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Title: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: kholloways on July 06, 2012, 09:46:20 pm
Some FBBs were doing sessions long before the Internet really took off in the mid-1990s. Anyone around here have one (or many) in the late 1980s or early 1990s? I guess they were arranged through the the small classified ads in Musclemag and other publications.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: footdan on July 06, 2012, 10:17:39 pm
My first session was in 1989 and  had several through the early to mid 90s. Sessions were set up through networking along with ads in MuscleMag and the few booking services (Mass Muscle, etc) that were around back then.

Lena Voster
Thea Bennington
Kris Luebke
Ziggy
Sharon Marvel
Karla Nelson
Z
Tami Frazier
Tina Lockwood
Gloria Watson
Anita Ramsey
Christine Marshall
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: kholloways on July 06, 2012, 11:20:41 pm
Any memories you wish to share? You're one of the few who tangled with Tina! (I read on some other board that she gave up doing sessions since a number of clients got out of hand.)

I liked a couple of Kris Luebke's videos, but others were boring. I believe she's a nurse today.

Thanks for your reply.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: Cradi on July 07, 2012, 08:44:02 am
footdan, what a great list.
Was there a great difference of strenght between Karla and Tina ?
Karla was taller, but Tina's muscles were bigger.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: uptomyleftnut on July 07, 2012, 12:23:16 pm
kind or interesting dan and i saw almost all the same people



lori grannis
robin parker
carol leon

gloria watson  "lena"
kris leubke
ziggy
karla nelson
Z

michelle ivers
christine marshall
eva from florida
collette guimond
tina lockwood
cyndy james

ziggy
laura vukov
kasie cavanaugh/jane trycka
trevellyan petrilli
collette guimond

joanna      forgot her last name momentarily    olympia competitor from LA  now a pers trainer there

may have missed one or 2

trudy ireland  in 2000 just as internet was being used
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: uptomyleftnut on July 07, 2012, 12:48:09 pm
joanne lee
gabrielle hames
cynthia from chicago
rene johns
amelia altamare



dang i think this is it
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: Casey on July 07, 2012, 07:36:40 pm
Robin Parker was kinda the "godmother" for a lot of girls.  Once you were in with Robin and she gave her approval, you had a ton of girls to pick from.  I never paid anything extra to see one of Robin's girls and I'm not sure if she took anything from them.  But Christa Bauch, Christine Marshall, Thea Bennington and a lot of others were always fun.  In my book, Robin was the best.  She knew just waht to do to make a guy happy, never watched the clock and was an amazing tease.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: xyhg2001 on July 07, 2012, 07:47:29 pm
Malibu was my third session, the first two being in a BDSM place in LA. Met Lee Price and Cynthia at Ed Winik's (MassMuscle) place in Boston. I stupidly passed on a session with Robin, because she said she was 5-2/150, and not understanding bodybuilding at the time I figured she was fat. She wasn't, but my head was. AmFem was useful at the time, as well as some 300 baud bulletin boards.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: bugs on July 07, 2012, 11:21:01 pm
I'm surprised nobody saw Cheryl Harris, she was another godmother of sessionettes with Iron Belles.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: uptomyleftnut on July 07, 2012, 11:45:49 pm
saw cheryl too   ooops   
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: Jonas on July 07, 2012, 11:58:59 pm
Nursel Gurler

You lucky, lucky man.  What kind of session?

Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: arpeggiochords on July 08, 2012, 12:58:03 pm
You lucky bastards!  :cool2:
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: xyhg2001 on July 08, 2012, 07:54:27 pm
Any memories you wish to share? You're one of the few who tangled with Tina! (I read on some other board that she gave up doing sessions since a number of clients got out of hand.)

I liked a couple of Kris Luebke's videos, but others were boring. I believe she's a nurse today.

Thanks for your reply.

I had an appointment with her in Boston but she got sick and had to cancel. Damn, I thought she was hot.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: nujerz84 on July 09, 2012, 02:03:47 am
it had to be nerve racking...for both parties involved...(client and woman)
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: cap9900 on July 09, 2012, 03:51:27 am
Good topic!  Pre internet days for me.  Cynthia (from Chicago), Lee Price, Lori Ugolic (prob spelled the name wrong, but she did a couple videos), Nancy Novak.  I also saw Cheryl Harris, but I found her on the internet.  It was harder in those days.  Amfem and sometimes ads in wrestling mags.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: nujerz84 on July 09, 2012, 03:54:16 am
Good topic!  Pre internet days for me.  Cynthia (from Chicago), Lee Price, Lori Ugolic (prob spelled the name wrong, but she did a couple videos), Nancy Novak.  I also saw Cheryl Harris, but I found her on the internet.  It was harder in those days.  Amfem and sometimes ads in wrestling mags.

Lee Price... man wish I was older I would have love to see her
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: jimmyd1 on July 09, 2012, 01:02:47 pm
Some FBBs were doing sessions long before the Internet really took off in the mid-1990s. Anyone around here have one (or many) in the late 1980s or early 1990s? I guess they were arranged through the the small classified ads in Musclemag and other publications.

Those were def the good ole' days ...

Robin Parker
Sharon Marvel
Christa Bauch
Karla Nelson

Anyone remember the Mass Muscle BBQ's ?
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: uptomyleftnut on July 11, 2012, 12:27:58 am
i do remember the bbqs     and i also saw michelle ralabate and rene johns
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: xyhg2001 on July 11, 2012, 12:38:16 pm
Good topic!  Pre internet days for me.  Cynthia (from Chicago), Lee Price, Lori Ugolic (prob spelled the name wrong, but she did a couple videos), Nancy Novak.  I also saw Cheryl Harris, but I found her on the internet.  It was harder in those days.  Amfem and sometimes ads in wrestling mags.

Lee Price... man wish I was older I would have love to see her

Wrestled her at Ed's place in Boston. She let me scissor her and get into a position where I could have removed her top, but I was too shy to try. Too bad she left the scene early, what a sweetheart.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: Maxturbator on July 11, 2012, 03:50:48 pm
i do remember the bbqs     and i also saw michelle ralabate and rene johns
You had a session with Michelle R???? Can u share some details please?
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: uptomyleftnut on July 11, 2012, 04:42:26 pm
saw her 3 times right at time she won nats/did jan tana


respectfully im not a detail sharer
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: kholloways on July 12, 2012, 10:03:27 pm
She worked (briefly, I think) at a dungeon called Punishment Square.  I remember her saying, Gee you guys aways want to meet on Sunday, I don't know why.  She offered worship and she banged me with a dildo.  She was off-season, but huge and thick.  You like that tit in your mouth, she snarled at me.  Take it all, stuff it in your mouth.   No FS, but pretty close.  This was before she moved out west. She was pretty good-natured about the whole thing and seemed to enjoy being in command.  She had the smoothest skin, I remember. Read later that her then boyfriend did not approve so she exited the scene, as many do.  Those big dark eyes.....

This would make a great idea for an episode of "Law and Order: SVU."

Man is found dead in hotel room. Large abrasions on his torso and a couple of cracked ribs. "Tox screen" finds he died of a deadly mix of silicone (when by reflex he bit into a FBB's surgically-enhanced breast, which ruptured) and posing oil.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: bigbrent747 on July 13, 2012, 06:12:21 am
 Did I read correctly.  One of my FAVORITE female BB of all time, Kris Luebke, did sessions!!! 

What was the session like?  Was she aggressive?  Was she as powerful and sexy in person as she was n video?

Thx in advance for ur response.

Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: uptomyleftnut on July 13, 2012, 06:11:11 pm
hi brent

in my 5 sessions with her    they were all sensuous  that escalated   very powerful though   and a nice woman i liked her
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: Takedown01 on July 18, 2012, 05:18:43 am
Emilia Altomare (and her friend Crystal)
Nursel Gurler
Heather Fine and her sister
Celine
Britta Olsen
One more from Wa. state-- can't recall her name-- she recently resurfaced in fitness.

This was all mid to late 90's.
From wash state... Do you mean Evilkitty?
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: lix4fbbs on July 18, 2012, 05:47:16 am
Did anyone here meet that ultimate, pin-up dynamo Doughdee Marie?
If so, how was that session?
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: doriteman on July 19, 2012, 12:07:03 am
I saw many of those already mentioned and also pre-tatoos, massive Dawn Whitham
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: trevor on July 19, 2012, 12:12:03 am
Did anyone here meet that ultimate, pin-up dynamo Doughdee Marie?
If so, how was that session?

That would actually make me jealous like hell.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: kicked in the face by a lady bodybuilder on August 10, 2012, 04:50:13 pm
Athena, NYC, 1991
Dawn Whitham, 1993
Amelia Hernandez

MUSCLEMAG was big hookup then...true underground
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: bwazoo_2000 on August 10, 2012, 07:56:24 pm
 ;) Good call...MUSCLEMAG was my source, too. That's how i hooked up with Athena and one or two others.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: e_honda on August 10, 2012, 10:49:25 pm
i do remember the bbqs     and i also saw michelle ralabate and rene johns

Very jealous that you saw Rene Johns back in the day.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: kicked in the face by a lady bodybuilder on August 11, 2012, 05:41:36 pm
passed up or missed a chance with Tina Lockwood from flyer Mass Muscle Ed had sent me...still regret that one...
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: todd22 on August 12, 2012, 11:51:25 am
Wow, would love to hear detailed accounts for the sessions with Renee Johns and Joanne Lee?
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: MRMIKENC on August 15, 2012, 03:27:54 am
My first real bodybuilder session was with Sally McNeil ...got her number off a KENSTAR video tape...wow that was long ago....
Also, saw Robin Parker, Cheryl Harris, Karla Nelson , Tigra ( more wrestler than BB) Joanne Lee ( FYI, Joanne Lee extremely sensual)
Tami Frazier, Kelly ( ICE ) Young, Anita Ramsey and Jasmine Johnson, I used to snail mail information about women from Robin Parker...I had saved all of those flyers from Robin but a few years ago had a flood and they were all damaged...
The one girl I missed out on and am sorry we never met was Thresa Bostick .....
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: fredzeppelin on August 16, 2012, 08:18:18 am
Impressive list from a lot of you guys. Nursel Gurler? To be fly on the wall for that one!

In the 90s I had:
Hannie Van Aken (upper body was good but not great, but her legs were colossal -- her calves looked like they could
                             pulverize a man's skull)

Sharon Marvel (not in very good shape dissapointing session)

Cheryl Harris (nice, muscular body, good armwrestler)

Karla Nelson (spectacularly muscular but I actually found her towering height to be something of a turnoff)

You guys will freak out with this one -- Michelle Andrea. A brief half-hour session held after the 1996 Ms International.
She actually posed for me in a "look but don't touch" session WITH her behemoth boyfriend in the room at the time.
Pumping and preening in a stars and stripes bikini, she was in hard, tanned, contest ready shape and drop dead gorgeous. I have to admit my memories
 of the session are kind of fuzzy, as I had trouble concentrating with her massive boyfriend in the room, a fierce scowl etched on his face, obviously disgusted
by the whole affair (and I was only a scrawny 20 something kid at the time). So although it was unbeleviable to see Michelle up close and in that kind of shape,
it was all in all a much more rushed, tense session than I would have preferred. 
                             
Last and best of all was Denise Gerard. She came to my parents Northern Virginia mansion (with mom and dad gone for the weekend to the ocean city).
Her top was concealed by a drab grey University of Maryland sweater, her legs in parachute-pant baggies. But even covered up I got a sense of her power
-- the deeply tanned face, the powerful jawline, the nonchalant gum chewing. My mouth was dry with anticipation as I led her into the house.

We chatted briefly and I gave her a quick tour of the place. She seemed pretty impressed with the sprawling mansion -- I think she came from lower
middle class part of town and had never set foot in the ultra rich suburb of Mclean, Virginia. We made are way up to the master bedroom, where she went to
change in the main bathroom, while I eased myself into the recliner in the spacious master bedroom, sipping on a glass of red wine, heart racing in anticipation
of what was to come.

About five minutes later, I heard this powerful, rythmic "thud, thud, thud" reverberate across the hardwood floors of the bedroom, as a hulking figure emerged from the bathroom. What hit me first was not the muscles, but the walk. She was undeniably feminine, but the walk was 100% masculine. An arrogant swagger -- head erect, chest puffed up, massive arms swaying by her sides, the tight, muscular glutes clenching and unclenching insolently as she powered her way past her into the room. My eyes went wide as I drank in the exagerrated v-shape of her back, the softball shaped shoulders, the dangerous flare of her triceps. Her legs were so huge and muscular they couldnt possibly belong to a woman -- a ploughhorse perhaps? Clydesdale? The contrast between the insolent swell of her muscles and her more feminine features was intoxicating: the tiny, sexy bare feet, her slender, braceleted wrists, the heavy scent of perfume mixed with tanning oil.  She brought her massive physique a foot so before me with a loud thump, as my wine soaked brain tried to come to grips with the cartoonish dimensions of the bodybuilder -- how much did she weigh? 160, 170, 200lbs? All at a petite 5'1 or so?  She was so close I could hear the sky-blue competition bikini stretch as she hit her first shot, a vigorous side chest pose. She then pivoted deftly on the ball of her foot, her agility impressive for a woman of her size,  and hit a thundering rear double biceps pose. I staggered meekly to my feet, reaching out with nothing short of reverence for the rippling shouders, then running my fingers  tenderly across the bull-like neck, the thick, protruding veins of her biceps, the broad, seemingly endless expanse of back...

The rest of the session was great, of course, but it was really the first 2-3 minutes -- the inital, nervous introduction, the anticipation as I wait in the master bedroom, the shock to the senses as she emerges tanned and ripped from the bathroom, and the powerhouse pumping and posing after that...just unforgettable. I've many sessions after that, but none that  have even come close to topping it!       
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: bkrugby on August 16, 2012, 12:31:00 pm
You know I've kind of wondered the about how sessions are different, from now contrasted with back THEN.  Not to make you guys sound old, but contrasting from the pre-internet days when you had to rifle through magazines to today, where contacting one of these women for the most part is as easy as pointing and clicking.

Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: fredzeppelin on August 16, 2012, 03:23:36 pm
Yeah, but back then in many ways it was more thrilling. Nowadays with the net you're just inundated with the stuff.
Back in those days, a magazine article in Flex magazine, a clunky old WPW vhs tape, a trip to a local contest, your first actual session
-- they were so damn precious. I have to admit that having spent 20 years on the scene I'm a heck a lot of more jaded these days than 
I was back then.   
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: Maxturbator on August 16, 2012, 04:03:42 pm
Thanks khuddle for sharing Michelle Andrea story :)
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: japiejay on August 16, 2012, 05:34:09 pm
About five minutes later, I heard this powerful, rythmic "thud, thud, thud" reverberate across the hardwood floors of the bedroom, as a hulking figure emerged from the bathroom. What hit me first was not the muscles, but the walk. She was undeniably feminine, but the walk was 100% masculine. An arrogant swagger -- head erect, chest puffed up, massive arms swaying by her sides, the tight, muscular glutes clenching and unclenching insolently as she powered her way past her into the room.

Fantastic description; when I get around to having my first session, that's exactly how I'd like it to start.  Hot stuff!  K+
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: bkrugby on August 16, 2012, 06:03:43 pm
I imagine with us having all of this at our fingertips, the feeling is different.  When I bought a wrestling magazine once and came across an ad for Joan Wise videos, I admit, I kept that magazine purely because of that ad and fantasized about the limited descriptions and pictures that were contained.  I figured, if I could just get to NYC, where this place was listed, then I would be golden lol.  Of course I was a lot younger back then, but it was so rarely.  Going to the bookstore and looking one way or another and quickly leafing through the copy of Women's Physique World before putting it back quickly, lol.  Nowadays, you want to see female muscle on the internet, it's a click away.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: MRMIKENC on August 17, 2012, 02:43:54 am
Khuddle..I also want to thank you for the  Michelle Andrea story...she was on my list that never happened .. . I did not mention Sharon Marvel because when I met her she was actually FAT... the other girl that I saw way back when was Christine Rocks..she worked under a dfifferent name..she was also dissapointing. The other folks are right the excitement in meeting a woman in person you have only seen pictures of, was heart thumping. now you go Shemuscle's site and he gives you a free up close  tour. Besides missing out on Thresa B... I hear that Camiie Lusko would also do select sessions with clients ...more posing and flexing then wrestle or sensual... now that is going way back
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: kholloways on August 17, 2012, 08:23:57 pm
To show the store clerk that I wasn't odd (and avoid the dreaded smirk or even worse, a comment), I often bought a couple of bodybuilding magazines and a couple of "generic" ones (Time, Newsweek) when WPW came in.

(Any of you go to different stores each time?)

It seems Tina is the ultimate wrestling fantasy, but nearly everyone who had a session with her reports of being disappointed with her. She sounds like she didn't like doing them and soon gave it up.

Even 20 years ago or so with Musclemag, the cost remains relatively the same: $300 per hour.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: Polite Society on August 21, 2012, 04:48:05 pm
  After some extensive but ultimately truly worthwhile negotiations with them, I would say the earliest UTR breakthroughs I made were Vikki Cole and Florence David.
   The one that got away was Laura Bass.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: yaxenioriquen2000 on August 23, 2012, 03:41:49 pm
Yes, I too recall my first session with Athena Annis in Greenwich Village. I found her by pure chance calling the number given in an ad at the end of a MuscleMag back in 1992. The answering machine went on and the unmistakeable thick NYC accent of Athena (recognized it from a WPW video!!). Recognizing her voice was almost as thrilling as the first few minutes of meeting her in her Big Apple apartment! When she emerged from her bathroom in a thong bikini with a "Da da!" (drumroll type voice), I will never forget being absolutely speechless seeing that extraordinary Italian/Greek facial beauty combined with those perfectly sculpted watermelon thighs and Brazilian like derriere. She was the perfect package. I saw her a half a dozen times after that but none were as memorable as that first session.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: Maxturbator on August 23, 2012, 06:37:36 pm
How much i envy you 90's guys  ;D Athena, M. Ralabate, M. Andrea...
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: FBBMW on October 10, 2021, 01:13:52 am
Before the internet, magazine ads were the contact, including personals in large city mags.
Then we had to hope the girl would contact us when she was coming to town again.   
There were a couple promoters around also, if you saw their ads. 
 
In the 90's I met:
Thea Bennington
Karla Nelson
Tami Frazier
Christine Marshall
JoAnne McCartney
Colette Extreme Muscle
Trudy Ireland (early 2000s, but by ad)
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: Camper on October 11, 2021, 03:45:38 pm
Would love to hear a review of a Karla Nelsen session. Growing up 20 minutes from her and having no idea what sessions were or that she provided them is still a thorn in my side. I reached out after she had retired but obviously it was too late.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: FBBMW on October 12, 2021, 01:42:03 am
Would love to hear a review of a Karla Nelsen session. Growing up 20 minutes from her and having no idea what sessions were or that she provided them is still a thorn in my side. I reached out after she had retired but obviously it was too late.
Just posing + MW for me.   Sometimes she had a boyfriend/husband there, who left the room when I arrived.   
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: HartfordWhalersFan on October 12, 2021, 02:47:21 am
In 1997, I contacted Joan Wise and made session inquiries about three girls in the Jaguar videos. I wanted to scissor session with Alicia, Simone and Nikki Knockers. At that time, I had no clue about scheduling a session and explained this to Joan in my email but she was still rude in her reply. I also contacted Kip, from Utopia Entertainment, and Kip explained how sessions are scheduled and fee request. Kip was cool but I couldn’t get Charlene Rink to session. I saw an advertisement for Utopia Entertainment in a Fighting Females magazine and have liked session wrestling since that day.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: jullyeg on October 12, 2021, 06:45:59 am
I have done my first sessions in that pre-internet time: first session in 1992 with Thea Bennington. I have met Robin Parker, Thea (several times), Karla Nelson, Thresa Brostik, Nicole Bass and many other women in that period!
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: boyofwinter on October 13, 2021, 09:16:28 pm
Would love to hear a review of a Karla Nelsen session. Growing up 20 minutes from her and having no idea what sessions were or that she provided them is still a thorn in my side. I reached out after she had retired but obviously it was too late.
Karla was my 2nd session (1st was a small athletic type) did wrestling, posing and mw. Thankfully I was smart enough to book 2 hours despite never meeting a bb before. She wasn't my favorite session because I later got to meet my fbb obsession, but she was absolutely great. She was both commanding (without slipping into domme schtick) and sexy, not sure if that being my thing happened naturally or it's because I want everyone to act like Karla, anyway she drove the session and was never wrong about what I'd like. She was fully clothed for the parts where we rolled around and less clothed for some hands-off parts. She was truly fantastic.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: e_honda on October 14, 2021, 05:22:40 am
This was definitely before my time. Back then, I didn't even know sessions existed. It was probably for the best since I wouldn't have been able to afford them anyways.

I certainly can't complain about who I've been able to meet the past 12 years, but I'm genuinely jealous of anyone who met Christa Bauch, Denise Gerard or Amelia Hernandez in their primes. I suppose Robin Parker and Michelle Ivers as well. And if Renee Johns or Michele Ralabate really did sessions as well? That would be too much for me to take, LOL.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: Dthump2000 on October 14, 2021, 04:25:09 pm
Before the internet, magazine ads were the contact, including personals in large city mags.
Then we had to hope the girl would contact us when she was coming to town again.   
There were a couple promoters around also, if you saw their ads. 
 
In the 90's I met:
Thea Bennington
Karla Nelson
Tami Frazier
Christine Marshall
JoAnne McCartney
Colette Extreme Muscle
Trudy Ireland (early 2000s, but by ad)

I always wanted a session with Colette Guimond but i don’t see she has been online or set up a travel schedule since May.  Has she stopped?   She looks so incredibly muscular
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: boyofwinter on October 14, 2021, 09:42:07 pm
I passed on the amazing 1998 version of Amelia since I had already met Andrulla and Th-resa. All I can say is it didn't seem like a decision I'd still be regretting more than 20 years later at the time, we've all got a few of those.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: FBBMW on October 15, 2021, 01:11:25 am

I always wanted a session with Colette Guimond but i don’t see she has been online or set up a travel schedule since May.  Has she stopped?   She looks so incredibly muscular
Colette still has muscle, but not as much or as lean as in her prime.   
I don't see her in WB270 now, so that could be bad news for sessions.
Google her to find email. 
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: tsalem on October 15, 2021, 01:03:09 pm
I would be interested in what people thought about the Thea B sessions they had
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: boyofwinter on October 15, 2021, 06:34:16 pm
I would be interested in what people thought about the Thea B sessions they had

Had an awesome wrestling session with her, she excelled at that a bit more than posing imo. She was one of the very few ladies I never had to ask to up her intensity, she loved to literally throw guys off of her if you hadn't gained solid control of her arms and hips, and she immediately used maximum effort with her headlocks and scissors. She didn't seem to go out of her way to play up her femininity as much as some others and while I love big legs hers weren't as separated and shapely as I expected given how great her arms looked, those tiny points were the only things that kept her from being a perfect session.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: josh3157 on October 25, 2021, 06:40:40 pm
I had my 1st session with Karla Nelson in 1995. Mass Muscle Videos had moved very close to me and I called a number in an ad because I saw they were literally down the street from me. I went to the apartment and Karla answered the door in a hoodie and shorts.  Mass Muscle Ed was there and we chatted for a bit. He offered that I could do the session free if I would agree to have it filmed. I said no thanks lol. My heart was going 100mph just standing there looking at Karla. I had never seen anything like her before. I was even afraid to touch her.  She said I could feel her muscles and it was so amazing how soft her skin was but with what felt like rocks underneath. Later she put on 6inch heels and posed in front to the mirror in the bathroom. She was a head taller than me in heels which I nearly hyperventilated from seeing her flex over my head. After that we did some holds and light wrestling. Maybe still my favorite session because I was so green and was shaking the whole time. She was really a nice lady.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: Bulklover on November 12, 2021, 09:47:21 pm
What a fascinating thread!  I see so many old names I recognize.  I had my first session with Robin in '92 when I went to her loft in Brooklyn.  Holy shit, was I ever terrified!!  LMAO!  A bad neighborhood peopled with a badass fbber!!  I was so inexperienced and callow, we just sort of did light wrestling and rolled around, and it was the time of my life!  Who knew back then it would lead to scores of sessions over the next twenty years??!  I had the pleasure to meet (but not session with) Karla Nelson, Thea Bennington (an absolute sweetheart; when Robin introduced me, Thea said in that sweet Kentucky accent "Fahnally!  A ree-ul mai-un!"  That is where I came up with the phrase "The Dangerfield Coefficient."  If you wanna look like a real man, hang around schmoes!  LOL!).  Also met Christa Bauch and several others whose names now escape me.  Robin and I ended up dating for about a year . . . until she wised up and realized that although I was a pretty nice guy, I was utterly lacking in worldliness and incredibly naïve.  But what a great life experience!  Great thread!!
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: hwillish on November 13, 2021, 07:59:45 pm
Bulk...you are DA MAN!!!  My first attempt at doing sessions was by contacting Thea B as she was in Kentucky and not that far a drive.  Unfortunately, I did not have a "rabbi ette" such as you had and all I got were some photos   :what: :  But that did not deter me and shortly thereafter I discovered Cynthia the Iron Raven Maiden while perusing RK's Muscle Magazine.

That's all she wrote...still going strong and still loving it!!!!
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: Bulklover on November 13, 2021, 11:56:23 pm
Bulk...you are DA MAN!!!  My first attempt at doing sessions was by contacting Thea B as she was in Kentucky and not that far a drive.  Unfortunately, I did not have a "rabbi ette" such as you had and all I got were some photos   :what: :  But that did not deter me and shortly thereafter I discovered Cynthia the Iron Raven Maiden while perusing RK's Muscle Magazine.

That's all she wrote...still going strong and still loving it!!!!

LOL!  In the words of Vic the Brick Jacobs:  "Feelin' you!"  I recall my very first session was with Robin; I saw her ad in the back of Robert Kennedy's Muscle Mag in '91.  Well, Robert Kennedy is dead, so is Muscle Mag, and Robin is 66 years old and retired.  WTF happened and where did the time go?  I would still LOVE to session . . . but now I have to pick my spots very carefully and most of the ladies I saw back in the day are retired, and sadly, a couple like Kris Clark, who was a gem, have passed on.  Cycle of schmo- uh, I mean life.  And wasn't Thea adorable??  <3
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: knufflschmoe on November 14, 2021, 10:20:36 am
for me,no chance to get in contact before the internet time .......didn?t even know there were FBB offering sessions.....
also in europe no scene existed at all-no travellers .....the US were really (is still) enviable ,what concerns this

here only the "Womens Physique World" magazins available in the 80/90`s.
(.....felt a bit embarrassed when I give this literature to the seller to purchase=


at 2004 had my first session ever with a girl called "Olga Bakulopolous" .....was very excited the first time
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: Bionic55 on November 14, 2021, 06:52:40 pm
  After some extensive but ultimately truly worthwhile negotiations with them, I would say the earliest UTR breakthroughs I made were Vikki Cole and Florence David.
   The one that got away was Laura Bass.

I used to wait until the store was empty and then time my WPW purchase - it was embarrassing but also a buzz when I got out the shop. Sod’s law someone would walk in as I was paying for it lol.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: boyofwinter on November 14, 2021, 07:58:58 pm
at 2004 had my first session ever with a girl called "Olga Bakulopolous" .....was very excited the first time
Did you do muscle stuff with Olga? If so I am curious what that was like since I did wrestling sessions with her. She did seem to have a fun side though.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: Polite Society on November 15, 2021, 04:07:09 am
  After some extensive but ultimately truly worthwhile negotiations with them, I would say the earliest UTR breakthroughs I made were Vikki Cole and Florence David.
   The one that got away was Laura Bass.

I used to wait until the store was empty and then time my WPW purchase - it was embarrassing but also a buzz when I got out the shop. Sod’s law someone would walk in as I was paying for it lol.

  Thanks for promoting my 2012 post that had nothing to do with yours.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: hwillish on November 17, 2021, 04:54:53 am
RIP...Kris Clarke :-*   Maaany good memories....
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: Bulklover on November 17, 2021, 05:45:14 am
RIP...Kris Clarke :-*   Maaany good memories....

Yep, she was a gem.  :'(
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: boyofwinter on November 17, 2021, 02:05:53 pm
RIP...Kris Clarke :-*   Maaany good memories....

Yep, she was a gem.  :'(
I love a mean, nose-crunching pec smother, and so did she.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: hwillish on November 17, 2021, 07:28:18 pm
Be still...my beating  :-*  And what I reaaaally miss is having her by my side at Tampa Bay Lightning games!!!  She really knew her hockey...  8)
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: OrangeCountyCalifornia on November 25, 2021, 08:21:46 am
Two women I saw in the early 90s were Karla Nelsen and Laura Vukov.  They were my first two and they were hot.  Another woman I saw from an ad in Musclemag was Sonja, a 6ft Australian in Venice.  She was my all-time favorite.  In 1997, a woman I saw in 1997 through WB270 was Joanne Lee, also in Venice.

Women I wish I saw but never did were Thea Bennington, Tina Lockwood, Kris Lubke, Lori Ugolik and Dawn Whitman.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: Bulklover on November 26, 2021, 12:20:10 am
Two women I saw in the early 90s were Karla Nelsen and Laura Vukov.  They were my first two and they were hot.  Another woman I saw from an ad in Musclemag was Sonja, a 6ft Australian in Venice.  She was my all-time favorite.  In 1997, a woman I saw in 1997 through WB270 was Joanne Lee, also in Venice.

Women I wish I saw but never did were Thea Bennington, Tina Lockwood, Kris Lubke, Lori Ugolik and Dawn Whitman.

Old school!  Loved ALL those women, never sessioned with them though . . . a big fail on my part.  I DID have an opp to sit NEXT to Karla while she was in between sessions.  I was there to pick up my gf at the time at Ed Winik's. FBBs were EVERYWHERE!  I didn't know whether to shit or go blind!  KN was HUGE and shredded.  She said, "Don't worry about staring; I get that a lot.  Hahahaha!"  And I met Kris Luebke, but did not session with her; she was very sweet.  LV was a near miss I've always regretted.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: HartfordWhalersFan on November 30, 2021, 07:10:37 pm
Did Rachel McLish ever scissor anyone in a video or private session? Back in the day; I would’ve loved to experience a scissors session with Charlene Rink. I first saw Charlene participating in Miss Fitness USA on ESPN. I believe Charlene was snubbed by the fitness community once she started appearing in session wrestling videos. Rachel McLish and Charlene Rink, two absolutely stunning ladies.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: busthemus2003 on December 05, 2021, 11:00:06 am
Two women I saw in the early 90s were Karla Nelsen and Laura Vukov.  They were my first two and they were hot.  Another woman I saw from an ad in Musclemag was Sonja, a 6ft Australian in Venice.  She was my all-time favorite.  In 1997, a woman I saw in 1997 through WB270 was Joanne Lee, also in Venice.

Women I wish I saw but never did were Thea Bennington, Tina Lockwood, Kris Lubke, Lori Ugolik and Dawn Whitman.


who was the big Australian? Sonja? Last name?
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: david5647 on December 08, 2021, 03:21:58 pm
 :wow:
Yes, I too recall my first session with Athena Annis in Greenwich Village. I found her by pure chance calling the number given in an ad at the end of a MuscleMag back in 1992. The answering machine went on and the unmistakeable thick NYC accent of Athena (recognized it from a WPW video!!). Recognizing her voice was almost as thrilling as the first few minutes of meeting her in her Big Apple apartment! When she emerged from her bathroom in a thong bikini with a "Da da!" (drumroll type voice), I will never forget being absolutely speechless seeing that extraordinary Italian/Greek facial beauty combined with those perfectly sculpted watermelon thighs and Brazilian like derriere. She was the perfect package. I saw her a half a dozen times after that but none were as memorable as that first session.
:woohoo:Athena in her teen, 20's and even 30's was muscularly and erotically explosive in her sessions...she knew one could not resist...and she knew what she desired for pleasure.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: busthemus2003 on December 20, 2021, 06:24:35 am
Thinking back my first session was not set up over the internet and didn’t really know sessions was thing. Always loved muscular girls amd was staying at Star City in Sydney and there happened to be a fitness expo on. In the bar one night  3 muscular  ladies walked in and sat next to me. Got chatting and things went from there. They showed me wb270 I think and it was a wow moment. I left the casino $800 lighter.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: realun on January 10, 2022, 01:31:30 am
Karla Nelsen in '93 was my first

then Cynthia Raven Iron Maiden

then Kasie Cavanaugh

I haven't had a session in about 15 years, but I'm thinking about seeing Ms. Melissa
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: OrangeCountyCalifornia on January 11, 2022, 03:02:04 am
Two women I saw in the early 90s were Karla Nelsen and Laura Vukov.  They were my first two and they were hot.  Another woman I saw from an ad in Musclemag was Sonja, a 6ft Australian in Venice.  She was my all-time favorite.  In 1997, a woman I saw in 1997 through WB270 was Joanne Lee, also in Venice.

Women I wish I saw but never did were Thea Bennington, Tina Lockwood, Kris Lubke, Lori Ugolik and Dawn Whitman.


who was the big Australian? Sonja? Last name?

She never gave a last name.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: Bulklover on January 14, 2022, 06:48:32 am
Karla Nelsen in '93 was my first

then Cynthia Raven Iron Maiden

then Kasie Cavanaugh

I haven't had a session in about 15 years, but I'm thinking about seeing Ms. Melissa

Duuuuude!  You saw Karla in her PRIME!!  I never sessioned with her; I was dating a fbb who was friends with her, so I never got the chance . . . but I sat next to her on a sofa for about twenty minutes at Ed Winik's while he was filming wrestling videos as I waited for my squeeze.  Hole-ee-shit!!  KN was a fantasy straight out of the mists and forests of Bulksylvania . . . massive, gorgeous . . . and, bro, YOU are my hero!
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: boyofwinter on January 14, 2022, 03:05:58 pm
Duuuuude!  You saw Karla in her PRIME!!  I never sessioned with her; I was dating a fbb who was friends with her, so I never got the chance . . . but I sat next to her on a sofa for about twenty minutes at Ed Winik's while he was filming wrestling videos as I waited for my squeeze.  Hole-ee-shit!!  KN was a fantasy straight out of the mists and forests of Bulksylvania . . . massive, gorgeous . . . and, bro, YOU are my hero!

Karla was awesome. In person she was relaxed (never raised her voice) but still effortlessly commanding, exactly what I dig. The aesthetics speak for themselves.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: FbbFanatic2522 on January 21, 2022, 04:36:05 am
My favorites from this era were Paula Piwarunas and Brenda Southard. Did either of them ever do sessions? I was just a kid back then and had no clue on sessions at the time!
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: jullyeg on January 21, 2022, 07:39:02 am
I dreamt of Karla and was a little disappointed by my session with her, in 1993.
Thea Bennington (who remains one of my 2 all time favorites, with Arekah), Thresa Brostik or Robin Parker offered sessions much much unforgettable.
Nicole Bass was a comparable disappointment a few years later. Both were kind, pro, no problem. Not bad sessions, just far away from the expectations and expected fantasy.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: tsalem on January 21, 2022, 02:18:49 pm
Can you please explain why Thea and Arekah were your favorites?
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: jullyeg on January 22, 2022, 06:00:39 am
Different reason. I met Thea many times. My first session was with her. I was young and very shy. Then I saw her again. She was beautiful, very kind, very sexy, but at our third session something happened, an amazing moment, absolute fantasy. I decided to set up another session the day after. We had a short personal relationship. I won't tell details of the rest. I don't count anymore, but I have had maybe 150 sessions with 100 different ladies in the last 30 years. In most sessions, nothing happened, but with Thea, the session itself was unforgettable but the best memory is what a personal meeting.
With Arekah, it is almost the contrary. The first session was stunning. I was speechless. An incredible moment of fantasy : she was perfect, her physique, her attitude, intelligence. She entered into my mind. I met her 3 times, but the best session was the first. The 2 other were absolutely the same, which was a little disappointing. Usely, when you become a regular client, the session girl (the same for escorts) become different, social time is different etc. Arekah was the absolute pro, but was inaccessible.

A last point. When I met Thea, I was a very young man, younger than her, good looking, very slim. When I had my sessions with Arekah, I was still as slim... but 20 years older (and 13 years older than Arekah).
Nevertheless, I am pretty sure Arekah would have been inaccessible even if was 10 years younger than I am when I met her.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: boyofwinter on January 22, 2022, 12:57:16 pm
I think this is a great example of why our experiences with the ladies can be so varied. With Thea we (she and I) connected through wrestling/physicality but it didn't go much further, whereas with Arekah our connection was profound - there's no other good word for it and from reading their comments over the years I think many others who've met her would say the same thing.
Not nearly the same level but between those 2 poles I'd say my sessions with Karla came much closer to mine with Arekah, she really understood the angle I wanted her to take and if she wasn't also enjoying doing so in the moment she was an excellent actress.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: boyofwinter on January 22, 2022, 12:59:06 pm
Maybe I just have a thing for ladies from Minnesota/the general area?
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: tsalem on January 23, 2022, 12:28:12 am
Thanks for your reply.  Very interesting.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: Chainer★ on January 16, 2023, 12:28:47 pm
I'd love to read Bill and Alan's (https://saradas.org/index.php?topic=876222.msg2935798#msg2935798) Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s.

Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: DCReviews on October 16, 2023, 01:46:17 pm
Believe it or not Nicole Bass, had several crazy sessions with her.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: VegasAce on October 16, 2023, 03:50:16 pm
Believe it or not Nicole Bass, had several crazy sessions with her.

Well, if you're a necromancer, you can make that happen!
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: DCReviews on October 17, 2023, 12:28:05 am
Believe it or not Nicole Bass, had several crazy sessions with her.

Well, if you're a necromancer, you can make that happen!

☠️💀🧟‍♀️  There are unfortunately a few session ladies who have passed that I would love to see again. Traveling back through time. Lynn McCrossin, Joanna Thomas, among others. 
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: richmann on October 17, 2023, 01:23:10 am
It wasn’t pre-internet, but I had a session with Lynn McCrossin in Phoenix many years ago. She was amazing and I actually ended up spending the night in her room. We ended up as friends for a while but she was just getting into a new relationship so it started getting awkward.

She was an exceptional woman and knew exactly what buttons to press. That night will stay in my memory for ever.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: lifted on October 17, 2023, 11:42:26 am
Karla and Tina were the 2 I regret not seeing.
Title: Re: Pre-Internet Sessions in the late 1980s and early 1990s?
Post by: Skweeztoy on October 20, 2023, 09:34:48 pm
My first session was back in 1996 with Tori Sinclair. Back then I got all my travel information from the classified section of “Screw” magazine.