Forum Saradas
Private Sessions => Talking about sessionettes => Topic started by: diggs on April 03, 2022, 09:11:52 pm
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I can't log in to wb270 anymore. It started a few days ago but it hasn't changed so I'm wondering if it's just my browser (Chrome) or if others are having the same issue.
It happened once a few weeks ago but it was working again by morning. Now it's saying the site is "insecure" and the browser gives up trying to connect after a minute or two. :what:
Are any of you experiencing the same thing?
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I'm having the same problem with Safari.
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Firefox too, don't think its a browser thing
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all of Diana the Valkyrie's sites are down? ???
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I can see it on my iphone
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Works for me now, I think it was a hiccup
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Same problem- appears to be corrected now
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Yeah, I can get it now, too, but that was after a good three days. Weird.
But I'm glad to know that it wasn't just me! :woohoo:
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Well, time sadly continues to MARCH ON!!! In order to start the New Year off properly I thought I would review what many of us remember as the Gold Standard for Session "enthusiasts" and see what the WB270 site was offering these days. I decided to do this because when I searched it a couple of weeks ago the page that came up was a list of girls who were available in JUNE of 1998 >:D Talk about wonderful memories...I was able to spend time with several of them on multiple occasions >: :dance:
And THEN REALITY hit me right in the "kisser"!!! As I said I just googled WB270 and now it's gone, gone, gone :'(
So apparently the owner/moderater has finally decided to "hang it up" and from what I have heard from a reliable source he had no interest in turning it over to any one else. But that's his decision and I respect him for it, but still...
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It’s a sad day indeed. There were some women who had listings there but not on SG. Wonder if they will decide to switch over. I can understand his decision to not turn it over to someone else. Likely didn’t want anyone “messing up” what he had created.
Also, it’s highly unlikely anyone would’ve wanted to take over doing things exactly the way he did them. He manually updated all listings and travel dates. It’s not like SG where the women update those things themselves. The WB guy took e-mails from the women and manually updated things himself.
I seriously doubt anyone would have the dedication to do the same thing he did. I’m truly amazed how long he did it for. Hats off to the guy.
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Wow this is how i would get by most of my sessions even up until 2-3 years ago or so…
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It doesn't have to be that WB270 stopped. The website is hosted through Diana The Valkyrie. That site also can't be reached at this moment.
Might be a hosting problem.
-Squeezemebaby
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So apparently the owner/moderater has finally decided to "hang it up" and from what I have heard from a reliable source he had no interest in turning it over to any one else. But that's his decision and I respect him for it, but still...
Not sure who is your reliable source but it seems you just speculate. I guess it is a temporary server issue which happened before many times. Bill is using Alan's host and his other websites are offline at the moment.
Bill is 79 years old, Alan is 75 old but these dinosaur schmoes will never give up until they pass away. These guys are very secretive, Bill and Alan don't make friendship with other schmoes, they just live in their fantasy world so a reliable source is out of question, sorry for bursting your bubble.
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I have heard from many ladies on the scene who met the guy on multiple occasion's..about buying/taking over wb270.. Hwillish is correct in that he never wanted or had any intention/desire of letting anyone else run/own wb270.com.
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According to multiple sessionettes I know, the guy is like 100 years old. Something might have happened to him. I’m pretty sure he’d make an announcement if he was dropping it. It’s just not loading at the moment, that might be a server issue. Let’s hope so.
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According to multiple sessionettes I know, the guy is like 100 years old. Something might have happened to him. I’m pretty sure he’d make an announcement if he was dropping it. It’s just not loading at the moment, that might be a server issue. Let’s hope so.
You can watch this weird video, this is the wb270 guy
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bill-burr-passwords-guidance/
An article about him
The Guy Who Invented Those Annoying Password Rules Now Regrets Wasting Your Time
https://gizmodo.com/the-guy-who-invented-those-annoying-password-rules-now-1797643987
More details
https://csrc.nist.rip/staff/burr/bbhome.html
https://nistdigitalarchives.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p16009coll5/id/589/
More articles
https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2017/08/11/why-nists-bill-burr-shouldnt-regret-his-2003-password-advice/
https://csrc.nist.gov/publications/detail/sp/800-63b/final
https://www.theverge.com/2017/8/7/16107966/password-tips-bill-burr-regrets-advice-nits-cybersecurity
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-40875534
https://cloudnine.com/ediscoverydaily/electronic-discovery/retired-nist-expert-says-advice-creating-passwords-wrong-cybersecurity-best-practices/
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/p455w0rd-man-bill-burr-says-50rry-bananas-advice-112800557.html
https://www.engadget.com/2017-08-08-nist-new-password-guidelines.html
https://specopssoft.com/blog/father-password-rules-sorry-wasting-time/
https://www.consumerreports.org/consumerist/man-who-suggested-complicated-always-changing-passwords-now-has-regrets/
https://www.sciencealert.com/the-guy-who-wrote-the-book-on-passwords-now-wants-to-chuck-it-out
https://www.kubed.ca/everything-youve-been-taught-about-passwords-is-wrong/
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I guess the little boys need some help.
1) go to www.*****.com
2) go to www.wb270.com
See the similarity?
3) go to https://lookup.icann.org/
4) fill in wb270.com
5) you might wanna try filling in *****.com in as well
It should actually be common knowledge for a schmoo what TheValkyrie is, how WB270 started, how websites like herbiceps.com started, etc.
-Squeezemebaby
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Funny how the domain of Diana The Valkyrie is block on this forum. The domain is The and Valkyrie dot com without a space.
-Squeezemebaby
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Funny how the domain of Diana The Valkyrie is block on this forum. The domain is The and Valkyrie dot com without a space.
-Squeezemebaby
Alan is a millionnaire. In 80s he prepared a software and sold it to software company made millions. Even of his daughter has a jet set life style. But in spite of being a millionnaire, Alan is good at stealing people's credentials, sharing with other people and scamming girls. You can visit his website at your own risk.
https://saradas.org/index.php?topic=221407.0
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Interesting. I always wonder who is wb270 guy and who is DtV guy. Are they bodybuilders themselves? Are they married with female bodybuilders?
I'm a bit disappointed. I can't image these girls meeting these out of shape 100 years old farts.
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Interesting. I always wonder who is wb270 guy and who is DtV guy. Are they bodybuilders themselves? Are they married with female bodybuilders?
I'm a bit disappointed. I can't image these girls meeting these out of shape 100 years old farts.
Especially if they request strap on from these girls.
Hell no! I doubt that Bill and Alan visit gym a single day in their entire life. Alan's wife is Susan, Bill's wife is Kinh. They're not bodybuilders, even their daughters are not.
Susan gave voice some stories on DtV so some schmoes think that DtV run by a female. Susan knows about Alan's secret fantasies but does Kinh she know about Bill's secret fantasies? Will she regret coming from Vietnam if she learns that Bill meets other women?
Bill and Alan had old friendship back in end of 70s, even if they live in different continents, both of them were working on computer related security.
Both of them selfish and not trustful. They don't make friendship with other schmoes.
This is Alan in 1995.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Vc0eMRcKHU
After some previous tension between the two software products, on June 9, 1998, McAfee (then known as Network Associates) agreed to acquire Dr. Solomon's Group plc, the leading European manufacturer of antivirus software, for $642 million in stock.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr_Solomon%27s_Antivirus
I can provide more links and up to date photos of Alan if there's interest from the members.
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Well, time sadly continues to MARCH ON!!! In order to start the New Year off properly I thought I would review what many of us remember as the Gold Standard for Session "enthusiasts" and see what the WB270 site was offering these days. I decided to do this because when I searched it a couple of weeks ago the page that came up was a list of girls who were available in JUNE of 1998 >:D Talk about wonderful memories...I was able to spend time with several of them on multiple occasions >: :dance:
And THEN REALITY hit me right in the "kisser"!!! As I said I just googled WB270 and now it's gone, gone, gone :'(
So apparently the owner/moderater has finally decided to "hang it up" and from what I have heard from a reliable source he had no interest in turning it over to any one else. But that's his decision and I respect him for it, but still...
Oy vey. It's a temporary DNS issue.
I have heard from many ladies on the scene who met the guy on multiple occasion's..about buying/taking over wb270.. Hwillish is correct in that he never wanted or had any intention/desire of letting anyone else run/own wb270.com.
"Many ladies on the scene"? That's a bit sus. I know it's just hearsay and that you might only be repeating what they said to you, but I doubt very seriously more than 2 or possibly 3 women ever expressed to Bill their interest in buying or taking over wb270.
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At one time, I heard it rumored that Bill did have a succession plan in mind for wb270, but I don't know what it is or whether that even was a true claim.
I do not know what the specific plan is for DtV, but many years ago was advised that one does exist to keep the servers up-and-running for some unspecified period of time.
By contrast, when the PhantomFrog guy died suddenly, the entire back end failed. It was a small nightmare to get those customer accounts straight not to mention that the billing (for his cart) continued once the system was no longer even functioning. That was a mess.
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Well, time sadly continues to MARCH ON!!! In order to start the New Year off properly I thought I would review what many of us remember as the Gold Standard for Session "enthusiasts" and see what the WB270 site was offering these days. I decided to do this because when I searched it a couple of weeks ago the page that came up was a list of girls who were available in JUNE of 1998 >:D Talk about wonderful memories...I was able to spend time with several of them on multiple occasions >: :dance:
And THEN REALITY hit me right in the "kisser"!!! As I said I just googled WB270 and now it's gone, gone, gone :'(
So apparently the owner/moderater has finally decided to "hang it up" and from what I have heard from a reliable source he had no interest in turning it over to any one else. But that's his decision and I respect him for it, but still...
Oy vey. It's a temporary DNS issue.
I have heard from many ladies on the scene who met the guy on multiple occasion's..about buying/taking over wb270.. Hwillish is correct in that he never wanted or had any intention/desire of letting anyone else run/own wb270.com.
"Many ladies on the scene"? That's a bit sus. I know it's just hearsay and that you might only be repeating what they said to you, but I doubt very seriously more than 2 or possibly 3 women ever expressed to Bill their interest in buying or taking over wb270.
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At one time, I heard it rumored that Bill did have a succession plan in mind for wb270, but I don't know what it is or whether that even was a true claim.
I do not know what the specific plan is for DtV, but many years ago was advised that one does exist to keep the servers up-and-running for some unspecified period of time.
By contrast, when the PhantomFrog guy died suddenly, the entire back end failed. It was a small nightmare to get those customer accounts straight not to mention that the billing (for his cart) continued once the system was no longer even functioning. That was a mess.
It a typo on my end but I been told by at least 5 ladies who approached him about at least taking over wb270 to make it more up to date with listings, photos, reviews and travel plans. with a couple (2) considering to buy but the wb270 never wanted to sell nor had any plans to pass it off to anyone to keep the site running should he decide to retire or sadly pass on etc.
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I guess the little boys need some help.
1) go to www.*****.com
2) go to www.wb270.com
See the similarity?
3) go to https://lookup.icann.org/
4) fill in wb270.com
5) you might wanna try filling in *****.com in as well
It should actually be common knowledge for a schmoo what TheValkyrie is, how WB270 started, how websites like herbiceps.com started, etc.
-Squeezemebaby
Yet another reason being old sucks . . . I have no idea what this or any of the other computer-lingo on this thread means. LOL!! I guess I'll have to go back into the Classifieds in the back of Muscle Mag to find my sessions.
"Muscle Mag is defunct???" :::aim::: :::cock::: :::click::: "Well, that's typical."
#vasstillsucks
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Two of the best SG only advertise on WB270; Lora O + Ms Melissa. There are probably more.
It's worth having if it's fixed and maintained.
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Hi Zenzen...at first glance I was offended by your reply to my post and wrote it off as some "newbie" when I saw only 25 posts. If you would like to know the name of my source I will gladly share it with you and I assure you you will know her...one of the most popular ladies on the scene today :woohoo:
However, as I read further I realized that you obviously know of what you are talking about and truly appreciate you're sharing your knowledge with us :clap: And what really made me laugh was when you referred to these two pioneers as "dinosaur schmoes"!!! Because I too ARE ONE (and damn proud of it)!!!
So Happy New Year to you and all my fellow "shmoes" whom I have had the pleasure of knowing for so many years :hey:
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Have seen the site down a few times, but this seems different and it truthfully may finally be done. In that case it's a sad day, while it was never perfect and a few scams did happen (though many of them were more the result of some guys being a bit naive) and it probably did a lot to scrap the booker model which I preferred and continue to miss in the States, in the end the site was unquestionably a vast net gain for the scene. We owe Bill our thanks.
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Two of the best SG only advertise on WB270; Lora O + Ms Melissa. There are probably more.
It's worth having if it's fixed and maintained.
Mistress Treasure only (or mostly?) uses wb270 as well.
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Have seen the site down a few times, but this seems different and it truthfully may finally be done. In that case it's a sad day, while it was never perfect and a few scams did happen (though many of them were more the result of some guys being a bit naive) and it probably did a lot to scrap the booker model which I preferred and continue to miss in the States, in the end the site was unquestionably a vast net gain for the scene. We owe Bill our thanks.
Well said, and blessings to Bill . . . wherever he is.
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Again:
WB270 is on a server of The Valkyrie and that server is down.
All other silly blah blah is totally irrelevant. "Oh, I heard from this/that girl this/that" "Oh, boo hoo, Bill and The Valkyrie are a$$holes".
Took me less than a minute to see that the server of The Valkyrie is down.
Just had to type in that domain.
Even wrote down how you can check whether what I am saying is true or not.
And still you all go on and on blah-blah-ing like little babies.
Now there can be all kind of reasons why the server is down. Who knows, all people of all websites that are on the server have have been abducted by aliens to a Death By Snu Snu Planet.
But that is just speculation.
All that is there to see is: the freaking server that the website is hosted on is down.
That's all.
-Squeezemebaby
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Again:
WB270 is on a server of The Valkyrie and that server is down.
All other silly blah blah is totally irrelevant. "Oh, I heard from this/that girl this/that" "Oh, boo hoo, Bill and The Valkyrie are a$$holes".
Took me less than a minute to see that the server of The Valkyrie is down.
Just had to type in that domain.
Even wrote down how you can check whether what I am saying is true or not.
And still you all go on and on blah-blah-ing like little babies.
Now there can be all kind of reasons why the server is down. Who knows, all people of all websites that are on the server have have been abducted by aliens to a Death By Snu Snu Planet.
But that is just speculation.
All that is there to see is: the freaking server that the website is hosted on is down.
That's all.
-Squeezemebaby
Do you need a hug?
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Have seen the site down a few times, but this seems different and it truthfully may finally be done. In that case it's a sad day, while it was never perfect and a few scams did happen (though many of them were more the result of some guys being a bit naive) and it probably did a lot to scrap the booker model which I preferred and continue to miss in the States, in the end the site was unquestionably a vast net gain for the scene. We owe Bill our thanks.
11:20AM CET and I'm looking at both sites. As stated upthread, it was a temporary issue. I concluded DNS, because there are other sites running on the DtV framework which were still live while these 2 were down. It could have been something else, but these sites have been there for 25 years.
Even the biggest know-it-all skeptic has to conclude "gee, that's a lot of data indicating a very high % of uptime". Anyone trying to dismiss info by labeling 25+ years during the Internet Age as a "small sample size" is just stupid.
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Sounds good, Nujerz. Those conversations have been going on for at least 15+ years, and in that time, only Jennifer has created anything viable, despite there being plenty of opportunities for any guy/girl/company who wanted to do something. The entry threshold is lower than ever and prospective creators have more tools than ever at their disposal.
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Do you need a hug?
Haha, but yes of course, there's never enough hugging in this world!
-Squeezemebaby
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only Jennifer has created anything viable
There's www.badkity.com of Sara Lips, which is stillrelatively new and unknown, but the site works great, is easy to navigate, looks very good and has great features.
-Squeezemebaby
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There's www.badkity.com ...
Any session registry website with trans scammers go right into my bin
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The site wb270 is up and running
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Excellent News...and may Bill and Allan keep on "truckin"!!! For those of my peers who can still remember I can only say...Well King, this case is closed!!!
You buy the next one :singing:
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Hi Zenzen...at first glance I was offended by your reply to my post and wrote it off as some "newbie" when I saw only 25 posts. If you would like to know the name of my source I will gladly share it with you and I assure you you will know her...one of the most popular ladies on the scene today :woohoo:
However, as I read further I realized that you obviously know of what you are talking about and truly appreciate you're sharing your knowledge with us :clap: And what really made me laugh was when you referred to these two pioneers as "dinosaur schmoes"!!! Because I too ARE ONE (and damn proud of it)!!!
So Happy New Year to you and all my fellow "shmoes" whom I have had the pleasure of knowing for so many years :hey:
hwillish, I have never intented to offend you or another member. I'd like to apologize if you get in this way, what I'd like to emphasize is Bill and Alan are are selfish and not interested in making friendship with others. I don't think that they have a single friend from bodybuilding. I was under impression that you refer one of Bill's friend as a reliable source, since he doesn't have any friends I made an expression in this way but your meaning is probably a session woman that met Bill to be listed in his list, now it's clear but Bill will never retire and never give up even if he is 79 years old.
If you watch Bill's interview on cbsnews (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bill-burr-passwords-guidance/) you will laugh more, it's very weird. Actually my "dinosaur schmoes" definition refers some old people that never listen you do what they believe even if you tell them it's wrong, unfriendly, selfish and stubborn. Not mean senior people who deserve respect.
There are some facts. Bill created this list for having free sessions for himself, he lists women including scammer transgenders (https://saradas.org/index.php?topic=391151.0) and meet them for free. He never intended to give a free service for the schmoes. Probably his salary from National Institute of Standards and Technology (https://nistdigitalarchives.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p16009coll5/id/589/) was not enough to meet all these women. Bill doesn't care other schmoes. (https://saradas.org/index.php?topic=244792.0)
Alan created DtV to make money, he gives hosting and payment processing service and it's not free. He makes money and access all the content for free. His website is dead now but according to last years financial statement his company made 55000 GBP - British Pound (https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/03249576/filing-history)
Even he made $642 Million (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr_Solomon%27s_Antivirus) with his virus software sale, he is so greedy this is why he still scams his clients (https://naughtynuriye.blogspot.com/). He has no shame to steal members credentials (https://saradas.org/index.php?topic=221407.0) and share with third parties without privacy respect. Back in the day he sponsored some events to get free sessions.
Bill and Alan will never give something for free, they will always have an expectation from girls and people. They're selfish and unfriendly dinosaur schmoes.
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Again:
WB270 is on a server of The Valkyrie and that server is down.
All other silly blah blah is totally irrelevant. "Oh, I heard from this/that girl this/that" "Oh, boo hoo, Bill and The Valkyrie are a$$holes".
Took me less than a minute to see that the server of The Valkyrie is down.
Just had to type in that domain.
Even wrote down how you can check whether what I am saying is true or not.
And still you all go on and on blah-blah-ing like little babies.
Now there can be all kind of reasons why the server is down. Who knows, all people of all websites that are on the server have have been abducted by aliens to a Death By Snu Snu Planet.
But that is just speculation.
All that is there to see is: the freaking server that the website is hosted on is down.
That's all.
-Squeezemebaby
STOP calling me a "little baby"!! I am not little.
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It’s back 🙌
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Works just fine for me. Maybe it only lets us old guys in...lol
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STOP calling me a "little baby"!! I am not little.
No, no, no!
To be a little baby, you have to post all kind of nonsense about why the site wasn't online, come up with "but lady-big-ass-and-thighs-and-also-mega-biceps-she-loves-to-squeeze-and-she-tells-me-stuff told me this/that", and blah blah all kind of other irrelevant stuff.
You didn't, so you're not little.
You're a big boy now!
-Squeezemebaby
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By mixing a few facts with a lot of fiction, that guy is totally full of shit.
I've used Bill's list free of charge for years. In fact, I met a girl from there just a few months ago. It's fine that some people might bitter, but at the end of the day, Bill created a list that has provided incalculable value to session providers and sessiongoers. In consideration for that, he got a few "free" sessions. Not a single user of his platform ever paid him a penny. Even if he got 500 "free" sessions over the past 25 years - and it's really doubtful he did even a fraction of that amount - that would still be only $500 of compensation per month. It's obvious that no one else would do the job for that little.
Here's to Bill!
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Interesting. I always wonder who is wb270 guy and who is DtV guy. Are they bodybuilders themselves? Are they married with female bodybuilders?
I'm a bit disappointed. I can't image these girls meeting these out of shape 100 years old farts.
Lol, this is kind of the pot calling the kettle black. I’ve been to events (like fetish wrestling events) and fitness expos, and I gotta say, the VAST majority of schmoes I see are VERY out of shape.
I don’t know if it’s my own biases because I train frequently and lift heavy, but my god, a lot of schmoes would do so much better with attracting buff women if they actually hit the weights. I find it kind of ironic, really lol
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STOP calling me a "little baby"!! I am not little.
No, no, no!
To be a little baby, you have to post all kind of nonsense about why the site wasn't online, come up with "but lady-big-ass-and-thighs-and-also-mega-biceps-she-loves-to-squeeze-and-she-tells-me-stuff told me this/that", and blah blah all kind of other irrelevant stuff.
You didn't, so you're not little.
You're a big boy now!
-Squeezemebaby
I am, however, a baby. Vas and Jerz will confirm this. ;)
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Interesting. I always wonder who is wb270 guy and who is DtV guy. Are they bodybuilders themselves? Are they married with female bodybuilders?
I'm a bit disappointed. I can't image these girls meeting these out of shape 100 years old farts.
A variation on the Dangerfield Coefficient ("If you wanna look thin, hang around fat people!"); if you wanna look ultra-manly, hang around schmoes. Worked for me on multiple occasions.
#oldfartsstillgetbulkettesyo
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Sessiongirls will soon be subscription based and you need to be verified to get contact information with providers
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I received some requests about DtV guy.
Dr Alan Solomon delivering his keynote presentation in 2010.
https://archive.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00001956.html
An article from 2009
The Solomons sold their stake to a management buyout team for £30m in February 1996, retaining valuable share options that will have netted further millions when the company was sold in 1998 for £393m
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/dr-alan-and-susan-solomon-qk5jjplc9tg
By 1995, the company had grown substantially and moved to premises in Aylesbury. There are now over 240 staff, in the UK, US and Germany and the company has a turnover of £25 million. Following a management buyout in February 1996, Dr Solomon is now a non-executive Director of S&S; International Holdings Ltd. He continues his commitment to the company via a consultancy arrangement, working in the anti-virus technical arena and speaking at conferences, shows and seminars.
https://web.archive.org/web/19970414174851/http://www.drsolomon.com/company/alan.html
My name is Angie Silver and welcome to SilverSpoon London, my luxury lifestyle, food and travel blog. (One of Alan's daughters)
http://www.silverspoonlondon.co.uk/about-me
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It’s pretty funny to read through this thread, lots of history here and I definitely remember using the site all the way back in the 90s. But the fact still remains, these gentlemen have been an asset to the sport/wrestling/fetish community and the fact that they do this shows their dedication and I definitely owe them a huge debt of gratitude.
But unfortunately they are up there in age and I do wonder if the site does eventually get taken down, what I would it do to our community. I’m not a big fan of the sessiongirls site, and it just seems like it would be more difficult to find people that I would be interested in.
Bravo and kudos to these two dudes and I hope they make it well into their 100’s LOL.
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DCReviews - can you elaborate on why you are not a big fan of the SessionGirls.com site? I have used the wb270 site since the 1990’s and still use it in conjunction with the SessionGirls website. If/When the wb270 website is no longer up, I will rely solely on the SessionGirls website to find session women to see.
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DCReviews - can you elaborate on why you are not a big fan of the SessionGirls.com site? I have used the wb270 site since the 1990’s and still use it in conjunction with the SessionGirls website. If/When the wb270 website is no longer up, I will rely solely on the SessionGirls website to find session women to see.
My only two complaints are that there are several women who use WB who don't use SG, and Travelers are a little easier to find on WB, or maybe I'm just more accustomed to their format.
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DCReviews - can you elaborate on why you are not a big fan of the SessionGirls.com site? I have used the wb270 site since the 1990’s and still use it in conjunction with the SessionGirls website. If/When the wb270 website is no longer up, I will rely solely on the SessionGirls website to find session women to see.
My only two complaints are that there are several women who use WB who don't use SG, and Travelers are a little easier to find on WB, or maybe I'm just more accustomed to their format.
SG is likely an ecort ad list. Most of these women has no sport background. They even list some faceless, weirdo guys now.
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Two of the best SG only advertise on WB270; Lora O + Ms Melissa. There are probably more.
It's worth having if it's fixed and maintained.
Mistress Treasure only (or mostly?) uses wb270 as well.
Heard that Bill loves Mistress Treasure's BBC strap-on so much
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My only two complaints are that there are several women who use WB who don't use SG, and Travelers are a little easier to find on WB, or maybe I'm just more accustomed to their format.
I find it is easier to look up travelers on the computer as I only need to click twice (USA Girls, then state on the left side of page) to find SessionGirls coming to my area. On a mobile device, I need to type in state or city. I also like the feature that I can "follow" my favorite SessionGirls and be notified when they change their profile, usually to add travel dates.
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Some of the girls have complained that SG looks too much like a dating website. The UI is a mess, and they keep trying to build new features instead of fixing the existing ones. It's nice that the girls can update their schedules in real-time. Some annoying quirks like their profiles usually say the city and not the state, sometimes it's not obvious where they're located if they indicate their suburb instead of the main city they're near, and also some things like Washington state will include the Washington DC listings. Travel entries expire before they should, which hurts if you're trying to schedule something last-minute.
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Some of the girls have complained that SG looks too much like a dating website. The UI is a mess, and they keep trying to build new features instead of fixing the existing ones. It's nice that the girls can update their schedules in real-time. Some annoying quirks like their profiles usually say the city and not the state, sometimes it's not obvious where they're located if they indicate their suburb instead of the main city they're near, and also some things like Washington state will include the Washington DC listings. Travel entries expire before they should, which hurts if you're trying to schedule something last-minute.
I could see why they might think that. Overall, I think it's pretty easy to use. I agree they don't need to keep adding things.
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I have talked to some who feel WB is for more serious clients who know what they want whereas SG is more for people who have the itch to scratch.
I wish both would clean up the people who have been listed since 2005 with no reviews. I doubt they are active still.
I agree about SG. Focus on the user experience. How hard would it be to add a drop-down with dynamic cities? Or, the ability to filter by other items? Logging in, account maintenance, subscribing to a girl, etc. I would love to be able to watch a City as opposed to an individual girl.
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I have talked to some who feel WB is for more serious clients who know what they want whereas SG is more for people who have the itch to scratch.
I wish both would clean up the people who have been listed since 2005 with no reviews. I doubt they are active still.
I noticed the number of SessionGirls went down recently as they took down profiles of those who have not logged in during the last 6 months.
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I have talked to some who feel WB is for more serious clients who know what they want whereas SG is more for people who have the itch to scratch.
I wish both would clean up the people who have been listed since 2005 with no reviews. I doubt they are active still.
I noticed the number of SessionGirls went down recently as they took down profiles of those who have not logged in during the last 6 months.
The girls have to pay a monthly fee right with sessiongirls whereas with wb270 it's free?
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The girls have to pay a monthly fee right with sessiongirls whereas with wb270 it's free?
I know there is a "tier" membership system with SessionGirls, but there has been a "free" option. With the free option they can not post travel and other things. It may change to a format that all SessionGirls will need to pay though. It might be a good idea as it would get rid of those not "serious" about doing sessions, but also may eliminate SessionGirls who don't want to pay at all and just be listed on wb270 site. I don't think the pricing is outrageous for what they are getting to have a profile on SessionGirls.
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DCReviews - can you elaborate on why you are not a big fan of the SessionGirls.com site? I have used the wb270 site since the 1990’s and still use it in conjunction with the SessionGirls website. If/When the wb270 website is no longer up, I will rely solely on the SessionGirls website to find session women to see.
I guess some of the fears that I have about the sessiongirls website is if WB ever goes down they will push the woman more to pay for the SG site, they would have a kind of monopoly on this type of session community.
I’m not sure how many of them would actually be diligent enough or would feel that it would be worth it to pay a higher premium.
Some issues that I’ve had with the website are that the travel section is more difficult to search through than the WB. They keep changing the UI and it has a bunch of bugs. Sometimes I will search for a session provider and they are there and sometimes they are not. Because the ladies do a lot of their own posting, they don’t uniform their posts in terms of their locations. One person might say Los Angeles and one person might just say LA, which just makes it harder to search people in the local section. I could go on but you get the point.
Frankly I prefer the simplicity in the text based format of the WB site. I’m old school lol. But of course the sessiongirls site has some advantages, if the ladies update their section themselves then the information theoretically can be more up-to-date. And they have more up-to-date pictures.
I do remember in an older thread (https://saradas.org/index.php?topic=847516.0) that somebody was complaining the person who owned sessiongirls was not paying them and that they refuse to continue working on it, but who knows if any of that is true. I guess my point is they don’t seem to have a stable team keeping that site going.
Thoughts?
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(a) Jennifer is friends with a good deal of them, and would feel hesitant to exploit them. For example, when COVID started, she waived all payments at least for a month or so. I realize this isn't a great mechanism to rely on since people can always do "bad" things they never imagined if their back is against a wall if we enter a depression or whatever. I suspect she'd stop paying her web developer and would only pay him to fix urgent things on an as-needed basis in that kind of situation.
If girls had to pay more, they'd either charge more, or just rely on getting word out over twit*** or whatever (which they already do because the email notification system doesn't work and the website may not drive session reqeusts).
(b) Agree the UI sucks. Some of the states are listed out of order, some countries are listed twice, the spinner is really laggy and crappy, a search for "Gia" (as in Gia Primo) will give you all the results from Georgia and Virginia because those states contain "gia" as a substring. They keep on trying to build new crap instead of fixing what they have, like I said above.
(c) If something got really disastrous, some guys out there could throw together a barebones website (i.e., no clip stores, no guys' profiles) where the girls could still update travel/their profiles themselves in a week that would cost no more than a few bucks per month total. But a lot of girls wouldn't trust using it if it's made by a guy, many would think the guy is trying to take over, has ulterior motives, etc.
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It seems to me there are fewer great girls entering the scene than a decade ago. This may be a bigger issue long-term. If I've got the same 3-5 girls I see, especially if I usually have to travel to them, the only purpose for the website is to know whether they will be traveling so I can book a time when they'll be at home. I've seen several promising-looking girls lately who signed up, then quit and removed her profile before jumping into the deep end. That's from my perspective. Of course it would hurt the girls for the website to disappear, as there are many guys they see once who don't end up re-booking.
I do remember in an older thread that somebody was complaining the person who owned sessiongirls was not paying them and that they refuse to continue working on it, but who knows if any of that is true.
Jennifer was offering sessions to the old webmaster in exchange for web dev services, he took over the site, there was a bunch of drama, he claimed he paid for all of the costs out of pocket, plus paid Jennifer's bills. Don't know how much of this is true, but Jennifer hired a cheap web dev, built out a new website, and kicked the old dev out a year or so ago. It seems she's trying to build up a bigger platform and grow her business and transition from being just a session provider to more of a manager, obviously a lot of things are still broken.
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I may have misinterpreted your first part, I was reading it as Jennifer increasing prices. If it's about wb270 disappearing, pretty sure SG has a free tier where you just can't list (indexable) travel. Some girls still put their travel in their profile description to get around this. Still, I don't think the fees are very substantial. Something like $20-40/month depending on tier. If they're doing even a single session per month, this should be easy to pay for.
A monopoly in some ways isn't such a bad thing. It's nice to have one place to look for sessions or videos or whatever. Every girl having her own website, twit***, insta****, onlyfans, having to look for things in a multitude of places creates a higher barrier to scheduling sessions or buying videos.
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The sessiongirls site now has trans-people and a guy section too. More stuff to navigate through that I don't care to see. I wish she would just have a separate website or link for that other business.
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Yeah, I could do without the trans and shirtless schmoes updates on the Sessiongirls site, but maybe there was clamor for that.
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The sessiongirls site now has trans-people and a guy section too. More stuff to navigate through that I don't care to see. I wish she would just have a separate website or link for that other business.
Surprisingly enough Emma Switch (https://saradas.org/index.php?topic=391151.0) is still not under trans-people section and continue her scam under girls section. Jennifer knows this but doesn't take action. Probably there're more trans-people under girls section.
Some guys meet these people without knowing that they meet trans-people. This is disgusting.
https://saradas.org/index.php?topic=391151.0
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I have no issue with my trans brothers and sisters being listed on a session provider website I look at to find sis female providers. I don’t think their presence is disgusting.
HOWEVER, is someone (like Emma Switch) is trans and isn’t listed as such, this is bullshit. If you’re paying to get something based on its description, the description should be accurate.
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The sessiongirls site now has trans-people and a guy section too. More stuff to navigate through that I don't care to see. I wish she would just have a separate website or link for that other business.
Lol, those sections are not that hard to avoid my man.
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The sessiongirls site now has trans-people and a guy section too. More stuff to navigate through that I don't care to see. I wish she would just have a separate website or link for that other business.
They’re separate sections, so you don’t have to look at them at all. Very simple. You don’t have to navigate through it all. Stop being ridiculous.
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I've had no issues.
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Some of the states are listed out of order
Which states are listed out of order? They look fine to me
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Some of the states are listed out of order
Which states are listed out of order? They look fine to me
Rhode Island, South Carolina, North Dakota, ... (North Dakota is also listed in the right spot, it is a duplicate). I guess it's missing South Dakota, and there's a manual typo somewhere.
Then Washington followed by Washington DC, even though Washington includes Washington DC listings
Under international, Algeria comes after Canada. Algeria also comes after Cyprus. Algeria is also listed after Georgia.
Honestly, it'd probably be good to only list states/countries with at least 1 listing. Way too much clutter.
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Some of the states are listed out of order
Which states are listed out of order? They look fine to me
Rhode Island, South Carolina, North Dakota, ... (North Dakota is also listed in the right spot, it is a duplicate). I guess it's missing South Dakota, and there's a manual typo somewhere.
Then Washington followed by Washington DC, even though Washington includes Washington DC listings
Under international, Algeria comes after Canada. Algeria also comes after Cyprus. Algeria is also listed after Georgia.
Honestly, it'd probably be good to only list states/countries with at least 1 listing. Way too much clutter.
Bill is 79 years old...
You can watch this weird video, this is the wb270 guy
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bill-burr-passwords-guidance/
I wouldn't expect a perfect website from a 80 years old man
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Sessiongirls seems to get a majority of the traffic by far, but I recently went onto WB270 just to take a "look see" and yes there's a lot of "dead wood", but some of the real "gems" of the session world are found exclusively on WB270. Still nice to have OPTIONS :cool2:
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If you are trying to separate the profiles of active women from those that are inactive on wb270, look at the travellers posted there. All of the travellers are active session providers.
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Beg to differ...Arekah Lox (retired) Backzilla (saw her last March and she needed knee surgery before getting married in June) Lauren Blaine (married and retired) Boss Lady (laura carolyn) Kasie Cavanaugh (major surgeries) Demonika (long gone) :singing: Not being judgemental...just saying!!!
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Beg to differ...Arekah Lox (retired) Backzilla (saw her last March and she needed knee surgery before getting married in June) Lauren Blaine (married and retired) Boss Lady (laura carolyn) Kasie Cavanaugh (major surgeries) Demonika (long gone) :singing: Not being judgemental...just saying!!!
I'm not sure if you were replying to my comment about travelling women listed on wb270 still being active, but if I'm not mistaken, none of those women are listed as travelling. I dont care to scan the list of travellers to see if I made an error. Also, Boss Lady is still active. I saw her last week.
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Guess we have two sets of "parameters"...let's just say and agree a significant % of the ladies have not done sessions for a long time and leave it at that ;) As to Boss Lady, I am truly envious and you are one lucky guy. I saw her whenever I could when I was in southern Florida and she would spend a couple of months during the winter at her mother's house. Love those canadian ladies...lol!!!
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(a) Jennifer is friends with a good deal of them, and would feel hesitant to exploit them. For example, when COVID started, she waived all payments at least for a month or so. I realize this isn't a great mechanism to rely on since people can always do "bad" things they never imagined if their back is against a wall if we enter a depression or whatever. I suspect she'd stop paying her web developer and would only pay him to fix urgent things on an as-needed basis in that kind of situation.
If girls had to pay more, they'd either charge more, or just rely on getting word out over twit*** or whatever (which they already do because the email notification system doesn't work and the website may not drive session reqeusts).
(b) Agree the UI sucks. Some of the states are listed out of order, some countries are listed twice, the spinner is really laggy and crappy, a search for "Gia" (as in Gia Primo) will give you all the results from Georgia and Virginia because those states contain "gia" as a substring. They keep on trying to build new crap instead of fixing what they have, like I said above.
(c) If something got really disastrous, some guys out there could throw together a barebones website (i.e., no clip stores, no guys' profiles) where the girls could still update travel/their profiles themselves in a week that would cost no more than a few bucks per month total. But a lot of girls wouldn't trust using it if it's made by a guy, many would think the guy is trying to take over, has ulterior motives, etc.
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It seems to me there are fewer great girls entering the scene than a decade ago. This may be a bigger issue long-term. If I've got the same 3-5 girls I see, especially if I usually have to travel to them, the only purpose for the website is to know whether they will be traveling so I can book a time when they'll be at home. I've seen several promising-looking girls lately who signed up, then quit and removed her profile before jumping into the deep end. That's from my perspective. Of course it would hurt the girls for the website to disappear, as there are many guys they see once who don't end up re-booking.
I do remember in an older thread (https://saradas.org/index.php?topic=847516.0) that somebody was complaining the person who owned sessiongirls was not paying them and that they refuse to continue working on it, but who knows if any of that is true.
Jennifer was offering sessions to the old webmaster in exchange for web dev services, he took over the site, there was a bunch of drama, he claimed he paid for all of the costs out of pocket, plus paid Jennifer's bills. Don't know how much of this is true, but Jennifer hired a cheap web dev, built out a new website, and kicked the old dev out a year or so ago. It seems she's trying to build up a bigger platform and grow her business and transition from being just a session provider to more of a manager, obviously a lot of things are still broken.
Thank you for the added info and clarification on some issues. 🖖🏽
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Hi Zenzen...at first glance I was offended by your reply to my post and wrote it off as some "newbie" when I saw only 25 posts. If you would like to know the name of my source I will gladly share it with you and I assure you you will know her...one of the most popular ladies on the scene today :woohoo:
However, as I read further I realized that you obviously know of what you are talking about and truly appreciate you're sharing your knowledge with us :clap: And what really made me laugh was when you referred to these two pioneers as "dinosaur schmoes"!!! Because I too ARE ONE (and damn proud of it)!!!
So Happy New Year to you and all my fellow "shmoes" whom I have had the pleasure of knowing for so many years :hey:
hwillish, I have never intented to offend you or another member. I'd like to apologize if you get in this way, what I'd like to emphasize is Bill and Alan are are selfish and not interested in making friendship with others. I don't think that they have a single friend from bodybuilding. I was under impression that you refer one of Bill's friend as a reliable source, since he doesn't have any friends I made an expression in this way but your meaning is probably a session woman that met Bill to be listed in his list, now it's clear but Bill will never retire and never give up even if he is 79 years old.
If you watch Bill's interview on cbsnews (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bill-burr-passwords-guidance/) you will laugh more, it's very weird. Actually my "dinosaur schmoes" definition refers some old people that never listen you do what they believe even if you tell them it's wrong, unfriendly, selfish and stubborn. Not mean senior people who deserve respect.
There are some facts. Bill created this list for having free sessions for himself, he lists women including scammer transgenders (https://saradas.org/index.php?topic=391151.0) and meet them for free. He never intended to give a free service for the schmoes. Probably his salary from National Institute of Standards and Technology (https://nistdigitalarchives.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p16009coll5/id/589/) was not enough to meet all these women. Bill doesn't care other schmoes. (https://saradas.org/index.php?topic=244792.0)
Alan created DtV to make money, he gives hosting and payment processing service and it's not free. He makes money and access all the content for free. His website is dead now but according to last years financial statement his company made 55000 GBP - British Pound (https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/03249576/filing-history)
Even he made $642 Million (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr_Solomon%27s_Antivirus) with his virus software sale, he is so greedy this is why he still scams his clients (https://naughtynuriye.blogspot.com/). He has no shame to steal members credentials (https://saradas.org/index.php?topic=221407.0) and share with third parties without privacy respect. Back in the day he sponsored some events to get free sessions.
Bill and Alan will never give something for free, they will always have an expectation from girls and people. They're selfish and unfriendly dinosaur schmoes.
Why Disappointment Hurts More?
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Imaginary wb270 guy Bill
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Actual wb270 guy Bill
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Imaginary DianaTheValkrie Ms.Diana
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Actual DianaTheValkrie millionnaire Alan Solomon
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I just saw where WB270 will no longer be updated as of 7/31 and will disappear entirely on 8/7. End of an era…
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I just saw where WB270 will no longer be updated as of 7/31 and will disappear entirely on 8/7. End of an era…
Guy who ran it never wanted or had any intentions of selling the website or give control to someone else to update it. Session Girls with its issues seems to be the go to spot.
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It will be interesting to see if the ladies who are not currently listed on Sessiongirls or badkity will move to those sites.
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Guy who ran it never wanted or had any intentions of selling the website or give control to someone else to update it. Session Girls with its issues seems to be the go to spot.
His site isn't really anything anybody else couldn't do. Somebody tomorrow could start something called wb280 or something like that, operating the same way if they wanted to.
But I doubt anyone is willing to do what he did, which is basically manually updating everything all the time. Regardless, it's definitely an end of an era. Sad to see it go.
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May be a dumb question, but what does “wb270” stand for?
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Didn't see this note on the site but…
As someone who literally checked the site every week while it's been around (give or take a few times when I was working in remote spots during the pre-cell internet dark ages etc) WB was indirectly responsible for so many awesome experiences over the years. My thanks owed to him for being the first one to really try to keep a good directory of available ladies is incalculable.
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Ah, the note is at the top of the big list (names) travel page not the regional ones.
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End of an era. So many women on here that aren't on SG. I don't think many of them will move to SG either.
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End of an era. So many women on here that aren't on SG. I don't think many of them will move to SG either.
Alot of the women on there want to keep their privacy. Wb270 correct me if I am wrong but it was a free service for ladies to advertise themselves on there right?
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End of an era. So many women on here that aren't on SG. I don't think many of them will move to SG either.
Alot of the women on there want to keep their privacy. Wb270 correct me if I am wrong but it was a free service for ladies to advertise themselves on there right?
From their homepage: Wb270.com does not book or arrange wrestling sessions for any wrestler, it simply provides contact information and descriptions of the women and what they offer. There is no charge to either the men or to the women listed.
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100% free all these years. wb provided the labor, DtV provided the hosting and bandwidth.
May be a dumb question, but what does “wb270” stand for?
Not dumb at all. It's surprising more people haven't asked. lol It's just initials and a highway number, no other meaning whatsoever. The beauty of simplicity...
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100% free all these years. wb provided the labor, DtV provided the hosting and bandwidth.
Yeah, it was a seriously great service he provided. Because of him, I met some legendary FBBs I would've never imagined being able to meet several years before.
I recall a couple people in recent years complaining or just being jealous of him getting a free session or somebody else trying to "out" his real identity for whatever reason. As if he didn't deserve a session for the service he provided for everyone (for free) and all of his own time he took to do it.
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100% free all these years. wb provided the labor, DtV provided the hosting and bandwidth.
Yeah, it was a seriously great service he provided. Because of him, I met some legendary FBBs I would've never imagined being able to meet several years before.
I recall a couple people in recent years complaining or just being jealous of him getting a free session or somebody else trying to "out" his real identity for whatever reason. As if he didn't deserve a session for the service he provided for everyone (for free) and all of his own time he took to do it.
I remember that thread because the dude was also ragging on the guy's (and the guy who ran Diana The Valkyrie) appearance. Like, yeah, he looks like an out of shape computer engineer, but does he really look that much different from your average schmoe? Sounded like the pot calling the kettle black.
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There are some popular SG who are only on WB270. They should get on SG to be seen by new guys.
Most active SG are on both WB + SG. Some don't update WB, like they do SG.
WB has a lot of inactive/retired SG still on there.
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He's been da maaan for all these years and truly the "bedrock" of what sessioning has been for almost 4 decades :singing:!!! Of anybody in this industry, he deserves the biggest accolades and thanks for his service to "humanity" :bravo:
Thank you for your service...
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I second that. Legend.
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100% free all these years. wb provided the labor, DtV provided the hosting and bandwidth.
May be a dumb question, but what does “wb270” stand for?
Not dumb at all. It's surprising more people haven't asked. lol It's just initials and a highway number, no other meaning whatsoever. The beauty of simplicity...
“wb270” stand for his name initials. His name is William Edward Burr. Two alternative names for him: William Burr, Bill E Burr.
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It was great resource for many years- I received a text yesterday from a session provider who didn’t know where to post now- she was unaware surprisingly about SG- Lora O is another that is only on wb- suppose she will have to switch too
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He's been da maaan for all these years and truly the "bedrock" of what sessioning has been for almost 4 decades :singing:!!! Of anybody in this industry, he deserves the biggest accolades and thanks for his service to "humanity" :bravo:
Thank you for your service...
Totally agree, to do this for free for all these years speaks to his character and genuine devotion to the ladies and people who enjoy their services. Sad.
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It was great resource for many years- I received a text yesterday from a session provider who didn’t know where to post now- she was unaware surprisingly about SG- Lora O is another that is only on wb- suppose she will have to switch too
Lora set up a sessiongirls profile
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Definitely an end of an era for schmoes. Without wb270 I don't know if I even would have met 80% of the wonderful ladies I've been lucky enough to spend time with. Thanks, WB! :clap: :clap: :clap:
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I see Lora O on SG now.
I wonder if mister WB had any takers to continue WB270?
As long as SG continues operating, it's good now.
I believe other girls only on WB will be informed by their session guy fans. :)
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I see Lora O on SG now.
I wonder if mister WB had any takers to continue WB270?
As long as SG continues operating, it's good now.
I believe other girls only on WB will be informed by their session guy fans. :)
Plenty of ladies have offered to buy the site over the years.
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I first discovered WB270 during the golden age of the internet. I knew then that I was not alone. In those days, individuals made their own websites for the purpose of communicating something special and unique to the reader. There were strange and awe-inspiring websites that have all disappeared over the years: Mullets Galore and Heartless Bitches were brilliant depictions of idiosyncratic pursuits. The Muscles of Dee Kay, Girl Beats a Boy, Uncle Chaos and Lucifer's Custom entertained our community, along with WB270 and Diana the Valkyrie. The end of WB's site is inevitable, because William B chooses not to continue it.
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Plenty of ladies have offered to buy the site over the years.
It doesn't surprise me he wouldn't let some schmoe take over his site, but I'm a little surprised he wouldn't sell to a reputable session lady.
But this dude definitely wasn't like the "rest of us". He was an introverted guy who did his own thing and didn't want anyone up in his business. Regardless, cheers to him as his site was responsible for making many a schmoes fantasies come to life.
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I'm pretty sure wb270 was created and administered by Bill Wick
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Lora O who wasn’t previously on SG has a profile now- sure others will move over also
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I'm pretty sure wb270 was created and administered by Bill Wick
No. If you take a minute and read the thread, you will know who created and administered WB270.
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I'm pretty sure wb270 was created and administered by Bill Wick
No, that would make him Will Bick.
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Ahhh...Bill Wick :singing: The "other legend" who still is active and involved with our own little world!!!!
His video store (Bill Wicks Videos) which initially featured his wife Kay Baxter (who unfortunately passed on waaaay too soon) and many of the ladies who we would have given our "eye teeth" to have met...certainly deserves a place in our Schmoe's Hall of Fame!!!
AND he is accessible as shown by his attendance at Jennifer's latest Women of Fire event in Vegas in June.
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Talk about a living legend. I would love for Bill Wick's story - beyond his incredible library - to be memorialized for posterity.
I'm pretty sure wb270 was created and administered by Bill Wick
No, that would make him Will Bick.
You'll never get the credit you deserved from this audience.
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I'm pretty sure wb270 was created and administered by Bill Wick
No. If you take a minute and read the thread, you will know who created and administered WB270.
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pat777 your comment made my day, thank you so much :D
Bill Wick (https://saradas.org/index.php?action=profile;u=99629) and wb270 (https://saradas.org/index.php?action=profile;u=100233) are always online on Saradas, Bill Wick (https://saradas.org/index.php?action=profile;u=99629) was last active on July 29, 2023 , wb270 (https://saradas.org/index.php?action=profile;u=100233) was last active July 20, 2023. I'm sure your comment will make their day too.
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Ms Melissa set up a SG account too
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"I am shocked and saddened as a Mixed Wrestler from the announcement of WB270 ending. Bill changed my life , giving me freedom, adventures and opportunities. I am forever grateful to him , i hope he realizes the impact he has made in many lives ❤️🤼♀️🙏"
Jennifer just gave her appreciation for Bill and the site, from her Twitter.
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Ms Xena now on SG - if she would only come to NY sometime
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The note on wb270 about no longer being updated and will end Aug 7th is no longer up - did they have a change of mind?
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It's still published on the European Traveler List page.
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Now it's closed up. End of an era 🫡
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Yes...it was a good site and I used it more than a few times
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I gotta admit it's bumming me out more than I expected
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And Schmoe Nation was sad . . . justifiably. :'(
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And Schmoe Nation was sad . . . justifiably. :'(
If it took the untimely demise of WB270 to bring you back amongst us, then my tears will be of joy. Welcome back. I hope all is well. Don't be a stranger.
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And Schmoe Nation was sad . . . justifiably. :'(
If it took the untimely demise of WB270 to bring you back amongst us, then my tears will be of joy. Welcome back. I hope all is well. Don't be a stranger.
Perhaps in all the sadness some happiness can come out of it lol.
Yeah and wb270 certainly changed my life. Stumbled upon in it in 1999, booked my first session that summer after using it to start the set up and never look back since.
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Sure beat the hell out of searching your favorite local store's magazine rack to buy Robert Kennedy's Muscle Magazine which happened to have quarter page ads in the back featuring ladies such as my very first session with the incomparable
Iron Raven Maiden in Chicago :wow: Where the hell has the time gone???
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probably have entered that wb270 site more then any site in my life.
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probably have entered that wb270 site more then any site in my life.
Certainly no website has costed me more money unless you count like the bank or something for the mortgage. It was worth every penny though. Next year will mark 25 years of sessioning and only a few weren't not worth it and I wouldn't say they were "bad sessions" just not good and rather spent it on someone else.
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This is one of the most heartbreaking threads I’ve seen❤️🩹
I attempted to log into WB270.com last night and got the following error message:
“This web site is now closed”
“The wb270 list of wrestling women is now closed”
I was hoping it was a temporary glitch, but when I saw it again today, I turned to this trusty forum to find out what’s up.
Now I know.
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Even though the entrance page is gone, the website is still there: https://www.wb270.com/ndx.htm, in case you want to browse through it for as long as you can.
-Squeezemebaby
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I noticed that also - though since schedules aren’t being updated of limited use- though you can find sessionettes by state which might be helpful
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I found out from a SG that there is now a WB270wrestlers.com
It's still kinda crude. Can't tell if the girls on there were converted or requested to be on the new site.
The list of girls is not in any useful order at this time. Profile info is minimal.
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I found out from a SG that there is now a WB270wrestlers.com
It's still kinda crude. Can't tell if the girls on there were converted or requested to be on the new site.
The list of girls is not in any useful order at this time. Profile info is minimal.
Needs work, but it's already got one of the best features WB270 had that SG doesn't. Tour info is sorted by date. So if I want to see who's visiting this weekend I can. On SG you have to pick through all the results returned as tiles and hope you don't miss anything.
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Hopefully they keep up with it like Bill did who updated regularly doe decades.
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Even though the entrance page is gone, the website is still there: https://www.wb270.com/ndx.htm, in case you want to browse through it for as long as you can.
-Squeezemebaby
Whenever I've been reminded here or on other sites how long I was involved being dominated via wrestling, scissors, etc. by female bodybuilders and fitness gals, I've gone back to where it started for me, the wb270.com. I was active from 2002 until Covid, early 2020, I would sometimes go back to count how many ladies listed there I sessioned with. Some were removed from the site after retirement, but many weren't. And for those I never saw it was almost like a "Who's Who" or a "Hall of Fame" of session providers.
I'm still surprised the guy who founded it didn't sell the site. And I love the ill-informed posts on a variety of sites, a couple of the BDSM and S&M variety, who came up with conspiracy theories on why wb270.com closed and what it means.
For me it is an end of an era. Hat tip to the owner.
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I have one question about Sessiongirls. Isn't there an overview where I can see all girls who I follow?
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I have one question about Sessiongirls. Isn't there an overview where I can see all girls who I follow?
You have to be logged in for that, I think, then there is a little "follow me" button right before the profile part where they talk about themselves.
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And Schmoe Nation was sad . . . justifiably. :'(
If it took the untimely demise of WB270 to bring you back amongst us, then my tears will be of joy. Welcome back. I hope all is well. Don't be a stranger.
Thanks, mon. Surgeries, COVID . . . old age. LOL! The reason the demise of wb270 makes ME so sad is that when I had my very first sessions, it was from an ad in the back of Robert Kennedy's MuscleMag classified section; there was no internet. "Physical Culture." Any old-timers will recognize to whom I'm referring. Also, led to my first fbb gf . . . and what an eye-opening experience THAT was. Ahhh, memories.
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Bulk...we are obviously "brothers from another mother" :hey: Forgot about Physical Culture!!!
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Bulk...we are obviously "brothers from another mother" :hey: Forgot about Physical Culture!!!
I like his avatar.
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I'm pretty sure wb270 was created and administered by Bill Wick
No. If you take a minute and read the thread, you will know who created and administered WB270.
(https://i.ibb.co/rp0NVN5/Infamous-Sniveling-Bobcat-max-1mb.gif)
pat777 your comment made my day, thank you so much :D
Bill Wick (https://saradas.org/index.php?action=profile;u=99629) and wb270 (https://saradas.org/index.php?action=profile;u=100233) are always online on Saradas, Bill Wick (https://saradas.org/index.php?action=profile;u=99629) was last active on July 29, 2023 , wb270 (https://saradas.org/index.php?action=profile;u=100233) was last active July 20, 2023. I'm sure your comment will make their day too.
How can you tell? I can't see there profiles.
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I'll miss the website. I'm glad there was somewhere consistent I could search for ladies traveling doing this fetish.
However, I don't understand why he didn't sell the website or the database. Why let all that information go to waste. It's his to let go to waste, but I just don't understand why.
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I'm pretty sure wb270 was created and administered by Bill Wick
No. If you take a minute and read the thread, you will know who created and administered WB270.
(https://i.ibb.co/rp0NVN5/Infamous-Sniveling-Bobcat-max-1mb.gif)
pat777 your comment made my day, thank you so much :D
Bill Wick (https://saradas.org/index.php?action=profile;u=99629) and wb270 (https://saradas.org/index.php?action=profile;u=100233) are always online on Saradas, Bill Wick (https://saradas.org/index.php?action=profile;u=99629) was last active on July 29, 2023 , wb270 (https://saradas.org/index.php?action=profile;u=100233) was last active July 20, 2023. I'm sure your comment will make their day too.
How can you tell? I can't see there profiles.
Because you're New member. You are not allowed to access profiles.
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I'm pretty sure wb270 was created and administered by Bill Wick
No. If you take a minute and read the thread, you will know who created and administered WB270.
(https://i.ibb.co/rp0NVN5/Infamous-Sniveling-Bobcat-max-1mb.gif)
pat777 your comment made my day, thank you so much :D
Bill Wick (https://saradas.org/index.php?action=profile;u=99629) and wb270 (https://saradas.org/index.php?action=profile;u=100233) are always online on Saradas, Bill Wick (https://saradas.org/index.php?action=profile;u=99629) was last active on July 29, 2023 , wb270 (https://saradas.org/index.php?action=profile;u=100233) was last active July 20, 2023. I'm sure your comment will make their day too.
How can you tell? I can't see there profiles.
Because you're New member. You are not allowed to access profiles.
I've been a member since 2015. I just don't post much.
I wonder how many posts to see profiles.
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I'm pretty sure wb270 was created and administered by Bill Wick
No. If you take a minute and read the thread, you will know who created and administered WB270.
(https://i.ibb.co/rp0NVN5/Infamous-Sniveling-Bobcat-max-1mb.gif)
pat777 your comment made my day, thank you so much :D
Bill Wick (https://saradas.org/index.php?action=profile;u=99629) and wb270 (https://saradas.org/index.php?action=profile;u=100233) are always online on Saradas, Bill Wick (https://saradas.org/index.php?action=profile;u=99629) was last active on July 29, 2023 , wb270 (https://saradas.org/index.php?action=profile;u=100233) was last active July 20, 2023. I'm sure your comment will make their day too.
How can you tell? I can't see there profiles.
Because you're New member. You are not allowed to access profiles.
I've been a member since 2015. I just don't post much.
I wonder how many posts to see profiles.
Have you ever seen this?
2342 Members Banned — and counting
https://saradas.org/index.php?topic=924459.0
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I have one question about Sessiongirls. Isn't there an overview where I can see all girls who I follow?
You have to be logged in for that, I think, then there is a little "follow me" button right before the profile part where they talk about themselves.
Yes, I know and I follow some girls. The problem is that I cannot see an overview of my follows. I allways have to search the girl new to get at her profile.
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I Have a technical problem with wb270. My browsers Chrime and Edge don't allow me to visit the site because it is not a private connection for them. Can you help me?
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I Have a technical problem with wb270. My browsers Chrime and Edge don't allow me to visit the site because it is not a private connection for them. Can you help me?
You know the site is down for good, right?
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I'm pretty sure wb270 was created and administered by Bill Wick
No. If you take a minute and read the thread, you will know who created and administered WB270.
pat777 your comment made my day, thank you so much :D
Bill Wick (https://saradas.org/index.php?action=profile;u=99629) and wb270 (https://saradas.org/index.php?action=profile;u=100233) are always online on Saradas, Bill Wick (https://saradas.org/index.php?action=profile;u=99629) was last active on July 29, 2023 , wb270 (https://saradas.org/index.php?action=profile;u=100233) was last active July 20, 2023. I'm sure your comment will make their day too.
How can you tell? I can't see there profiles.
Because you're New member. You are not allowed to access profiles.
I've been a member since 2015. I just don't post much.
I wonder how many posts to see profiles.
Have you ever seen this?
2342 Members Banned — and counting
https://saradas.org/index.php?topic=924459.0
My name isn't on the list.
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I'm pretty sure wb270 was created and administered by Bill Wick
No. If you take a minute and read the thread, you will know who created and administered WB270.
pat777 your comment made my day, thank you so much :D
Bill Wick (https://saradas.org/index.php?action=profile;u=99629) and wb270 (https://saradas.org/index.php?action=profile;u=100233) are always online on Saradas, Bill Wick (https://saradas.org/index.php?action=profile;u=99629) was last active on July 29, 2023 , wb270 (https://saradas.org/index.php?action=profile;u=100233) was last active July 20, 2023. I'm sure your comment will make their day too.
How can you tell? I can't see there profiles.
Because you're New member. You are not allowed to access profiles.
I've been a member since 2015. I just don't post much.
I wonder how many posts to see profiles.
Have you ever seen this?
2342 Members Banned — and counting
https://saradas.org/index.php?topic=924459.0
My name isn't on the list.
Skooby, you've misunderstood the post. You don't have to be a member for a long time to be able to access other members' profiles. You're still considered a "newbie". When you were told about the list of banned members, it wasn't to tell you that you were on it, it was to warn you that you should post more often if you don't want to get banned.
Lastly, as was said above, read the thread to see which Bill started WB270. It was not Bill Wick. It was not Bill Clinton. It was not Bill Gates. Remember to post no Bill's.
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When it comes to misunderstanding posts, attributing the Bill mistake to Skooby belongs on the list. It was Postal Pat777.
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Sorry Skooby, I misread that post.
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Ah bummer. First and only session was scheduled from wb270. I’ll never forget it!
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That's sad. Big thanks to you wb270 owner, if you read this. You made many schmoes' dreams come true. :bravo:
But I hope you find a worthy and stable successor, SG shouldn't have monopoly on this very niche hobby.
Blue and red, Pepsi and Coke, SG and....?
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That's sad. Big thanks to you wb270 owner, if you read this. You made many schmoes' dreams come true. :bravo:
But I hope you find a worthy and stable successor, SG shouldn't have monopoly on this very niche hobby.
Blue and red, Pepsi and Coke, SG and....?
I'd like to second your thanks for the wb270 maestro. WB270 ushered me out of the Dark Ages of the Classified section of Robert Kennedy's MuscleMag . . . finding the WB270 was akin to locating the Schmoes' Holy Grail.
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Congrats to whoever is building that new session wrestlers site wb270******.com, looks good so far.
Let's hope it stays on topic: Athletic Women - No scammers, no trans, no "sessiongirls males", no three eyed octopuses there are zoos for that ... a minimum level of athleticism and good taste just like wb270 from before the 2010's.
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Congrats to whoever is building that new session wrestlers site wb270******.com, looks good so far.
Let's hope it stays on topic: Athletic Women - No scammers, no trans, no "sessiongirls males", no three eyed octopuses there are zoos for that ... a minimum level of athleticism and good taste just like wb270 from before the 2010's.
Do you have contact information for the three eyed octopus? Does she do extras? HJ, cephalopeg, octohugs, etc?
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😂 Yes ! they/them provide that, and their scissor is squishy but you get to chose the tentacles.
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Came across these old wb270 travel schedules which I found really interesting, some women who were real blasts from the past.
Really interesting to recall that most of these women advertised their hotels for you to call, whereas now you need to normally have paid a deposit before you are given any hotel information and it is a massive no-no to call the hotel. I still recall my first session 18 years ago nervously calling Trudy Ireland’s hotel and being put through…
https://groups.google.com/g/3b.test/c/eELOZuVDMoo
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.amazon-women/c/jNAyQ3FdLSs
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Talk about a blast from the past! 😁
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Del4, that was a terrific post! Brought back some very fond memories . . . well done! Your webcrawler skills are A-1!!
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Robin Parker and Amelia Hernandez 🥰😊
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Came across these old wb270 travel schedules which I found really interesting, some women who were real blasts from the past.
Really interesting to recall that most of these women advertised their hotels for you to call, whereas now you need to normally have paid a deposit before you are given any hotel information and it is a massive no-no to call the hotel. I still recall my first session 18 years ago nervously calling Trudy Ireland’s hotel and being put through…
https://groups.google.com/g/3b.test/c/eELOZuVDMoo
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.amazon-women/c/jNAyQ3FdLSs
KARMA! Great post! It is before my time, which is rare. I came into doing sessions around 2002 or so. I do remember calling hotels, although they were not listed for the public on wb270.com.
It's been a few years since my last session with an fbb I miss wb270.com for the ease of use of seeing, at a glance, who'd be in my town. Sessiongirls.com is a lot more advanced but, not as immediate with info. Just my opinion.
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Gone after many, many years.
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You do know there is a new site right?
https://wb270******.com/
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You do know there is a new site right?
https://wb270******.com/
That went well. The missing word is wrestlers for those playing at home and they didn't even ask the original wb270's permission to steal his reputation. It currently has pages full of duplicated profiles.
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Amazing been going for how many years? Hardly changed but was to go to for sessions until recent times
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I was so used to wb270.com, if for no other reason to see who might be traveling to my town, who is new and who might be returning to the session scene. At least I could visit quickly.
Sessiongirls.com is a modern site but... boring. It takes a while to navigate. Maybe it's just me.
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Came across these old wb270 travel schedules which I found really interesting, some women who were real blasts from the past.
Really interesting to recall that most of these women advertised their hotels for you to call, whereas now you need to normally have paid a deposit before you are given any hotel information and it is a massive no-no to call the hotel. I still recall my first session 18 years ago nervously calling Trudy Ireland’s hotel and being put through…
https://groups.google.com/g/3b.test/c/eELOZuVDMoo
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.amazon-women/c/jNAyQ3FdLSs
Wow, easy to forget there was some top female bodybuilders doing sessions, some would have loved to met in the U.K.
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You do know there is a new site right?
https://wb270******.com/
That went well. The missing word is wrestlers for those playing at home and they didn't even ask the original wb270's permission to steal his reputation. It currently has pages full of duplicated profiles.
Has a lot of profiles from women who haven't been on the scene in years too.
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You do know there is a new site right?
https://wb270******.com/
That went well. The missing word is wrestlers for those playing at home and they didn't even ask the original wb270's permission to steal his reputation. It currently has pages full of duplicated profiles.
Has a lot of profiles from women who haven't been on the scene in years too.
Please see Bill's warning below:
https://saradas.org/index.php?topic=994337.msg3047352#msg3047352
There is now a website using the domain name wb270******.com, that apparently lists session wrestlers and their travel schedules. I want to make it very clear that I, who built the original real wb270 website, and maintained it for more than 2 decades, have nothing to do with this site, which is trying to sort of rip off the wb270 name. I'd guess that whoever did it saw an opening to rip off the wb270 name, and it is deceptive at least to that extent.
They sent out a letter to session wrestlers that began:
"Firstly we wanted to thank you all for your support in this set up stage. It’s been wonderful talking with some of you, getting your profiles live and just keeping the energy of wb alive while bringing in new ideas and just getting things off the ground," and have apparently scraped pictures and emails of a large number of session wrestlers.
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Please see Bill's warning below:
It's not so much a warning as it is him just saying that he has nothing to do with the new site. He's probably a little bit peeved that somebody is more or less using his old site's name, but it's not like there's really anything he can legally do about it, and it's probably not worth his time. The new site appeared to start as someone literally just cutting/pasting the profiles from the old WB270 site. Whoever did it also included a few profiles of women who haven't been active in several years. They also have several profiles that get repeated throughout the 21 pages they have right now, which is pretty annoying.
But lately, many women who are active have begun to update their profiles and travel plans on the new site, so in that sense there's really nothing fraudulent going on. It's being used the same way the original site was.
Whoever runs it needs to clean things up, obviously. Get rid of the inactive and repeated profiles. Otherwise, it's a legitimate site that works. I understand why Bill would be upset at someone copying/ripping off his idea, but ultimately it's a big "who cares".
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No, unless you were aiming to trade off the name you'd not see a need to include wb270 in it. Until the OG made it clear, the impression given was he was fine with it. Regardless of what he could or would do, it's a very poor, half-assed R.i.p.o.f.f
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No, unless you were aiming to trade off the name you'd not see a need to include wb270 in it. Until the OG made it clear, the impression given was he was fine with it. Regardless of what he could or would do, it's a very poor, half-assed R.i.p.o.f.f
Oh, it's definitely a rip off and taking a shortcut by including the original name. The OG creator repeatedly refusing past offers from others to take over his site (some from women in the industry) was indication enough that he wasn't going to approve of this copy cat site.
And as mentioned, the site is shoddy and should really be cleaned up. But ultimately, there's really nothing anyone's going to do about someone putting up a copy cat site in poor taste. It's not worth anyone's time to put up a cease and desist.
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Raspect to wb270. The producer is a legend!
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The site, that enabled all my sessions is gone!
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WB270 has a lot to answer for………….
I met my wife on there 15 years ago and we are still married. I would probably have got less for murder (joking 😉).
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WB270 has a lot to answer for………….
I met my wife on there 15 years ago and we are still married. I would probably have got less for murder (joking 😉).
richmann's dream came true. Any other similar guys?
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I agree with many other contributors here......... "sessingirls.cpm" can`t keep up with "wB270" at all...!
SG is quite confusing, lay out not very appealing ,overview is lacking .......
I am missing "wb270" ,too (by which I made up nealy all of my sessions so far..)......but what can you do...?!
-no other session platform than "SG"any more so far,or am I wrong....!?
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there is a new platform of sessionists: badkity.com
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Came across these old wb270 travel schedules which I found really interesting, some women who were real blasts from the past.
Really interesting to recall that most of these women advertised their hotels for you to call, whereas now you need to normally have paid a deposit before you are given any hotel information and it is a massive no-no to call the hotel. I still recall my first session 18 years ago nervously calling Trudy Ireland’s hotel and being put through…
https://groups.google.com/g/3b.test/c/eELOZuVDMoo
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.amazon-women/c/jNAyQ3FdLSs
Damn, most of the women listed on these screenshots are long retired. I recognize Malibu, she’s still doing sessions.
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They have a rebranded wb270 site called wb270******.com. It has a lot of the old wrestlers, a lot of which that have probably retired.
No!
That website has nothing to do with WB270. They ripped off the website & name,without WB270's permission. All just to get some false credibility.
Just scroll up a bit on the page here and you'll see this:
Please see Bill's warning below:
https://saradas.org/index.php?topic=994337.msg3047352#msg3047352
There is now a website using the domain name wb270******.com, that apparently lists session wrestlers and their travel schedules. I want to make it very clear that I, who built the original real wb270 website, and maintained it for more than 2 decades, have nothing to do with this site, which is trying to sort of rip off the wb270 name. I'd guess that whoever did it saw an opening to rip off the wb270 name, and it is deceptive at least to that extent.
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The old wb270 site was easiest to use- the wb270****** site I find less easy to use- sessiongirls ease of use is ok - it could be better but for now seems like the best option
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is it possible to know the names of all the session sites that exist at the moment? thank you
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The old wb270 site was easiest to use- the wb270****** site I find less easy to use- sessiongirls ease of use is ok - it could be better but for now seems like the best option
I agree. The old WB (though a very primitive website) was an easy navigational site.
However, I do give credit to who ever created the new WB site, it just needs to be
updated accordingly and more talent added.
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is it possible to know the names of all the session sites that exist at the moment? thank you
https://sessiongirls.com/
https://badkity.com/
https://anatslist.com/
Only 3 I know of
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thx
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Dr Alan Solomon the owner of Diana Valkyrie Website has passed away, aged 75, after a long battle with liver cancer.
https://saradas.org/index.php?topic=1043743.0
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Thanks for posting. The legends who built this subculture and industry are leaving us too fast. RIP!