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Private Sessions => Talking about sessionettes => Topic started by: 38bergrod on January 20, 2010, 04:40:49 pm
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Hi guys,
Amber Black is coming to my area, and I am thinking of having a session with her. Would like to have some info before booking. She seems big and strong. I am looking for light wrestling and lifts & carries. If you had a session with her, please provide some info. Also, does she give HJs? Thanks!
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I actually saw her a long time ago. I was her first TER review and at the time I saw her, she was new to this.
I expect that she has matured and improved since then.
About the biggest downside is that she upselled me on the session. Other than Heather Fine, she was one of the few
that I saw that had different prices depending on nudity, release ect...
Anyway, once I settled on things and saw her, I did have fun with her.
She is very, very attractive but not nearly as muscular as most of the ladies on this site. I doubt that she could do a lift
and carry. The role play was good and so was the wrestling, not great though. A nice lady but not that sensual.
I remember I had a tough time popping.
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Hello everyone.
I'm looking to do a mixed wrestling session. I've never done one before, but i've been interested in what seems like forever. I've always liked strong women.
I emailed Amber Black, and she is coming soon to my city, Indianapolis.
There are not many opportunities it seems for mixed wrestling in Indianapolis. I have to wait for someone to do a tour.
Amber Black charges $300 for an hour. I'm just wondering would this be worth it? I'm very curious about it, but she isn't exactly my type. I do like women with strong powerful legs, and she looks like she has those. However, I like the gymnastics body types...5'0 - 5'5 100-120, in a gymnastic body. Amber is 5'11 185 pounds.
I've tried craigslist but i've gotten little feedback. Women email me, but when I give more details they back out.
Any suggestions on how I can have more mixed wrestling sessions/scissor sessions more often? Should I take Amber Black on her offer? Like I said, there doesn't seem to be many opportunities in Indianapolis for this.
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I'd also like to add about the craigslist...I've only had a few repond to the ads, but they seem to want to bring 2 or 3 friends and what not.
I really don't want an audience when doing this lol...I prefer private.
How would you guys word an ad on craigslist or would you even go there?
BTW, I have no female friends or girlfriend to ask for this.
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there is a Ms. Melissa on wb270- who occassionally visits Indianopolis- haven't seen her- Also, you might want to take a road trip to Columbus for the Arnold or Vegas for the Miss O, or Atlanta for Nationals or some othe big show where you will have plenty of wrestlers to choose from- Lastly, personally I would stay away from craig's list b/c some may be legit there are a lot of phonies on that site
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Yeah, that craigslist thing was a last ditch effort.
I really don't have the funds to be traveling like that. Especially to cities where I don't know anyone. It seems like alot to go through for a 1 or 2 hour session.
I saw the Ms. Melissa on wb270 as well. Can't seem to find a picture. She's 5'3 160. Must be some type of bodybuilder. Those types usually have strong features in their face. I'll email though for a picture first.
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I've always used wb270.com and was unaware that craigslist was an option! What category does mixed wrestling fall under?
I hope you enjoy your session and let us know how it went.
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I've always used wb270.com and was unaware that craigslist was an option! What category does mixed wrestling fall under?
I hope you enjoy your session and let us know how it went.
I put it on platonic relationships lol.
I don't know if i'm doing the session yet. What are your thoughts on Amber Black? I really want a gymnastics type but I don't have many options.
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I've always used wb270.com and was unaware that craigslist was an option! What category does mixed wrestling fall under?
I hope you enjoy your session and let us know how it went.
I put it on platonic relationships lol.
I don't know if i'm doing the session yet. What are your thoughts on Amber Black? I really want a gymnastics type but I don't have many options.
The only sessions I've ever had were with Brenda Raganot. I was going to go with Alina Popa but based on some of the reviews here I decided to just save my $$ for another FBB. Either that or just stick with Brenda. She's super nice.
Gabrielle Hames retired and that just sucks! >:(
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Some don't advertise their trips but have a list of guys they email about their travel. If you want to see someone ask her if shes coming to your area and she can inform youwith plans of coming or driving through. Pandora from Chicago used to be a gymnast. http://wb270.com/ind/pandoraIL.htm. What kind of responses and people do you get from craigslist? Do they say why they want to bring friends?
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Strictly platonic is not where you post to get your wrestling fetish satisfied. You should email the women in adult services or post your ad in Casual Encounters or Miscellaneous Romance. Or you can put a general inquiry on Rants and Raves and see if anyone there knows anyone.
As to why a woman would want to bring friends, isn't that kind of obvious?
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Right haha strictly platoinic. I understand bringing friends for protection but who has 3 friends willing to watch? It sounded like a scam.
To skooby, someone said ms melissa is Isabel Turell.
http://saradas.org/index.php?topic=78096.msg349854.html#msg349854
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My first session was with Amber and I heard she improved a lot since then (6 years ago)
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Some don't advertise their trips but have a list of guys they email about their travel. If you want to see someone ask her if shes coming to your area and she can inform youwith plans of coming or driving through. Pandora from Chicago used to be a gymnast. http://wb270.com/ind/pandoraIL.htm. What kind of responses and people do you get from craigslist? Do they say why they want to bring friends?
They keep saying they want to bring an escort along. I want this to be a private matter. I don't want an audience.
Strictly platonic is not where you post to get your wrestling fetish satisfied. You should email the women in adult services or post your ad in Casual Encounters or Miscellaneous Romance. Or you can put a general inquiry on Rants and Raves and see if anyone there knows anyone.
As to why a woman would want to bring friends, isn't that kind of obvious?
I know why they want to bring them...for safety reasons. I think the craigslist thing was a bad idea. I'm sure some of them were legit, but after I gave details they backed out.
I don't want to post the ads in adult cuz you have to pay for those, plus I don't think they'll be into it. I want a true next door type with a gymnastics body. Or a swimmers body...any sport that makes her legs strong lol. I've noticed some of them have done some sort of martial arts too.
My first session was with Amber and I heard she improved a lot since then (6 years ago)
Right now i'm leaning towards doing the session even though at first glance she isn't exactly what i'm looking for. I just want to get my first experience under my belt.
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Strictly platonic is not where you post to get your wrestling fetish satisfied. You should email the women in adult services or post your ad in Casual Encounters or Miscellaneous Romance. Or you can put a general inquiry on Rants and Raves and see if anyone there knows anyone.
As to why a woman would want to bring friends, isn't that kind of obvious?
I know why they want to bring them...for safety reasons. I think the craigslist thing was a bad idea. I'm sure some of them were legit, but after I gave details they backed out.
I don't want to post the ads in adult cuz you have to pay for those, plus I don't think they'll be into it. I want a true next door type with a gymnastics body. Or a swimmers body...any sport that makes her legs strong lol. I've noticed some of them have done some sort of martial arts too.
If you don't want to pay for it, then it's too damn bad, because that's what you're going to have to do.
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If Amber isn't the body type that you are looking for, then you should wait.
I saw her a long time ago and I think that she looked great. Her few downsides
is that she upsells, more for topless, nudity, hand release ect...
Nice woman.
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If Amber isn't the body type that you are looking for, then you should wait.
I saw her a long time ago and I think that she looked great. Her few downsides
is that she upsells, more for topless, nudity, hand release ect...
Nice woman.
I think i'm going to go ahead and do a session with her. Just to get my first session under my belt.
Once again, Indianapolis doesn't have alot of options so I gotta take what I can get I guess. If I wait it could be next year lol.
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You should email the women in adult services
I've been doing this...no luck. Most are all fakes anyway and the ones that are doing even know what a scissor hold is. Plus the pics they have up(if they are even real), their legs look weak.
I turned down the chance to have a session with Amber Black, cuz i'm just not that into her body type. On second thought though maybe I should've done it cuz the chances here in Indianapolis are slim to none.
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^^If not gymnastic type then at least have some muscle definition in the legs...but still a feminine looking face.
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there is a Ms. Melissa on wb270- who occassionally visits Indianopolis- haven't seen her- Also, you might want to take a road trip to Columbus for the Arnold or Vegas for the Miss O, or Atlanta for Nationals or some othe big show where you will have plenty of wrestlers to choose from- Lastly, personally I would stay away from craig's list b/c some may be legit there are a lot of phonies on that site
what section on craigslist would you be looking for fbb? ta
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I have been seriously considering setting up a beatdown session with Amber Black sometime next week. I was going to request her "WORST" beating except no punching to the face. I know there are some older reviwes on WB's site, I'm just wondering if anyone has been beaten by her recently and how good was the session. Was she strong, did she REALLY hit hard, did she have the right attitude.
Thanks in advance for any responses.
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Can't say too much from personal experience - never met the girl - but another mixed wrestling reviews on yahoo groups says she's fantastic. You want her to beat the $hit outta you, she'll beat the $hit outta you.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mixedwrestlingsessionsreviews/
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I was considering doing one of these severa beatdowns with Amber but was wondering what it was like. Can she pummel like Sondra Faas. She doesn't look that strong, that's why I was wondering. Anyone ever attempt the severe beatdown???
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Surely you can work out a mechanism/calculation/performance rating for rewarding her according to the length/depth of the beating you suffer or the amount you cum with her?
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In fact I e-mailed here just to ask and she says she will knock you out. Man, I'd love to meet this girl.
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As long as she agrees not to punch in the face or the groin, she would have NO SHOT at knocking me out. I have been scissored by some of the biggest bodybuilding thighs out there so I'm sure I can withstand her normal girl looking legs.
It would be cool though for her to put me against the wall and beat me like a heavy bag.....
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Granted I sessioned with her a few yearsvago, but it was very mediocre . First, you certainly wouldn't call her a bodybuilder; second the session in NYC was held in a shabby apartment, and 3rd she cut the session short.
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You can do better.....clock watcher, not very strong and seems disinterested in the session.....
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Too bad that she became a clock watcher. Most of these ladies get better. It looks like Amber got worse.
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Saw Amber Black. She called me before coming to the room asking if she could bring a friend to watch. I declined, and we had an ok session and got along fine - but it was not one of the great sessions. Worse still, some guy (probably the friend) comes beating on my door the next day wanting to talk to me. I didn't answer and he eventually went away.
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I had my first session with Amber Black when she had just gotten into the scene and done a video with MWU. I believe she had gotten into the scene because of her friend Kyla (wish I would have met her), I'd like to add that Amber looked like she did in her first video with Scissorvixens (she shot that a few months after we met). I won't go into a lot of details about the session because it really wasn't anything spectacular since we were both green in this area.
I find it impressive that she has improved in some ways according to recent reviews (especially in the scissor department).
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Interesting...i've passed on her since reviews weren't so great.
Some say she cuts the session short, another say she upsells, another say some guy came knocking at their door once.
Seems like she's gotten worse from the latest reviews on here.
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To be honest that doesn't surprise me
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Has anyone recently had a session with her?
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I did. It wasn't that great. I would save your time and money.
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I've sessioned with Amber twice in the last 7 months. I may not be looking for the same thing as other folks, but I've had a wonderful time with her both instances. She is much more attractive in person than her photos, ridiculously strong, and more-than-just-playfully dominant in personality. Oh...she also punches like a friggin' freight train (for those of you who are into that)! I found myself needing breaks more often than her...to the point where, at one point, I even told her to go ahead and check her phone at one point because I needed a breather so badly.
She's gotten some bad reviews here and I don't understand why. I've had nothing but wonderful experiences with her. I will note though, that I was not after any of the "extras" that many people here seem to be looking for. So I can't comment on that at all...
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Thanosian,
It seems you like the punching thing. Hows her wrestling ability?
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Skooby,
I like most aspects of the fetish wrestling industry but, yes, my favorite is belly-punching. Definitely my biggest "thing"...and ALL of my sessions have emphasized that.
In regards to Amber's wrestling ability, I can't comment much on that since it was not really part of either session. We did a little 'fun' wrestling for a few minutes and she is obviously strong but my time with her was nearly exclusively punching (and gasping for me). We did a few scissors and I can tell you that it didn't take much of her power to make me feel like she could pop my head clean off my shoulders. Brutal pressure there. I'm afraid that's not going to be news to you though...I imagine you already knew that she's a big strong gal with big strong legs. ;)
If you are just interested in wrestling ability, I'd be happy to describe the ladies I have done some wrestling with -- just shoot me a private/direct message and I'd be happy to give you feedback.
Later, buddy.
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Legs are strong as hell.
A little bit of a Muffin top.
Clock watcher.
Seems like a nice person. Good attitude when wrestling.
She had her dogs with her. I'm not fond of wrestling where dogs just laid at.
Not as skilled as Julie but skilled enough. She kicked my ass.
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has anyone sessioned with amber black? I would love to get a good review, thanks very much!
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I have.
She's strong...and she's not afraid to attack you. Legs are powerful, she could've broken my ribs if she wanted. Tall girl. I'm 5'9 and she was clearly a good 6'0. Pretty...even though she has a little muffin top now.
The session was okay...I just didn't like her having her dogs with her. The dogs weren't in the way but they could've been all over things before. Didn't want to wrestle where dogs just walked/laid.
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Anyone here seen her? she's coming to my area soon and was considering her.
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I had a scissors and foot worship session with Amber last year. She is truly beautiful girl.
Although she is not a body builder, she is a strong amazon. She is fun to talk to and not a clock watcher
Don’t expect any extras. She will not do nude sessions or anything sexual.
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She was absolutely phenominal. She was not the best wrestler or the biggest. What she had was a true meannes, aggresion and desire to make sure I was hurt and scared of her. I love it. She has me sit down and pounced on me and pinned me and hit me. I had bruised ribs and a bruised chest for a week and half afterwards. When I tapped, she continued to pin and smother me and look down at me with that pretty face and those eyes that read death. I thought she would kill me then she had me touch her tits and muscle and let me get air then smothered me more then gave me mercy and scissored as strong as any session wrestler i ever saw. I would definately recommend her if you want to get truly dominated.
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Just booked with her for next week!
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Had a great session with Amber last week. Her legs are incredibly strong. I could not move when she had them wrapped around me, and she was able to put me to sleep with them. She also accommodated my wish to worship her legs in stockings and high heels! The only downside to the session was that she was booked with back to back sessions, so time was tight.
-Weak4legs
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I serach for some Amber Black pictures on the internet and then i found this shit
http://amberblack21.blogspot.com/
The story was afwull, such a lie from some guy, who doen't even had his real name. I really don't think that Amber is some fraudster, i spoke with some people who had many sessions with her and all the say that she is very nice and correct.
So what I think this is a work of some chic who was beaten very good by Amber and now want's to destroy her bussines.
What do you guys think, anyone knows something more?
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I met Amber a few years ago for a session. Really can´t say anything bad about her. She was late for the session, but after the session she drove me to the train station so that I wont miss my train...
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I had read many reviews about her and everbody says only the best.
I'm now probably too young but in some years would like very much to have a semi-competetive match with her and some trampling session, so that's the reason I asked. In my opinion, owner of that site is some gay who hate woman :D
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I met Amber a few years ago for a session. Really can´t say anything bad about her. She was late for the session, but after the session she drove me to the train station so that I wont miss my train...
The weird thing about Amber Black is if you do a Google search on her you will find some extremely hot pictures of a blond fitness model and she is NOT the wrestler Amber Black. The model does not have a large tatoo. I guess they are just two different women with the same name.
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No man I didn't write that blog, I just wonder what you guys think about her. Because some day I would like to have a session with her.So don't want be ripped of. But really strange on google her pics are very sexy. Hmm.
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And after all, why would she return money to him. It's obviously that he sent money without any agreement. She is right he is naive. Problem solved for me.
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And after all, why would she return money to him. It's obviously that he sent money without any agreement. She is right he is naive. Problem solved for me.
Here I cant agree with you. If he sends money for a service (although it´s strange if he sents money before making an agreement) she either has to deliver that service or return the money (unless he previously quoted that it would be a gift). It´s not a question if he is naive or not, no service provided no money due.
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I don't know about the scam issue with Amber.
But if you're looking for a semicompetitive match or anything close, she is not the wrestler for you. She is into one sided domination; I really wouldn't even call it wrestling. She generally just applies holds on you.
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Hmm. Who knows, he is the first that lost his money. And thanks for advice about sesison with her.
I would remeber that.
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I don't know about the scam issue with Amber.
But if you're looking for a semicompetitive match or anything close, she is not the wrestler for you. She is into one sided domination; I really wouldn't even call it wrestling. She generally just applies holds on you.
I appreciate this post too as I was thinking about scheduling a session with her and was looking for semi competitive/arm wrestling. Thank you for this information
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But if you're looking for a semicompetitive match or anything close, she is not the wrestler for you. She is into one sided domination; I really wouldn't even call it wrestling. She generally just applies holds on you.
Well it depends on how strong you are, when I met her a few years ago, I was trying my best to fight back but couldn´t resist her strentgh. I am not very trained, so I was an easier victim than others. I can´t judge how far she goes fighting if the guy is (much) stronger than herself.
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Perhaps she was more into wrestling a few years back - my experience was just in December and I wasn't putting up much resistance.
I actually asked her what she thought about competitive and semi competitive matches in general with both men and women after the session was over and she said that she had absolutely no interest.
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I actually asked her what she thought about competitive and semi competitive matches in general with both men and women after the session was over and she said that she had absolutely no interest.
Well I can understand that she doesn´t want to go ´too far´ in competetive fighting. She makes a living out of the sessions, and just cant afford to get hurt badly.
Knowing this of course means that she is not the right choice for people looking for a really competetive fight.
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I've sessioned twice with Amber with no issues.
The guy claiming that she scammed him included copies of the email traffic between them which you can read. Here's a synopsis: He asked if she could do a custom video of her crushing insects. She responds with an email saying she can do a ten minute custom video for two hundred dollars. There are a couple of exchanges about details of the video in which the guy requests snails be crushed. Then there's an email from Amber saying, "In New Mexico we don't have garden snails because it's so dry here. I will have to buy them at the store." The guy responds with an email about purchasing the snails and at this point she responds, "I find that I am not comfortable smashing snails." Then there's a series of emails where he asks for his money back and she refuses claiming they never had an agreement. In those emails she says, "I tried to give the real snails a thought but I cannot."
I appears to me that they did have an agreement and she changed her mind. I'm not sure at what point he sent the money, but she had plenty of opportunity to object to what he was asking for and she didn't. While I find the killing of animals to for this purpose repugnant, that's not justification for keeping the money.
While I think Amber is liable here, this has nothing to do with her session business unless you're showing up to her hotel room with a basket full of critters. I met Amber for the first time when she had just started in the business, and I tend to read reviews of women I've seen, so I've got a good idea of what her history has been. She has an excellent track record as a professional and I don't think that anybody considering a session with her needs to worry about this.
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While I think she probably should have returned the guy's money (assuming the post is even real), I didn't see anything that would prevent me from seeing her. In fact, I would be less inclined to see her if she had gone through with the crushing. It's kind of funny that she told him she already donated the money to support abused animals. What she really seems to be saying is "I thought about crushing snails but just couldn't bring myself to do it. I realized that someone like you who wants to film such activity is an idiot, so I decided to actively support a cause that combats the actions of assholes like you."
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And if you believe that she donated that money to charity........... :D :laugh:
:tongue:
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While I think she probably should have returned the guy's money (assuming the post is even real), I didn't see anything that would prevent me from seeing her. In fact, I would be less inclined to see her if she had gone through with the crushing. It's kind of funny that she told him she already donated the money to support abused animals. What she really seems to be saying is "I thought about crushing snails but just couldn't bring myself to do it. I realized that someone like you who wants to film such activity is an idiot, so I decided to actively support a cause that combats the actions of assholes like you."
This is actually the same thing i think, she really humiliated him with that part. On the first one, I thought that she would never do that, and one guy on this thread said that she has bring him to the station!
But now i can think what relly happen; she finds out that guy is a little bit of weird and probably never did something like that (even he said that she find on some forum that she does) and then when he said to her that is in UK, she decided to make a fool from him.
Poor guy, not that he send her 200 $ but 250 $. But at least she gave the money for animals that are in damage from guy strange guy like him, she really humbled and make a fool from him.
Now, about wrestling session, my goal is some day to meet Figure Power, she seems like one of the strongest at this moment. But I'm not the match for her right now and she is also known for her "deposit refunding" so, I was thinking about some one sided domination wrestling with Amber Black just to see how much pain can I take now, and she looks very good for me, even she is a little bit heavier.
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she anounced on WB270 that she will come to Uk in March. I sent her an e-mail one week ago to aarnage a session with her, but did not get an answer. ???
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she anounced on WB270 that she will come to Uk in March. I sent her an e-mail one week ago to aarnage a session with her, but did not get an answer. ???
Sorry for the typing-mistakes.
what a shit that it is not possible to edit his own postings here.
Here the correct sentence:
she announced on WB270 that she will come to UK in March. I sent her an e-mail one week ago to arrange a session with her, but did not get an answer. ???
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I saw Amber Black many years ago when she was just starting out. I found her to be very attractive with nice long legs and a great rack.
I had a nice time with her. The only downside was that she was very much into the money and wanted to negotiate the price more than most.
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Recently booked session while Amber on tour for semi-competitive wrestling. Luckily, at last moment inquired about "her definition" of semi-competitive. Her reply ... "I use 100% of my strength and you use 50%." First, thought it was a joke because all she knew about me was older, new to sessions, nothing more. One reason contacted her because her site stated she's stronger than most males. Couldn't cancel fast enough. Ironically, following sessions with big and small females ... all competitive, all fun, no one got hurt (permanently ... kiddin).
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While I think she probably should have returned the guy's money (assuming the post is even real), I didn't see anything that would prevent me from seeing her. In fact, I would be less inclined to see her if she had gone through with the crushing. It's kind of funny that she told him she already donated the money to support abused animals. What she really seems to be saying is "I thought about crushing snails but just couldn't bring myself to do it. I realized that someone like you who wants to film such activity is an idiot, so I decided to actively support a cause that combats the actions of assholes like you."
Let me assure you the post is real. I wrote it! It's surprising how many of you think I would go to these lengths of creating a blog site making up a story like this. It's also surprising how many of you have been brainwashed by the "Amber Fan Club" claiming I sent money without an agreement.
If anyone is a member of Amber's yahoo group, it is on the record that she sent an email to the entire group that she makes insect crushing videos for $200. Check your mail archive for this email sent at the date specified.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-VSkfGrUkqB0/UIh25IH9qTI/AAAAAAAAAAw/b3__BgCmD-0/s1600/email+1.png
Secondly, some of you begrudge me for asking for an insect crushing video. What are we living back in the 60's where we judge other peoples fantasies and do you all work for PETA? They are insects, snails for god sake! How many of you Americans hunt deer or step on a spider in the home. For christ sake!
Let me be clear, this was a calculated scam by Amber. She deliberately stalled, not replying to emails waiting 6 weeks, the period paypal will investigate fraud, before she told me she wouldn't make the video. She knows I don't live in the US and she is ripping off foreign citizens thinking she can get away with it without being called out. I know others that have been scammed who simply don't have the basic skills to create a blog site and ensure it gets good search results on Google. Anyone who defends her actions is a bigot and / or a fool. Damn - you guys should be thanking me for warning you that she is a scammer and a crack addict. Read the damn blog and the links I provided.
I would be weary of sending deposits for wrestling sessions too. She has been known to be a no-show. Why hasn't she been called out yet? Because Ron W (i won't say his full name), who I believe runs wb270, is madly in love with her and gets free sessions. The wb270 admin whoever he is admits he doesn't pay for sessions.
Amber has personally emailed me since and offered to return half the money to remove the blog. That was before Christmas. I'm still waiting!!!
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And if you believe that she donated that money to charity........... :D :laugh:
:tongue:
I'm glad the moderators are tuned in. ;)
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Ron Weberman does not run the wb270 site, but he does suck up to Amber Black.
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Ron Weberman does not run the wb270 site, but he does suck up to Amber Black.
I wasn't sure. They seem to talk the same. Ron admitted himself he doesn't pay for sessions, so you can appreciate his motives to try and have his cronies discredit me. All the facts are there in the emails though. Black and while for all to see.
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And if you believe that she donated that money to charity........... :D :laugh:
:tongue:
I had no idea that snails were animals until I read this thread. This has been very educational.
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Neither did I. I think I will go out and crush a couple of snails in solidarity.
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Neither did I. I think I will go out and crush a couple of snails in solidarity.
I was trying to think of something that was less erotic then stepping on snails, but I'm stumped.
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Ron Weberman does not run the wb270 site, but he does suck up to Amber Black.
I'm not RW and I do run the wb270 site. And I don't suck up to Amber Black, who is quite pretty, but is in my experience something of a pain to deal with, and not the brightest star in the sky.
Still, my sympathies are with Amber here, and I'm glad she won't crush snails so somebody can get his rocks off watching a pretty girl crush small animals. And in fact there is a US Federal Law that "makes it a crime to sell or distribute videos showing animals being intentionally crushed, burned, drowned, suffocated, impaled, or otherwise subjected to serious bodily injury. It exempts depictions of veterinary and husbandry practices, the slaughter of animals for food, as well as depictions of hunting, trapping or fishing." http://aldf.org/article.php?id=1546 This law was passed nearly unanimously by both the Senate and House, supported by Republicans and Democrats alike, and immediately signed into law by the President on Dec. 10, 2010. It replaces a much broader law that was overturned by the Supreme Court as too broad, in a case that involved a documentary on Pit Bulls that showed scenes of dogfights filmed in Japan, where dogfighting is legal.
At any rate I'm not going to use the leverage I have (i.e. threaten to kick Amber off wb270.com) to help this guy get his money back. Like most of us, including the Congress and President, I think his fetish is a disgusting perversion. And at any rate, I run wb270.com for the purpose of connecting men with women who will do wrestling, martial arts, boxing and similar kinds of sessions with men. I let women advertise other services, but won't add women who don't do some kind of wrestling, MA, boxing and the like. I don't charge anything for listings, and the site is an effective place for women to advertise, so I have to limit who I will list or I'd have no time to make a living or even sleep.
I wouldn't let anybody advertise to do crush videos on wb270.com, even if it weren't illegal: it's patently disgusting. And I won't get involved in disputes involving much of anything other than wrestling, boxing or MA sessions with a man. If you are a photographer or a "producer" and use wb270.com to find actors or models and have a problem with them, don't complain to me, I don't care. If you pay a girl on my list to do any kind of video for you and she doesn't deliver, don't complain to me, I don't much care, although I might remove anything from her profile that offers to make or sell video or do video sessions. If you have a problem with a girl involving crush videos (or anything else that is illegal) don't complain to me.
If you have a serious problem with a girl involving a wrestling session, such as taking a deposit and then refusing to do the session as agreed or return the deposit, then I may be able to help you, if you can really prove the facts of the case to me or if the woman does not contest them. If it's serious enough I'll try and investigate and if I can reach a clear decision about who is right and who is wrong (which is often very hard to do - I'm not the FBI), then I may either suggest to the girl that I think it would be wise to do something (which sometimes has an effect) or tell her to refund the money or I'll remover her from the list. If I make a threat, I will carry it out. There are women who I see complaints about on SARADAS who used to be on wb270.com and are no longer listed there, for that reason.
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Neither did I. I think I will go out and crush a couple of snails in solidarity.
I don't think anybody on this site has a problem with not stepping on snails, but we do have a problem with someone who agrees to do it and then steals a deposit. You are basically saying that you have no problem with stealing a deposit after a wrestler says she will do something. She is a crook and should give the deposit back.
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Neither did I. I think I will go out and crush a couple of snails in solidarity.
I don't think anybody on this site has a problem with not stepping on snails, but we do have a problem with someone who agrees to do it and then steals a deposit. You are basically saying that you have no problem with stealing a deposit after a wrestler says she will do something. She is a crook and should give the deposit back.
Thank you. :singing:
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Either way, at least 15 people have contacted me saying they will not book a session with her now after previously planning to do so. So not only does Amber lose out on those session funds, but she will continue to lose business as long as my blog is up and any repeat business.
If she thinks what she has done is good business practice or ethical to capitalize on a quick $250.00 then she is sadly mistaken.
The sooner she corrects this wrong, the sooner she can go back to being an honorable wrestler.
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Ron Weberman does not run the wb270 site, but he does suck up to Amber Black.
I'm not RW and I do run the wb270 site. And I don't suck up to Amber Black, who is quite pretty, but is in my experience something of a pain to deal with, and not the brightest star in the sky.
Still, my sympathies are with Amber here, and I'm glad she won't crush snails so somebody can get his rocks off watching a pretty girl crush small animals. And in fact there is a US Federal Law that "makes it a crime to sell or distribute videos showing animals being intentionally crushed, burned, drowned, suffocated, impaled, or otherwise subjected to serious bodily injury. It exempts depictions of veterinary and husbandry practices, the slaughter of animals for food, as well as depictions of hunting, trapping or fishing." http://aldf.org/article.php?id=1546 This law was passed nearly unanimously by both the Senate and House, supported by Republicans and Democrats alike, and immediately signed into law by the President on Dec. 10, 2010. It replaces a much broader law that was overturned by the Supreme Court as too broad, in a case that involved a documentary on Pit Bulls that showed scenes of dogfights filmed in Japan, where dogfighting is legal.
At any rate I'm not going to use the leverage I have (i.e. threaten to kick Amber off wb270.com) to help this guy get his money back. Like most of us, including the Congress and President, I think his fetish is a disgusting perversion. And at any rate, I run wb270.com for the purpose of connecting men with women who will do wrestling, martial arts, boxing and similar kinds of sessions with men. I let women advertise other services, but won't add women who don't do some kind of wrestling, MA, boxing and the like. I don't charge anything for listings, and the site is an effective place for women to advertise, so I have to limit who I will list or I'd have no time to make a living or even sleep.
I wouldn't let anybody advertise to do crush videos on wb270.com, even if it weren't illegal: it's patently disgusting. And I won't get involved in disputes involving much of anything other than wrestling, boxing or MA sessions with a man. If you are a photographer or a "producer" and use wb270.com to find actors or models and have a problem with them, don't complain to me, I don't care. If you pay a girl on my list to do any kind of video for you and she doesn't deliver, don't complain to me, I don't much care, although I might remove anything from her profile that offers to make or sell video or do video sessions. If you have a problem with a girl involving crush videos (or anything else that is illegal) don't complain to me.
If you have a serious problem with a girl involving a wrestling session, such as taking a deposit and then refusing to do the session as agreed or return the deposit, then I may be able to help you, if you can really prove the facts of the case to me or if the woman does not contest them. If it's serious enough I'll try and investigate and if I can reach a clear decision about who is right and who is wrong (which is often very hard to do - I'm not the FBI), then I may either suggest to the girl that I think it would be wise to do something (which sometimes has an effect) or tell her to refund the money or I'll remover her from the list. If I make a threat, I will carry it out. There are women who I see complaints about on SARADAS who used to be on wb270.com and are no longer listed there, for that reason.
Much respect for you.
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Amberscammer, save your idiotic self righteous indignation for someone more deserving. Bill that runs wb270 does it as a service and he is perfectly capable of deciding what he will and will not have on his site. I had one dealing with him when a women kept a deposit, sent him the info just like he says in his response and he did the appropriate thing and took her off his list.
If you do not like how he does business, then get off your ass and start your on site. If not, then start your on snail crushing-bleeding heart-judgmental jack-ass website.
Thanks Bill for your site.
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I once sent Amber a $100 deposit for a wrestling session well in advance and hurried through an appointment to make it there on time. When I called her, she told me she decided to cancel her entire trip due to an injury. She did not have the professional courtesy to inform me in advance, and I invalidated the cheque which was postdated. (This was several years ago when you could still claim to not have a paypal account.) She may have intended to keep the deposit, but she didn't make the effort to deposit the cheque. Maybe she's disorganized as well as unprofessional.
She canceled on me without notice a second time, saying (when I called her hotel room) that someone else booked her for two hours, and that was more important to her than keeping our appointment.
Do not ask me why I booked another session with her. I guess it's because I 'm a slow learner. When I met her later, it was a huge let down. She put very little effort into it. She is very big, and she used her weight to hold me down. It was semi-competitive (where you are put in holds that you try to escape from).
Regarding snails, many gardeners consider them to be pests, and poison them or crush them. While I don't sympathize with a snail-crushing fetish, I recognize that very few people would sympathize with my enjoyment of being overpowered by a woman. Amber Scammer, please don't take this as validation of your attitude or think in any way that my story about Amber makes me sympathetic to you. I want to warn people that she is unprofessional in her tendency to cancel without notice. But you seem to be very insulting towards others who express horror or revulsion towards your proposed video, calling them wankers or writing about your disgust for gays or gay sex or whatever your point was. I find that to be more reprehensible than your desire to see snails be crushed.
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I think it's fair to say that a lot of us don't condone animal cruelty. As much as I would like to carry on with the crusade, I don't think that's the point.
He contacted her requesting a specific service (doesn't matter how repulsive it is). She reportedly agreed to perform this service and received a deposit towards this. She seemed to be all in until she received the deposit. She then had a change of heart and decided against it. There's no problem with changing your mind. We all do this. The honorable thing to do would be to refund the deposit. Just because Amber refused to perform a service that some of us find revolting doesn't mean that she should site her disgust at the act as an excuse for doing so.
I don't disagree with WBs point that this arguement falls out of the realm of what he promotes on his site. I also don't have a problem with her voicing his opinions on the matter.
I've read multiple threads that go back and forth about how session providers flake on guys after receiving deposits and/or how guys make and fail to meet session appointments leaving ladies to eat the cost of a tour causing them to come out on the negative end of the ledger.
Simple rules we should all follow to make things a lot easier. Honor you transactions. If the deal falls through because of you, do the professional thing. It's plain as day.
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Moe - My apologies also. I only read the first line of your post before I reacted. I'm so use to people judging me and i'm sick of it. We all have different desires. Lets just accept each other for who we are. No snail is more important than a human being.
As for the rest of your post, I agree 100%. Unfortunately women like Amber do the whole fraternity a disservice. She still has the opportunity to pay back the money.
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Wow, needless to say that it stinks to high heaven that she has gone downhill so much since I first saw her many years ago. I had a very nice time with her but again, that was when she was first starting out and she did try to upsell me even back then.
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This whole debate about so many un-returned has always had me wondering if we should ever agree to pay them at all. Of course it limits the women we see but the flip side to that it enough men agree not to pay a deposit, it also limits the places where the women can travel.
I believe that if a women takes a deposit from the man, she has in part, made a commitment that she should live up to. Now I appreciate that the unexpected could happen and if it has, the women should return the deposit immediately. It is the right thing to do. And if she has already spent it, then I'm afraid it's tough luck. After all, when we pay a deposit, we accept that we have made a commitment and if for any reason we have to cancel the session, we expect to lose that deposit.
I do hope that Amber does the right thing, because I have read reviews where people rate her quite highly.
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Yay or nay. I have heard she is very strong and sexy and has a dominant attitude which are pluses. The negatives I have heard are she is sometimes overweight, sometimes does not care, is not into semi- comp, and has been known to be flacky and steal deposits.
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Amber is mediocre. She is big, strong and pretty, but she puts very little effort into her sessions. She is ready to just outweigh you for an hour. This is if she shows up, since the first time I booked her she failed to inform me she wasn't coming, and the second time she booked a two-hour session at the same time as our appointment. Again, cancelling without any notice. I only reached her under her real name through the hotel phone, where she told me she had booked someone else at the same time because it was worth more to her. When I finally met her I was very disappointed. Just felt like being trapped under a wet matress. A cold wet matress.
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Amber is mediocre. She is big, strong and pretty, but she puts very little effort into her sessions. She is ready to just outweigh you for an hour. This is if she shows up, since the first time I booked her she failed to inform me she wasn't coming, and the second time she booked a two-hour session at the same time as our appointment. Again, cancelling without any notice. I only reached her under her real name through the hotel phone, where she told me she had booked someone else at the same time because it was worth more to her. When I finally met her I was very disappointed. Just felt like being trapped under a wet matress. A cold wet matress.
If she is that mediocre, wonder how she has been in the session biz so long? Some clients out there must like here, she does a lot of tours ,and for many years.
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Don't waste your time - for her size she isn't that strong at all - and she just preys on guys who are dumb enough to buy her gifts - she has been around along time because she is barely scraping by and needs to keep doing this; and this is the only thing she can do because she is a convicted felon
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I have seen her twice. What you have heard is correct. For the 1st session it was semi-comp, turned into more fantasy as she is not super strong it a great wrestler. 2nd session was a scissor session 2 years later. Her attitude improved, being more client focused. I think she is best for more dom related sessions, but don't have experience of this.
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Over the many sessions that I have had, I have been ripped off 3 times (Lady Herricane, Layla Lane, and FigurePower). Most other sessions were great but there have been a few duds. Amber is at the top of the "dud" list. It was the only session that I actually left early. She has no wrestling skill, was neither strong nor fit, and was not interested in entertaining.
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Don't waste your time
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Good if you like scissors IMHO