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Title: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: Goremaul on April 09, 2017, 12:09:28 am
This is precisely the reason I would never send any of these ladies (fitness, FBB, or otherwise) anything. They can get a job just like anyone else, and support themselves like anyone else. I like the way they look, but they're not worth wasting my hard-earned money on.
Title: Re: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: Diesel on April 09, 2017, 01:40:11 pm
Unless I personally know that person's situation I wouldn't send any money
Title: Re: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: gte on April 09, 2017, 04:29:17 pm
This is precisely the reason I would never send any of these ladies (fitness, FBB, or otherwise) anything. They can get a job just like anyone else, and support themselves like anyone else. I like the way they look, but they're not worth wasting my hard-earned money on.
That just goes for anybody.  There is this youtuber that e-begged for money just to buy and review a car.  He made that goal and bought it and sold it a year later for a better one with more power.
Title: Re: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: Online1138 on April 09, 2017, 04:50:21 pm
This is precisely the reason I would never send any of these ladies (fitness, FBB, or otherwise) anything. They can get a job just like anyone else, and support themselves like anyone else. I like the way they look, but they're not worth wasting my hard-earned money on.
That just goes for anybody.  There is this youtuber that e-begged for money just to buy and review a car.  He made that goal and bought it and sold it a year later for a better one with more power.
To be fair, did he review the car before he sold it? If so, I'd say he delivered on what he was advertising.
Title: Re: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: gte on April 09, 2017, 05:21:21 pm
Yes he reviewed the car.  But most people would use their own money though.
Title: Re: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: diggs on April 09, 2017, 05:59:11 pm
The way I see it, there's no harm in asking. We can always say no.
Title: Re: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: nujerz84 on April 10, 2017, 04:10:45 am
Yes they are because there are always guys willing and able to shell out money.
Title: Re: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: ark on April 10, 2017, 04:43:38 am
I see it as begging and don't get involved, but it's not particular to women. Everyone is doing it. There's currently a rock band asking for $800k so they can get their own studio because apparently the traditional label setup is too restrictive for them. This is a band that has released two CDs in thirteen years. And guess what? They're more than half way there.

I don't know anything about Isabelle, but it's certainly possible she just can't keep a buck in her bank account. I've heard people say the main reason deposits are never returned is because the women spend the money as soon as it comes in, just like most people do. Maybe she saw all the money and couldn't keep herself from buying a new car. Not saying this is what happened, or that this would be acceptable, but it's a possibility.

Also turns me off of the women when they say "guyz plz send me paypal money #findom #findom #femdom #findom" all over twitter.
Title: Re: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: Diesel on April 10, 2017, 11:42:17 am
It is begging, except your not standing on a sidewalk on a cold day holding up a sign. Your on the internet, in a nice warm house holding up a sign LOL
Title: Re: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: UK_Fan on April 10, 2017, 01:42:27 pm
Quite often, though not always, a little research on the internet can reap lots of useful information about anyone, particularly those 'help fund me' requests from FBBs.  I personally wouldn't ever contribute to such things for Isabelle, given certain things I've found out about her conduct/way she leads her life; on the other hand, other FBBs such as Alina Popa (during her multiple injuries in recent years) and the late Kris Clark (during her battle with cancer) do/did seem to be genuine and worthy requests for help, at least to me.  I would never contribute to an athlete known for being a 'flake', lying about their income (e.g. has a decent personal income or, more often, has a well-off boyfriend or partner/husband), being less than honest/honourable about other significant issues or frivolously spending money.
Title: Re: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: joe6345 on April 10, 2017, 05:21:03 pm
No it is common sense it is your money if you have it is up to you no one is holding a gun to a persons head. Personally I give to the aspca I don't see giving money to a woman who can make 500 in an hour.Or anyone else unless it is a charity of my choice.
Title: Re: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: diggs on April 10, 2017, 06:44:30 pm
Personally I give to the aspca I don't see giving money to a woman who can make 500 in an hour.

RIGHT???? Sheesh...
Title: Re: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: Polite Society on April 11, 2017, 09:47:21 am
 We're all free to do what the hell we want with our money.   Moaning about those who can get cash or Amazon wish list items is pointless.
Title: Re: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: bclick on April 11, 2017, 11:23:33 am
To All, Yes there are some people that take adantage of others who are willing to shell out money to help someone. But as in the case of an FBB, you have to remember that these girls that compete have to train and diet very hard. Its the equivalent of working a 16hr day to others. Remember, food, supplements, gym fees, trainers etc. could be very costly. In the case of Isabelle I know her personally, and could tell you she is not the type to take advantage of someone for their money. That go fundme page was long ago, and your right she set a goal of 6,000. If she was looking to take advantage of someone she would have had no limit. RIGHT! She trains very hard and deserves everyrhing she has earned, without taking advantage of anyone. So please omit her as an example of girls taking advanage of shmos for their money.    Thank You

Title: Re: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: Lovefbbmega on April 11, 2017, 12:35:56 pm
For some of them not all of them, I d Say YES
read what  I wrote on my facebook and what happened to me
Title: Re: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: nujerz84 on April 11, 2017, 01:54:05 pm
 
To All, Yes there are some people that take adantage of others who are willing to shell out money to help someone. But as in the case of an FBB, you have to remember that these girls that compete have to train and diet very hard. Its the equivalent of working a 16hr day to others. Remember, food, supplements, gym fees, trainers etc. could be very costly. In the case of Isabelle I know her personally, and could tell you she is not the type to take advantage of someone for their money. That go fundme page was long ago, and your right she set a goal of 6,000. If she was looking to take advantage of someone she would have had no limit. RIGHT! She trains very hard and deserves everyrhing she has earned, without taking advantage of anyone. So please omit her as an example of girls taking advanage of shmos for their money.    Thank You

 It is not her fault, the blame really goes to the schmoes who sent her money.  But it is common sense to
say that having a Go Fund Me Page asking for money while showing off recently purchased expensive cars and  photos of your constant travels thru out the country, is not the best look.   Especially how she makes decent off of schmoes through schmo activities.
Title: Re: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: UK_Fan on April 11, 2017, 04:55:41 pm
To All, Yes there are some people that take adantage of others who are willing to shell out money to help someone. But as in the case of an FBB, you have to remember that these girls that compete have to train and diet very hard. Its the equivalent of working a 16hr day to others. Remember, food, supplements, gym fees, trainers etc. could be very costly. In the case of Isabelle I know her personally, and could tell you she is not the type to take advantage of someone for their money. That go fundme page was long ago, and your right she set a goal of 6,000. If she was looking to take advantage of someone she would have had no limit. RIGHT! She trains very hard and deserves everyrhing she has earned, without taking advantage of anyone. So please omit her as an example of girls taking advanage of shmos for their money.    Thank You

 It is not her fault, the blame really goes to the schmoes who sent her money.  But it is common sense to
say that having a Go Fund Me Page asking for money while showing off recently purchased expensive cars and  photos of your constant travels thru out the country, is not the best look.   Especially how she makes decent off of schmoes through schmo activities.

Indeed - bodybuilders aren't soccer, US football or track & field stars who make $Ms from their sport and endorsements - only Arnie and a handfull of others have made a recently decent living off the back off BBing, but some do make reasonable money, though not via 'conventional' means, assuming they don't have a 'normal' day job (quite a feat, given how much time is required to be a top BBer) as quite a few FBBs do.  What bugs me is when FBBs ask for $$$ to cover their expenses in the sport, then (as you say) are shown with their brand new expensive sports car or apparel, or sunning themselves in some up-market resort, whilst REAL dedicated athletes scrape by but dedicate their time, money and effort to the sporting goals, and achieve them more often than the other group who fritter it away.

Ultimately their choice as to how they lead their lives, as well as ours as to whether we feel its worth giving our hard-earned to them (whether via paying for merchandise, crowd-funding, sponsorship or sessions), but sympathy will be in short supply if FBBs lie and rip fans off, just as our often hypocritical approach to paying (or not) for copyrighted video/photo content from these ladies doesn't do their opinion of us fans any good either.  Its not all one-sided.
Title: Re: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: Adam_S on April 12, 2017, 10:24:16 pm
We're all free to do what the hell we want with our money.   Moaning about those who can get cash or Amazon wish list items is pointless.

Exactly. We live in the era of gofundme.com and kickstarter.com. Cmon now. At least these women offer a something in exchange for $. If it doesn't make sense to you, don't spend $ on it. Easy enough.

I personally have never spent $ on a session or anything, although I'm not opposed to it, and I'd do that a million times over before I'd give $50 to a guy I knew in HS who sent me a link to his gofundme page last week. He needs help paying off bills so he can 'get back on his feet.' This guy is 38, gets fired at least 1x/yr for just being a lazy person, and has NO shame in begging for money. This is the 3rd time I've seen one of those from him.
Title: Re: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: Bernie1212 on April 13, 2017, 07:05:54 pm
from the askers perspective, you never really know what you can get without asking.  And you never know who may give if you don't ask.  It is not your fault if they do give.

from a givers perspective, its your money do what you want with it.  for me, I do my research before I do anything with my money, if I felt it was someone I wanted to give to no matter the circumstance then its my money to give........but I rarely do.

To the original question posed in the title of this thread, "Are some women taking advantage of us?"  Yes, but they are only taking advantage of those who are allowing them self to be taken advantage of. 
Title: Re: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: OldSchmoe67 on April 14, 2017, 01:29:05 am
It's hard to believe this is a topic.

These often intensely desirable and uncommon women should enjoy their own hard earned value and the generosity of people willing to help support them. Period.
Title: Re: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: UK_Fan on April 14, 2017, 08:24:06 am
It's hard to believe this is a topic.

These often intensely desirable and uncommon women should enjoy their own hard earned value and the generosity of people willing to help support them. Period.

Its when they lies about the 'support', i.e. not for food, training fees and flights/hotel bills to attend contests, but on flashy sports cars because they already have enough money (other scams or rich hubby?) and take delight in fleecing niaive fans, or similar but squandering it.  Crowd funding is a whole different kettle of fish to paying for a session or video clip, whereby at least you get something in return guaranteed (for the most part) or at least can tell everyone that what you paid for was poor.  It just takes a bit of investigating before you give away your hard-earned cash.  This is especially of importance when FBBs can be easily impersonated on such websites so fans would be crowdfunding a fake account - been done before with so-called charities, actually funding extremists.  I wouldn't be surprised if someone hadn't already tried this, but for 'ordinary' fraudulent reasons (greed).  A bit of common sense is needed, that's all.
Title: Re: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: Cuddlebeam on May 01, 2017, 12:03:49 pm
You don't need to give them money if you won't want to.

Just, don't give into any coaxing or emotional traps. Then, when you, personally, feel like YOU want to give them cash, then give them cash lol.
Title: Re: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: jazzfan999 on July 20, 2017, 01:18:57 pm
I don't know what the exact term is for it, but there are guys who need to send money and things as a form of tribute.  I try not to judge fetishes (to each his/her own), so if a female wishes to take advantage of these guys, and they're anxious to be taken advantage of, why not?  No one is being forced or harmed.  As to whether it demeans either party, I cannot say.  We all make our own decisions and live with whatever consequences result.  Not for me or others to paternalistically intervene.
Title: Re: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: ep92010 on July 21, 2017, 10:02:55 pm
completely agree. for every woman taking advantage of a guy, there's a guy agreeing to be taken advantage of. we're all adults here
Title: Re: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: illestmuscle on July 28, 2017, 02:28:49 am
Well people should have control over their own finance. If they feel like they should pay then they will.

I have personally never paid any fbb, porn, GoFundMe cams or anything like that. I'm going to sound like an ahole saying this, but I honestly don't give a damn whether there is no porn, movies or music. All this entertainment are fluff to me. If it's free or available I'll take it, if it's not I'll move on with my life. I love looking at fbb and all, but between paying for it or have it gone, I would rather have it gone.
Title: Re: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: sw1ngy on July 28, 2017, 10:59:31 pm
I don't really get the anger at the women using the money for luxury either. Should always operate donations as knowing you don't know the future usage of the donation. Obviously this doesn't apply to services.
Title: Re: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: Polite Society on July 29, 2017, 10:34:12 am
I don't really get the anger at the women using the money for luxury either. Should always operate donations as knowing you don't know the future usage of the donation. Obviously this doesn't apply to services.

  Agreed and in essence that is why you should try to get something back for your money.  The nicer women will understand the trade-off.
Title: Re: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: gatorvin on August 14, 2017, 07:02:54 pm
I'm guessing at some stage somebody has latched on trying to get money from us. I had one who basically told me via sms she had installed herself as my girlfriend, even though we lived thousands of miles apart and had met twice only. Then came an endless string of hard luck stories  etc etc. She was my girlfriend though, so don't you treat your girlfriend right? Others would snap her up any time she told me. Answer was clearly no thanks and good luck, but full marks for trying I guess. Isabelle does give something in the sense of lots of amazing pics, vids, fantasy etc etc. There are always chancers in this environment. Easy to spot and easy peasy to avoid by ignoring if you like.
Title: Re: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: Polite Society on August 18, 2017, 12:25:33 pm
I'm guessing at some stage somebody has latched on trying to get money from us. I had one who basically told me via sms she had installed herself as my girlfriend, even though we lived thousands of miles apart and had met twice only. Then came an endless string of hard luck stories  etc etc. She was my girlfriend though, so don't you treat your girlfriend right? Others would snap her up any time she told me. Answer was clearly no thanks and good luck, but full marks for trying I guess. Isabelle does give something in the sense of lots of amazing pics, vids, fantasy etc etc. There are always chancers in this environment. Easy to spot and easy peasy to avoid by ignoring if you like.

  That isn't a nice way to treat your girlfriend.
Title: Re: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: gatorvin on August 19, 2017, 08:02:34 am
I'm guessing at some stage somebody has latched on trying to get money from us. I had one who basically told me via sms she had installed herself as my girlfriend, even though we lived thousands of miles apart and had met twice only. Then came an endless string of hard luck stories  etc etc. She was my girlfriend though, so don't you treat your girlfriend right? Others would snap her up any time she told me. Answer was clearly no thanks and good luck, but full marks for trying I guess. Isabelle does give something in the sense of lots of amazing pics, vids, fantasy etc etc. There are always chancers in this environment. Easy to spot and easy peasy to avoid by ignoring if you like.

  That isn't a nice way to treat your girlfriend.

It is a good way to treat a pest though
Title: Re: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: OldSchmoe67 on September 04, 2017, 10:09:51 am
Well people should have control over their own finance. If they feel like they should pay then they will.

I have personally never paid any fbb, porn, GoFundMe cams or anything like that. I'm going to sound like an ahole saying this, but I honestly don't give a damn whether there is no porn, movies or music. All this entertainment are fluff to me. If it's free or available I'll take it, if it's not I'll move on with my life. I love looking at fbb and all, but between paying for it or have it gone, I would rather have it gone.

Then you either successfully date fbbs/muscular women, don't actually have a fetish or don't have it severely enough to let something as common as money get in the way of its pursuit and fulfillment. Money is everywhere, these women are not, nor are passions voluntary (otherwise, they're not actually passions.) This isn't a choice for many of us. I've joined websites over the years, sure, but what I really prefer to do is pay to see a select few women now and then - no complications, no baggage, no heartbreaks, just experiences that cannot be truly measured by their expenses. If money gets in the way of experiencing this part of life, you're not an a-hole, you're just in the wrong place. I don't think it's for passive admirers.
Title: Re: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: papadoc1981 on October 17, 2017, 01:57:05 am
I don't believe in giving anyone free money.  But if someone can convince a sucker to give up their cash for nothing more power to them.
Title: Re: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: OldSchmoe67 on October 17, 2017, 06:16:04 pm
I don't believe in giving anyone free money.  But if someone can convince a sucker to give up their cash for nothing more power to them.

Yes. Anyone confusing this with rational economics doesn't understand what we have here, and have no idea how lucky we are to have it. Esoteric markets of high desirability are rare and are known to create exotic economic demands. We're not hiring house painters, we're hiring unicorns. 
Title: Re: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: Lift_seeker on November 07, 2017, 11:46:10 am
Money make the world go round. Let me tell you about a guy in Inst@gram: He is 75+ years old and poses often in front of his luxury home and big sport cars. He has tons of ifbb pros and other muscular woman following him. Under the posts he has comments like "hey hun, how about a gift for Christmas? Here is my Amazon wish list" or "darling, can you help my family here is my gofundme  :heart: " and he is like "ohh yes of course". Many of those woman ask him for "dates" in the comments.

2 days ago he posted a picture of his naked flabby ass, i was smiling but than i checked the comments, a well known pro fbb wrote "yummy yummy  :clap: " A bikini model with 800000 followers wrote: "hmmm wanna get my hands on those glorious glutes" Other girl "turn around please"

Do they take advantage that this guy spends a lot of his money on muscular girls, or are they interested in the person? You choose.
Title: Re: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: OldSchmoe67 on November 07, 2017, 07:21:56 pm
Who cares? This guy has, what, 10-15 yrs. left? If he's enjoying the rest of his life as much, or more, than other seniors (or anyone, really,) while helping to support some of the rarest and most desirable women on earth, it's a good thing, of course. Would it be so controversial if the women were just a houseful of skinny playmates?
Title: Re: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: 87fg on November 08, 2017, 12:06:13 am
Money make the world go round. Let me tell you about a guy in Inst@gram: He is 75+ years old and poses often in front of his luxury home and big sport cars. He has tons of ifbb pros and other muscular woman following him. Under the posts he has comments like "hey hun, how about a gift for Christmas? Here is my Amazon wish list" or "darling, can you help my family here is my gofundme  :heart: " and he is like "ohh yes of course". Many of those woman ask him for "dates" in the comments.

2 days ago he posted a picture of his naked flabby ass, i was smiling but than i checked the comments, a well known pro fbb wrote "yummy yummy  :clap: " A bikini model with 800000 followers wrote: "hmmm wanna get my hands on those glorious glutes" Other girl "turn around please"

Do they take advantage that this guy spends a lot of his money on muscular girls, or are they interested in the person? You choose.


That's woman's nature use until there is nothing left. they do not care about the person they just care about what they can gain. I think all the good women have either been killed off or are hiding. The only ones we have now are just ones looking for the richest man or the one with the most status. That explains why many elements of society are just distorted. People have a bizarre idea about what is love. People cannot hold stable relationships or marriages anymore.
Title: Re: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: OldSchmoe67 on November 08, 2017, 10:11:06 am
"I think all the good women have either been killed off or are hiding."

No reasonable person is ever going to believe someone reached this conclusion by thinking.

Title: Re: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: Jaybee on November 08, 2017, 10:37:47 am

That's woman's nature use until there is nothing left. they do not care about the person they just care about what they can gain. I think all the good women have either been killed off or are hiding. The only ones we have now are just ones looking for the richest man or the one with the most status. That explains why many elements of society are just distorted. People have a bizarre idea about what is love. People cannot hold stable relationships or marriages anymore.

I know how you feel but good women DO exist - they're not hiding, they are just keeping quiet.  Sadly in the West - and spreading outwards fast - 3rd Feminism has front stage, and it simply isn't vogue any more to "Be a great girlfriend/wife".  Our education systems have been largely infiltrated by harder-core feminists , so a lot of young women grow up thinking their mothers were held back from voting/careers, and reach womanhood looking at TODAY'S men, especially older ones, as either the oppressors or cash-cows.  Our media - news, and social - too have been largely taken over too.  They twist female empowerment into something we men give, but in reality it is something women WORK towards, with every day at the office, ever rep lifted, every lesson taken.

There still exist plenty of women, of all ages, who don't buy into the hype, who have good relations with their fathers, brothers etc.  Hard working conscientious women.  Chances are you are mixing with the wrong crowds to find them.  Practice sniffing out the entitlement princesses, the ones who snort with disgust when asked about their jobs (if any), who ask you in depth about your own within the first 2 minutes of a convo.  Learn to sort the wheat from the chaff, your life will be much happier.

:)
Title: Re: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: 87fg on November 11, 2017, 02:26:30 am
"I think all the good women have either been killed off or are hiding."

No reasonable person is ever going to believe someone reached this conclusion by thinking.

If you just look around there are women that will not even talk to you unless you have some form of status. Being a "nice guy" does not get you anywhere. This explains why women will tolerate abusive men so long as they have money or power. They can get status automatically without effort or diligence. The nice or clam women are either too shy or lack the confidence to pursue the men they like. There really is no point in being nervous or scared about approaching someone. Rejection is just a part or life and some people that is all they experience. The whole situation is so frustrating. Why can't women approach men if we are living in such a "liberated age" ? The answer is simple it takes less effort. If women were placed in the same situation as men, they would be complaining even more than they do on a regular basis. I honestly see why some just choose to live their life alone. 
Title: Re: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: Polite Society on November 14, 2017, 01:47:56 pm
Money make the world go round. Let me tell you about a guy in Inst@gram: He is 75+ years old and poses often in front of his luxury home and big sport cars. He has tons of ifbb pros and other muscular woman following him. Under the posts he has comments like "hey hun, how about a gift for Christmas? Here is my Amazon wish list" or "darling, can you help my family here is my gofundme  :heart: " and he is like "ohh yes of course". Many of those woman ask him for "dates" in the comments.

2 days ago he posted a picture of his naked flabby ass, i was smiling but than i checked the comments, a well known pro fbb wrote "yummy yummy  :clap: " A bikini model with 800000 followers wrote: "hmmm wanna get my hands on those glorious glutes" Other girl "turn around please"

Do they take advantage that this guy spends a lot of his money on muscular girls, or are they interested in the person? You choose.


    Each to their own.  I hope he gets to include strings being attached to anything he gives them financially and that he's getting plenty.  Fair play to him.
Title: Re: Are some women taking advantage of us?
Post by: knufflschmoe on November 20, 2017, 04:33:05 pm
As it is in life some  People are honest,and worth to be Trusted others are not ......

Thats a fact also what  concerns Contact with strong  Women in Session and elsewhere

So it s always a Risk and an adventure to Deal with unknown People,Isnt, it !?