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Private Sessions => Talking about sessionettes => Topic started by: HartfordWhalersFan on June 02, 2021, 05:13:02 am
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I just tried to send a west cost session wrestler a session deposit. I hope she received the deposit. I’m worried CashApp and other websites may be flagging accounts. Session wrestling may soon be an all cash business, including session deposits. I know CashApp will sometimes hold a session deposit payment and pend it for a day or two. I have been told Venmo doesn’t offer refunds. Any truth to that? I’ve never had this difficulty sending session deposits, before. I emailed the session wrestler to let her know I sent the deposit. Hopefully, she will confirm receiving the session deposit. Anyone else have difficulty sending session deposits? I recently found out some banks don’t have working agreements with third party apps.
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Well Session was always an all cash biz until a few years ago. I get why some do it. Some ask for way to damn much tho. A lot of women do paypal. Some venmo. I have never had an issue. It depends how you are transferring stuff and how the other persons account is set up. It shouldn't take more than a day. I also hope you aren't putting something obvious on the transfer descriptions.
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I put almost no derails in the transfer descriptions. I believe this west coast session wrestler received my deposit. I will find out soon enough. It’s getting more difficult to find a session wrestler who will do an all cash session. Western Union could be an alternative payment method for sending deposits, however some session wrestlers don’t want to travel to a Western Union location to collect the cash. Why is that? I would be willing to pay the Western Union fees for the session wrestler.
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Maybe I'll get modded down for this but don't understand why crypto coins are not an option. If we take one of the more established coins as an example, maybe LTC, it has transfer fees of $0.2-$0.3, transfers are fast, more private than PayPal and easy to convert to/from fiat on an exchange for both parties.
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The west coast session wrestler did receive my deposit. I found out one of my credit cards no longer works on CashApp. The credit card company/bank and CashApp no longer have a working agreement. I do have another card that CashApp will accept. I hope I don’t have to open a Venmo account. Things are getting ridiculous just to send a session deposit. I really thought CashApp flagged my account however that wasn’t the case.
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Besides proving a commitment to reserve a spot, a deposit makes it easier on the woman not to have
to carry a lot of cash.
I don't like the idea of registering/learning a new app.
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Maybe I'll get modded down for this but don't understand why crypto coins are not an option. If we take one of the more established coins as an example, maybe LTC, it has transfer fees of $0.2-$0.3, transfers are fast, more private than PayPal and easy to convert to/from fiat on an exchange for both parties.
Probably one reason would be crypto can be a pita (comparetively) to convert to cash.
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When I started sessioning, deposits were only $50, pretty much just paypal, and they were rare. The more expensive SGs charged around $100 deposit. Over the years, seems a lot were asking for 50% upfront, give or take. There was one girl where sending a deposit was a major pain in the ass, all of her accounts were flagged. Was a good session, but wouldn't bother going through those hoops again. I've used cashapp a couple times, but won't make a venmo account. It has that weird vibe of "let's make a money-sending app combined with the social media highs of likes." I hear you can make transactions private, but the whole app makes me uncomfortable, so I'd insist on another way to pay.
Crypto is pretty shitty for the environment, but I understand why people want to use it for this when other payment methods are getting shut down. The girl also won't like it if you happen to send the deposit while Musk gets high and tweets "the price is too high." There can be holds on crypto as well.
At this point, I'm just sessioning with locals I've known for years so deposits aren't an issue anymore. The only cost she's taking on (besides time) is a few dollars in gas.
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As to deposits, I have no problem with doing them these days. I always give references which in many instances give my a "free pass", but still the number of NO SHOWS are still a major issue :angry:
Also, CashApp is the only way to go in my opinion...
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What about tips? Is it standard practice to tip? Does the sessionette expect a tip or just the rest of the money that is owed?
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What about tips? Is it standard practice to tip? Does the sessionette expect a tip or just the rest of the money that is owed?
Tips aren't expected.
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But certainly APPRECIATED especially if you plan to see her again ;)
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I always give references which in many instances give me a "free pass"
Was going to mention this. Guys who are able to still seem to underutilize references, besides helping establish that you're reliable the right lady will give your new provider a tip for interacting with you so you'll already start the session ahead.
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Some people don't like to give out references, kind of like when they ask you "who else have you sessioned with?" during the session. It can produce a slightly awkward situation (example: I told girl X that I had sessioned with Y who was her friend... but I didn't realize they had had a falling out). I can only think of one time I used a reference instead of a deposit. Sometimes girls ask for both. I am not too hesitant with deposits though, I never bothered to ask to use a reference instead, I only did that once when the girl brought it up to me. Perhaps she was experiencing others in my area being hesitant to send a deposit so she offered. Ideally references are also recent (maybe girls have left the scene, or maybe you've changed and are no longer reliable etc.), and I would bet a number of guys have done very few sessions 2020-2021.
IMO repeat business trumps tips. I've never given tips but have sent a couple gifts before. I also had a $30 discount on a future session since a video I ordered was a little shorter than it was supposed to be but I never took advantage of it (and even forgot about it for a while). I'm not going to bother trying with that when the girl just went through 2020 being virtually unable to work. Maybe that can be thought of as a small tip.
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But certainly APPRECIATED especially if you plan to see her again ;)
Tips on top of the high prices of sessions these days? nah
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What about tips? Is it standard practice to tip? Does the sessionette expect a tip or just the rest of the money that is owed?
Don't tip. They already overcharge
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What about tips? Is it standard practice to tip? Does the sessionette expect a tip or just the rest of the money that is owed?
Don't tip. They already overcharge
Do they?
Are they living in huge mansions?
Driving supercars?
Making it rain when they go out?
Planning a trip takes so much time. The overhead in time is crazy.
Making the travel plan
Checking the flights, hotels, transportation, etc.
Answering emails, +90% of time spend doesn't lead to sessions.
Then the traveling itself taking huge overhead in time.
In the good old days, a weekend in London would easily bring in +$6000. NYC even much more. The overhead in emails was much lower as well. And even then women weren't getting crazy rich from it.
If seen as a business, all training must be seen as working hours. Even preparing meals. Buying outfits. Etc.
You'll end up on a very low hourly rate. Unless you are one of the few who is also making great money with the other businesses, like webcam, websites, clips4sale and Only Fans.
In the early 2000's , the standard price was about $250 - $300/hr. This hasn't changed much on average at all. If that would be $400 right now, it would mean just a 2% increase per year.
-SqueezeMeBaby
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Rates are higher. The ones who are doing well are probably living pretty comfortably, but it's none of our business whether they're driving supercars or living in mansions or buying rockets to fly to space. Unless it's through a gofundme that was supposed to be for medical bills I suppose. One could say for my job I had to do education, have to keep myself in reasonable enough physical and mental shape to keep my job. I don't count my hours reading or getting exercise or keeping my mind sharp as part of my hourly rate. Besides, training is something they want to do. They (often) do sessions to enable training, not vice versa.
But the big scores are probably not often. If you can get $6k in a weekend somewhere, you probably can't do it again in that city the next weekend, or even the next month. Not many guys can afford repeat sessions at that frequency. A lot of guys rarely session with the same girl twice, even if it was a great session.
But they do age out, and can't keep doing it until 62 or whatever age the corporate type would typically retire from, and don't have retirement benefits/health insurance included (which many other jobs don't either). It's not easy to execute a successful exit plan.
This will turn into a pretty senseless debate. Guys who don't make much are going to feel slighted whether the girl is living in a mansion or not.
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What about tips? Is it standard practice to tip? Does the sessionette expect a tip or just the rest of the money that is owed?
They'll accept tips, but tips aren't expected. It's kinda like when you hire other professionals, doctor, etc.
You can expect to be asked for more, if you have special requests, like nude, etc.
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What about tips? Is it standard practice to tip? Does the sessionette expect a tip or just the rest of the money that is owed?
Don't tip. They already overcharge
Do they?
Are they living in huge mansions?
Driving supercars?
Making it rain when they go out?
Planning a trip takes so much time. The overhead in time is crazy.
Making the travel plan
Checking the flights, hotels, transportation, etc.
Answering emails, +90% of time spend doesn't lead to sessions.
Then the traveling itself taking huge overhead in time.
In the good old days, a weekend in London would easily bring in +$6000. NYC even much more. The overhead in emails was much lower as well. And even then women weren't getting crazy rich from it.
If seen as a business, all training must be seen as working hours. Even preparing meals. Buying outfits. Etc.
You'll end up on a very low hourly rate. Unless you are one of the few who is also making great money with the other businesses, like webcam, websites, clips4sale and Only Fans.
In the early 2000's , the standard price was about $250 - $300/hr. This hasn't changed much on average at all. If that would be $400 right now, it would mean just a 2% increase per year.
-SqueezeMeBaby
How on earth does where they live and what they drive fucking matter? In the early 2000's I saw some of the elite women and never payed over $200. Almost everyone wants $400-$500 minimum today.
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How on earth does where they live and what they drive fucking matter? In the early 2000's I saw some of the elite women and never payed over $200. Almost everyone wants $400-$500 minimum today.
Inflation. Compare the cost of living today with the early 2000's. Those were the good old days.
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How on earth does where they live and what they drive fucking matter? In the early 2000's I saw some of the elite women and never payed over $200. Almost everyone wants $400-$500 minimum today.
In 2000, it was harder to advertise sessions and there wasn't a group of session guys watching the tour sites.
Besides higher travel costs now, the social media sites may have boosted rates, to make it worth the live session issues.
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Why should I care what you paid? The ongoing price was $250 to $300/hr.
Just like you were paying your fee, others were getting it for free. Over and over and over and over again and still.
It matters when people think the price is too high. As if these women are getting filthy rich from it.
Nope they're not and we should be thankful when a woman decides to do this job. No matter what price she charges.
-Squeezemebaby
What about tips? Is it standard practice to tip? Does the sessionette expect a tip or just the rest of the money that is owed?
Don't tip. They already overcharge
Do they?
Are they living in huge mansions?
Driving supercars?
Making it rain when they go out?
Planning a trip takes so much time. The overhead in time is crazy.
Making the travel plan
Checking the flights, hotels, transportation, etc.
Answering emails, +90% of time spend doesn't lead to sessions.
Then the traveling itself taking huge overhead in time.
In the good old days, a weekend in London would easily bring in +$6000. NYC even much more. The overhead in emails was much lower as well. And even then women weren't getting crazy rich from it.
If seen as a business, all training must be seen as working hours. Even preparing meals. Buying outfits. Etc.
You'll end up on a very low hourly rate. Unless you are one of the few who is also making great money with the other businesses, like webcam, websites, clips4sale and Only Fans.
In the early 2000's , the standard price was about $250 - $300/hr. This hasn't changed much on average at all. If that would be $400 right now, it would mean just a 2% increase per year.
-SqueezeMeBaby
How on earth does where they live and what they drive fucking matter? In the early 2000's I saw some of the elite women and never payed over $200. Almost everyone wants $400-$500 minimum today.
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Again, where they live or what they drive matters how???
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Again, where they live or what they drive matters how???
Cost of living ? Hourly Rates are adjusted accordingly. Just like how many jobs hour rates differ depending on location.
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Again, where they live or what they drive matters how???
Cost of living ? Hourly Rates are adjusted accordingly. Just like how many jobs hour rates differ depending on location.
I haven't seen that adjustment done anywhere. I've seen girls in Vegas and a few months later NYC and the rate was the same. If you mean based on where the girl lives and not just where she's traveling (where COL influences hotel costs), I haven't seen girls who move change their rates either. I have seen girls who think they can get more change their rates. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I don't want to get too involved in the bickering, I think both "they charge way too much this is ridiculous" and "we should be thankful they do this no matter what they charge" are pretty silly viewpoints. I also think focusing on what car people drive immediately is the core of a lot of bad financial judgments. People buying cars they can't afford happens way too much, and millionaires are usually the ones who don't waste on that crap. The number of times people have asked me what kind of car I drive when I meet them is off the charts, plus people who have told me I should buy a much more expensive car (no, I don't drive a beater). Lots of people buy way too much house too.
Besides, inflation doesn't mean much. There's been a lot of inflation, but many people's wages haven't gone up in decades. And many people's wages have gone up far faster than inflation. It depends on what you do. Quoting COL increases when trying to get a raise doesn't help you. Being irreplaceable and willing to walk away does.
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Again, where they live or what they drive matters how???
Cost of living ? Hourly Rates are adjusted accordingly. Just like how many jobs hour rates differ depending on location.
Being irreplaceable and willing to walk away does.
You typed a-lot but I think this part of your post is the thing that really matters at the end of the day. The best ladies can and often do walk away. And they are not being replaced by ladies anywhere close to them They are a rare commodity thats becoming increasingly difficult to replicate.
You have many fat broads, skinny emo un athletic looking ladies and muscle chicks that look like dudes in the session scene. Recruiting women for sessions be it UTR or to get listed is harder for younger ladies. Based on my experience mature woman is easier to get into the scene but thats another topic.
Standard used to be $200-300 an hr but the number of quality all time great ladies who offer that is very low.
I know several ladies who made 6 figures in session income (seen there 1040 forms) and those who struggle to make ends meet. its all relative depending on each situation.
I have been very lucky/fortunate to get so many free or heavily discounted sessions that for some ladies I don’t have any idea what there rate is.
Whatever the ladies charge is there business, those who are worth it, will get it
, those who aren’t will adjust accordingly.
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Again, where they live or what they drive matters how???
Cost of living ? Hourly Rates are adjusted accordingly. Just like how many jobs hour rates differ depending on location.
Being irreplaceable and willing to walk away does.
You typed a-lot but I think this part of your post is the thing that really matters at the end of the day. The best ladies can and often do walk away. And they are not being replaced by ladies anywhere close to them They are a rare commodity thats becoming increasingly difficult to replicate.
You have many fat broads, skinny emo un athletic looking ladies and muscle chicks that look like dudes in the session scene. Recruiting women for sessions be it UTR or to get listed is harder for younger ladies. Based on my experience mature woman is easier to get into the scene but thats another topic.
Standard used to be $200-300 an hr but the number of quality all time great ladies who offer that is very low.
I know several ladies who made 6 figures in session income (seen there 1040 forms) and those who struggle to make ends meet. its all relative depending on each situation.
I have been very lucky/fortunate to get so many free or heavily discounted sessions that for some ladies I don’t have any idea what there rate is.
Whatever the ladies charge is there business, those who are worth it, will get it
, those who aren’t will adjust accordingly.
I know what you're saying about the old guard of session women but, man, you kinda buried the current crop lol.
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As you’re trustworthy and session goes well on both side, tipping is up to you but session girls won’t generally mind if you don’t
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What about tips? Is it standard practice to tip? Does the sessionette expect a tip or just the rest of the money that is owed?
Don't tip. They already overcharge
Do they?
Are they living in huge mansions?
Driving supercars?
Making it rain when they go out?
Planning a trip takes so much time. The overhead in time is crazy.
Making the travel plan
Checking the flights, hotels, transportation, etc.
Answering emails, +90% of time spend doesn't lead to sessions.
Then the traveling itself taking huge overhead in time.
In the good old days, a weekend in London would easily bring in +$6000. NYC even much more. The overhead in emails was much lower as well. And even then women weren't getting crazy rich from it.
If seen as a business, all training must be seen as working hours. Even preparing meals. Buying outfits. Etc.
You'll end up on a very low hourly rate. Unless you are one of the few who is also making great money with the other businesses, like webcam, websites, clips4sale and Only Fans.
In the early 2000's , the standard price was about $250 - $300/hr. This hasn't changed much on average at all. If that would be $400 right now, it would mean just a 2% increase per year.
-SqueezeMeBaby
I was talking about tipping. $400-$500 is still a lot for 1 hour
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Don't tip. They already overcharge
I was talking about tipping. $400-$500 is still a lot for 1 hour
As you can see, you weren't just talking about tipping. You stated that they overcharge. I replied to that.
-Squeezemebaby
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I know I am jumping into this on page three. But I will put my thoughts on two things in here.
1. Deposits, I understand the reason for them. If I am seeing a woman who is traveling or someone that I am seeing for the first time I have had no issues with giving deposits. I have only had one provider ask for one on a second (and even third) session but I am good with it. With all of the deposits I have given I have only been burned once. And that was a situation that will never happen again.
2. Tips. Tips are given for excellent service. I am inherently a good tipper across the board. When I go to see a provider for the first time I generally bring a little extra money with me, but I do not always give the tip. I am seeing a repeat provider I will either tip based on previous experience assuming I would have an equally good time, or I buy them a gift off of their Amazon wishlist if they have one. Though women should never expect tips, from my experience they have always been well received. I am a creature of habit, if I find a girl that I like I will see her again. I am big proponent greasing the wheel for future experiences. I was always taught to treat people well, and if it is a service provider you will see again treat them extra well (that is just a general thought I have towards any service I receive in life.)
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Somehow a discussion of deposits detours into the subject of tipping.
Tips are not not required for self-employed contractors who set their own rates. You have to assume that session providers value their time the same way a psychiatrist or a plumber would. Tips are mandatory for underpaid service industry workers who make less than minimum wage for an hour's work.
Tips are voluntary for exceptional service from self-employed service workers. Tips are illegal for police officers and politicians in the performance of their duties.
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Bernie mirrors my own thinking on tips, I bring them but I don't always leave without them. If I already know I want to see her again she gets a tip* which I'm fine with since she either met my high expectations or pleasantly surprised me and it's never too early to start her positive vibes for the next session.
*I've seen some ladies write they expect to be tipped, doesn't stop me from booking if I'm interested but I'm not sure they've thought through the psychology involved in doing that.
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A lot of ladies in the US are only taking venmo or cashapp which are not available to us folks who live north of the border. They do not use paypal.
I've had a few potential sessions fall through because of it.
Anyone else north of the border with this problem?
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A lot of ladies in the US are only taking venmo or cashapp which are not available to us folks who live north of the border. They do not use paypal.
I've had a few potential sessions fall through because of it.
Anyone else north of the border with this problem?
Have you looked into Apple Pay using Apple Cash or whatever payment method you have linked to an Apple ID? I haven't tried it myself, but it might be a solution for you if both you and the recipient have Apple accounts.
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Because I have recently been looking for some sessions with some people actually traveling into my area and the wide variety of deposits quoted I’m bringing this thread back up. I’ve had one person quote me $50 and another one quote me $300 for the deposit. Just not sure how these session women come up with these numbers. Of course there’s a problem with a lot of people flaking and wasting the time of these women, I just wish there would be a better way some kind of escrow to ensure that both parties live up to their obligations. I know they are independent contractors and many people here feel like they don’t deserve a tip, I guess I would be tipping on the quality of the service and anything that they offered in the session that was not previously on the table if we had the right chemistry. But I would also think that any kind of up-selling during the course of the session would be an automatic no tip. Lol.
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There was a woman that was POTENTIALLY traveling to my area but she wasn't sure. She wanted a $300 deposit, $600 session, and for me to provide the incall. She wanted all that despite her not being sure if she would even come to my area, on top of that called ME a time waister ( a session vet since 2005 and more than a few good references).
Some schmoes are killing it for others , but also a lot of the newer women are coming in with A LOT of demands. That said, the better Session women historically have never been and continue to not be so demanding and rude.
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I believe that the veteran/recommended SG's have a lot of regulars, so they are less likely to ask for deposits, except for a new guy.
Some new girls want the odds and the $$$ too much in their favor.
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I have had a few similar recent difficulties with deposits. The persons that i was corresponding with did not have a set date or time to potentially meet as their plans were still not set. We had only exchange one or two emails. And we hadn't even discussed the style or type of session to see if we agreed on that. But right away they both wanted
a 50% deposit. When I asked, politely, about first confirming a date and time and the style of session that works for both of us, in both cases I got called a time waster and rude for not 'knowing how this worked.' And like the other person said I'm a veteran of this of 20 years with multiple solid references that I could give. Just leaves me shaking my head at the customer service/ business practices of some of these girls.
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I have had a few similar recent difficulties with deposits. The persons that i was corresponding with did not have a set date or time to potentially meet as their plans were still not set. We had only exchange one or two emails. And we hadn't even discussed the style or type of session to see if we agreed on that. But right away they both wanted
a 50% deposit. When I asked, politely, about first confirming a date and time and the style of session that works for both of us, in both cases I got called a time waster and rude for not 'knowing how this worked.' And like the other person said I'm a veteran of this of 20 years with multiple solid references that I could give. Just leaves me shaking my head at the customer service/ business practices of some of these girls.
Literally sounds like Fiesty?
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I have had a few similar recent difficulties with deposits. The persons that i was corresponding with did not have a set date or time to potentially meet as their plans were still not set. We had only exchange one or two emails. And we hadn't even discussed the style or type of session to see if we agreed on that. But right away they both wanted
a 50% deposit. When I asked, politely, about first confirming a date and time and the style of session that works for both of us, in both cases I got called a time waster and rude for not 'knowing how this worked.' And like the other person said I'm a veteran of this of 20 years with multiple solid references that I could give. Just leaves me shaking my head at the customer service/ business practices of some of these girls.
Maybe next time don't take at least 3 emails to indicate the type of session.
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I did. I almost always put my session style preferences in the first email. Like I said I've been doing this for a while so I'm not trying to waste anybody's time and I know the protocol. Sorry if I didn't make that clear in the previous message. In both cases the girls ignored that and the couple emails they sent back to me were all about their up in the air travel schedule and not being sure of any dates/times. But they still wanted a deposit despite that. My guess is really trying to get interest in your and didn't want to make definitely plans to fix it there was an idea which I understand. But I'm not going to send out 200 bucks on the chance that it will work out. And that they will also be agreeable to the style of session. Then have to worry worry about getting their money back it all that doesn't work out.
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Sorry that last message was garbled. Trying to reply on my phone is hard on this board and my edits for spelling/grammer didnt work out very well. The jist of it is clear tho.
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Sorry that last message was garbled. Trying to reply on my phone is hard on this board and my edits for spelling/grammer didnt work out very well. The jist of it is clear tho.
Sorry. I took from you saying you had not discussed the type of session that you'd not told her.
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I usually say I'm into X + Y + Z in the initial email and only get into specific details after verifying schedule and price compatibility. A long email probably gets ignored, seems to be the effective strategy. Then deposit after we both agree to specifics. I once tried to do a skype session with someone and she refused to even tell me if she was available on such-and-such date until after receiving payment. Some people I just have no clue how they get through life when that feels normal to them.
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You pretty much nailed it abra. And you said it more succinctly than I did so thanks for that! That's pretty much the same route I take as I found it works well. I send an initial straightforward one paragraph email that covers the basics so the girl knows im serious, not going to waste her time, and gives her most of the info she needs. You don't send multi page long details in the first few emails because I know girls don't have time for that. Then once you have the general parameters set and a date in the first 3 emails typically, I give them the deposit. As now I also know the girl is serious about her travel plans and is willing and capable of delivering for the most part the type of session I prefer. Then once the basics are all agreeable and the girls know their going to get paid for their time, there's usually always the willingness from the girl to get into more specifics and hammer out the final details. Seems pretty simple to me and its worked well for me before. But like you said it's lost on some of these women now doing sessions.
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Apologies if this has already been pointed out (several times). Schmo's no show all the time. If you are a repeat customer, then I can see getting a pass on the deposit, but even then sometimes they need that cash for pre-paying travel expenses. Yet still some girls don't require a deposit and some do. I think its a good practice because there are way too many douche bags who schedule sessions with no intention of ever showing up.
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Just spent time with one of my favorite ladies who was really "bummed" by her trip so far!!! Had driven over 1,000 miles in the previous three days and had only 6 of 21 appointments show up...most cancelling at the last minute :angry: One who did show up said he'd left his wallet in the car and never came back!!! And of course, everyone is expecting to have their deposit returned I'm sure!!!
This puts not only her in a bind, but really puts Jennifer at sessiongirls in a no win situation as well. All because of the "idiots" who want to play "games!!!
My thought...all ladies should start by implementing a NO REFUND policy...they've been way too lenient for too long and it's time to send these types of guys a message. Of course, there are legitimate excuses, but my guess is that under those circumstance they can use their deposit for a return engagement.
Just saying...
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Just spent time with one of my favorite ladies who was really "bummed" by her trip so far!!! Had driven over 1,000 miles in the previous three days and had only 6 of 21 appointments show up...most cancelling at the last minute :angry: One who did show up said he'd left his wallet in the car and never came back!!! And of course, everyone is expecting to have their deposit returned I'm sure!!!
With stuff like this, it's really amazing there's still even women on the scene at all. And yeah, I'm sure the guy who "left his wallet in the car" is the exact type of person who complains about deposits.
I pretty much now believe in the theory that a lot of these guys just "get a rise" out of e-mailing, talking with and setting things up with the women. That's what they get a thrill out of. Then on the day of, they either chicken out of showing up or just end up not wanting to pay.
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I met a girl who was telling me she had to raise her rates due to inflation of travel costs, and she drives instead of flying to remain as flexible as possible basically. She also sometimes sleeps in her car on a road trip because hotels are too expensive. No idea how many no-shows she gets.
Sorry, but if the woman has to cancel, deposit should be refunded. If the guy cancels, sure, don't refund it. You're only penalizing the good guys for the timewasters' behavior if X doesn't get a refund because Y no-showed and it's not worth her time to continue the tour. Anyway, a lot of people are starting to do only 1-2 day trips, even cross-country, probably to limit the risk of no-shows, at least you're not on the hook for 5 days worth of hotels then.
I pretty much now believe in the theory that a lot of these guys just "get a rise" out of e-mailing, talking with and setting things up with the women. That's what they get a thrill out of.
I think it's a function of the nature of the SG website. There are many profiles to look at. I know there have been cases where I reached out to someone and didn't get a response for 3 weeks, by that point I was no longer interested, or even where I booked 2-3 months out and wasn't as excited about the session as I had been initially. I've never cancelled on anyone for that sort of thing, but it was a lesson not to book until 3-4 weeks out, and not to book a new person the first day you see their profile. But anyway, this is a bit different from someone who never intends to book in the first place and intends to, from day 1, piss her off by no-showing.