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Private Sessions => Talking about sessionettes => Topic started by: timothy1975 on May 02, 2014, 03:16:00 pm
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Just wondering how many of you have had that one bad out of many that aalmost turns you off sessions.
Mine without a doubt was Raven of Dallas about 10yrs ago..
Slight dissapointments:
Jana Linke-Sippl
Amber Black
Christine Envall
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By far Lena Voster from 1989. Either she forgot her deoderent or was one of those "earthy" types. Downright rank.
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Just wondering how many of you have had that one bad out of many that aalmost turns you off sessions.
Mine without a doubt was Raven of Dallas about 10yrs ago..
Slight dissapointments:
Jana Linke-Sippl
Amber Black
Christine Envall
Lauren Powers, gave me the vibe she barely tolerated me being with her. Plus getting a look at her Frankenstein style boobjob was a huge turnoff.
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1. Sharon Marvel. She actually showed up to the session FAT. I mean, almost obese. Not an ounce of muscle on her.
I said to her it was unacceptable, but I would pay her 1/2 the session fee for her trouble. She threw the money
I offered her in my face (classy!)
2. Gayle Moher: I saw her live at the WSE in NJ when she was first starting out (1995). She was AWESOME at that show,
a big, powerful bodybuilder with muscles that bulged with youth and vitality. I had a session with her 6 years later.
I couldn't believe the change (for the worse). Bad boob job, uneven muscular development, and worst of all, a startling
personality change. Where she had been sunny and optimistic before, she now appeared gloomy and morose. I learned
later she had suffered a terrible personal loss. I felt dreadfully sorry for her. But at the time I can remember kicking myself
for paying her so much money for a session.
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Just wondering how many of you have had that one bad out of many that aalmost turns you off sessions.
Mine without a doubt was Raven of Dallas about 10yrs ago..
Slight dissapointments:
Jana Linke-Sippl
Amber Black
Christine Envall
Christine Envall is a big surprise. IMO, when she is on, she has one of the best physiques in the world (and indeed, the history
of the sport). I'd kill to have a session with her. Why was yours such a dissapointment?
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By far Lena Voster from 1989. Either she forgot her deoderent or was one of those "earthy" types. Downright rank.
Had that experience with Fabi Antoine.
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Amber Black was a disappointment, just didn't seem real into anything, boring session.
I have had great and disappointing sessions with Milady.
Worst though was Leigha Locks. No strength and no idea what she was doing. I left early
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Lauren Powers. Oh, I knew better. It was just one of those times when nobody had been to town for awhile and I had money on my hands with nothing better to do. And even with those expectations it was still a disappointment. She started off a muscle worship session lying in bed, watching TV, not flexing or paying attention to me in any way. After a minute I said, "Hey! Time to work!" She thought that was hilarious. For the rest of the session, I felt like I was the one that had to entertain her. And I had the impression that she liked me. I can't imagine what she'd be like if she didn't.
Layla Lane, while not nearly as bad as Lauren, was still a major disappointment. I think like a lot of guys that remember her from when she was regarded as one of the best looking FBB's on the planet, I was hoping to see some of that. I had seen current pictures and knew that she had lost most of her mass, but it was still a shock. Even so, it still might have been worthwhile if she had been interesting to meet. Instead I got an hour of chain smoking, phone calls (she did ask if I minded), and hearing about her plans for becoming a wrestling diva. Shoot me!
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1. Sharon Marvel. She actually showed up to the session FAT. I mean, almost obese. Not an ounce of muscle on her.
I said to her it was unacceptable, but I would pay her 1/2 the session fee for her trouble. She threw the money
I offered her in my face (classy!)
2. Gayle Moher: I saw her live at the WSE in NJ when she was first starting out (1995). She was AWESOME at that show,
a big, powerful bodybuilder with muscles that bulged with youth and vitality. I had a session with her 6 years later.
I couldn't believe the change (for the worse). Bad boob job, uneven muscular development, and worst of all, a startling
personality change. Where she had been sunny and optimistic before, she now appeared gloomy and morose. I learned
later she had suffered a terrible personal loss. I felt dreadfully sorry for her. But at the time I can remember kicking myself
for paying her so much money for a session.
what was gayle's personal loss? i read somewhere her husband killed the guy she was cheating with, then commited suicide...this happened back in england i think before she was involved with bbing
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By far gabriella nicander.she has changed her name since ( doesnt surprise me)
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By far gabriella nicander.she has changed her name since ( doesnt surprise me)
I'm seeing her next week. Guess I hope "YMMV" plays into effect here :/
Will let ya'll know
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Lauren powers was the only session I've ever regretted. Total waste of money and time. She was half asleep, I think she was on something.
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Maria G and Darkside Milinda. Both so insanely hot, but reserved and boring in session.
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I saw Gayle Moher a couple of times two years ago. She was great in session, believe me. I guess I saw her at the right time.
Kordelia Devonshire was a disappointment, because I didn't do my homework. Only wrestling. Tatianna Butler. Gorgeous. Striking. But did little or nothing in session. Again, maybe I didn't do my homework.
No Layla Lane bashing here. Saw her five times in NYC from early 2000s to 2009. Quirky? Yes. One time it was a lousy session. The rest? Sexy and satisfying.
With many of the ladies I've seen when you leave you want.... more. When you think of it that's a good thing for them AND for you. (You'll return because you had a good time.)
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Chelsea Clark. Should've known something was up when she was still using early 90s photos in the mid 2000s.
Malibu was well worth seeing 20 years ago, but not currently.
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Off the top of my head Cheyenne jewel put very little effort into the session, Carissa Montgomery thinks she is a much bigger deal than she really is and isn't worth seeing for any reason. Layla Lane, trainwreck.
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My most disappointing session was with Lady Milady. I was impressed with her physique from the day her profile appeared on wb270 but on the day, the session was bad.
When we met, I wanted to do muscle worship and a type of belly punching role play. She seemed to indicate that was not problem in all communications but the session did not work out that way.
1. When she flexed her biceps, she got angry when I wanted to feel the power in them. She did do that, she explained. Gently stroking and massaging them is all she allowed.
2. Onto the role play. I explained the punches would be faked and not real. She would not do that either. I do no do that, she explained.
So I had to modify the role play to make it a more dominant belly punching role play which seemed to appeal to her. At some point, I wanted the hour to end and I think that she picked up on that because when her phone rang, she just answered it.
The session was a real waste of £200 but I leaned a valuable lesson. Be really clear on what you want and if the woman if unhappy to offer that, do not book the session. Also, while this does not happen too often, if the woman does not deliver on what was agreed over email, walk away. I normally know from the eye contact I make with the woman when she opens the door if the session is going to go well, but I would say if the session is really not going well in the first 5 - 10, it is better to leave.
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1. Sharon Marvel. She actually showed up to the session FAT. I mean, almost obese. Not an ounce of muscle on her.
I said to her it was unacceptable, but I would pay her 1/2 the session fee for her trouble. She threw the money
I offered her in my face (classy!)
2. Gayle Moher: I saw her live at the WSE in NJ when she was first starting out (1995). She was AWESOME at that show,
a big, powerful bodybuilder with muscles that bulged with youth and vitality. I had a session with her 6 years later.
I couldn't believe the change (for the worse). Bad boob job, uneven muscular development, and worst of all, a startling
personality change. Where she had been sunny and optimistic before, she now appeared gloomy and morose. I learned
later she had suffered a terrible personal loss. I felt dreadfully sorry for her. But at the time I can remember kicking myself
for paying her so much money for a session.
Sharon Marvel was a top notch bodybuilder in her day, but to continue to use old pics to represent her current condition is a fraud. If anything, you should have thrown something at her.
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When I met Christine Envall in 1998 I think I might have been her second session ever...so perhaps that led to the disappointment...the out of this world physique is worth the price of admission though if your into one of the most hardcore women in bbing.
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I agree to an extent about Cheyenne Jewel...she really knows her stuff and is stronger than expected. But some of the women like her. Who are living the professional lifestyle in sessions, photo and mainstreaam video tend to treat sessions as a business transaction at times rather than a unique experience given to the client. Do not blame her..it is what it is when you live it as a profession.
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I agree that Malibu has seen better days...I sessioned with her a year ago and it showed. But I see her as one of the pioneers of sessions and she really tries to give the experience to the client....hats off to her she respects the session
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Jana Linke Sippl was like your first screw that lays there like a log...I don't know maybe it was just lost in translation between us...she has an unreal physique but zero personality...
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3aven of Dallas was dirty...a bitch and after five minutes of semi_comp claimed she pulled her quad muscle and told me to leave her studio...I asked for pro rate...or maybe to ccome back at a different date..she said no...no money back and got up and walked out just fine...stole my money...
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I've told my Amber Black story before. Trip cancelled without notice, booked her on her return, appointment cancelled without notice, booked her the third time, wished she'd cancelled that one too.... Just a big, heavy, crushing girl, sitting on me, using her weight and not her strength.
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This is a great topic. These sessions are expensive and many sites don't allow negative reviews. We schools need to unite.
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Lady Milady was my worse one.
Nicole Bass was nice to me in the session but a total diapointment.
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Maria G and Darkside Milinda. Both so insanely hot, but reserved and boring in session.
That's an absolute shame. But are outrageously hot and I was hoping for better review. :'(
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Mallory Sin- good looking girl, made herself out to be a great wrestler but was average at best
Lauren Powers- worst one for sure
Sunfire bad attitude
Gayle Moher hot as hell but just laid there
Gabe- also hot and just laid there
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Captain, I had a good time with Gabe (only one session) and saw Gayle three times and all were great, hence me repeating. I could have caught them more on good days.
And about this site and allowing people to really do reviews - KARMA for that. I respect the ladies but for $300 or more you've got to have some knowledge of who you are seeing.
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Re: Mallory Sin. Seriously? Of all the women I have wrestled, she was one of the few who absolutely destroyed me almost instantly. I am no wrestler, but I would put her in the top A++ category with the likes Severa, Helen, Mayra, Arekah, Kara, Flexzee, Gabby, Raquel (Seattle), Cindy H., and Yasmin.
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Mallory Sin- good looking girl, made herself out to be a great wrestler but was average at best
Lauren Powers- worst one for sure
Sunfire bad attitude
Gayle Moher hot as hell but just laid there
Gabe- also hot and just laid there
Gayle Moher laid there while you did what? I have 3 sessions with her and she was up and about every time.
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Speaking generally the things I haven't liked in sessions...no one in particular.
1. A smelly box - cleaning a pussy and making it not smell like a camels arsehole couldn't be that hard
2. Bad Breath - ditto above
3. Bad Skin - get rid of any zits and have a bit of a tan
4. Out of shape compared to the photos - be honest
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To Pinme
I saw Mallory Sin and the next day Olga. They were traveling together. Olga the next day destroyed me I had no chance. As for the others you mentioned Flexzee, Mayra, Helen. they all crushed me as well. The others I have never seen.
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How interesting. Mallory Sin destroyed me. Olga could not beat me. Different days or different styles I guess.
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None of the disappointments almost turned me off sessions. But, honestly, I thought "What role did I play in this? What could I have done to prevent this?" and tried to learn from my mistakes. Layla Lane was the only disappointment I thought, "OK, totally NOT MY FAULT. She's deceptive, sour and not to be booked again."
Thea Bennington: A) don't schedule a session after a woman has just gotten into town after a long, multi-state car ride. B) If you have something very specific in mind, ask for it. From the first Thea photo I saw, the thought of having my head scissored in her enormous thighs brought shudders and sighs. I should've requested that instead of just hoping it would happen during our wrestling session.
Heather Fine (first session): Don't book in the last hour or 90 minutes of a woman's all-day availability. I could feel how tired Heather was and sensed I was getting only 60 or 70 percent of her usual. The next time I saw her, she was rested, strong and overwhelming.
Ann Marie via Deena Zarra: Ask what shape the woman is in or if the photos are current. If she lies or sends old photos, it's on her, but at least ask. The big, but sleek Ann Marie of WB270 profile and photos was about 40 pounds heavier. Not all fat, but definitely not all muscle, either.
Nicole Bass (last of 4 sessions): Trust your gut. We'd sessioned before, talked on the phone before and she didn't sound right when I phoned her that Saturday morning. Something said "cancel" but I went ahead. In session, she seemed lethargic and I wasn't shocked when she said she hadn't trained in six months. I think her husband's health problems were starting and taking a toll on her.
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None of the disappointments almost turned me off sessions. But, honestly, I thought "What role did I play in this? What could I have done to prevent this?" and tried to learn from my mistakes. Layla Lane was the only disappointment I thought, "OK, totally NOT MY FAULT. She's deceptive, sour and not to be booked again."
Thea Bennington: A) don't schedule a session after a woman has just gotten into town after a long, multi-state car ride. B) If you have something very specific in mind, ask for it. From the first Thea photo I saw, the thought of having my head scissored in her enormous thighs brought shudders and sighs. I should've requested that instead of just hoping it would happen during our wrestling session.
Heather Fine (first session): Don't book in the last hour or 90 minutes of a woman's all-day availability. I could feel how tired Heather was and sensed I was getting only 60 or 70 percent of her usual. The next time I saw her, she was rested, strong and overwhelming.
Ann Marie via Deena Zarra: Ask what shape the woman is in or if the photos are current. If she lies or sends old photos, it's on her, but at least ask. The big, but sleek Ann Marie of WB270 profile and photos was about 40 pounds heavier. Not all fat, but definitely not all muscle, either.
Nicole Bass (last of 4 sessions): Trust your gut. We'd sessioned before, talked on the phone before and she didn't sound right when I phoned her that Saturday morning. Something said "cancel" but I went ahead. In session, she seemed lethargic and I wasn't shocked when she said she hadn't trained in six months. I think her husband's health problems were starting and taking a toll on her.
Yeah LuvBig Chicks
Good tip...book the first session of the day ...not the last
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Just adding another Lauren Powers, she was big she was strong but she had zero personality watched television for at least half of the session I was there for I was so disappointed I left the session early.
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Krissy from ringmaster girls. Terrible personality, no skills at all, Smelled of cigarette smoke. Worst ever.
Big Tinah. Looked nothing like her pictures. Very week for a big girl.
Melissa Coates. Total train wreck.
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I wouldn't go as far as say she was the most disappointing I ever had in a session. In many ways, she was nice and I enjoyed being with her. The only problem was she made it very clear at the start of the session that she would not allow any release, which was somewhat of a disappointment. She was Laura Vukov in 1994. Still, after watching her in wrestling videos with Karla Nelsen, I saw her anyway.
After I was finished with my session with her, my balls ached and it wasn't from being kicked in the balls.
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Mallory Sin- good looking girl, made herself out to be a great wrestler but was average at best
Wow, surprised to hear this. Mallory, though not strikingly beautiful, was in great shape and very nice.
However, I stated "a fantasy wrestling and muscle worship session" to which she agreed. She was just
too over powering, like Amber, and can kick most guys ass's. The session was a waste of money, as far as
what I requested. If I remember correctly, Mallory was the first female MMA champ or somewhere along those lines.
This was years ago and Mallory has since retired. Amber's prices are thru the roof, so I look else where.
There are others who are more affordable if you look and research.
Now with that said, I always assume a "fantasy session" means that the "sessionette" is to be in control/win in a fun
and playful manner. Maybe I need to go into more detail in the description of my desired session, but there are many
women who are in it for the quick money and won't provide what you request. Let's face it, we are paying good money,
and we should get what we pay for and/or request. I use the videos posted on websites as a guide line.
Also, what is up with the "Extra money or tip requests"?
Is $300 -$400 an hour not good enough? and who charges $1000 an hour? No way!
Anyways, if anyone wants to see my list of "Disappointment Sessions" PM me.
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Orange County can you please expand on your session with Laura Vukov. I heard she really liked to put the hurt on people. What type of match was it? What did she wear? Did she look like her videos? Always was mad at myself for being to late on the wrestling scene and missing her.
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Orange County can you please expand on your session with Laura Vukov. I heard she really liked to put the hurt on people. What type of match was it? What did she wear? Did she look like her videos? Always was mad at myself for being to late on the wrestling scene and missing her.
She wore a two-piece bikini. At first she did posing and muscle worship. I got to touch and play with her muscles while she was posing. Then it went to competitive wrestling. She is very strong.
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Lauren Powers....was running way late (like 60+ minutes) so I even picked her up at the airport and got took her to the hotel, waited another 25 minutes until she was ready, then she just laid there for the session and had me give her a massage - no interaction, her talking on the phone, etc. I was just a young session boy at the time so wasn't very confident in discussing my dissatisfaction.
Colette Guimond...similar to other experiences. She wanted to talk the whole time, complain, and just have me barely feel her muscles.
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Onyx in Baltimore I had high hopes for, but disappointing as can be.
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From reading these reviews, its stunning to think what magnificent specimens both Melissa Coates and Colette Guimond
were when they first started out, and how they've just become these complete train wrecks. Its one thing to start out
a train wreck, it another to start with way more gifts than most and then inexplicably go out of your way to ruin your own life.
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I concur with the Onyx review. Her male cousin was in the room too, very fun huh?
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Lauren Powers. Like so many other comments in this thread - she was disinterested, put no effort in whatsoever and was a complete waste of time and money.
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1. Sharon Marvel. She actually showed up to the session FAT. I mean, almost obese. Not an ounce of muscle on her.
I said to her it was unacceptable, but I would pay her 1/2 the session fee for her trouble. She threw the money
I offered her in my face (classy!)
2. Gayle Moher: I saw her live at the WSE in NJ when she was first starting out (1995). She was AWESOME at that show,
a big, powerful bodybuilder with muscles that bulged with youth and vitality. I had a session with her 6 years later.
I couldn't believe the change (for the worse). Bad boob job, uneven muscular development, and worst of all, a startling
personality change. Where she had been sunny and optimistic before, she now appeared gloomy and morose. I learned
later she had suffered a terrible personal loss. I felt dreadfully sorry for her. But at the time I can remember kicking myself
for paying her so much money for a session.
what was gayle's personal loss? i read somewhere her husband killed the guy she was cheating with, then commited suicide...this happened back in england i think before she was involved with bbing
Gayle is a personal friend of mine and she was never "cheating" on her husband. Yes it did happen in England, she was in the process of divorcing her control freak of a husband, and waiting out the mandatory one year divorce period, when she ran into her old high school sweetheart. Once she moved in with her old boyfriend, the soon to be, psycho ex husband show up one night at their home with a gun. Thankfully, Gayle was able to escape! That unforgettable night still haunts her to this day! You guys have no clue what the women go through, what they put their bodies through, what they do to their hormones in order to create those awesome bodies. We just need to count our lucky stars they allow us horny pigs to admire and worship them, much less touch them! We all have our good and bad days, our ups and downs. So please show some consideration to these special ladies!!
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..... You guys have no clue what the women go through, what they put their bodies through, what they do to their hormones in order to create those awesome bodies. We just need to count our lucky stars they allow us horny pigs to admire and worship them, much less touch them! We all have our good and bad days, our ups and downs. So please show some consideration to these special ladies!!
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Yes we do. You don't have to have an interest in Fbb for long to at least "have a clue" about how hard it can be.(Training, eating, social, steroids, dedication, raw deal on the competitive side.) I know that is a standard "I-know-more-then-you-do," line but you are not talking to a crowd on the street gaping at a FBB as she poses for a video/photo shoot. And if you don't know how hard it is, go do a couple of sessions with a woman who competes and let her spend an hour venting. After that, you will leave the room feeling like you should have rolled up piece of paper in your hand
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Ditto re both Lauren and Colette. Same stories as below.
Had two other disappointing sessions due to the masculinized features of the women (body hair, razor stubble on face, voice, etc); they were very nice people, just physically not my cup of tea, so I can't blame them for my disappointment.
Lauren Powers....was running way late (like 60+ minutes) so I even picked her up at the airport and got took her to the hotel, waited another 25 minutes until she was ready, then she just laid there for the session and had me give her a massage - no interaction, her talking on the phone, etc. I was just a young session boy at the time so wasn't very confident in discussing my dissatisfaction.
Colette Guimond...similar to other experiences. She wanted to talk the whole time, complain, and just have me barely feel her muscles.
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MOST dissapointing was with a woman who wasn't a female bodybuilder, but I should have known better...Can't even remember the name.
Next most, was with Lioness. I think we got off to a bad start and I should have just left when that bad vibe happened. It wasn't very interesting.
Figure Power was a mixed session, in the sense that she liked the TV being on and that was annoying...oh and the whole having to wait a year after thinking she was going to run off with my deposit was annoying too.
As for sessions where I am like "Why am I doing this?" None really. I tend to usually pick well.
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I've got to be honest that even my worst sessions weren't that bad... but my least memorable sessions have mostly just been through lack of chemistry, just as my most memorable were when we just immediately hit it off.
My session with Lauren Powers was underwhelming, not because she was disinterested, although I can't exactly say she was massively into it. She just seemed so deeply in love with herself that my needs didn't enter the equation.
I literally bumped into Colette Guimond on an evening cruise from Sarasota and arranged to meet her for a session that night. The whole session she went on and on about a b/f of hers that cheated on her and eventually left her. I originally thought it must have just happened, but she eventually said that it was many years before. It was a massive turn-off hearing her drone-on about that for the entire hour.
Emma James aka 'Storm' and Gina Jones were other examples of women who I just had no chemistry with.
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What was wrong with Sunfire? :wow:
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Great thread. As someone mentioned, it is nice that instead of just applauding everyone, we are making people aware of whom to stay away from.
Luckily, the vast majority of the sessions that I have had were either pretty good or great.
Easily my biggest disappointment was Heather Fine of NYC. IT was awhile ago. While I didn't have a problem with her average looks and she was a good wrestler, the big problem was that she was more of a dom than a session wrestler.
The thing with the doms is that they are more into you pleasing them and making the session about them rather than making it about what we like.
She started out great with the role play for half the session but then the second half it was about her dominating me and veering off to what she was into. The worst part was that she was a clock watcher and at exactly the hour, that was it despite the fact that I hadn't finished yet if you know what I mean. Part of the problem also was that she was so rough with me, it was tough to get turned on the way I usually do. Too bad because she had a lot of potential because she did get into it real well as far as the role play.
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Heather Fine, ugly and lazy
Malibu, well past it and weak
Nicole P, stank of cigarettes and quite a prude compared to her XXX website
Mistress Xena, a dominatrix from Harrow On The Hill in the UK, conceited and useless
But the gold medal goes to Lauren Powers, ugly, lazy, boring, thick and what a lop sided boob job.
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1. Sharon Marvel. She actually showed up to the session FAT. I mean, almost obese. Not an ounce of muscle on her.
I said to her it was unacceptable, but I would pay her 1/2 the session fee for her trouble. She threw the money
I offered her in my face (classy!)
2. Gayle Moher: I saw her live at the WSE in NJ when she was first starting out (1995). She was AWESOME at that show,
a big, powerful bodybuilder with muscles that bulged with youth and vitality. I had a session with her 6 years later.
I couldn't believe the change (for the worse). Bad boob job, uneven muscular development, and worst of all, a startling
personality change. Where she had been sunny and optimistic before, she now appeared gloomy and morose. I learned
later she had suffered a terrible personal loss. I felt dreadfully sorry for her. But at the time I can remember kicking myself
for paying her so much money for a session.
what was gayle's personal loss? i read somewhere her husband killed the guy she was cheating with, then commited suicide...this happened back in england i think before she was involved with bbing
Gayle is a personal friend of mine and she was never "cheating" on her husband. Yes it did happen in England, she was in the process of divorcing her control freak of a husband, and waiting out the mandatory one year divorce period, when she ran into her old high school sweetheart. Once she moved in with her old boyfriend, the soon to be, psycho ex husband show up one night at their home with a gun. Thankfully, Gayle was able to escape! That unforgettable night still haunts her to this day! You guys have no clue what the women go through, what they put their bodies through, what they do to their hormones in order to create those awesome bodies. We just need to count our lucky stars they allow us horny pigs to admire and worship them, much less touch them! We all have our good and bad days, our ups and downs. So please show some consideration to these special ladies!!
White knight alert here! They could just as easily go out like everyone else, and get a real job, and see how "easy" that is. You think building bridges, cleaning disgusting toilets, working a 9-5 at Mcdonalds, while getting paid nothing is a lot easier to do?
I have you know I train just as hard as these ladies do, but no one is paying me a dime for it. I lift weights, play sports, do all this stuff, because I love to do it, not cuz i have too. I wouldn't mind getting paid for it, instead of having to work a sh.itty job like most others do.
Basically I have bad days too, so if I go and take it out on my customers u think that is acceptable? No I have to be professional, so please save this poor, females have it so hard bs for someone else.
I don't count any lucky stars, and I sure as hell aint worshipping them, its not like they have brought world peace, or cured all diseases, to be worshipped. They have a choice to do what they want to, and if they don't like seasoning, or bodybuilding then don't!
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1. Sharon Marvel. She actually showed up to the session FAT. I mean, almost obese. Not an ounce of muscle on her.
I said to her it was unacceptable, but I would pay her 1/2 the session fee for her trouble. She threw the money
I offered her in my face (classy!)
2. Gayle Moher: I saw her live at the WSE in NJ when she was first starting out (1995). She was AWESOME at that show,
a big, powerful bodybuilder with muscles that bulged with youth and vitality. I had a session with her 6 years later.
I couldn't believe the change (for the worse). Bad boob job, uneven muscular development, and worst of all, a startling
personality change. Where she had been sunny and optimistic before, she now appeared gloomy and morose. I learned
later she had suffered a terrible personal loss. I felt dreadfully sorry for her. But at the time I can remember kicking myself
for paying her so much money for a session.
what was gayle's personal loss? i read somewhere her husband killed the guy she was cheating with, then commited suicide...this happened back in england i think before she was involved with bbing
Gayle is a personal friend of mine and she was never "cheating" on her husband. Yes it did happen in England, she was in the process of divorcing her control freak of a husband, and waiting out the mandatory one year divorce period, when she ran into her old high school sweetheart. Once she moved in with her old boyfriend, the soon to be, psycho ex husband show up one night at their home with a gun. Thankfully, Gayle was able to escape! That unforgettable night still haunts her to this day! You guys have no clue what the women go through, what they put their bodies through, what they do to their hormones in order to create those awesome bodies. We just need to count our lucky stars they allow us horny pigs to admire and worship them, much less touch them! We all have our good and bad days, our ups and downs. So please show some consideration to these special ladies!!
White knight alert here! They could just as easily go out like everyone else, and get a real job, and see how "easy" that is. You think building bridges, cleaning disgusting toilets, working a 9-5 at Mcdonalds, while getting paid nothing is a lot easier to do?
I have you know I train just as hard as these ladies do, but no one is paying me a dime for it. I lift weights, play sports, do all this stuff, because I love to do it, not cuz i have too. I wouldn't mind getting paid for it, instead of having to work a sh.itty job like most others do.
Basically I have bad days too, so if I go and take it out on my customers u think that is acceptable? No I have to be professional, so please save this poor, females have it so hard bs for someone else.
I don't count any lucky stars, and I sure as hell aint worshipping them, its not like they have brought world peace, or cured all diseases, to be worshipped. They have a choice to do what they want to, and if they don't like seasoning, or bodybuilding then don't!
Well said
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Lauren Powers, don't waste your money. She watched the clock and it seemed to be a huge pain for her to do a session.
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Dayana Cadeau. Possibly due to high expectations but she basically spent the 40 minutes, (yes i left at about 40 minutes), telling me what she DIDN'T do. Thanks.
And what shadowspider said x1000.
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1 - Colette Guimond
2 - Carmela Cureton
3 - Amazon Amanda (nice person, though ; I have met her at her very beginning, and she was still very shy and cold)
4 - Lisa Cross
I think I have been very lucky with Lady Milady (aka Ms Reina) : not one of my best, but good session, very sensual, very active, good mood, funny. I have read so many bad reviews about her...
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I had a session with collette guimond a few years ago; it was my first time doing one and I was soooooo disappointed with it; she spent the whole time whining about other women and other things; I barely got a chance to touch her; I wasn't sure what to do; she just kept going on and on; she kinda seemed like I was there just to hear her whine when I was the one paying money to see her
luckily, I have had other sessions with other women and they were must more enjoyable
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Your first session was disappointing. It might have convinced me not to do them again.
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After the session with Colette, I decided to do another session with other women; luckily, they were very warm and friendly and made it about me, instead of themselves.
I have thought about doing another session with collette, but cant bring myself to do it yet
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Whats wrong with Jana?
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Taz zie C , booked a lift and carry session, absolute zero were performed
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What about Shannon Dallas Hall?
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What about Shannon Dallas Hall?
3 great sessions with her, note that lifts aren't really my thing. She put me on her shoulders once I think.
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My most disappointing was my latest session (during the summer lull in Covid). I hesitate to name names, even though that is what this thread is about, as this person is an active traveler. She booked a crappy hotel, her physique was not in near top shape and she had some surgical issues that limited her exposure. Items that were on the menu the last three times I saw her were unceremoniously dropped and I was chastised for even bringing it up. It was too bad but I chalked it up to the nature of the game.
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@buckyboy Did she happen to retire for a bit and come back? I am friendly with a sessionate who retired and then came back for a bit after she had some money issues. She freely admitted to me she was awful in her second run. Was not into it at all as she felt like once she retire she would never have to again but then life bounce the wrong way for her therefore felt like she was force to make some quick cash and dig herself out a hole not of her making. I definitely being a sessioniate your heart has to be in. You really cannot fake it and if you do, your client list will shrink quickly.
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A good topic. And I appreciate that we're allowing each other to have different opinions. For example I had a great session with Malibu, but I'm not going to argue with the guy who was disappointed.
My not so good list:
Desiree Ellis - upselling me in the middle of a session, talk about a mood killer
Gayle Moher - spent the session watching the TV, wasn't really clean
Jana Linke-Sippl - spent most of the session complaining about the airline damaging her luggage
VeVe Lane - she is an insanely talented wrestler but we just didn't hit it off - not saying it was her fault
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A good topic. And I appreciate that we're allowing each other to have different opinions. For example I had a great session with Malibu, but I'm not going to argue with the guy who was disappointed.
My not so good list:
Desiree Ellis - upselling me in the middle of a session, talk about a mood killer
Gayle Moher - spent the session watching the TV, wasn't really clean
Jana Linke-Sippl - spent most of the session complaining about the airline damaging her luggage
VeVe Lane - she is an insanely talented wrestler but we just didn't hit it off - not saying it was her fault
As you say, we can't argue because each experience is different from the other one, and everyone's taste, fantasy is specific. Also, the mood of the session woman and the alchimy between 2 persons are points that might be important.
My session with Gayle Moher was not one of my best, but it was pleasant : she was involved, professional, sensual and also good looking.
Jana was very pleasant as a person. But she did not really fit with my own fantaisies (I met her maybe 20 years ago, so she was at her best).
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For me, it was Amazon Hanna.
I had emailed her a very detailed review of what I wanted in our semi-competitive session. At that point in my session life, I had never met anyone as big as she purported to be.
When I got there, she had no interest in wrestling. She proceeded to "show" me BJJ holds. She said, here, I'm going to show you a rear naked choke. She asked me to sit down, got behind me and choked me. No pressure and then said, OK, that's the rear naked choke. And on and on like that it went.
After 20 minutes, I exited, angry at myself for not pushing her to do more and angry at her for basically taking my money under false pretenses.
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Renne Toney . . . because, ass that I am, for some reason I thought that in person she would look less like Ricky Williams. Not her fault, she was pleasant enough . . . my fault for not recognizing the gender-blurring which totally threw me off.
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Renne Toney . . . because, ass that I am, for some reason I thought that in person she would look less like Ricky Williams. Not her fault, she was pleasant enough . . . my fault for not recognizing the gender-blurring which totally threw me off.
I'm not a fan of Renne Toney, I found her to be impersonal and less than fully involved in the session. But what you got against Ricky Williams?
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Renne Toney . . . because, ass that I am, for some reason I thought that in person she would look less like Ricky Williams. Not her fault, she was pleasant enough . . . my fault for not recognizing the gender-blurring which totally threw me off.
I'm not a fan of Renne Toney, I found her to be impersonal and less than fully involved in the session. But what you got against Ricky Williams?
Yo, CrayCray! LOL! Nothing against him; a fine running back . . . but I'd never want to wrestle him with no duds on . . . turns out RT is now in that same category . . . but that's just me. To each his own! ;)
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Maria Calo, many years ago. My second ever session, from the moment I walked in the door it was like I didn't even exist. She just sat there, no conversation even. It could have put me off sessions for good, but fortunately my first session had been with Lora Ottenad and it was great. So I knew what a good session could be like.
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Maria Calo, many years ago. My second ever session, from the moment I walked in the door it was like I didn't even exist. She just sat there, no conversation even. It could have put me off sessions for good, but fortunately my first session had been with Lora Ottenad and it was great. So I knew what a good session could be like.
So interesting! I had a session with MC years ago and it was GREAT!! It took a bit of work to get by the sides, but WHAT a body!! No FS, but pretty much let me do what I wanted and accommodated me with the occasional reminder that she was about 5x stronger than I was. LOL!! But sessions can vary greatly in their quality, and yours is not the first complaint I've heard about her, but my session was A1.
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Saw Maria also years ago- she was nice- but kind of shy and not that outgoing - I don’t think she was 100% comfortable with sessions
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I had an amazing session with Maria. She was not crazy outgoing, but was extremely sensual and we were able to joke and laugh together. She was built like a tank and crazy powerful, and maybe I was lucky because we clicked but we had well a lot of very sensual naked fun.
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I also went a few great rounds with Maria, she was always attentive and seemed eager to play her role, if that wasn't a bit of the hreal her coming through anyway.
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I too always had great sessions with Maria since day one she was always good. Maybe she tries to feel you out when you first meet her but once you get to know her you always will have a great session and she will treat you well
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In August of 2020, I had exchanged a few pleasant emails with Emma Erotic. She was going to be visiting Tampa and Orlando, I was ready to schedule a scissors session. It appears Emma decided to retire from session wrestling in the blink of an eye. Deleted her email and Session Girls profile. Emma told me she was trying enter the pro bodybuilding circuit, so maybe that’s why she left session wrestling scene so abruptly. I was disappointed our scissors session never to place.
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Amazon Hanna. Amazon Hanna was my most disappointing session because, to start, her pictures were a bit deceptive. She was a lot…chubbier in person than her pics suggested. And while I knew she was a trained grappler, she went through the motions in a very lethargic way. She half-heartedly put me in holds without putting any pressure, gave me weak punches to my stomach, and it just wasn’t fun. She just seemed out of it.
Also, her dog chewed on my shoes.
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Also, her dog chewed on my shoes.
(https://gifer.b-cdn.net/static/media/empty-uploaded.9f426921.webp)
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Also, her dog chewed on my shoes.
(https://gifer.b-cdn.net/static/media/empty-uploaded.9f426921.webp)
LMAO!! That was my reaction!
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Also, her dog chewed on my shoes.
Did the dog have an opinion of your shoes as a chew toy? He might have been disappointed too, which would make the session double disappointing. ;)
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Lora O in the last year or so.
She used to be wonderful.
Now….talks and vapes the entire time.
Was a huge turn off for me.
People change.
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College Guimond, Gabrielle Nicander. They were both literally annoyed the whole session.
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I’ve had good sessions with Lora recently - agree about Gabe though - completely disinterested in the session
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Maria Calo, many years ago. My second ever session, from the moment I walked in the door it was like I didn't even exist. She just sat there, no conversation even. It could have put me off sessions for good, but fortunately my first session had been with Lora Ottenad and it was great. So I knew what a good session could be like.
So interesting! I had a session with MC years ago and it was GREAT!! It took a bit of work to get by the sides, but WHAT a body!! No FS, but pretty much let me do what I wanted and accommodated me with the occasional reminder that she was about 5x stronger than I was. LOL!! But sessions can vary greatly in their quality, and yours is not the first complaint I've heard about her, but my session was A1.
I'm glad you and the others who have posted their stories had good experiences with Maria. She did have a phenomenal physique, no doubt. Just further confirmation of how true "YMMV" is!
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I've only had two sessions that weren't great, for different reasons.
I saw Amazon Nikki in 2019. We did not click at all from the start. It was just awkward and clunky. Nothing wrong with anything, we just didn't hit it off. Always considered seeing her again but just hasn't worked out. In face shes going to be near me next month, but I'll be out of town. I don't know.
I saw Lora O. in 2019 as well. I booked her for 90 minutes. The first 45 was a whirlwind of sensuality and muscle. Amazing time. The last 45 minutes was her ranting about random life stuff. I will eventually see her again, but I'm thinking 60 minutes would be appropriate.
Honestly I consider myself lucky in sessions. I've had a few dozen since March 2019 (my first) and have only had those two not great experiences. I've have one deposit stolen, but that's another story all together. And have met some amazing women along the way.
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Between 1995 and 2013, I had a bunch of sessions with Lora, and they were all spectacular; however, I did learn early on that if I gave her a verbal opening, she was likely to spend quite a bit of time berating IFBB judges, dipshit schmoes, and other of life's challenges. I realized that I had to jump on the bed, grab her, and just start tussling, all of which she seemed to be fine with. Our sessions always concluded with me giving her Rand-McNally relief map of a back a vigorous massage followed by a can-ride. She was a pretty heavy smoker back then and the smell of the room was often off-putting, but once we got tussling, all that was forgotten.
Well, I guess this doesn't qualify for this thread . . . I do prattle on. ;)
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Funny one mans trash is another mans treasure. I note poor outcomes here with many girls where’s others have had a great time. That’s why the term YMMV came about. Gayle, Maria, Jana, Gabe, Deb…had great sessions with all of them. Always clean, always enthusiastic and always came away thinking I have just had a great few hrs with one of the hottest top .001% of women in the world and we all had a good time. If they were acting better send an Oscar. Biggest issue had been Debs emails are pretty slow but when she sucks cock as enthusiastically like she does she could communicate by pigeon or Morse code and I would forgive her.
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I would give Amazon Nikki another chance - I forget when she started - probably 2018-19 but my first session was also a little awkward - she was new to sessions - but she has got them better since then
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Lora O - Smelled like cigarettes
Allana Muscle- Terrible hygiene and very offseason
Layla Lane- Talked through out and just wanted to do WWE style holds.
Musclebunny- Just didnt click it was awkward for most of the session
Larissa Reis- young sexy gorgeous asf (prior to any work done on her face) but language barrier made it awkwars.
Carmella Cureton - Saw her twice thick muscles with extras but totally uninterested both times.
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Lora O - Smelled like cigarettes
Allana Muscle- Terrible hygiene and very offseason
Layla Lane- Talked through out and just wanted to do WWE style holds.
Musclebunny- Just didnt click it was awkward for most of the session
Larissa Reis- young sexy gorgeous asf (prior to any work done on her face) but language barrier made it awkwars.
Carmella Cureton - Saw her twice thick muscles with extras but totally uninterested both times.
Interesting. Recently saw on TV, Larissa Reis runs a restaurant in Las Vegas with her husband I guess.
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checking out her social media was a mistake.
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Have been seeing Amazon Nikki since she first started and yes, she's "come a long way, baby" as one of the most well known ad campaigns would say :hey:
Just saying...
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Have been seeing Amazon Nikki since she first started and yes, she's "come a long way, baby" as one of the most well known ad campaigns would say :hey:
Just saying...
Nikki took a lot of coaching our first time. Being 6 feet tall meant I was willing to give her another chance (what can I say, life's not fair) and later sessions have all been really good. I don't think she's naturally dominant so it took her a while to learn to pretend.
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Bulk...I think you "nailed it"!!! But, I'm not so sure she's pretending these days...all I have to do is look into her eyes and there is that certain "glimmer" AND the "smirk" on her face is also pretty telling >:D :cool2:
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On principle, I never talk about "most disappointing" appearances, I prefer "most outstanding". The most outstanding, of course, were the very few "no shows".
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On principle, I never talk about "most disappointing" appearances, I prefer "most outstanding". The most outstanding, of course, were the very few "no shows".
nice
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Funny one mans trash is another mans treasure. I note poor outcomes here with many girls where’s others have had a great time. That’s why the term YMMV came about. Gayle, Maria, Jana, Gabe, Deb…had great sessions with all of them. Always clean, always enthusiastic and always came away thinking I have just had a great few hrs with one of the hottest top .001% of women in the world and we all had a good time. If they were acting better send an Oscar. Biggest issue had been Debs emails are pretty slow but when she sucks cock as enthusiastically like she does she could communicate by pigeon or Morse code and I would forgive her.
There is some truth to that. A lot really has to do with chemistry. I when with a few that have rave reviews and while I had a really good time with them, it wasn't speculator. Meanwhile I had the popsite happen where I sessioned with a few that had good but not great reviews that I had fabulous sessions with it. One in particular had a few medicore reviews but my session with her that was absolutely speculator! You just don't know how you are going to mesh until you both stripped down to your underwear and start rolling around on the mats/floor.
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checking out her social media was a mistake.
Who?
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checking out her social media was a mistake.
Who?
larissa reis
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checking out her social media was a mistake.
Who?
larissa reis
What about Larissa's social media made it a mistake?
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Looks like Larissa is happy with her family. It’s interesting to see fbbs/fitness who are single and those who are married with families. The ones with families always seem to be more content/happy with life. Must be quite scary to be a Fbb, lady in your 40s and have no partner/family. Some of them act very strange on social media.
People are strange on social media regardless LOL! I do see your point though and it generally seems true. The life of a female bodybuilder/fitness model is so difficult and it's hard to keep at it. And let's face it, staying on top aka making good money is really difficult as younger hot female bodies come up every year. I do think perhaps having a life outside of it cushions that blow and also makes them be well rounded.
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checking out her social media was a mistake.
You could say that about almost every bodybuilder it seems to me. At least the vast majority. I dig the muscle, but they've fallen into a very weird sub-culture, cartoonishly libertarian, anti-vax, anti-tax, anti-gov't, etc. I suppose it has something to do with they're lives kinda revolving around illegal use of drugs which are designed to alter the reality of their own natural physical limits. I've thought about doing some research and writing about it.
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Would have to say Nikki Jackson - was in New York on a Saturday for something else and she was in town - first she pushed back the session several hours - but I said ok - then I’m walking to session and she asks for another 30 minutes- then she cancels- says not feeling well - this is probably about 7 or 8 pm - original session was probably 3 or 4- but if not feeling well - I understand - drive home - I notice next morning on her social media that she posts about going out on the town that night - and then to top it off- not realizing I knew that she had lied about the reason for the cancellation she texts me Sunday morning to see if I still want the session
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If I remember right Nikki was one of those who started out great in the business and had a lot of good early feedback but then pulling shenanigans that annoyed clients and got worse there including from what I read canceling sessions but not give back the deposit. From my understanding she had some substance abuse issues though I cannot aqy that for sure as I was never a client. I sessioned with Megan Avalon who was fucking great and at one point offer a 2-1 with her and Nikki jut for some reason it didn't interest me. I wonder since she was with Megan she would been good and might been worth it but again sessioning with Nikki never interest me that much for whatever reason.
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If I remember right Nikki was one of those who started out great in the business and had a lot of good early feedback but then pulling shenanigans that annoyed clients and got worse there including from what I read canceling sessions but not give back the deposit. From my understanding she had some substance abuse issues though I cannot aqy that for sure as I was never a client. I sessioned with Megan Avalon who was fucking great and at one point offer a 2-1 with her and Nikki jut for some reason it didn't interest me. I wonder since she was with Megan she would been good and might been worth it but again sessioning with Nikki never interest me that much for whatever reason.
She was on my list of most wanted sessions but I think she's out of the game. Even in her ultra thick phase like she is now.