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Private Sessions => Warnings for Private Sessions & Scammers and Complaints => Topic started by: jarnold on December 06, 2011, 07:12:22 pm
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Did anyone else see this report on WB270, in the Las Vegas section warning wrestlers about a dangerous man who's been trying to book sessons and rip off wrestlers. Apparently he messed with the wrong girl and wound up out cold on her hotel room floor. She sent WB270 a report of the incident to warn others .... anyone know who the girl might be? My first guess it might be Amber Deluca - I know she hates "tweakers", visits Vegas a lot, and is one girl with with size, strength and skill to size up a 6'1" 260 man alone with her in a hotel and be confident she could whip his ass in a real fight. Other guesses are Shannon Dallas Hall (was once arrested for beating a man unconcious in a bar fight), and Arekah Lox (has a bad temper and a big right hook she once used on a big football player in while in high school breaking the kids jaw).
I would LOVE to confirm who the girl is - we should all send her our congrats $$$$.
Here is what the girl reported - what do you guys think?
"I just wanted to give a little more info about the dangerous guy in Las Vegas. Unfortunately, I didn't see the warning you posted about him until now. I booked a session with him the last time I was in Vegas and he was a no show. Then emailed me the next day about how his wife was in an accident and that's why he couldn't make it. He offered to pay me $1000 for being an inconvenience and wanted to pay me with some prepaid "green card" through western union. I didn't accept, but, I ended up going to vegas again a week later and he begged for a session so I booked him again....still not aware what you posted. I just figured he was B.S., but he could talk the talk and made it sound like he was a successful business man from eastcoast. (said he owned 27 mcdonalds) and he didn't sound like a pervert, so I gave him one more chance.
As soon as I opened the door, I could see that that was the farthest from the truth, he was an overweight tweaker with greasy hair, sloppy clothes and missing his whole row of top teeth. I got so pissed off I gave him a hard right hook across the jaw right when he walked in the door. I knocked him out for about 1min and as he fell, his ID fell out of his pocket. It said Benjamin Boren from Westbury, NY. If it was a real ID, it was thin and bendy. I've never seen a NY drivers license, but the pic was a match. As he started to come to, I threw his ID at him and cursed him out as I kicked him. He was shaking when he got up and put his finger in my face saying he was going to get security and I was going to jail, I let him run out and I noticed he had his checkbook sticking out of his back pocket He must have thought he was going to attempt to pay me with a check.....wrong!
Just wanted to give you that info...he did contact me with the email bboren6530@gmail.com and used the number 516-813-5816. Wish I would have read your post before....but I do feel quite satisfied that I gave that psycho fucker what I like to call the business for wasting my time. But, I will confim that he is tweaked out of his mind and extremely dangerous and definitely unpredictable. He was about 6'1 and 260lbs. Hope this additional info helps."
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She doesn't have to be as large as Amber to be able to knock this guy out. Many of them have enough upper body strength to enhance their punching power. We could speculate all day, but I'd love for the person to come forward.
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Yeah it could be almost any girl - but whoever she is, it was a pretty brave move. If you are a going drill somebody with a right hook you can't be sure you're going to put them out, and there is a good chance of the guy getting up enraged and swinging back at you. The girl was in a hotel room, alone, with this guy so she had to to be pretty confident that she could beat the shit out of him if he went on the attack and it came down to a full on fight. That's what made me think of Amber, plus I've heard her use phrases like "psycho fucker" and "tweaker" before. But yeah that's still a shot in the dark guess.
Whoever she is, she did a great thing. An idiot like this guy could be really harmful to the session scene if he had actually hurt somebody or ripped off a girl. If sessioning gets dangerous for the girls because of a jackass like this a lot girl would like quit or scale it back to only guys they know.
I do hope the girl reads this and comes forward because I think girls and guys a like who are into sessions owe her a dept of gratitude.
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what debt of gratitude me thinks u r just getting off on it lol
hell i get off on it i wouldnt try to couch it as somethin else
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The lady is probably a skilled fighter as well. This guy's name is actually Brian Borenstein and he is known for bringing out the worst in people. He was even shot by his own mother.
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@nick1957 - Well I do think it's pretty hot that a female wrestler punched this guy's lights out, but I'm also serious when I say she did a great a thing and I wish she would come forward. I'd ask to book a session with her and give a bonus for doing everyone in the session business a big favor. Read the links about the Brian Borenstein / Benjamin Boren guy in the Nevada section of WB270. He's a seriously bad dude.
But, he is also a seriously DUMB dude! Out of all the possible victims he could target to rip off and/or scam (datings websites, craigslist etc) , he decides to go after buffed athletlic women who are basically professional ass kickers! There is some real poetic justice to this guy trying to victimize a woman, but instead getting knocked out cold by the woman with one punch. Talk about being out of your league - I actually think it's hilarious the way it turned out for this douchebag. I kind of doubt he'll ever try to mess with an FBB or session wrestler again.
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i did read it and yes he is a scum bag in every way!!!
i still think we all get off on it lol
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How nice of her to assume that a fat guy with greasy hair, sloppy clothes, and a missing row of teeth could not possibly own a chain of McDonalds.
I hear people talking about getting off on this, (which I also do myself) and I hear people talking about how her action was for the benefit of session girls and session guys alike.
Has anyone considered the future non-benefits of an action like this?
Imagine if you were telling a 1st time session girl about yourself + job on the phone (and naturally, like most men try to do, they describe themselves in a positive light), and then when you show up at her hotel, the girl takes one look at you (ie. the split second you are coming in the door) and quickly decides that you don't look anything like a person who should be in your line of work and then she decides to clock you.
Okay, so there's some food for thought, but does that frighten any session males out there to the point of where they look like scared little school girls over the idea that they might not be perceived as they describe themselves over the phone?!? For instance, let's just say you describe yourself as a little out of shape and she thinks your are a complete fatass when you 1st meet. Does this possibility not scare the heck out of some of you?!?
And just to clear it up now, I get off on girl's clocking guys, and I get off on guys being scared shitless of muscular women LOL!
So come on, who out there is afraid for their own safety when they embellish themselves over the phone in the future?
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When you meet a girl for the first time, the less you can do, is to go to heardresser, wear cleaned clothes and take a shower before.
If you don't want to do that, it's completely normal that the girls refuse to meet you, no matter your physical aspect.
Being fit to be seen is a form of respect for the others.
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@ tyler - It's funny I have not done many sessions but it seems like I've been progressively more scared of getting my ass kicked and injured in every session I've done. About 10 years ago I was in my early 30's and in good shap, and thought I could at least hold my own in a competive match - but in my first session Diana Ball Ball absolutely kicked my ass so bad in a semi comp match it kind of shook my confidence. Several other girls easily mopped the floor with my after that and I came to realize I really would not stand a chance against anyone I've wrestled in a real fight, and it's gotten to the point where going into session is now a little intimidating. Even in my last session with Ms. Melissa - she was quite a bit shorter than me but her arms and shoulders are huge and all muscle, and it was clear she could flatten me at any time even though it was more of a light / fun match.
That being said - I'd love to find out who this girl is who had enough confidence in her strength to essentially start a real fight with this fat slob, and finish it by knocking out cold with one punch. I would definitely try to book a session with her ..... but I also definitely tell her that I don't own any McDonalds chains, I'd wash my hair, I'd iron my cloths, and just tell her I'm a total fatass before meeting her so the reality hopefully won't be as bad as my description.
Hopefully the girl will come forward - or if anyone sessions with a girl who mentions that she once KO'd a fat slob great greasy scam artist please post to this link. Alot of us would love to know who she is!
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Most of these girls are stronger than the average male. Also keep in mind that many of them have a background in hand to hand combat, which makes them even more dangerous. One example is Kelly Dobbins, who competes in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. There are many others with martial arts, wrestling, and boxing skills.
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I texted Amber and she said it wasn't her but was glad the guy got his ass handed to him. Going back to what an earlier poster said, yes most of these women are stronger than the average man. Then there are specimens like Amber and Fabi who are stronger than many strong men. Although my knees are shot and I can only squat 225 without my 57 year old kneecaps flying off like Chinese throwing stars, I can bench 315 x 5, and military 165 x 10, so at 235 lbs. I'm considerably larger and stronger than the average male. Fabi, a black belt and international competitor in judo folded me up like a cheap table cloth. Amber was in the Air Force so she has combat training; I've sessioned with her and I'm absolutely certain that if she cranked it up she'd be AT LEAST as dangerous as Fabi, especially since she's been lifting heavier recently to compete in strong woman contests.
Bottom line, go into a session and be a gentleman because unless you are some sort of strength competitor or high octane self-defense fighter, you stand a damned good chance of getting the snot bubbles beaten out of you if you purposely cross any boundaries.
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@MuscleHunter - Thanks for checking with Amber. I realize she's strong enough to pretty much kill somebody with a light jab ... but I was also thinking it's not really her style. If this guy pissed her off she would probably tell him off and then just choke him out. I did think of Fabi when I heard about this but ruled her out because the girls writing style leads me to believe she's American or Canadian. And yes .... I REALLY would not want to get beaten up for real by a session girl. Just getting out wrestled and roughed leaves me bruised and sore is painful enough.
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Hey imagine being set up and locked in a hotel room with Fabi, Amber and Brigita. Now imagine if they each got paid one million dollars to beat you senseless. How long do u think u would last???
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How long do u think u would last???
Oh gosh, honestly? If they took turns squeezing my noggin between their thighs at full strength, it would've be long before my head caved in like a busted canteloupe. In fact, it happen on the 1st attempt of one of those girls giving me a full strength headscissor.
But for shits and giggles, the other two girls would also want to earn their million dollars, so naturally they'd take my already caved in skull and just squeeze it even more while my disfigured face makes a squishing sound. The all three could like jump on my torso in joy after they know they have a million dollars coming their way. I'd be nothing more than just a dishonored floormat even though it was because of me that they are now set for life. No respect whatsoever *sigh*
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Has anyone checked with Cheyenne?
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Hey imagine being set up and locked in a hotel room with Fabi, Amber and Brigita. Now imagine if they each got paid one million dollars to beat you senseless. How long do u think u would last???
A quick question?
Do you mean locked in a hotel room with all 3 at once? If so I don't believe any person on the planet could last more than 30 seconds.
I don't know how this topic came up but I would like to hear other peoples opinions on something? I have gotten into real fights with guys who were bigger and stronger than I am. The majority of the time they ended up on the loosing end and I'm not a professional fighter. I also would never, at least willingly, get into a real all out fight with a female. If that situation did happen it would be hard for me to throw a full power punch. My point is if I were to clock an average 5'4" girl with a full power punch to the head/face they are probably going to get knocked out. Why would the outcome be any different with the same height fbb who has 50 lbs more muscle than the average girl.
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Why would the outcome be any different with the same height fbb who has 50 lbs more muscle than the average girl.
Because they would most likely dodge or block your punch successfully and then be very pissed after the fact. This would not be good news for a guy in your position, especially after they've witnessed that you're willing to throw punches at women with full force.
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I personally think the author was hans christian anderson
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Any think this might've been Sheila Bleck?
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Have not heard that it might be Sheila Bleck but I know she's a tough cookie so it's possible. What's funny is that this guy seems to have totally disappeared - absolutely no other complaints or warnings have been issued since one of these girls handed him his ass.
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Cuz he's tits up in one of Joe Pesci's pre-dug Vegas holes?? Heehee!
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This is an old news story linked on wb270's page:
Former jail warden shoots son, police say
Published Wednesday, January 31, 2001
WESTBURY, N.Y. (AP) -- A former prison official shot and critically wounded her son during an argument, police said.
Eileen Borenstein, 60, formerly a deputy warden at New York's Rikers Island jail, ordered her 26-year-old son Brian out of the house Monday after a series of confrontations over his alleged drug abuse and his use of her car, police said.
It ended when she shot him with her licensed .38-caliber handgun, wounding him in the arm and chest and hitting several major organs.
Brian Borenstein was in critical but stable condition at Nassau County Medical Center.
His mother, who retired in 1991 after 27 years with the city's Department of Correction, was charged with first-degree assault
And there's this description in wb270's notes:
Area's Lives/Sessions
Las Vegas, NV
Westbury, NY
Nassau, NY
5'9" 200lbs 36 - 40 y/o
sooo....I'd say HE'S LIKELY TO HAVE ISSUES WITH WOMEN OF POWER... :wow:
mugshot:
(http://www.mugshotsonline.com/listing/brian-j-borenstein/mug-shot-27529991.jpg)
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Judging by that mugshot, he definitely has issues. :tongue:
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Last time I saw a mouth like that it had an apple in it. "Ew!"
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I can confirm it was one of the wrestlers mentioned in the original post. She told me this storing during a session, and was like everyone is wondering who it was. She told me not to disclose it :)
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I can confirm it was one of the wrestlers mentioned in the original post. She told me this storing during a session, and was like everyone is wondering who it was. She told me not to disclose it :)
Well that narrows it down.
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I can tell you that that Tom guy posting posting in my progress thread, along with many other accounts, is a total scamming old ass pig. He had better hope that he never comes for a session, cause I saw him on cam and he will get what this woman wrestler gave this asshat (and then some) if he ever shows up.
Kudos to whoever she was.
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Shelly if you full on punched this guy in the face, he probably wouldn't wake up
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Shelly if you full on punched this guy in the face, he probably wouldn't wake up
Thanks wrassler1971....and you could be right....he might never wake up if a land a punch to face just right....say upper cut with the palm of my hand to the nose...if you get my drift?
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Very true, I was thinking more that some of us, self included, would enjoying seeing the knuckle prints right below the eye on the guy.... :-)
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yep. A funny thing came to be known to me about who this Tom Riley guy really was...he is the guy Pat that has plagued this forum for years banned again and again, according to the info I got from Admin about him.
He really does deserve a thorough beat down and not a KO off the bat. A nice slow breaking of bones and then ending with a KO to bust his old ass cheekbones.
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Anybody ever figure out who the girl was?
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Anybody ever figure out who the girl was?
There was a guy who said he knew who she was, but is not saying. Look early on in the thread.
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It was arekah, she koed him in 1 punch dragged him into hall an took his I.D. so he wouldn't tell anyone. She is total badass
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It was arekah, she koed him in 1 punch dragged him into hall an took his I.D. so he wouldn't tell anyone. She is total badass
guessing or you know?
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Not guessing. Thats why she is the legend. she didn't like hearing it was a big fbb, so don't think she will mind
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Not guessing. Thats why she is the legend. she didn't like hearing it was a big fbb, so don't think she will mind
So she told you this personally
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yes
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She has beaten up plenty of guys. We did a boxing fantasy match, she has alot of skill an speed an power. She is the baddest woman i ever met
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This sounds like the premise for a fun roleplay session. I might give it a shot, but only without the part about being a fat missing teeth slob or actually getting knocked out. If Arekah comes out of retirement, maybe I'll try it with her. :D
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That would be cool session. She would be the best at it. I was thinking mz haze might be good for that, she likes fantasy scenarios. She is probably 6"2 in heels an i think she is a badass. She has been a bodyguard. She is the only one i can think who is tall an might make it seem real. I'm sure there others
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That would be cool session. She would be the best at it. I was thinking mz haze might be good for that, she likes fantasy scenarios. I think she is a badass, she is probably well over 6 feet in heels an used to be a bodyguard. She is only tall one that might make it seem real. I'm sure there are others