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  • #1 by kholloways on 19 Aug 2011
  • This was posted in the old Amazon.admirers.alt forum in 1996 by "Jacob."

    It is one of the funniest and very true things I ever read about the sport. Most men (and women) have little idea about how life with their Amazonian fantasy would really be like.

    Enjoy!




    There've been a lot of posts lately dealing with the perceived hostility between
    FBB's and their admirer's.  None have actually discussed life with an FBB should
    you be fortunate to establish a relationship with one.  Here's what you can
    expect.
    To begin with, you'll probably meet a non-pro FBB.  These women compete in the
    jr. amateur and amateur competitions, striving to get their pro card.  Two
    important points to remember here.  First, these women have to establish a
    pretty awesome physique to participate in amateur competitions.  Chances are
    your lady love will have been pumping 3 to 5 years or more just to get to this
    point.  Second, these are amateur competitions, we're not even talking an income
    yet.
    OK, you've met your lady love and are waltzing down the romance trail.  Now you
    discover that bodybuilding isn't a sport, an activity, or a hobby.  Bodybuilding
    is a lifestyle.  At the focus of this lifestyle are diet, excercise, and rest.
    These three activities will dominate your lady love's life, and yours by extension.
    Let's start with diet.
    What you eat, how much, and even when you eat are very important when you're a
    bodybuilder just for the health of it.  If you accept the lifestyle to compete,
    then your diet becomes even more important.  You'll notice immediately that your
    lady love EATS LIKE A FREAKIN' HORSE.  She eats and eats and eats and eats.   
    We're not talking pizza or mexican food here.  We're talking racks of broiled
    chicken, cans of tuna, sacks of rice, rice cakes, vegetable nibbles like carrots
    and celery and a whole slew of supplements that clog your shelves and empty your
    pocket book.  Every day, day in and day out.  Take her to dinner and you'll pay
    full price for a chicken plate, but all she'll eat is the chicken.  It's the
    only thing on her diet.  She'll eat can after can of tuna.  Not the fancy white
    albacore, the cheap greasy kind that's on sale 'cuz she'll eat a lot of it.  Be
    ready for tuna breath during your most intimate moments.
    So she eats like a pig.  Some guys have wives like that and all they have to show
    for it is a fat wife.  You count your blessings and move on.  Next you'll notice
    that she has to workout 3 to 6 hours a day, 4 to 6 days a week.  Tough to fit in
    this kind of workout on a 9-5 job (remember she's not making any money competing
    yet)  I might also point out that your lady love is probably a member of a gym,
    not a club.  Gyms are serious places, and you'd better expect her to be serious
    when she goes there.  Unless you participate in the bodybuilding lifestyle with
    your lady love you'd be better off not going with her.  No half naked girls on
    bikes.  No aerobicized butts all over the place.  Just a warehouse full of iron
    and the people who pump it.
    OK, OK.  You can handle the diet and the workout.  No problem.  But next you
    notice you lady love SLEEPS LIKE A FREAKIN' CAT.  This means she seems to sleep
    all the time.  It's true.  An integral part of bodybuilding is rest.  Without
    adequate rest to let the muscle rebuild you've wasted all you time and effort.
    She'll be taking naps every chance she gets.  On the one day off per week she
    might be able to spare, a lot of it will be spent in bed.  You might also notice
    during the week that she's "just too tired" to crush your head tonight.
    Now having an FBB for an SO is starting to wear a little thin.  She can't hold
    a 9-5 job 'cuz it gets in the way of her goals.  If your lucky she might be a
    personal trainer, or she might sell supplements and/or workout clothes.  If your
    unlucky she'll supplement her income with more seedy occupations.  Topless dancer,
    Femuscle for hire, or even (god forbid) video posing/wrestling.  She also won't
    have much time for chores like cleaning, shopping, and cooking.  Those will
    quickly become your chores.  YOU will have to make sure there's a stock of food
    for her to eat.  YOU will have to clean the living space, wash the clothes, etc.
    YOU will have to do the shopping.  If you didn't intend to be a slave going in,
    you'll be one soon enough.
    Some of you may be saying "So what?".  Well, you're right.  All the above can
    be quite tolerable for the most part if you develop a relationship based on love
    and trust.  But be prepared.  Most of you would find the Shmoos out there a
    little irritating.  Shmoos are nothig to the OTHER WOMEN that will be constantly
    hitting on your girl.  I hate to tell you this guys, but most the women who bother
    to peruse this newsgroup are here for the same thing you are - To see muscular
    women.  Believe me, a woman caught up in the frenzy of femuscle lust is out of
    control.  They'll hit on your girl right in front of you, and give you a smirk to
    boot.  Then you have the guys that are intimidated by female muscle.  They won't
    bother your girl, they'll bother YOU.  It seems the only thing these men hate more
    than women with muscle are the guys that love female muscle.
    Now your lady love is also on the make.  Not for love or sex.  No, she's after a
    sponsor.  Remember (I hate to keep bringing this up) she's NOT MAKING ANY MONEY
    YET.  It really costs a lot to be able to eat, excercise and rest in the quantity
    and manner required for a competitive bodybuildubg.  It also costs some pretty big
    bucks just getting to, spending some time at, and coming home from a competition.
    Costs, costs and more costs, and she still isn't making a dime off it.
    Well, enough drivel.  The point of all this is that loving an FBB can be tough.
    But all is not lost.  Anyone who frequents this newsgroup knows there are tons
    of FBB's out there.  ~Con~ alone posts pictures of dozens of FBB's every week.   
    Christ in a handbasket.  There are tons of muscular women out there.  Not FBB's.
    Just everyday women who pump iron 3 to 4 times a week just like us.  I saw no
    less than four muscle babes last Thursday.  One was on D/FW channel 5(NBC) local
    news.  Tall woman in her forties walking into Lamarr Highschool.  Flower print
    dress with half sleeves and a big bicep.  One was in the parking lot of the Tom
    Thumb in Irving.  Housewife leaning into the back of a Suburban.  Another flower
    print dress with calves the size of a softball.  In the Tom Thumb was a black
    girl in a summer dress.  This girl was simply covered with peaches.  Finally,
    there was a yuppie girl in a BMW.  One arm casually drapped over the back seat,
    and it was massive.  These women are all over the place.  I won't even mention
    the girls pumping iron at my "club".
    Think about this, guys. A woman doesn't have to have arms like Tina Lockwood to be
    desirable, nor does she have to live Tina Lockwood's lifestyle.  No matter what
    anyone says, I've been watching muscular women for decades, and many of them have
    never lifted weights in their life.
  • #2 by racerx009 on 20 Aug 2011
  • This rings so true. Karma.
    • racerx009
  • #3 by buddye on 20 Aug 2011
  • Most of those issues are not problematic of you're wealthy enough. That's my goal - get rich and find a hot fbb who wants a sugar daddy so she doesn't have to session, strip or pose nude. 
    • buddye
  • #4 by blumace22 on 20 Aug 2011
  • Hey buddy, wut part of dfw u see these girls at? I've lived in Dallas (but now I'm in denton) all my life n I think I've seen only 2 muscle girls my entire life. That's why its such a thrill 2 go 2 tha Europa.
    • blumace22
  • #5 by saradas1313 on 20 Aug 2011
  • the vice versa thing will be get loving fashion models ! ha ha ! there will be no spending money on her dinner. she will eat only 4 to 8 bread slices with less butter on it. there will be no chicken or fishes. she will earn lots of money. ha ha.
    • saradas1313
  • #6 by shedevilover2 on 20 Aug 2011
  • im sure its all true , but nothing about her insatable sexual desire or her me new girls to the bedroom
    • shedevilover2
  • #7 by UK_Fan on 20 Aug 2011
  • Sadly kholloways' post rings true to me as well -  we all (including myself) see female bodybuilders through "rose-tinted glasses" for the most part, up until we actually meet or read very in-depth stories about FBB's lives.

    Very occasionally, there are some VERY genetically-gifted ladies who don't quite need the all-encompassing bodybuilding lifestyle to have a high level of muscularity - I would say 1 in 100 FBBs at least.  They're probably the ones we're all on the lookout for - those who can have a "life" outside training/competing etc whom we could stand living with on a long term basis - essentially those who can "have their cake and eat it".

    As such, there aren't many of them around - especially if you take into account the likelihood that they are less likely to be interested in "average" men/schmoes (i.e. more likely male BBs/physically-strong men, or women [IMHO it appears that there are a higher percentage of bisexual & lesbian FBBs than in the general female population]).  Those who do happen to find one of these women will be VERY LUCKY men!
    • UK_Fan
  • #8 by luvbarbie on 20 Aug 2011
  • Well, I have to comment on this because I am a bodybuilder and HAVE a great job, I am an optometrist, used to run my own optical business in Germany and now I am managing the optical department in an opthtalmology office here in the US. I'm also a foreign language correspondent. All this means that I have a great education and don't let my sport dictate my life like most of the girls do. I hate to say that but it IS true, you can't even have a decent conversation with bb, male or female (with very few exceptions) that  - God forbid - exceeds the realm of gym, training, dieting ...
    My advice is get a damn education, stop scraping around, stop spending all your money, or let's say the money you are getting from whoever or through whatever "business" you do lol -  on your sport. AND GET A LIFE outside the gym! Stop obsessing, you are not becoming famous. If at all, you will get some kind of attention on message boards and within the little bubble of bb fans out there. Nothing wrong with that but don't let that get to your head and call your "profession" "NPC Athlete and Model" LOL. That is pathetic.
    So yes guys, if you meet one of those, you will face what was described in the post earlier. Actually, that was spot on. Sad but true  -but the choice is yours after all.
    • luvbarbie
  • #9 by UK_Fan on 21 Aug 2011
  • Well, I have to comment on this because I am a bodybuilder and HAVE a great job, I am an optometrist, used to run my own optical business in Germany and now I am managing the optical department in an opthtalmology office here in the US. I'm also a foreign language correspondent. All this means that I have a great education and don't let my sport dictate my life like most of the girls do. I hate to say that but it IS true, you can't even have a decent conversation with bb, male or female (with very few exceptions) that  - God forbid - exceeds the realm of gym, training, dieting ...
    My advice is get a damn education, stop scraping around, stop spending all your money, or let's say the money you are getting from whoever or through whatever "business" you do lol -  on your sport. AND GET A LIFE outside the gym! Stop obsessing, you are not becoming famous. If at all, you will get some kind of attention on message boards and within the little bubble of bb fans out there. Nothing wrong with that but don't let that get to your head and call your "profession" "NPC Athlete and Model" LOL. That is pathetic.
    So yes guys, if you meet one of those, you will face what was described in the post earlier. Actually, that was spot on. Sad but true  -but the choice is yours after all.

    Thanks Bettina for the very candid response - its nice to know there's still some "normal" (well-grounded) sounding female bodybuilders out there!  Did you come to the sport after you had made a career for yourself as optometrist?  It seems to do that is the best way to go (given the high financial cost of being a bodybuilder), and I suppose gives a clue why many the of the top pros these days are in their mid-late 30s and older - they've been able to balance bodybuilding with a life outside the sport as they didn't start training seriously until their late 20s at least.

    Its so sad seeing some of the very young women in the sport (in their late teens or early 20s) thinking they can suddenly "become" top pros in 5 years by taking huge risks (really heavy training without the quality [technique/knowing your body]/very high drug use/heavy involvement in the seedier side of the "money-making" activities in BB), but without any "normal life" (which would help in the psychological side of the sport) or financial stability behind them to help them.  When I see so many "burn out" by their mid 20s due to the above (including the effects of heavy drug use) without any meaningful gains, I think that its such a shame they've wasted their talents by starting too early.
    • UK_Fan
  • #10 by luvbarbie on 21 Aug 2011
  • Thanks UK for your comment. To answer your question, I did both at the same time, the sport and the education/job and yes it is not easy but absolutely doable. Doing it right now, cardio in morning, off to work, training at night.  I can also consider myself lucky because my husband is totally in this with me and loves what I do. He also trains, partly with a trainer, partly with me, he is my partner in crime in everything - just to mention one example, he had to wake me up every 2 hours in Vegas bc I had to carbload lol..We do the diet/cardio together, stop going out to restaurants a few weeks out etc etc...the list is long!
    We are also in a great position financially, my job I already mentioned, he is a surgeon. So we also have to attend a lot of social events. I am bringing that up because the majority of the bb,  female (and male) you could NOT bring to an event like that. I am bringing that up bc this time at the USAs I kinda looked around and thought "what else other than personal trainer could you possibly be" ...I know this board is into hugeness etc and that is totally ok but guys think about it for a sec, if you take them out of their bubble, how and in what position would they function in "real life"? I am not going to mention names but if you put some of them in a dress they look like TVs and even if nobody here admits it, they know it's true. Facial features included ;-)
    Most fbb are either total loners or have a bb partner and that is where the drama usually starts. Back to the bubble LOL.
    • luvbarbie
  • #11 by UK_Fan on 21 Aug 2011
  • Yep - I completely agree there - many female bodybuilder fans are in a sense treating ladies like yourself like film stars on one hand (adoration, building them up to be the perfect companion, solely based on how we see them at the best in photo/video) and porn models/prostitutes on the other (an object of lust to satiate the male desire for a "roll in the hay" as often as possible [even if a fantasy]).

    The reality of it is completely different as you've indicated and as kholloways initial posting.  Perhaps we should not raise our hopes of meeting the "ultimate woman companion" so we don't get disappointed when we discover they aren't the "utopian vision" or "sex object" that we want them to be.

    I must admit I was unsure what to expect when I met a couple of female bodybuilders (I had a standard "muscle worship" sessions with both Christine Envall and Colette Guimond some years ago now), and came away strangely unfulfilled - it wasn't that I wanted more from the sessions (e.g. sex, as some fans want), more that I'd rather just get to know such ladies as friends, and if I happened to hit it off with one who was single and reasonably "normal" (comparatively speaking), then all well and good.

    It's just a shame that the cost of meeting female bodybuilders is so high for those of us living in countries like the UK that have very few quality female bodybuilders and events to meet them at.  Even after all the above, I still have a small hope (many of us do I'm sure) that there may be some lovely woman bodybuilder whom I could enjoy a relationship with, even if its a long shot.

    Given my support for changes to the sport to help it thrive, (see my posts on the threads below)

    http://saradas.org/index.php?topic=143061.msg578074.html#msg578074

    http://saradas.org/index.php?topic=140203.msg567050.html#msg567050

    ...including much more co-operation/interaction between fans and competitors to ensure we get the most we can out of the sport, I am still hopeful that my positive stance will (eventually) get me noticed by some nice woman competitor, and...you never know!  Maybe Bettina if you know any FBB friends...only kidding! :)
    • UK_Fan
  • #12 by kid88833 on 21 Aug 2011
  • Thanks UK for your comment. To answer your question, I did both at the same time, the sport and the education/job and yes it is not easy but absolutely doable. Doing it right now, cardio in morning, off to work, training at night.  I can also consider myself lucky because my husband is totally in this with me and loves what I do. He also trains, partly with a trainer, partly with me, he is my partner in crime in everything - just to mention one example, he had to wake me up every 2 hours in Vegas bc I had to carbload lol..We do the diet/cardio together, stop going out to restaurants a few weeks out etc etc...the list is long!
    We are also in a great position financially, my job I already mentioned, he is a surgeon. So we also have to attend a lot of social events. I am bringing that up because the majority of the bb,  female (and male) you could NOT bring to an event like that. I am bringing that up bc this time at the USAs I kinda looked around and thought "what else other than personal trainer could you possibly be" ...I know this board is into hugeness etc and that is totally ok but guys think about it for a sec, if you take them out of their bubble, how and in what position would they function in "real life"? I am not going to mention names but if you put some of them in a dress they look like TVs and even if nobody here admits it, they know it's true. Facial features included ;-)
    Most fbb are either total loners or have a bb partner and that is where the drama usually starts. Back to the bubble LOL.

    From everything I gathered in this post and from your comments Bettina it would probably be best to go for either a muscular woman who doesn't compete at all (ex: a track athlete) or simply a muscular woman that can at least hold a decent conversation outside of talking on the subjects of the gym and training and all that. I am actually a dancer and could probably talk from sun up to sun down about dancing but I realize there are other things to talk about that go on in this world and there is actually more to life than dance and I can converse about plenty other topics as well no problem.

    It would really suck to say "Hey babe let's go out on a date" and she says "Sorry but you know Im only 4 weeks out. I've gotta get in round 2 at the gym. Im in the ZONE!"

    This is almost discouraging me from wanting to date an FBB a little bit but not necessarily in a bad way. I say that b/c its showing me that I need to be REALISTIC in seeing how alot of these women live their lives in order to get that pristine physique that Im so attracted to.
    • kid88833
  • #13 by goldbricker on 21 Aug 2011
  • I was always taught fantasy and reality are two different things.

    I don't have FBB "realities," just "fantasies."  Although I have to admit I would probably enjoy all the food prep and cooking...I cook for my girl all the time
  • #14 by luvbarbie on 21 Aug 2011
  • LOL UK I have to admit I stay away from other bbs.. I have one really good one but she is married so guess that is not much of a help to you lol.
    But you bring up a good point, interesting how almost NONE of the female bb that are being admired here actually respond to any of the posts. Might be that they don't know about the site so we give them the benefit of the doubt...still something to think about. And yes I hear you on your experience. General advice to everybody, try not to be "friends" with anybody you only know from online or in this case, from a session. The latter is purely business. I know of a few but one particular sad story where the man/fan thought he was friends with the girl and was horribly led on, emotionally and most of all, financially of course.
    It's the obsession. Yes, being admired and making them some kind of "celebrity" is getting to most peoples' heads. DON'T put us on a pedestal and make us some kind of VIP ...We are not.
    That is one thing. The other one is the obsession with bb itself, on other boards you see tickers like "286 days until show XYZ"  - all most bbs think about.
    Now, coming from me I might shed some light into the obsession since obviously none of the girls does...It has to do with having nothing else going on in your life. I unfortunately can relate to that because i spent wayyyy too many years with an idiot ex-husband lol who turned out to be getting into bb as well (without success ;-)..long story short I started to live my own life and getting ready for a show was a big deal, a goal to work towards because outside work and training , there wasn't much more. Not like now, having a great and fulfilling relationship with my soulmate, a great life, friends, social life etc etc, traveling. I even didn't care as much about my health as I do now (touching the chemical part of competing;-) so, in a nutshell, different components come into play.
    But again, I know it is hard but try not to see "the female bodybuilder" as some kind of wonder creature. UK, as you in your encounter, most of the time the "real deal"  - meeting them - is rather disappointing.
    • luvbarbie
  • #15 by luvbarbie on 21 Aug 2011
  • Good point Kid...It doesn't necessarily mean you have to rule out meeting a female bb with a life outside the gym, a job etc but the chances are low. And no, you should not restrain yourself from talking about /doing what you love (I think it's very cool what you do), she should accept that and give you all the time in the world to do what you want to , just as much as you would accept her training etc . However, my personal opinion is that unless you are a pro and make somewhat of a profit from your sport, there is NO need to train twice a day lol, I think that is overkill. But again, and someone mentioned that before, I think the biggest obsession you find in the ones chasing that "holy grail" aka pro card.

    Another point that hasn't been brought up here is that most female bb (again, the same accounts for the male bb but this is about the girls) just don't expand their sphere of social interaction to find/meet men with say some kind of degree, a good job etc. Not sure how many of you have attended bb shows but the crowd pretty much consists of what I call "Ed Hardy" crowd when it comes to men lol. Being bald, having tattoos is almost a must to fit in. If you talk to them, there is not much to talk about ;-), let alone what they do for a living. I hate being so dull but that is reality. Of course you don't want to hear about the guys but maybe in a way you do....It probably is less challenging for the girl to stay in the bb world than say meet one of you and face reality out there.
    Back to Kid's posting...It is important to have things in common but also to be very tolerant to the significant's other's interests, sports etc..If you can juggle that AND the counterpart can too (ideally for you a female bb) it will work.
    • luvbarbie
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