. But I fear thar her huge muscle mass even with good conditioning will deter the judges as they will always see her as "negative example" for someone who 7s too big and too strong, in opposite to how fans see her as the by far most popular and beloved fbb globally
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: Timmon on September 08, 2019, 07:48:02 am
Arizona Pro Women’s Physique Winners!
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1. Penpraghai Tiangngok
2. Natalia Abraham Coelho
3. Jennifer Taylor
4. Trish Wood
5. Margita Zamolova
6. Ashley Fuller
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: buildy on September 08, 2019, 10:10:50 am
Jessica Martin quietly looking terrific.

Pure hotness,I really liked her
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: buildy on September 08, 2019, 10:13:25 am
,@buildy. I really wish that you are right. But I fear thar her huge muscle mass even with good conditioning will deter the judges as they will always see her as "negative example" for someone who 7s too big and too strong, in opposite to how fans see her as the by far most popular and beloved fbb globally

Well lets wait and see.
AND encourage Nataliya.
I have a good vibe she does well if she comes inshape
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: birmi482 on September 08, 2019, 10:17:48 am
How do you want to encourage her? From her competition clips which are on the internet, it looks as she always had huge muscle mass, much more than anyone else competing with her, but lacking the conditioning which these days judges want to see.
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: gordonlloyd on September 08, 2019, 10:45:45 am
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Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: gordonlloyd on September 08, 2019, 10:46:35 am
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Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: luis3iguel on September 08, 2019, 02:05:16 pm
the most muscular dont be in the final 6  :what: Monique in the 5th place i think she be in 4th place or 3th place Margie in 2th place its fine Helle was more ripped simetry and mass now she and Margie are a twice Champion Kristina she have a great mass only need more defination and organization conciderate for made class for height and weigth Irene,Robin,Monique,Nicki are tall in compariton of small girls look skiny but put Monique, Irene,Nicki in the top 6 was good.
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: Old Surehand on September 08, 2019, 02:48:46 pm
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Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: Old Surehand on September 08, 2019, 02:56:54 pm
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Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: gordonlloyd on September 08, 2019, 04:57:29 pm
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Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: e_honda on September 08, 2019, 08:51:59 pm
I’m happy for Irene Anderson. She’s been competing for a long time and it seems like she never finishes higher than 7th or 8th at these big shows.

I think she’s 52 or 53 and she was in the best shape of her life at this show. She has a big/long frame that she never seemed to be able to totally fill out, but this was probably the closest she’s come to actually doing that.

She beat a lot of women have been placing ahead of her for many years now. Congrats to Irene.
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: FemFlexUSA on September 08, 2019, 09:23:52 pm
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I have to agree. Her quads looked like she needed to push out some water. And she really need to work on her back. She has next year to make her improvements.
It's almost as if the 15-20 year head start other women have means nothing.  Kristina is only 27 years old.  Check back with me in 7-8 years.
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: gordonlloyd on September 08, 2019, 09:33:19 pm
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Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: cold316 on September 09, 2019, 10:59:32 am
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Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: h666666 on September 09, 2019, 08:45:42 pm
Margie could have been tighter… there were some women who didn't look ready for a show of this caliber… and geez, I had to wait for what felt like half a day for all the Fitness, Wellness, Spa, Figure, Shape, Form, Silhouette, Bikini, One-Piece, Heels, etc. divisions before bodybuilding… This proliferation of classes is a travesty!
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: freudian1 on September 10, 2019, 12:01:49 am
 I haven’t posted anything until now because I was also at the show! It was an awesome  event, I definitely recommend going if you can. 


 So many things that I could say, but here are a few things off of the top of my head: 


- I agreed with Helle  being the winner, but  I went back-and-forth several times in the pre-judging. Two fantastic champions with different physiques.  Also, I think it’s great that we can go into a contest not knowing who is going to win. 


- I have a strong suspicion that the advice given to the competitors by the judges and by wings of strength that they were going to reward fullness and femininity, and that it was better to come in under conditioned than over conditioned.  They definitely still rewarded conditioning, which is why Helle and Irene did so well,  but I think many of the ladies decided  to be cautious in that area? 


- Monique Jones was in a class by herself when it came to size. As much as I love Aleesha,  I was stunned when she got most muscular, and not Monique.  I do think  fifth place was the right spot for Monique , she came in a little soft and a little top-heavy. Her symmetry was still very good, but  her shoulders and back are so massive that it’s hard to build legs that keep up. 


-  Andrea Shaw is just awesome.  Future star to be sure.  :heart:


-Kristina Mendoza came in with a disappointing package, her conditioning looked worse than Chicago, which shocked me.  But  it was still a thrill to see her on stage, and I’m sure she’ll be better next year. 


- So many of the ladies are super nice in person, though it’s best to approach them after they’ve eaten, LOL.  During the posedown they were super appreciative of those of us who were cheering loudly, and many were very approachable at the after party. 



Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: luis3iguel on September 10, 2019, 12:43:17 am
The top 6 Theresa Ivancik champion in Northfolk,Monique Jones Champion of Romania 2018,Nicki Chartrant,champip toronto 2018, Margie Martín champ Toronto and Omaha 2019,and Helle Trevino champ tampa 2019, Irene Andersen in 3th place,
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: birmi482 on September 10, 2019, 02:25:52 am
@freudian1. I maybe was not at the event like you, but following from far away, my conclusions are somehow different:

1. Conditioning, conditioning. This is still the holy grail of everything for the judges.

2. Muscle mass being punished. Monique Jones' legs may not be her strongest part, but so they were last year in Romania where she won. The only athlete in the world that can match huge shoulders with her legs is Nataliya Amazonka, but i really doubt that judges would reward her for that, given the current regime.
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: gordonlloyd on September 10, 2019, 10:33:06 am
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Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: FemFlexUSA on September 10, 2019, 03:55:27 pm
I haven’t posted anything until now because I was also at the show! It was an awesome  event, I definitely recommend going if you can.


 So many things that I could say, but here are a few things off of the top of my head:


- I agreed with Helle  being the winner, but  I went back-and-forth several times in the pre-judging. Two fantastic champions with different physiques.  Also, I think it’s great that we can go into a contest not knowing who is going to win.


- I have a strong suspicion that the advice given to the competitors by the judges and by wings of strength that they were going to reward fullness and femininity, and that it was better to come in under conditioned than over conditioned.  They definitely still rewarded conditioning, which is why Helle and Irene did so well,  but I think many of the ladies decided  to be cautious in that area?


- Monique Jones was in a class by herself when it came to size. As much as I love Aleesha,  I was stunned when she got most muscular, and not Monique.  I do think  fifth place was the right spot for Monique , she came in a little soft and a little top-heavy. Her symmetry was still very good, but  her shoulders and back are so massive that it’s hard to build legs that keep up.


-  Andrea Shaw is just awesome.  Future star to be sure.  :heart:


-Kristina Mendoza came in with a disappointing package, her conditioning looked worse than Chicago, which shocked me.  But  it was still a thrill to see her on stage, and I’m sure she’ll be better next year.


- So many of the ladies are super nice in person, though it’s best to approach them after they’ve eaten, LOL.  During the posedown they were super appreciative of those of us who were cheering loudly, and many were very approachable at the after party.

It's wonderful to hear so many different opinions from people who were at the show, but the greatest thing is that you were present. I know to a certainty - this I am reporting from firsthand accounts - that MOST of the women bodybuilders love the true fans of bodybuilding who come to their shows. It's one thing to be an internet fan (and they understand it is not possible for most people to travel to Phoenix), but the guys who arrange flight tickets and hotel and show tickets to see them compete are held in a high esteem by the competitors.
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: freudian1 on September 12, 2019, 04:27:33 am
@freudian1. I maybe was not at the event like you, but following from far away, my conclusions are somehow different:

1. Conditioning, conditioning. This is still the holy grail of everything for the judges.

2. Muscle mass being punished. Monique Jones' legs may not be her strongest part, but so they were last year in Romania where she won. The only athlete in the world that can match huge shoulders with her legs is Nataliya Amazonka, but i really doubt that judges would reward her for that, given the current regime.

@birmi482.  I respect where you are coming from. I don’t fully agree, but let me clarify what I mean. 


1.  I agree that conditioning remains extremely important to the judges. But it’s not everything, otherwise Irene (who have the superior conditioning) would have placed higher than Margie.  Pauline Nelson had standout  conditioning and incredibly grainy skin, but got 13th. 


I still think the current messaging to the competitors is that they won’t _win_ a show without great conditioning, but they can still do really well with solid conditioning and focusing on other elements of their physique. 


 Even though it’s a different category, I think it’s interesting to look at what happened in women’s physique at rising Phoenix. Natalia Coelho  the defending champion and showed up with insane conditioning like she always does. But they gave her second place and gave the title to someone who had more fullness, but nowhere near the same level of conditioning. 


2.  It’s hard for me to agree that muscle mass is being punished when the top five places went to five of the largest women in the show. Helle is 17 pounds heavier than when she won in 2017 and they still gave her the title.  If your  viewpoint is that the title should go to the most massive competitor then I can get why you would be upset,  even though I don’t think that’s ever been the way winners have been picked. I love the girls who get massive as well, Monique‘s upper body was the single most impressive spectacle I saw all weekend.  And yes, the judges don’t love size the way we do. But they seem to appreciate it. 


 Ask for Natalya Amazonka, it’ll be very interesting to see if she brings pro level conditioning to the Romania stage, and  who else shows up to compete. i'm optimistic they would reward her.


Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: birmi482 on September 12, 2019, 12:50:58 pm
@freudian1. Thanks for your comments. Yes, i may be biased towards muscle mass and Nataliya Amazonka, but I am not alone, 500K followers on insta seem to substantiate this. For offseason her muscle mass plus definition is just unbelievable, she is offseason more defined than all other FBB  having by far the largest muscle mass !!!! But we speak about competition and I really doubt that her conditioning in Romania will be anything close to the top girls in Tampa. If you compare her body in last year's Romania show where she won as Amateur, to the Pros at rhe same event which was won by Monique, the difference was extraordinary. She was so much larger then the Pros with so much more muscle mass that even Monique looked tiny next to her, but her conditioning was so much off the marks that she would have probably placed last at the Pro event while all the fans were completely taken over by her size and proportions and she would have won any fan contest. So who was right in Romania, fans or judges? This is exactly my point
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: birmi482 on September 12, 2019, 12:57:35 pm
I meant to say her conditioning won't be anywhere close to the girla at Rising Phoenix
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: Warhawk Overdrive on October 05, 2019, 04:51:27 pm
I haven’t posted anything until now because I was also at the show! It was an awesome  event, I definitely recommend going if you can.


 So many things that I could say, but here are a few things off of the top of my head:


- I agreed with Helle  being the winner, but  I went back-and-forth several times in the pre-judging. Two fantastic champions with different physiques.  Also, I think it’s great that we can go into a contest not knowing who is going to win.


- I have a strong suspicion that the advice given to the competitors by the judges and by wings of strength that they were going to reward fullness and femininity, and that it was better to come in under conditioned than over conditioned.  They definitely still rewarded conditioning, which is why Helle and Irene did so well,  but I think many of the ladies decided  to be cautious in that area?


- Monique Jones was in a class by herself when it came to size. As much as I love Aleesha,  I was stunned when she got most muscular, and not Monique.  I do think  fifth place was the right spot for Monique , she came in a little soft and a little top-heavy. Her symmetry was still very good, but  her shoulders and back are so massive that it’s hard to build legs that keep up.


-  Andrea Shaw is just awesome.  Future star to be sure.  :heart:


-Kristina Mendoza came in with a disappointing package, her conditioning looked worse than Chicago, which shocked me.  But  it was still a thrill to see her on stage, and I’m sure she’ll be better next year.


- So many of the ladies are super nice in person, though it’s best to approach them after they’ve eaten, LOL.  During the posedown they were super appreciative of those of us who were cheering loudly, and many were very approachable at the after party.

It's wonderful to hear so many different opinions from people who were at the show, but the greatest thing is that you were present. I know to a certainty - this I am reporting from firsthand accounts - that MOST of the women bodybuilders love the true fans of bodybuilding who come to their shows. It's one thing to be an internet fan (and they understand it is not possible for most people to travel to Phoenix), but the guys who arrange flight tickets and hotel and show tickets to see them compete are held in a high esteem by the competitors.

That is nice to hear. One of the reasons I stopped going to shows was because I did not think the women appreciated the fans being there.  After a while I came to feel that bodybuilding shows were basically conventions for people in the industry.  If you are not a bodybuilder, promoter or photographer or someone who knew someone in the show..... well, you were tolerated but not much else. Just buying a ticket was not enough. Most of the time the best an average fan can hope for is a few pictures. And most of those will be of the women onstage.

I'm not saying I ever expected anyone (women in this case) to drop to their knees and kiss my feet :::Oh you are a fan?! Here let me fluff that pillow for you:::: But you try to talk to them and they let someone (another bodybuilder, promoter, photographer) interrupt then they walk away like you were not there. Or (some of them) make you feel like a creep or stalker because you wanted a picture of them. After a few years of that you get the message.

I really hope things are changing for the guys who go to shows. My (admittedly uninformed) view is that anytime the ladies say anything good about the fans is the exception. If they acknowledge the fans at all.


IMO
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: FemFlexUSA on October 07, 2019, 05:07:32 am
That is nice to hear. One of the reasons I stopped going to shows was because I did not think the women appreciated the fans being there.  After a while I came to feel that bodybuilding shows were basically conventions for people in the industry.  If you are not a bodybuilder, promoter or photographer or someone who knew someone in the show..... well, you were tolerated but not much else. Just buying a ticket was not enough. Most of the time the best an average fan can hope for is a few pictures. And most of those will be of the women onstage.

I'm not saying I ever expected anyone (women in this case) to drop to their knees and kiss my feet :::Oh you are a fan?! Here let me fluff that pillow for you:::: But you try to talk to them and they let someone (another bodybuilder, promoter, photographer) interrupt then they walk away like you were not there. Or (some of them) make you feel like a creep or stalker because you wanted a picture of them. After a few years of that you get the message.

I really hope things are changing for the guys who go to shows. My (admittedly uninformed) view is that anytime the ladies say anything good about the fans is the exception. If they acknowledge the fans at all.

IMO

I'm bummed to hear that what you've shared here are primary memories of going to shows and since you were actually present and experiencing this, I wouldn't consider you uninformed at all.  I know exactly what you're describing and yes, there was always this layer of participants and enablers who held an undefinable animosity towards "just fans" of female bodybuilders.  Photographers and promoters and "managers" were often in on it, too.  But if you ever got a chance to attend the Jan Tana - especially the banquet - there were really cool times sitting down and breaking bread with the stars of the show.  And now, it seems those days are here again on the bodybuilding side. 
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: imanze on October 07, 2019, 09:41:05 am
IMO, many many thanks for expressing your frustration, which I fully share. I have been to two shows only, I must admit, travelling all the way from Europe but, as a fan, I felt completely neglected and even ridiculised at times, just for not being in the industry.
I really wonder where this industry makes money. Probably not with the general public.
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: freudian1 on October 19, 2019, 01:24:29 am
I'm not going to question anyone else's bad experiences, and of course it goes without saying that some of the competitors are approachable in their personality and some are not.

I think it's worth reminding ourselves that in professional sports, it's extremely rare for fans to have any kind of substantive contact with the athletes on the day of competition. So I think we are a little bit lucky in the access that we do have.And personally I'm a little amazed at that when they are dieting, starving, and focused on competing that some of them still have the patience to chat with complete strangers. I'm not sure that I would.

I feel pretty certain that the ladies do appreciate those who buy tickets and come to the show.But for most of them, it's not the fans at the show who pay their bills. It's the photographers and promoters who give them paid shoots and drive their Internet traffic. And some of them have relationships with the ladies that go back for years. So I'm not surprised that's who they talk to, or that they also prefer to other people in the industry. They've built their lives around working out, it's not surprising that they're more comfortable with other people have a similar outlook. And also, we have to face it, some of us fans ARE creepy. Not many, but it doesn't take much to make people wary when stranger after stranger is coming up to them.

That said, even if you disagree with everything I've just said, I think we can all agree that Wings of strength has made it WAY easier to have a good fan experience. It's a brilliant idea to have their merchandise table staffed by popular women bodybuilders who aren't competing that day, but are just there to meet fans and sell T-shirts. At the Chicago show, I got the chance to have a good 15 minute conversation with Helle Trevino-it was the highlight of my weekend. When I saw her again the night before rising Phoenix, we spoke for about 30 seconds and then she moved on. She remembered me, and thanked me for coming, but she was in competition mode- and I don't blame her for one second, even though of course I would have loved to chat for a long time again.

Just my two cents.
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: deserres on November 05, 2019, 08:09:28 pm
Photos I took during the 2 days of the event...

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Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: deserres on November 05, 2019, 08:42:42 pm
Some more... karma appreciated  ;)

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Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: deserres on November 05, 2019, 09:04:10 pm
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Some prejudging pics too... more to follow!

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Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: deserres on November 06, 2019, 07:38:20 pm
More prejudging photos  ;)

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Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: deserres on November 06, 2019, 07:58:07 pm
Women Physique and Female Bodybuilding categories  :woohoo: Karma appreciated...

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Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: Old Surehand on November 06, 2019, 11:36:30 pm
Very nice of you to post your own pictures from the show, deserres. K+
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: deserres on November 07, 2019, 08:34:53 pm
Thank you for your kind words. I took over 700 photos at the WOS Rising Phoenix event this year (actually my 4th year attending the contest in Arizona), some of them are worth appearing on this forum, where I have not contributed much over the time, I must admit.

Now, let's go to the pictures from the finals!

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Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: deserres on November 07, 2019, 08:44:36 pm
The day after the show, from my hotel room overlooking the swimming pool...   :wow:

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Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: johnnylm on November 07, 2019, 10:05:06 pm
Please tell me you didn't stay on you balcony.
Title: Re: WOS Rising Phoenix 2019
Post by: deserres on November 08, 2019, 08:24:03 pm
There was no balcony, I took the photos from the window of my hotel room on the 6th floor, using the digital zoom of my camera. Luckily you can't notice it, but there was also the glass of the window, which could not be opened... too hot outside in Arizona! I'm quite sure no one noticed me.
I felt like a kind of shmoe version of the character played by James Stewart in "Rear Window" by Alfred Hitchcock!  :cool2: