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Private Sessions => List of fantasies / Specialities discussion => Topic started by: WrestlerD on November 21, 2012, 12:59:46 pm
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I am a fan of being knocked out via chokes or scissors during wrestling sessions and wanted to start a discussion as to which ladies have knocked you out in a session. My number of women who did so, and some more than once, recently grew to 8 and those ladies are as follows:
Debra Deandrea
Yasmin
Sybil Starr
Gia Primo
KO (kourtney Olson)
Amber Black
Mutiny
Toned Tommi
Thanks in advance for sharing.
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I love to be koed during sessions.
Here's my list
kordelia Devonshire
Cheyenne jewel
Jenifer Thomas
Toned tommi I hope to see next year.
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Gia Primo is the only one to knock me out... I ususally tap before that happens
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Chris:
How did those three ladies get their knockouts? I have been interested in meeting all three. Tommi was able to knock me out without much effort or pain. I asked her to and she had no problems trying.
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Great topic. I always think I want a KO, until it is time for the rubber to meet the road. Kordelia Devonshire is the only planned KO I have encountered. I was KO'd on two different occasions by local dominatrixes purely by accident. If I ever get the opportunity to see Yasmin again I would like for her to put me out.
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Kris Clark. I was KO'ed whilst DATY. Awesome!
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Cap, which two local ladies? They still active in Chicago?
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Cap, which two local ladies? They still active in Chicago?
No longer active. It was a long time ago. Think The Fortress Beyond a couple locations and name changes ago.
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I've only sessioned once and thankfully got KO'ed
Kathy Gifford on a RNC .... but that happened because I didn't tap on time , do not ask her to do it , she won't do it willingly
greetings
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Here's my list:
Gina Jones via RNC
Scarlett via Reverse Head Scissors
Naadia via RNC
Baby Blake via figure four head scissors
Electra via Reverse Standing Head Scissors
Christine Marshall via reverse head scissors
Others always seemed to let me out just in time...
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Here's my list:
Gina Jones via RNC
Scarlett via Reverse Head Scissors
Naadia via RNC
Baby Blake via figure four head scissors
Electra via Reverse Standing Head Scissors
Christine Marshall via reverse head scissors
Others always seemed to let me out just in time...
Electra who?
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Here's my list:
Gina Jones via RNC
Scarlett via Reverse Head Scissors
Naadia via RNC
Baby Blake via figure four head scissors
Electra via Reverse Standing Head Scissors
Christine Marshall via reverse head scissors
Others always seemed to let me out just in time...
Electra who?
(http://img28.imagevenue.com/loc40/th_608955498_electraNV8_122_40lo.jpg) (http://img28.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=608955498_electraNV8_122_40lo.jpg)
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Only once and never requested it, but was KO'd by Sondra Faas, fig 4 scissor. Probably my best session ever.
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Here's my list:
Gina Jones via RNC
Scarlett via Reverse Head Scissors
Naadia via RNC
Baby Blake via figure four head scissors
Electra via Reverse Standing Head Scissors
Christine Marshall via reverse head scissors
Others always seemed to let me out just in time...
Electra who?
(http://img28.imagevenue.com/loc40/th_608955498_electraNV8_122_40lo.jpg) (http://img28.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=608955498_electraNV8_122_40lo.jpg)
Yep, that's her!
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Chris:
How did those three ladies get their knockouts? I have been interested in meeting all three. Tommi was able to knock me out without much effort or pain. I asked her to and she had no problems trying.
Cheyeene Jewel RNC
Jennifer Thomas reverse head scissor
Kordelia Devonshire Three time The first time figure four scissor to end the session.
The next two were also figure four scissors. She koed me the first time , she waited
intill i was fully a wake and then koed me again. What a rush!
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Evil Kitty by triangle
Karate Fighter Maria (club Q) by triangle (twice)
I still don't like that hazy feeling when you're waking up. Feels like you're on drugs at the office and you're trying to act normal...heh
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To those interested , Rita Sargo will KO you on request , in the way you prefer ...
Asked her if that was possible got a positive answer
never sessioned with her , though
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I concur completely especially as one grows older. Another cautionary tale would be Mass Muscle Ed (a true pioneer in this area) who has not only been squeezed by the best, but has had to have neck surgery more than once as a result of his efforts on our behalf.
Unfortunately, it's still like the proverbial moth who "gets too close to the flame"...lol
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This is probably my last session frontier (well, that and DATY, but that's something I'd like to keep for the wife). My fear is any extended damage of a KO and not fully recovering quickly. I'm leery from working around sometimes-concussed athletes for decades and suffering one of my own on what wasn't the hardest hit to the head I've taken, but obviously was well-placed. Years ago, one of the nearly superhuman strong sessionettes said she refused to do KOs because she didn't trust her control. She wasn't just worried for her -- she pointed out a guy suffering severe permanent damage or worse would bring public hell down on our little under the radar world.
There is something incredibly sexy about a woman with the power to knock you out, especially if done not at your request but at her will.
Care to share who this lady was?
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Never met her, but Theresa B. was truly a WOMAN among girls!!! Long gone from the scene, but not forgotten...
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milena tevilova will also do it ... she even announces it on wb270
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Chris:
How did those three ladies get their knockouts? I have been interested in meeting all three. Tommi was able to knock me out without much effort or pain. I asked her to and she had no problems trying.
Hi dbach3,
I've been thinking of sessioning with Tommi and try this - how dis she do it? Would you recommend?
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Tommi asked me a few times during our session if I wanted her to knock me out. I asked her what the easiest way was and she put me in a forward face neck scissor while pulling the back of my head in towards her abs. I started to get lightheaded real fast. I chickened out and tapped. She was definitely ready to put me out if I didn't tap. In fact, there were a number of chokes, triangles, and headscissors throughout the session where she could have easily KO'd me if she wanted to.
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Here's my list:
Gina Jones via RNC
Scarlett via Reverse Head Scissors
Naadia via RNC
Baby Blake via figure four head scissors
Electra via Reverse Standing Head Scissors
Christine Marshall via reverse head scissors
Others always seemed to let me out just in time...
Electra who?
(http://img28.imagevenue.com/loc40/th_608955498_electraNV8_122_40lo.jpg) (http://img28.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=608955498_electraNV8_122_40lo.jpg)
Yep, that's her!
(http://wb270.com/ind/pics/electraNV6.jpg)
Nice kick! Would like to be on the place of this boy, holding smth. to break by her great legs - watermelon, or big vase, or beachball.
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Fez:
Tommi put me out with a triangle choke and I went out pretty quickly. I am sure she could have knocked me out a few more times but I tapped. The triangle was pretty painless but her rear naked choke hurt and I tapped to the pain, not because of the fear of going out. As for knockouts, tommi is great, as for looks, she is great, as for the overall session, just above average.
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Fez:
Tommi put me out with a triangle choke and I went out pretty quickly. I am sure she could have knocked me out a few more times but I tapped. The triangle was pretty painless but her rear naked choke hurt and I tapped to the pain, not because of the fear of going out. As for knockouts, tommi is great, as for looks, she is great, as for the overall session, just above average.
Hmmm. Triangles are the sexiest..and she certainly looks the part. Unfortunatley my emails don't seem to be getting responses right now.
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Triangles are my favorite way to go out as it is the sexist view and often times not a lot of pain before goin out. You will have much better results if you text tommi rather than emailing
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Nothing has worked thus far, which is a shame as she sees the stuff of dreams / nightmares. Tommi, if you're reading...
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I've been knocked out once, by Mistress Whiplash alias Nikki, the English dominatrix. I was struggling in her reverse headscissors, and next thing I remember is her smile above my face when I woke up.
She was the first and only one to succeed. Pippa (from LWS), Mutiny, Lina, Arianna Realis and Amrita didn't make me sleep. Maybe they could have if they used RNC, but I prefer scissors ^^
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Too bad Sondra Faas no longer does sessions. She would knock dudes out boxing, then when they came to, knock them out again with scissors. She loved dominating and beating the crap out of guys! I knew one dude who had both his nose and jaw broken during a session with Sondra. The dude went back for more months later, and suffered broken ribs! Sondra was sexy and cool, but guys had to really think about what they asked for because she would deliver without holding back.
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For those who've had the pleasure, and the courage (at least once), to come close to the unbelievable power of these "FBB/karate black belt" arms ... it's just a reminder.
(http://s11.postimage.org/3o95s0e43/779_122723114556275_2053868158_n.jpg)
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Fez:
Tommi put me out with a triangle choke and I went out pretty quickly. I am sure she could have knocked me out a few more times but I tapped. The triangle was pretty painless but her rear naked choke hurt and I tapped to the pain, not because of the fear of going out. As for knockouts, tommi is great, as for looks, she is great, as for the overall session, just above average.
I always find triangles too painful... It feels like my head is going to explode, like pressure is just building and building. I well applied RNC is painless...There should only be pressure on the sides of your neck, not on your trachea which is what leads to the pain.
-Weak4Legs
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Here's my list:
Gina Jones via RNC
Scarlett via Reverse Head Scissors
Naadia via RNC
Baby Blake via figure four head scissors
Electra via Reverse Standing Head Scissors
Christine Marshall via reverse head scissors
Others always seemed to let me out just in time...
Adding one to my list:
Ginger Martin via RNC
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Kordelia Devonshire, twice. Pure heaven.
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Devon D'Amo: http://wb270.com/ind/devonGA.htm
Malibu: http://wb270.com/ind/malibu.htm
Kris Clark / Clarkflex: http://wb270.com/ind/clarkflex.htm
All three had their strengths and weaknesses.
Devon is definitely not a FBB but choked me out several times (sleeper).
Kris is so damn muscular her chokes were painful. I barely went out with her because I'd tap from the pain. (I'd still do her again though!)
Malibu did the best job, as far as pure power without causing very unsexy pain.
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I've read a lot of enthusiastic comments about Kordelia Devonshire's knockouts, what does make them so special ?
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Devon D'Amo: http://wb270.com/ind/devonGA.htm
Malibu: http://wb270.com/ind/malibu.htm
Kris Clark / Clarkflex: http://wb270.com/ind/clarkflex.htm
All three had their strengths and weaknesses.
Devon is definitely not a FBB but choked me out several times (sleeper).
Kris is so damn muscular her chokes were painful. I barely went out with her because I'd tap from the pain. (I'd still do her again though!)
Malibu did the best job, as far as pure power without causing very unsexy pain.
I can vouch for Malibu. She is very skilled at the sleeper avoiding putting the pressure across the front of the throat but simply squeezing her biceps bringing her elbow together and she knows how to let it up as soon as you go out so the nap is very brief and she moves onto the next hold.
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I've read a lot of enthusiastic comments about Kordelia Devonshire's knockouts, what does make them so special ?
I have not had the pleasure of meeting Kordelia, but from what I have heard is that she is one of the few that puts you in a deep sleep. With most ko's the man is out for less than 3 seconds. But I guess hers are very good.
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I have been KO'd by Baby Blake, Wild -Kat, and Kordelia Devonshire; all by RNC. the first two were great but didn't compare to Kordelia. She was the first to do it to me and is why I ask for it in sessions now. I didn't know she was going to do it either. It was painless and I didn't feel it coming. I went out deeply and really took some time to get my bearings back but what a rush!
I did ask Lady Milady to KO me, and she put me in a reverse scissor for it, but as the pressure cranked up I panicked and tapped out. Thought she was going to pop my head off!
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I dont know why but when I have requested a ko by scissor hold it never works. For some reason the pain is through the roof and I have to fight like hell not to tap but still dont go out.
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FlameDiva in Atlanta nearly put me out with a rnc. She had me in the hold and applied the pressure so quickly and smooth I didn't realize what was happening and panicked. She released the hold quickly when she realized I was freaking out. :wow:
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Chip101 it's the same for me too
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I've read a lot of enthusiastic comments about Kordelia Devonshire's knockouts, what does make them so special ?
What makes them special is that she holds them longer. It puts you out deeper. Most girls let go at the first sign of unconsciousness and that is usually just before you are completely out. With Kordelia you go all the way out. And yes, it is safe.
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No, it's not safe to cut off the blood supply to the brain. Passing out is what happens when your brain shuts down: It is a signal that your brain needs more blood. Brain damage can occur if the brain is starved of oxygen. If it's held for a certain amount of time, tissue wll die and the damage may be serious. Do not agree to let. someone knock you out and maintain the pressure on your carotid artery. Make sure they release the pressure the moment you lose consciousness.
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Let's get a few facts straight here. A blood choke does not "cut off" the blood supply to the brain. It substantially reduces it. Passing out is what happens when activity in the frontal lobe is shut down. The entire brain does not shut down from a choke hold. It's only the front lobe. what actually happens when someone passes out from a blood choke is that a trigger in the carotid artery recognizes the reduced blood flow to the brain and shuts down the activity in the frontal lobe so the brain can survive longer on less blood. A choke out only takes 4 to 8 seconds from start to loss of consciousness. It takes 5 full minutes of complete oxygen deprivation for brain cells to start to die from lack of oxygen. Reduced blood flow from a blood choke, even if it is held for an extra 15 to 20 seconds does not even come close to creating a full 5 minute span of complete oxygen deprivation. So it is not in any way dangerous. Gene Lebell has choked out thousands of students in Judo classes and seminars without any incidents.
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If you are talking about releasing the hold after 15 seconds then we are talking about a different definition of "to go out deeply" and "into a deep sleep"... I was thinking the choke was held far longer than that.
You might know that brain damage does not occur until 5 minutes have passed, but you would be very reckless to allow yourself to be choked for long enough to prove that fact.
When you talk about a trained instructor choking people out, you know the hold is released at the moment the victim loses consciousnessness. The purpose of the demonstration is to allow the victim to experience how quickly they lose the ability to tap out, which would protect them from injury. A trained instructor is also trained in how to revive a victim in case of seizure or convulsions. I have seen how instructors react when a participant in a martial arts class has a seizure and their treatment is taken very seriously. A session wrestler is not trained in these techniques, but is self-taught. There is no one else present to ensure your safety during a choke out.
I am warning people not to take chances with their brains.
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I guess Crazycrazy is not crazy and makes a good point especially about seizures and convulsions. Some seizures and convulsions are very violent. Having experienced this first hand I can tell you this is true. A seizure or convulsion in a cramped space like a hotel room can lead to injury. What's more if the women panics and does not put you in the recovery position quickly and you end up on your back, there is always the possibility that you can swallow your tongue and choke to death.
I will often do sessions where scissors are part of it but I always make it clear that any knockout from a scissor or choke hold will be simulated so they know when to stop if I'm doing a role play for example. If doing a competitive session, then I make it clear from the start no knockouts by chokes, scissors, sleepers etc, and the woman will say that it is down to me to tap in time and not fight it when clearly she has the upper hand.
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http://www.nletc.com/files/GJPD--LVNR-Staff-Study.pdf
Just figured I'd keep throwing some actual facts into the conversation.
"Medical research on the use of neck restraints can be divided into two categories. An extensive amount
of research has been conducted regarding neck restraints in the sport of Judo. This res
earch consistently
shows that there are no deleterious effects of Judo “chokes.” "
"The carotid arteries supply approximately 70%
of the blood to the brain. The carotid arteries are very resilient and it is not possible to completely stop
the blood flow through these arteries with o
nly pressure applied with the arms."
"One of the first studies was
conducted by the United States Military in 1943. A
team of American military scientists examined the
effect of acute cerebral anoxia
—
a short and severe lack
of oxygen to the brain
. To do this, they
used an
inflatable cervical pressure cuff designed to induce temporary arrest of circulation without affecting the
respiratory tract; essentially, a mechanically created carotid pressure hold. The cuff was held down to
the lower third of the neck and press
ure increased to 600 mm of mercury within one
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eighth second.
One hundred and twenty six prison volunteers and 11 diagnosed schizophrenic patients were fitted with
the cuff which was tightened until unconsciousness was induced. The average time from arrest
of
cerebral circulation to loss of consciousness was six to eight seconds. The study concluded that arrest of
cerebral circulation in normal
young
men results in fixation of the eyes, tingling, constriction of the
visual fields, loss of consciousness, and
brief, mild tonic and clonic seizure after restoration of the blood
flow. This study, though dated, is perhaps the largest study ever conducted in terms of the sheer
number of participants. No deleterious effects were observed from
repeated tests on these
subjects.
There were a number of studies conducted in Japan during the time frame of 1958
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1963 that focused on
the physiological effects of choking in Judo. Judo authority Dr. E.K. Kiowai summarized the results of
these studies in an article entitled, “H
ow Safe is Choking in Judo” in which he stated that there were no
negative effects following application of a Judo choke hold. For the purposes of Judo both a respiratory
neck restraint and a vascular neck restraint are both deemed “chokes.” Dr Koiwai who
is an Associate
Professor of Pathology and Anatomy at the Hahnemann University School of Medicine summarizes that
carotid holds are safe for three reasons: there have been no fatalities since Judo was invented in 1892,
scientific studies have shown no del
eterious effects and precautionary rules and methods make the
technique safe.
In a 1963 report
entitled, “ Physiologica
l
Studie
s of C
hoking in Judo”
a
group of medical specialists and
ranking educators
representing
several of Japan's foremost medical sc
hools and universities as
well as
the Kodokan developed an experiment to determine the safety of chokes. They utilized
the
electroencephalograph to detect brain changes; the earoxymeter for blood oxygen saturation, the
sphygmomanometer for arterial blood p
ressure; the plethysmograph peripheral blood vessel reaction
and the micropipometer for skin temperature changes. Other studies probed the plasma protein
concentration, blood water volume, hematrocrit complete blood count, eosinophil count and urine 17
ket
o
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steroid content
to determine the risk associated with a Judo neck restraint. The test group
consisted of 6 Judo experts. Chokes were administered using the three methods common in Judo. These
included vascular and respiratory holds. This research experim
ent showed that there were no negative
effects related to the holds. However, the researchers did recommend that a choke hold not be used
against anyone with a cardiac disorder or hypertension. This was based on the increased blood pressure
associated with
the hold."
So you guys can go by anecdotes or by actual extensive medical research. I'll take the actual extensive medical research.
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Your "actual extensive medical research" does not apply to a session provider alone with you in a hotel room. Her experience will vary, but it is likely the type of "anectdotal" experience that you consider to be unreliable.
The US government experiment in 1943 conducted on prisoners and schizophrenics released the neck pressure in six to eight seconds. The Japanese examples conclude that "carotid holds are safe for three reasons: there have been no fatalities since Judo was invented... scientific studies show no deleterious effects and precautionary rules make the technique safe..." Reason #1 refers only to fatalities within supervised Judo contests and cannot possibly apply to the unsupervised use of carotid holds outside of supervised contests. Reason #2 refers to scientific studies such as the US Military study, where pressure was released in six to eight seconds. And reason #3 refers to the exact same caution I am warning you with: It is the precautionary rules that make the brief application of this hold safer-- the hold is applied by trained Judo practitioners who are able to initiate recovery treatment, or in the presence of trained supervisors. These demonstrations are performed to show dangerous the hold can be, as you lose the ability to tap out quite quickly. The examples you quote do not apply when the hold is clamped on and held after unconsciousness in a hotel room by an untrained person who has a monetary interest in providing the service. Go to a martial arts class and ask the instructor if the white belts can safely choke each other out.
You should experience the rush for your own enjoyment, but should not advise other people that it's safe.
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It absolutely does apply. We are talking about blood chokes. You are asserting that blood chokes are dangerous. We have two extensive studies that drew exactly the opposite conclusion. We also know for a fact that there are thousands and thousands of Jui Jitsu and Judo dojos across the planet and thousands of competitive tournaments held each year. In these dojos and tournaments we have literally thousands of incidents of people being choked out. In many cases the chokes were held well past the moment of unconsciousness because no one recognized what had happened. And yet we have ZERO reported incidents of brain damage or fatalities from any of those thousands and thousands of actual choke outs. Each year we have thousands of deaths due to food poisoning, pedestrians being struck by vehicles while crossing at cross walks, accidental deaths in swimming pools, people drowning in their bathtubs. We even have many recorded incidents of people choking to death on gum. There does come a point where there actually needs to be a substantial incidence of injury and fatality for us to meaningfully call something dangerous. The insistence that being choked out is dangerous doesn't even rise to the level of anecdotal. Where are the anecdotes? Where are the examples of brain damage and/or death due to blood chokes? I can cite multiple incidents of severe injury and death from doing the most mundane things that we commonly do without any thought of the act being particularly dangerous. If the word dangerous is going to have any real and useful meaning I would think it would be applied to things that have a well documented track record of causing severe injury and death. Clearly that is not the case here. Something I find a bit ironic given the other real dangers of grappling.
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No, it doesn't apply. We are talking about professionals and non professionals. You can't compare the safety of a session provider choking you in a hotel with no witnesses to a professionally supervised competition in a dojo. You wouldn't let a carpenter drill your tooth on an empty bus, or a butcher remove your appendix in a closet.
You are suggesting that holding the choke until well after unconsciousness is safe. Regarding Kordelia Devonshire, you said: "she holds them longer. It puts you out deeper. Most girls let go at the first sign of unconsciousness and that is usually just before you are completely out. With Kordelia you go all the way out. And yes, it is safe." JuiJitsu competitions are supervised so that chokes are released immediately on unconsciousness, Judo demonstrations are done by professionals, Kordelia Devonshire is relatively inexperienced, and hotel rooms are not dojos.
That's why those studies don't apply. Chokes that are held longer than necessary to effect unconsciousness, by amateurs, without supervision are not safe.
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I had some time to waste so I searched out the expert you named in your defence of choke safety above, E. Karl Koiwai, M.D. Writing in 1995 about the difference between chokeholds causing death, and Judo chokeholds, Dr. Koiwai states:
"In judo, the participants are taught to "choke" properly and in turn have been "choked" and have the ability to realize its effects before unconsciousness ensues. The officials, referee, judges, and coaches can recognize the player when he is "choked out" (becomes unconscious). If enforcement officers are to use the choke holds to subdue violent suspects as a last resort, they should be properly trained and supervised by trained certified judo instructors. Then possibly there will be less misuse or abuse of the techniques of choking which, when used improperly, result in fatalities."
The study lists 14 victims choked to death by police officers who were attempting the carotid artery choke. The reference is found in http://judoinfo.com/chokes6.htm
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OK well I think we obviously have very different opinions on the subject and have both made our cases.
One thing though. 14 deaths from police choke holds? Ya gotta consider a couple things there. 1. tens of thousands of police choke holds with no fatalities. 2. Police deal with people in all states of physical and mental well being. 3. there is a significant subset of police that enjoy hurting people under the cover of authority. 4 in none of the cases was it determined that the actual blood choke was the cause of death. It's easy to kill someone by crushing their windpipe and it's no surprise that there would be fatalities in the field given the vast array of physically and mentally unstable people police deal with. The article also points out that there have been many fatalities with restrains in hospitals that don't involve any sort of restriction of the carotid artery. None of the studies of use of choke holds by police ever drew any conclusion that a blood choke per se was in any way dangerous.
But anyway. You have made your arguments and I have made mine. Folks reading this can read the studies and decide for themselves.
Cheers
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a very attractive national level bodybuilder knocked me out with headscissors a number of years ago, I don't think I was out that long, but she had time to adjust her position so that the first thing I saw as I awoke was the sole of her bare foot perhaps an inch or two from my face...really highlighted what she had just done to me...
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Has anyone tried inhaling a popper before being knocked out? I wonder if it would intensify the effect.
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:wow:
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yesterday i experienced something where i really panicked. I had multiple session in my life and also been knocked out a couple of times and i love it, but i never experienced something like this. yesterday i had a session where i was knocked out in a headscissor for like 10 seconds, since then the cheek on the left side on my face feels numb, it is not hanging or anYthing and i can still move it. Has anyone ever been experienced something like this? This happened like 24 hours ago and it is still numb. I am starting to worry a bit, since i read about strokes caused by strangulation and so on
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Who did the scissor ko? How is it now? Was the session girl super big?
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I had a session with Fabi some years ago and was knocked out by her legs when I came around I was totally disoriented for a few seconds but I considered it part of the session something I had never experienced before!
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Has your cheek returned to normal? Any other side effects?
yesterday i experienced something where i really panicked. I had multiple session in my life and also been knocked out a couple of times and i love it, but i never experienced something like this. yesterday i had a session where i was knocked out in a headscissor for like 10 seconds, since then the cheek on the left side on my face feels numb, it is not hanging or anYthing and i can still move it. Has anyone ever been experienced something like this? This happened like 24 hours ago and it is still numb. I am starting to worry a bit, since i read about strokes caused by strangulation and so on
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When I had a session with Fabi I grabbed hold of her panties and janked them off. She made it easier by keeping her legs together and pointing her toes. At the time I thought it was fine, but now I think she cooperated to avoid having them damaged or have the fabric halfway down trapping her legs somewhat. She took hold of my arms and wrapped her legs around my neck in a figure four. She flexed her legs and I must have passed out instantly. When I came to she took me in a camel clutch holding me by the chin. She then bend her arms so that my neck was between her big fake breasts. When my hands went for hers she twisted my neck and told me to put my hands on her breasts. She then squeezed her breasts against my neck. She let up as soon as soon as I became lightheaded and my hands slipped off. She repeated this a couple of times. I couldn't believe it. I was being strangled by her breasts.
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Gia Primo
Kelli Provacteur/Ashley Starr
Skylar Rene
Mia Annabella
are the ladies who have ko’d me via scissors or choke holds
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Had Malibu choke me out via RNC. She knows how to do it properly and we did it twice. Great experience.