Great comments Bettina and very much appreciated. Karma.

Funny...  My ex  who was a Pro..  Never slept,  loved to get drunk and later I found out was big into cocaine..   So much for the healthy theory

Yes you all would be surprised what goes on behind closed doors  - or should I say even in public. Drinking, drugs, unhealthy lifestyle is more common than you think. And with supplementation, the whole "health consciousness" proves to be bs LOL.

Yes you all would be surprised what goes on behind closed doors  - or should I say even in public. Drinking, drugs, unhealthy lifestyle is more common than you think. And with supplementation, the whole "health consciousness" proves to be bs LOL.

Well Bettina what about when they hit that pro status.....What would you say about how things turn out then? Is it possible for you to speak on that even though you are not a pro?

It's pretty plain to me just about every BB I see or have seen over a LONG time had building blocks that many people don't have...they could go to a gym and impress people.  Whatever comes after that, no discounting extremely hard work and dedication just comes, success at every level or failure.

Most of us work really hard at the gym and we're just average folk; what we're drawn to are the supernatural results BB's get and most of know how that happens but most of us would not be approached by someone to even pose the question of going to "another level."  Which is, of course, fine.

Really talented folks just had an edge to start with, be it bodybuilding or whatever.  Probably turned heads in the gym after their first month there.

Which is why we like you folks.  An unhealthy lifestyle, well...then you guys are lucky to get what you get pumping iron.  It kills our gains dead.

Thank you for exposing the lie that you can't be a competitive BB without having to resort to sessions/prostitution/porn.  Olympic athletes (the one's fighting to make the national squad and  get sponsorships) manage to make do without resorting to that stuff all the time.

Well, I have to comment on this because I am a bodybuilder and HAVE a great job, I am an optometrist, used to run my own optical business in Germany and now I am managing the optical department in an opthtalmology office here in the US. I'm also a foreign language correspondent. All this means that I have a great education and don't let my sport dictate my life like most of the girls do. I hate to say that but it IS true, you can't even have a decent conversation with bb, male or female (with very few exceptions) that  - God forbid - exceeds the realm of gym, training, dieting ...
My advice is get a damn education, stop scraping around, stop spending all your money, or let's say the money you are getting from whoever or through whatever "business" you do lol -  on your sport. AND GET A LIFE outside the gym! Stop obsessing, you are not becoming famous. If at all, you will get some kind of attention on message boards and within the little bubble of bb fans out there. Nothing wrong with that but don't let that get to your head and call your "profession" "NPC Athlete and Model" LOL. That is pathetic.
So yes guys, if you meet one of those, you will face what was described in the post earlier. Actually, that was spot on. Sad but true  -but the choice is yours after all.

I think this thread is extremely informative !!  Many years ago I was very friendly with a national level FBB -- she always had trouble making ends meet and was always in debt.  Her job made it hard for her to eat sleep and train. She didnt know what to do to make money and she started to think about sessions. She asked what I thought about her getting into the session scene and my comment was that it was her life and if she needed to do that to pay her bills then that is what she should do.  She kept asking me if becoming a session girl meant that she was going to be a prostitute -- my comment to her was if she charged money for sex then yes -- she would be a prostitute -- the word session girl didnt negate what she was really going to be doing. To make a long story short she did start doing sessions and it did get her out of debt and she actually makes quite a bit of money doing sessions -- now all she does are sessions and train -- no 9 - 5 job so I guess she accomplished what she wanted to but at what cost ?? 

I think this thread is extremely informative !!  Many years ago I was very friendly with a national level FBB -- she always had trouble making ends meet and was always in debt.  Her job made it hard for her to eat sleep and train. She didnt know what to do to make money and she started to think about sessions. She asked what I thought about her getting into the session scene and my comment was that it was her life and if she needed to do that to pay her bills then that is what she should do.  She kept asking me if becoming a session girl meant that she was going to be a prostitute -- my comment to her was if she charged money for sex then yes -- she would be a prostitute -- the word session girl didnt negate what she was really going to be doing. To make a long story short she did start doing sessions and it did get her out of debt and she actually makes quite a bit of money doing sessions -- now all she does are sessions and train -- no 9 - 5 job so I guess she accomplished what she wanted to but at what cost ??  

Why need there be a cost involved? It's important to remember that everyone doesn't hue to convention and some are willing to explore a side of themselves that others feel the need to suppress not because this is their deepest wish but merely to better fit in and conform to the expectations of others. FBB's flaunt convention by virtue of their very existence yet we, at least those of us in this community, would never support the mainstream narrative that they are freaks deserving to be ostracized. Yet we still feel the urge to censor how others may explore sexual possibilities with other consenting adults.

I think this thread is extremely informative !!  Many years ago I was very friendly with a national level FBB -- she always had trouble making ends meet and was always in debt.  Her job made it hard for her to eat sleep and train. She didnt know what to do to make money and she started to think about sessions. She asked what I thought about her getting into the session scene and my comment was that it was her life and if she needed to do that to pay her bills then that is what she should do.  She kept asking me if becoming a session girl meant that she was going to be a prostitute -- my comment to her was if she charged money for sex then yes -- she would be a prostitute -- the word session girl didnt negate what she was really going to be doing. To make a long story short she did start doing sessions and it did get her out of debt and she actually makes quite a bit of money doing sessions -- now all she does are sessions and train -- no 9 - 5 job so I guess she accomplished what she wanted to but at what cost ??  

Why need there be a cost involved? It's important to remember that everyone doesn't hue to convention and some are willing to explore a side of themselves that others feel the need to suppress not because this is their deepest wish but merely to better fit in and conform to the expectations of others. FBB's flaunt convention by virtue of their very existence yet we, at least those of us in this community, would never support the mainstream narrative that they are freaks deserving to be ostracized. Yet we still feel the urge to censor how others may explore sexual possibilities with other consenting adults.

What is needed for the sport is the right type of help for FBBs, so that they can find sufficient financial sources (other than by doing sessions and porn shoots) to fund their training and other BB costs.  This, in addition to actual sponsorship/creative funding from us fans etc, may include financial planning help for athletes who want it (I'm sure some of us here/other fans could help out on that front).  Then at least the athletes themselves can make a choice whether to do sessions etc, not forced by financial worries because they aren't able to make ends meet.

when i win the powerball ill finance a great show with real prize money and fly in the best girls . and no drug testing! with secondary awards " best biceps ,legs ,smile etc ..."   oh and all the girls will be extra nice to me  ahh when i win the powerball .....

@ UK
I don't necessarily agree on the quest for a sponsor...Maybe I am just a bit tougher on the subject, having gone through getting good education, working, moving on to optometry school for the master's degree, running my own business..Again, nobody said it is easy and it wasn't easy on me either. That is why I am hard on the girls complaining about not having money, "having " to do sessions , making it to being personal trainers at utmost...Get a damn education and stop being lazy. But then again, hate to say it but the majority are not the brightest bulbs so maybe they are stuck, I don't know. Too exhausting of a topic to discuss LOL.

@ kid
Well what I described was one of the after parties ....After the O...so much about the pros...And judging - and knowing ! -  from what it takes to get ready just for local or national shows (talking chemistry now ;-) I can only imagine what it takes to compete as a pro. That is actually why turning pro was never a goal for me, as weird as that sounds.

It's a shame that female bodybuilding is not financed enough.

I would love to see more shows and sponsorship. One in Manchester UK would be great.

The media needs to get over the shock and taboo certain expressive idiots have with female bodybuilders.
Unfortunately it's a select few that force opinion for an entire nation.