Forum Saradas
Private Sessions => Warnings for Private Sessions & Scammers and Complaints => Topic started by: Polite Society on May 06, 2017, 12:13:29 pm
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So, reluctantly, I need to out Jay Fuchs as someone to avoid.
Jay's charging 800CHf for discrete sessions these days because she's "retired". I will use inverted commas because it is a reach to ever believe Jay. I am sure she tells anyone that.
I did want to see her and we fixed up a meeting in Zurich in December. About three weeks before, she contacts me in November to say she needs help financially. Serious help. Her sponsor "retired" (?) and she was facing eviction from her apartment.
Given that I am not desperately keen to pay for sessions up front, I offered 500 of the 800. Sent it because yeah, the occasional sob story gets to me and it was just paying for the meeting partially early.
Then about a week after, she tells me she needs more. Again...and I admit stupidity in this so it's not being told to make me look stupid....I offer this time to postpone till 2017, and effectively give her the travel costs. She agrees (no shock) and gets a further 500. Albeit she does say 200 is towards next time. I get the "Ever so grateful " email and then silence for the first two months of 2017.
Now, as I see it, the least someone should/could do is be keen to rearrange and offer dates. Nope...the eventual date I do offer is treated like she can't spare a previous hour in her home town. Until I say "Send the money back then" and it magically worked.
As it turned out, I had to back out the date a week before. When I asked for her to select an alternative, silence.
Even quite happily saying send back only 200 of it and we'll agree to move on, nothing via email. But of course plenty of Tweets and other social media to show she's online often enough.
If I was broken by the experience, I wouldn't have written this. You never send what you can't afford at the time and in actuality, I have had a few glamour models take total liberties in the past 6 months with much less financial offers.
Clearly she is not going to do shyt so it's time to broadcast it. Be wary if you are in contact and she's promising to meet up.
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Sorry to hear about the failed endeavours, but thanks for the heads up. I guess I am lucky that I didn't chose that time to reboot my efforts to catch up with her (as I was thinking to do).
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I wonder that JF behaves like that. And Im sorry to hear it.
I think, Polite Society has waited long enough to finally post this sad story on Saradas.
I'd think, that in the meantime, she found a new "Sponsor" (Sugar Daddy?), so the financial pressure is gone again... maybe he doesnt want her to do sessions?!
Or - maybe - she is into the reprehensible financial domination fetish (business), and thinks a "superior goddess" like her deserves all the money, giving back just a "ever so grateful".
Polite Society... you better give away your hard earned money to the Welfare, rather than for Jays Botox Docs...
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think there is a good reson she`s not listed on "regular" sites (like wB270),isn`t it ?
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think there is a good reson she`s not listed on "regular" sites (like wB270),isn`t it ?
Thanks! Yes, she is an excuse for a human
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these swiss people know to get the big cash . a ordered & beautiful country ,but over-expensive in all aspects.
(so for example ,In my case I just should pay a fine of about Eur. 38.- ,because I exceeded the speed-limit at about 1 mile/hour !!!.......know it`s off-topic )
so I expect that also what concerns swiss bodybuilders : (don`t know how much Rachel Ruch or Salome required?!..
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Be wary if you are in contact and she's promising to meet up.
Nice post. It probably does not help me, but well done for a level-headed public service announcement
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Thanks for the heads up. Very unfortunate that she took advantage of your kindness :hellno:
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Been awhile since I've been reading up on this type of stuff. I feel for you my friend as you know of my past issues with one girl and you gave me advise. But thx again. Shoot me an email soon, been awhile since we talked about Hockey
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I don't get why you gave her 14 days before your meeting again 500? Sorry, but a 1000 CHf deposit is just crazy dude, in any way.
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I don't get why you gave her 14 days before your meeting again 500? Sorry, but a 1000 CHf deposit is just crazy dude, in any way.
I didn't tell the story to soiicit views on my level of stupidity. That's long since been obvious.
It didn't leave me penniless, the session was supposed to happen, so it was an advance on paying because she needed it. It all made perfect sense at the time. Different when you get scammed but there you go. Water under the bridge - she's vile and a few more people know about it.
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I don't get why you gave her 14 days before your meeting again 500? Sorry, but a 1000 CHf deposit is just crazy dude, in any way.
I don't get why you want to be lifted in sessions but that's a whole 'nother thread
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I could understand a 100 dollar deposit to insure a meeting, but anyone paying can get screwed over. Just because these women are attractive and beautiful doesn't make them wonderful human beings. Like everyone else, they are still human beings. Some are nice and considerate, some have serious issues or are horrible people. She hustled you for sure...I wouldn't even give a deposit. You make a date, you show up and pay before the session, that is fair. If they want money upfront, forget it then...in the end is it really worth the trouble? I mean, what is point of meeting a bodybuilder if they have insane request like 1000 upfront, or they want the lights off, or they don't show up.
As for a girl not showering before a session, who cares? If you really like a women who exercises, you should be able to deal with their natural oder.
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Stunned to hear this. I met Jay at the Tampa Pro a few years back. Not only was she one BIG, gorgeous female bodybuilder,
she seemed really nice, and she posed for a couple of pictures with me. Hard to believe it is the same woman.
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I could understand a 100 dollar deposit to insure a meeting, but anyone paying can get screwed over. Just because these women are attractive and beautiful doesn't make them wonderful human beings. Like everyone else, they are still human beings. Some are nice and considerate, some have serious issues or are horrible people. She hustled you for sure...I wouldn't even give a deposit. You make a date, you show up and pay before the session, that is fair. If they want money upfront, forget it then...in the end is it really worth the trouble? I mean, what is point of meeting a bodybuilder if they have insane request like 1000 upfront, or they want the lights off, or they don't show up.
As for a girl not showering before a session, who cares? If you really like a women who exercises, you should be able to deal with their natural oder.
I agree with this. Seems to me like an experienced guy like PS should have rubbed one off before making the final decision. That way he wouldn't have had the stored up baby badder clouding his judgement skills. I get $100-$200. But $1000! JF definitely got what she needed out of PS and suffered no real consequences. :-[ This thread isn't gonna affect her one bit.
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This thread isn't gonna affect her one bit.
I'd partially disagree with that. Is it going to impact her legitimate session business? Probably not. I'd still see her. But it is going to curtail her likelihood of pulling a stunt like this again. I tend to be too trusting as well. Not $1000 trusting, but a couple of hundred. After reading this though, I wouldn't advance her more than $100. And I'm sure that the guys here that are more sensitive to the deposit issue aren't going to be willing to give her anything, and won't be shy about letting her know it's because of PS's report.
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Personnaly, I met her several times. I never had a problem with her. She is very polite, honest and accomodating. I would with great pleasure meet again this great and beautiful FBB ! :heart:
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Personnaly, I met her several times. I never had a problem with her. She is very polite, honest and accomodating. I would with great pleasure meet again this great and beautiful FBB ! :heart:
You have great taste in con artist thieves. Congrats! :clap:
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I could understand a 100 dollar deposit to insure a meeting, but anyone paying can get screwed over. Just because these women are attractive and beautiful doesn't make them wonderful human beings. Like everyone else, they are still human beings. Some are nice and considerate, some have serious issues or are horrible people. She hustled you for sure...I wouldn't even give a deposit. You make a date, you show up and pay before the session, that is fair. If they want money upfront, forget it then...in the end is it really worth the trouble? I mean, what is point of meeting a bodybuilder if they have insane request like 1000 upfront, or they want the lights off, or they don't show up.
As for a girl not showering before a session, who cares? If you really like a women who exercises, you should be able to deal with their natural oder.
I agree with this. Seems to me like an experienced guy like PS should have rubbed one off before making the final decision. That way he wouldn't have had the stored up baby badder clouding his judgement skills. I get $100-$200. But $1000! JF definitely got what she needed out of PS and suffered no real consequences. :-[ This thread isn't gonna affect her one bit.
The sort of drivel to be expected from a clown who has never sessioned. Thanks for your wealth of inexperience on such a topic.
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I could understand a 100 dollar deposit to insure a meeting, but anyone paying can get screwed over. Just because these women are attractive and beautiful doesn't make them wonderful human beings. Like everyone else, they are still human beings. Some are nice and considerate, some have serious issues or are horrible people. She hustled you for sure...I wouldn't even give a deposit. You make a date, you show up and pay before the session, that is fair. If they want money upfront, forget it then...in the end is it really worth the trouble? I mean, what is point of meeting a bodybuilder if they have insane request like 1000 upfront, or they want the lights off, or they don't show up.
As for a girl not showering before a session, who cares? If you really like a women who exercises, you should be able to deal with their natural oder.
I agree with this. Seems to me like an experienced guy like PS should have rubbed one off before making the final decision. That way he wouldn't have had the stored up baby badder clouding his judgement skills. I get $100-$200. But $1000! JF definitely got what she needed out of PS and suffered no real consequences. :-[ This thread isn't gonna affect her one bit.
The sort of drivel to be expected from a clown who has never sessioned. Thanks for your wealth of inexperience on such a topic.
The last thing you wanna do is bring up experience. Because here you are the self proclaimed expert on sessions with FBBs and yet JFuchs makes a sucker out of you. We all love muscular women but you're one of those that flat out worships them. If a random FBB pulled her shoe off and stuck her foot out you'd be the first to get on your knees and kiss it. I find it hilarious this happened to you as much you strut around this forum like some smart-ass who believes he's got all the answers. I was at least trying to provide an excuse. Maybe the little head was thinking for the big head. But if that isn't the case, I guess all the experience in the world can't make up for your stupidity.
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HA HA HA! About time POS PoliteSociety gets his ass handed too! Now watch him break down and cry like a little girl!
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I could understand a 100 dollar deposit to insure a meeting, but anyone paying can get screwed over. Just because these women are attractive and beautiful doesn't make them wonderful human beings. Like everyone else, they are still human beings. Some are nice and considerate, some have serious issues or are horrible people. She hustled you for sure...I wouldn't even give a deposit. You make a date, you show up and pay before the session, that is fair. If they want money upfront, forget it then...in the end is it really worth the trouble? I mean, what is point of meeting a bodybuilder if they have insane request like 1000 upfront, or they want the lights off, or they don't show up.
As for a girl not showering before a session, who cares? If you really like a women who exercises, you should be able to deal with their natural oder.
I agree with this. Seems to me like an experienced guy like PS should have rubbed one off before making the final decision. That way he wouldn't have had the stored up baby badder clouding his judgement skills. I get $100-$200. But $1000! JF definitely got what she needed out of PS and suffered no real consequences. :-[ This thread isn't gonna affect her one bit.
The sort of drivel to be expected from a clown who has never sessioned. Thanks for your wealth of inexperience on such a topic.
The last thing you wanna do is bring up experience. Because here you are the self proclaimed expert on sessions with FBBs and yet JFuchs makes a sucker out of you. We all love muscular women but you're one of those that flat out worships them. If a random FBB pulled her shoe off and stuck her foot out you'd be the first to get on your knees and kiss it. I find it hilarious this happened to you as much you strut around this forum like some smart-ass who believes he's got all the answers. I was at least trying to provide an excuse. Maybe the little head was thinking for the big head. But if that isn't the case, I guess all the experience in the world can't make up for your stupidity.
Your Karma's matching your IQ.
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HA HA HA! About time POS PoliteSociety gets his ass handed too! Now watch him break down and cry like a little girl!
If I've offended you Sycamore I truly don't remember. But I'm delighted.
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Great to see there's still life in this 10-month-old thread.
Interesting how in all that time, no-one's ever come up with Jay's side of events to refute a word of this that she's really just a great gal. I take losing $1000 on the chins and you've got others whining because their $50 deposit may or may not be refunded when the general lack of interest in actually doing sessions means a lady can't visit a city she had listed for. Oh calamity!
I've met so many fabulous people through doing sessions. I think 2 were male.
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I could understand a 100 dollar deposit to insure a meeting, but anyone paying can get screwed over. Just because these women are attractive and beautiful doesn't make them wonderful human beings. Like everyone else, they are still human beings. Some are nice and considerate, some have serious issues or are horrible people. She hustled you for sure...I wouldn't even give a deposit. You make a date, you show up and pay before the session, that is fair. If they want money upfront, forget it then...in the end is it really worth the trouble? I mean, what is point of meeting a bodybuilder if they have insane request like 1000 upfront, or they want the lights off, or they don't show up.
As for a girl not showering before a session, who cares? If you really like a women who exercises, you should be able to deal with their natural oder.
I agree with this. Seems to me like an experienced guy like PS should have rubbed one off before making the final decision. That way he wouldn't have had the stored up baby badder clouding his judgement skills. I get $100-$200. But $1000! JF definitely got what she needed out of PS and suffered no real consequences. :-[ This thread isn't gonna affect her one bit.
The sort of drivel to be expected from a clown who has never sessioned. Thanks for your wealth of inexperience on such a topic.
The last thing you wanna do is bring up experience. Because here you are the self proclaimed expert on sessions with FBBs and yet JFuchs makes a sucker out of you. We all love muscular women but you're one of those that flat out worships them. If a random FBB pulled her shoe off and stuck her foot out you'd be the first to get on your knees and kiss it. I find it hilarious this happened to you as much you strut around this forum like some smart-ass who believes he's got all the answers. I was at least trying to provide an excuse. Maybe the little head was thinking for the big head. But if that isn't the case, I guess all the experience in the world can't make up for your stupidity.
Your Karma's matching your IQ.
And yet you didn't deny anything I said.
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Does she still offer sessions
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She does not offer "officially" on sessiongirls or wb270. But if you ask her in private, i think she would offer, for something around 1000 usd for 1.5 hours or so. She needs the money, she works part time in different jobs, her last job was in a gasoline station. She is very serious in her training, never skips a day, very strict about her lifestyle in food and sleep. She does not do webcam sessions in contrast to other fbb.
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She does not offer "officially" on sessiongirls or wb270. But if you ask her in private, i think she would offer, for something around 1000 usd for 1.5 hours or so. She needs the money, she works part time in different jobs, her last job was in a gasoline station. She is very serious in her training, never skips a day, very strict about her lifestyle in food and sleep. She does not do webcam sessions in contrast to other fbb.
Is that good or bad??
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This thread isn't gonna affect her one bit.
I'd partially disagree with that. Is it going to impact her legitimate session business? Probably not. I'd still see her. But it is going to curtail her likelihood of pulling a stunt like this again. I tend to be too trusting as well. Not $1000 trusting, but a couple of hundred. After reading this though, I wouldn't advance her more than $100. And I'm sure that the guys here that are more sensitive to the deposit issue aren't going to be willing to give her anything, and won't be shy about letting her know it's because of PS's report.
After this, I wouldn't see her period. I just don't see the reason to involve myself with someone who engages in these kinds of shenanigans when I can put that $1000 to good use (and/or set it aside) for someone like TaperedPhysique, NikkiJ, Annie Rivveccio or any other girl I know I'm gonna have a good time with. As the saying goes, trust is hard to gain, but very easy to lose.
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All depends on how much you really wanna see her. She is one of the most densely musceled girls anywhere around , you don't get more muscles, compared to Nikki and Tapered she is on another planet.
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All depends on how much you really wanna see her. She is one of the most densely musceled girls anywhere around , you don't get more muscles, compared to Nikki and Tapered she is on another planet.
You actually get the session you booked with the 2 you name unlike with that lowlife