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Webcam Chat Sessions => Female Bodybuilding - Athletic Women - Muscular Girls => Topic started by: kostas on December 01, 2016, 08:22:32 pm
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hey as you all may notice, the herbicepscam site is updated, and it is improved. What do you think about it, and especially for the prices;;; I think the prices are a bit more up than they were in the past, so that means some less private chats than before.
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I can't find " My Favorites"
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What has happened to Herbicepscam? It seems to have changed ?
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It seems the standard minute rate is now 5 dollars, while it was 3.99 in the past. 25% increase...hmm....
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It seems the standard minute rate is now 5 dollars, while it was 3.99 in the past. 25% increase...hmm....
yup anytime a system converts from $ to credits it is worse for us as the buyer, always having to calculate how much money we are actually spending. much would have preferred staying on dollar system
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The point is to get you addicted, spending more money than you thought you were. I won't be joining the new site.
Looks like about $4.50/min for premium, $7.50-8.50/min for one-on-one, lol (probably more for the more expensive girls, can't see their prices if they're offline). If what I heard was true about girls not being able to sit in empty premium/fantasy like before, I suspect many girls will get frustrated enough with the free banter to quit.
Of course they don't really care about their customers, they just care about money. Not too long ago you got a 15% bonus for spending $100 ($15). They said "oh hey guyz more bonus" get $30 on $250. I guess they expected people to be too stupid to notice that's only 12%, and their bonus on $100 was reduced to 10%. Plus they took years and years to update the platform.
Still, it's not the most expensive site out there. I recently came across a site called flirt4free (stupidest name ever). Normal webcam girls there, only a few girls there with even a hint of muscle. But some of those girls were charging 120 credits/min ($12). I'm sure those girls probably only make 10-20% of what customers spend, but that was still insanely expensive.
Webcam just isn't a good deal. An hour of premium is the low end of a session cost. An hour of one-on-one is more than an hour-long session for most providers, even when you include gas/parking/tolls/paypal fees.
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The point is to get you addicted, spending more money than you thought you were. I won't be joining the new site.
Looks like about $4.50/min for premium, $7.50-8.50/min for one-on-one, lol (probably more for the more expensive girls, can't see their prices if they're offline). If what I heard was true about girls not being able to sit in empty premium/fantasy like before, I suspect many girls will get frustrated enough with the free banter to quit.
Of course they don't really care about their customers, they just care about money. Not too long ago you got a 15% bonus for spending $100 ($15). They said "oh hey guyz more bonus" get $30 on $250. I guess they expected people to be too stupid to notice that's only 12%, and their bonus on $100 was reduced to 10%. Plus they took years and years to update the platform.
Still, it's not the most expensive site out there. I recently came across a site called flirt4free (stupidest name ever). Normal webcam girls there, only a few girls there with even a hint of muscle. But some of those girls were charging 120 credits/min ($12). I'm sure those girls probably only make 10-20% of what customers spend, but that was still insanely expensive.
Webcam just isn't a good deal. An hour of premium is the low end of a session cost. An hour of one-on-one is more than an hour-long session for most providers, even when you include gas/parking/tolls/paypal fees.
yup very true, and as you alluded to many of these changes are probably not good for the girls either. I doubt they want all the email requests and such they will get through the messaging system offline and if they can't sit in prem chats they will be annoyed also
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yeah, and maintaining a "fan club" page probably won't excite them. I don't know what's on it, but if it's like fan club pages on other cam sites, where they have to fill out questionnaires detailing their personality and kinks, upload extra fan club photos (which will undoubtedly get leaked here), have recorded performances available to view (and on those sites, I don't think the girls make any money for people watching recorded shows), and occasionally link them to even more intimate access via snapchat IDs or whatever, I can't imagine that being a good deal for the girls. one thing about the old site was a girl could just jump on once or twice a month, make some extra cash, and not get too involved with the dudes.
I remember one girl every time I went in premium with her would say something like "thank god, thought I was going to need a xanax." Not exactly the best way to start a private chat to start complaining about all the annoying guys in free chat. Then again, I've never been bombarded by 20-50 guys approaching me at once asking me for my weight, bicep size, telling me they're selling photos of me, etc.
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yeah, and maintaining a "fan club" page probably won't excite them. I don't know what's on it, but if it's like fan club pages on other cam sites, where they have to fill out questionnaires detailing their personality and kinks, upload extra fan club photos (which will undoubtedly get leaked here), have recorded performances available to view (and on those sites, I don't think the girls make any money for people watching recorded shows), and occasionally link them to even more intimate access via snapchat IDs or whatever, I can't imagine that being a good deal for the girls. one thing about the old site was a girl could just jump on once or twice a month, make some extra cash, and not get too involved with the dudes.
I remember one girl every time I went in premium with her would say something like "thank god, thought I was going to need a xanax." Not exactly the best way to start a private chat to start complaining about all the annoying guys in free chat. Then again, I've never been bombarded by 20-50 guys approaching me at once asking me for my weight, bicep size, telling me they're selling photos of me, etc.
agreed clearly whoever in charge has no idea about normal implementation for upgrades and changes in software and similar products. The site was great because it was simple and to the point, connect viewers with girls to flex and pose for money on camera. we get our fan site and all the other stuff from others sites.
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I mean I'm not saying the old site was good. it was shit from a technology standpoint. but increasing the prices risks losing the customer (like me) and some of the new features risk losing the girls. I guess they'll see. I'm sure they'll still have their fair share of suckers who will dish out the cash on any platform.
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I mean I'm not saying the old site was good. it was shit from a technology standpoint. but increasing the prices risks losing the customer (like me) and some of the new features risk losing the girls. I guess they'll see. I'm sure they'll still have their fair share of suckers who will dish out the cash on any platform.
the biggest problem with the last site was the technology, the correct implementation would have been to updated the interface and back end then gradually add features if needed and wanted by customers.
oh well
as long as they get the tech running well site will do ok as u say as people are gonna be needing to spend on these ladies somehow
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According to herbiceps, there are no more PMs in free chat (even though the girl can choose whom to PM), max premium will be $4 tomorrow (I guess unless they see enough spending today that they don't care to change it), and "they also can now do one on one starting at 3-4 dollars instead of minimum 6 so price freedom went both ways" lol. Like a girl is actually gonna choose to do one-on-one for $3.
I guess some of the issues will get fixed. They'll still have some problems to deal with though.
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I am not a big fan of new site myself:
1. Harsh price up - if it is not back to what was before the change I am done. I give 0 fucks about happy hours etc (which is interesting btw. - happy hour can be set once per week - why?)
2. No PM in free chat - dont care how annoying it was for the ladies - she should be Pming people with money... Now no easy way to set up requests
I woulda just upgrade to HD and leave how it was before... Addtionally I fully agree with the sessions vs cams argument. If only I was living in UK, USA or so...
Down with new HBC :)
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As you all know Herbicepcam.com has upgraded earlier this week. The problem is they haven't fully worked out the kinks in the new site. The site was only down for a day. When you overhauling a website at least give it a week or more to get all if any problems work out. And now they want to charge you to be a VIP member. As long as I was spending over $200 bucks I was a VIP member. The site was ok before, just a few problems. I probably won't be going to it for awhile till it straighten itself out. :angry: :hellno: :look:
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On the plus side, now that the site is a disaster and they're going to be losing money, they're actually going to have incentive to do something about it.
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On the plus side, now that the site is a disaster and they're going to be losing money, they're actually going to have incentive to do something about it.
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Wow, lots of changes and a lot of confusion. So what does vip status mean now? What does it get you that buying minutes or credits doesn't?
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I think it gets you some free emails and PMing abilities, basically just a little extra attention as on the old site.
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I logged in to the new HBC and found out that the hundreds of dollars I have poured into their video rentals over the past several years have disappeared. My money has been converted into "credits" and I have no purchase history or VIP status with them. Needless to say, I am furious. There was no announcement on this site that they would be doing this, and I have been more than loyal. I am going to boycott this site and go out of my way to encourage others to do so. It's very bad customer service and a terrible customer experience. Also, the new site looks like shit and has awful functionality. They certainly didn't do any UX research on it.
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I am outraged. Over 150 purchased videos have disappeared, the money I had has been converted into "credits," I'm not a VIP despite having spend thousands on the site over the years. It's also butt-ugly, has crappy functionality that resembles clever flash interfaces of the early 2000s but nothing of what users expect nowadays, is too expensive and also looks like a security nightmare. I am not going to darken their doorsteps any longer, nor will I report when I see their hijacked clips on *****. They can F off. I feel cheated.
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If you take a close look, it looks like their developers tried to copy the flirt4free interface exactly (which is probably the most expensive webcam site I've ever seen -- prices as high as $12/minute). Of course lots of bugs too. Based on a couple model reviews I saw (the format of the date), I'm guessing they got cheap developers from some other country.
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Converting into credits is not really a problem, other than the extent to which it makes you mentally unaware of how much money you're spending (which is why most cam sites have done this now). The one good thing about this is finer granularity: you can spend 5 credits even if it's not a full 15 seconds. I have no purchase history with them either. My account (which was VIP before) has gone back and forth between VIP and not VIP the past couple days, but for all practical purposes, my account enjoys none of the VIP features (free emails, PMs). The HD video (or at least larger resolution even if not HD) *is* an improvement, but half the time the girl can't even broadcast any video (says "Model is entering room" or something while you get to have a text chat with her -- kind of sucks for the girls who just sit in free not able to make anything, though I don't feel bad for those who are scammers like StrongMichelle).
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The kicker also when you go to private you can't even chat. The screen will post you need to be a VIP to chat with the girls while in private. If I'm paying by the time it shouldn't matte if I'm a vip.
:hellno:
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I don't use HBC half as much as I used to, there are still some decent ladies there albeit a slow decline in trusted performers who give a good show.
Not liking the new "upgraded" version at all.
Having spend $1000's over a decade on the site, I should automatically be VIP.
Why should someone who can come in and spend $$$ and then leave be a VIP and I cannot?
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There is still MGL. Maybe if the women don't like the changes on HBC they will go over there. They can still sit in pay chat all they want over there. (or not)
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Hi, everyone, and thanks to those of you who've checked out the new platform and given us specific feedback in addition to your patience and support over the past decade.
hey as you all may notice, the herbicepscam site is updated, and it is improved. What do you think about it, and especially for the prices;;; I think the prices are a bit more up than they were in the past, so that means some less private chats than before.
Because of the asymmetry of the databases, the migration from old to new was not perfect. A few things went wrong and, while we wanted to give the models more flexibility with pricing - both higher and lower - we did not anticipate that the system would default to the highest options for so many of the models, nor did we anticipate that so many other models would opt for higher pricing right away. To be clear, not every model increased her prices manually. The system did this to some of their accounts without their knowledge. Some did raise theirs when they saw it was possible, some did not. This particular problem became a problem, because we changed the parameters and did not offer any instructional guidance when the changeover was announced. We sincerely apologize for how this made so many of you feel. This was an error on our part, but we listened to our customers and responded right away.
I can't find " My Favorites"
Everyone starts with a clean slate on Favorites. :)
It seems the standard minute rate is now 5 dollars, while it was 3.99 in the past. 25% increase...hmm....
See above. We made a mistake, the system made a mistake, and then some of the models made a mistake. We remedied this almost immediately and when I looked just now, of the 12 women logged on, none of them had a price above $3.90/minute (39 credits) and a few were as low as $3.00/minute (30 credits).
The point is to get you addicted, spending more money than you thought you were. I won't be joining the new site.
If what I heard was true about girls not being able to sit in empty premium/fantasy like before, I suspect many girls will get frustrated enough with the free banter to quit.
Of course they don't really care about their customers, they just care about money. Not too long ago you got a 15% bonus for spending $100 ($15). They said "oh hey guyz more bonus" get $30 on $250. I guess they expected people to be too stupid to notice that's only 12%, and their bonus on $100 was reduced to 10%. Plus they took years and years to update the platform.
Users are asked for 2nd-click confirmation on all purchases. We want everyone to enjoy the site, but do not want anyone spending more than they intend. If we did not care about customers, we would not do deposit bonuses, nor would we have insisted that models spend more time in free. I get that people are upset with some of the changes, but we're working to find the right balance that provides the greatest enjoyment to the widest cross-section.
yup very true, and as you alluded to many of these changes are probably not good for the girls either. I doubt they want all the email requests and such they will get through the messaging system offline and if they can't sit in prem chats they will be annoyed also
There have been a couple of glitches, but those who are choosing to use the HBCmail system have enjoyed it, so far. Its use is completely voluntary.
yeah, and maintaining a "fan club" page probably won't excite them. I don't know what's on it, but if it's like fan club pages on other cam sites, where they have to fill out questionnaires detailing their personality and kinks, upload extra fan club photos (which will undoubtedly get leaked here), have recorded performances available to view (and on those sites, I don't think the girls make any money for people watching recorded shows), and occasionally link them to even more intimate access via snapchat IDs or whatever, I can't imagine that being a good deal for the girls. one thing about the old site was a girl could just jump on once or twice a month, make some extra cash, and not get too involved with the dudes.
Every model has the option to use or not use it. The same goes for the users. We have no given anyone any expectations on the "Favorites" front. It's simply a way for users to demonstrate a little interest in the women they like and for models - if they so choose - to communicate information to their fans.
agreed clearly whoever in charge has no idea about normal implementation for upgrades and changes in software and similar products. The site was great because it was simple and to the point, connect viewers with girls to flex and pose for money on camera. we get our fan site and all the other stuff from others sites.
We got a bunch of things wrong, but also got some things right. The previously non-HD streams were the #1 complaint of all-time, so that had to be top priority in building the new platform, but we were not content to stop there. Yes, simplicity is great, but newer customers tend to want a different experience than customers did in 2006. So, we sought to give everyone more, while maintaining the basic functionality for those who merely wanted what they'd always enjoyed (with a few, notable exceptions, of course).
the biggest problem with the last site was the technology, the correct implementation would have been to updated the interface and back end then gradually add features if needed and wanted by customers.
oh well
as long as they get the tech running well site will do ok as u say as people are gonna be needing to spend on these ladies somehow
Although what you're saying about upgrading the previous interface is certainly intuitive and makes sense, it just wasn't that simple. Some of you have some knowledge about a little of what we've been through over the past 3-4 years, and I won't go into too much detail now about all that, but to make a long story short, we eventually had to make a wholesale change.
I am not a big fan of new site myself:
1. Harsh price up - if it is not back to what was before the change I am done. I give 0 fucks about happy hours etc (which is interesting btw. - happy hour can be set once per week - why?)
2. No PM in free chat - dont care how annoying it was for the ladies - she should be Pming people with money... Now no easy way to set up requests
I woulda just upgrade to HD and leave how it was before... Addtionally I fully agree with the sessions vs cams argument. If only I was living in UK, USA or so...Down with new HBC :)
Prices have returned to normal. Models are liking "Happy Hour" and a couple have asked for more than 1 hour/week. Regarding PMs, they're coming back to the Free Room for our VIPs (model still has option to use or not use).
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Having to pay to message performers which usually involves setting up a meet time for them to MAKE MONEY is ridiculous. I'm being charged to have the opportunity to be charged. It's like having to pay to contact a company's sales department, do you want the sale or not? Of course some members may just bs on the messaging feature, but it won't take girls long to realize who those people are and ignore them.
As for reviews, I wonder if honest reviews addressing the scammers will be allowed to stay or will they remove them. Only problem is I have to pay said scammers again in order to warn the community.
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Having to pay to message performers which usually involves setting up a meet time for them to MAKE MONEY is ridiculous. I'm being charged to have the opportunity to be charged. It's like having to pay to contact a company's sales department, do you want the sale or not? Of course some members may just bs on the messaging feature, but it won't take girls long to realize who those people are and ignore them.
As for reviews, I wonder if honest reviews addressing the scammers will be allowed to stay or will they remove them. Only problem is I have to pay said scammers again in order to warn the community.
I agree. Just take the old appointment setting feature and make it actually work. You can make pay emails a feature for those who want actual conversation over email. A couple weeks ago I took my car to a mechanic. He checked it out and the next day I brought it back to get the work done. I didn't pay any money on the first day. Of course they're also trying to actually enforce their rules of not letting models give out personal emails so they can't do skype shows (which is perfectly reasonable). Naturally, it makes setting up sessions (for those on the DL) a little more annoying (unless you believe it's a good idea to store hotel info/phone numbers/meeting times in hbc's databases).
"If we did not care about customers, we would not do deposit bonuses"
So why was the deposit bonus on $100 reduced from 15% to 12%? The only answer is that you wanted to increase profits. And why is VIP status not carried over from the old site to the new? And when you realized every single feature on the website was buggy, and prices were too high, why didn't you take the site down temporarily to fix everything instead of allowing the models to exploit the customers? Or instead of allowing the models to waste hours of their valuable time on a broken website? The only answer is that you wanted to make some money off a broken product before fixing it.
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Sorry, from 15% to 10%.
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What a complete mess of a site update.
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"We got a bunch of things wrong, but also got some things right." In other words, a boondoggle.
The participation trophy is in the mail!
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Guys to be fair, the prices are now been fixed. The prices are now as they were in the old site, i see the prices in a premium are from 30 credits to 39 the maximum. We must refer that and say a bravo , because they heard our ''compaints'' and they fixed the issue. :bravo:
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As you all know Herbicepcam.com has upgraded earlier this week. The problem is they haven't fully worked out the kinks in the new site. The site was only down for a day. When you overhauling a website at least give it a week or more to get all if any problems work out. And now they want to charge you to be a VIP member. As long as I was spending over $200 bucks I was a VIP member.
You should expect to have your VIP status transferred over pretty soon. Once they're all done, there will be a system announcement. If you notice that your status has not been restored, just let us know and we'll address the issue directly.
Wow, lots of changes and a lot of confusion. So what does vip status mean now? What does it get you that buying minutes or credits doesn't?
Previously, members earned VIP status based on their spending, but other than recognition from the models, they did not receive any extras. On the new platform, VIPs get 15 free HBCmails per month and any after that are half-price. They can also change their chat color, use emojis, and have their names listed at the top of the model's chatroom. Within the coming weeks, VIPs will also be able to receive PMs in free chat.
I logged in to the new HBC and found out that the hundreds of dollars I have poured into their video rentals over the past several years have disappeared. My money has been converted into "credits" and I have no purchase history or VIP status with them. Needless to say, I am furious. There was no announcement on this site that they would be doing this, and I have been more than loyal. I am going to boycott this site and go out of my way to encourage others to do so. It's very bad customer service and a terrible customer experience. Also, the new site looks like shit and has awful functionality. They certainly didn't do any UX research on it.
I am sorry that you've had this experience. Please email us at help@herbicepscam.com and we'll work to get your situation sorted as quickly as possible. It's going to take a little time to get all the videos placed where they need to be, but your credits and VIP status can be restored upon receipt of an email from you. You'll probably receive some additional credits as well for the inconvenience.
Not liking the new "upgraded" version at all.
Having spend $1000's over a decade on the site, I should automatically be VIP.
Why should someone who can come in and spend $$$ and then leave be a VIP and I cannot?
Please send a brief email to help@herbicepscam.com and we should be able to get this rectified pretty quickly.
Having to pay to message performers which usually involves setting up a meet time for them to MAKE MONEY is ridiculous. I'm being charged to have the opportunity to be charged. It's like having to pay to contact a company's sales department, do you want the sale or not? Of course some members may just bs on the messaging feature, but it won't take girls long to realize who those people are and ignore them.
As for reviews, I wonder if honest reviews addressing the scammers will be allowed to stay or will they remove them. Only problem is I have to pay said scammers again in order to warn the community.
It costs nothing for users to receive messages from models. We cannot speak on specific contractor concerns, but we have suspended several models this year (probably more than in 2014-2015 combined) for being bad citizens. Again, though, we aren't able to diagnose and treat what we do not know about. I understand wanting to punish the bad actors and I understand being frustrated with our service, but if you think you've been scammed, please let us know. I'm not promising that we'll achieve the exact resolution you may be seeking, but we cannot do anything without being given details on a situation.
And why is VIP status not carried over from the old site to the new? And when you realized every single feature on the website was buggy, and prices were too high, why didn't you take the site down temporarily to fix everything instead of allowing the models to exploit the customers?
We did not anticipate that many VIPs would suddenly not be VIPs anymore when the changeover was made. But as soon as we recognized that users' VIP status was not transferred properly, we went into action, and expect to have this resolved this week. Be on the lookout for a system news update within the next few days. Again, with respect to pricing, we saw what was going on with the prices and also listened to our customers. The correction was made almost immediately. There have been a few deliberate site shutdowns for repairs and upgrades since the new platform went live. Users and models should expect that there may be a few more as we continue ironing out the kinks.
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We appreciate that this fan board is here to share thoughts, information, and feedback. But while we fully encourage users to talk freely about your experiences, if you let us know directly what problems or concerns you've had, there's a greater likelihood that something may be done about it. You can email us at help@herbicepscam.com or you can drop into our "Help_Desk" or "Customer_Service" chatroom and speak directly with Mike, Jen, or myself. We definitely want to hear from users, past users, and even prospective users on forums and social media, but any specific customer service matters are better addressed to us directly.
Thanks so much for the time you all have taken to express your thoughts. You don't owe us anything, but we do truly appreciate you giving us ideas on what we can do to improve the service and thus have a greater chance to earn your business. Cheers!
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It costs nothing for users to receive messages from models. We cannot speak on specific contractor concerns, but we have suspended several models this year (probably more than in 2014-2015 combined) for being bad citizens. Again, though, we aren't able to diagnose and treat what we do not know about. I understand wanting to punish the bad actors and I understand being frustrated with our service, but if you think you've been scammed, please let us know. I'm not promising that we'll achieve the exact resolution you may be seeking, but we cannot do anything without being given details on a situation.
Yes, but of course you're aware that doesn't properly address my argument in regards to messaging. I'm not trying to pile on with negativity here, I respect what you guys are trying to do and understand your desire to keep messaging in-house. It helps the business and in some ways can help the customers as well. Which I think is what we all want, a win-win situation for everyone involved. That being said, I don't think the current setup truly benefits all parties. Having to pay and still be limited to 10 messages, there's not much you can do with that. Or, just receiving messages isn't actually communicating. So I guess I have to ask what the main intent of the system is. If it's simply a models way to periodically reach out then it can serve its purpose fine as-is. If it's supposed to be an effective tool for scheduling and periodic chat for members who have earned that right, then I think something needs to change. At the very least lift the limit, as I think it can help the models secure more business which again is great for everyone. Bearing in mind we're not allowed to converse via e-mail anymore.
As far as reviews go, I'm not going to beat a dead horse. Plus there's another thread on that. I've pretty much accepted the fact that high earners get more leeway.
Anyway, to end on a positive note the new system is great overall, it's just that one aspect that I'm not big on.
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I have over 1900 credits. Sometimes when i log in i am shown to have vip status and sometimes not. When i click on "what is vip" I get a message in another language. The site is so slow as to be unuseable on my phone.
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The live cam videos don't work on my phone
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Yes, but of course you're aware that doesn't properly address my argument in regards to messaging. I'm not trying to pile on with negativity here, I respect what you guys are trying to do and understand your desire to keep messaging in-house. It helps the business and in some ways can help the customers as well. Which I think is what we all want, a win-win situation for everyone involved. That being said, I don't think the current setup truly benefits all parties. Having to pay and still be limited to 10 messages, there's not much you can do with that. Or, just receiving messages isn't actually communicating. So I guess I have to ask what the main intent of the system is. If it's simply a models way to periodically reach out then it can serve its purpose fine as-is. If it's supposed to be an effective tool for scheduling and periodic chat for members who have earned that right, then I think something needs to change. At the very least lift the limit, as I think it can help the models secure more business which again is great for everyone. Bearing in mind we're not allowed to converse via e-mail anymore.
As far as reviews go, I'm not going to beat a dead horse. Plus there's another thread on that. I've pretty much accepted the fact that high earners get more leeway.
Anyway, to end on a positive note the new system is great overall, it's just that one aspect that I'm not big on.
Thanks so much for that feedback. You make an excellent point, so we have talked about it and are currently looking at possibly increasing the monthly free limit for VIPs. The people who are using it have said they like it a lot, so that being the case, it gives your point even more credence.
I have over 1900 credits. Sometimes when i log in i am shown to have vip status and sometimes not. When i click on "what is vip" I get a message in another language. The site is so slow as to be unuseable on my phone.
Oops. We forgot to properly fill in that document. Thanks for letting us know.
The live cam videos don't work on my phone
Which phones are you both using? I have no problem using the site via my iPhone6 with the Photon, flash-enabled browser.
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Using a galaxy s3. Can not join chat, and super slow to even scroll list of girls who are online. It scrolls fine after i get past the online girls.
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Using a galaxy s3. Can not join chat, and super slow to even scroll list of girls who are online. It scrolls fine after i get past the online girls.
Dude, that thing is 5 years old! The processor probably can't handle it. that being said, I also have an old S3 and its still good to view stuff. but the pages have so much in them that I am not surprised a S3 is slow. Cheers
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I am dissapointed with it. apparently the ladies make 67 cents on the dollar (or close to that). all the cash HBC admin has made over the past 11 yrs he should get the ladies a break. Then the prices would be lower and not 10% increased. I dunno, I am turned off form the site nw. Good tech upgrade, bad monetary upgrade.
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I don't use HBC half as much as I used to, there are still some decent ladies there albeit a slow decline in trusted performers who give a good show.
Not liking the new "upgraded" version at all.
Having spend $1000's over a decade on the site, I should automatically be VIP.
Why should someone who can come in and spend $$$ and then leave be a VIP and I cannot?
Because it's a what have you done for me lately world.
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Using a galaxy s3. Can not join chat, and super slow to even scroll list of girls who are online. It scrolls fine after i get past the online girls.
Have you already installed a flash player? If not, maybe this clip will help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCSDMiwtNpk
I am dissapointed with it. apparently the ladies make 67 cents on the dollar (or close to that). all the cash HBC admin has made over the past 11 yrs he should get the ladies a break. Then the prices would be lower and not 10% increased. I dunno, I am turned off form the site nw. Good tech upgrade, bad monetary upgrade.
I don't like splitting hairs, but in the interest of accuracy, the current max price of Premium chat is $3.90/minute. On the old platform, the max price for Premium chat was $3.99/minute. Sure, it's "only 9 cents", but that's still a decrease, not an increase.
I do hope you'll come back and check out the site sometime. Change is always met with a variety of feelings, but we'd love the chance to earn your business again in the future. If there are other things you think we're getting wrong, we'd love to hear about it (help@herbicepscam.com).
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All things considered, they have been due for an update for some time and to be honest, the improved cams make up for a lot of the misgivings. as an infrequent purchaser, I'm still a little disheartened that my favorite hosts cannot pm me to woo me into chat (which they have managed to do may times) but it appears that they are working on various fixes of that nature. Just like many have said about our new POTUS elect- we have no choice but to give it time. If it doesn't work out, use your voice and your dollars to show your displeasure. They don't know if you don't tell them.
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Honestly VIPs should have unlimited messages. Realistically, the girls aren't going to use it to chat. Making a few cents off a message isn't worth the time to them. The only real use is as a private scheduling tool. As someone else said, if a VIP is going to be charged money to set an appointment, he's just not going to bother once he runs out of monthly messages. If someone is abusing it, sending hundreds of spammy messages, the girls can just block or report him.
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The site is getting better and i applaud them for trying hard to make it right. There does not seem to be a way to scroll down a list to see all the ladies who are registered with the site. I want to put my favorites list back together and it seems to be impossible. Can ladies post their schedules, if they can I can't find them. Do ladies need to re register, i have searched for several and their names do not come up
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to me the old site went fine...
had a chat recently one to one and the credits went down so fast, almost like a real time countdown..
huge turn off..
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I just saw the site after not really looking at it and this is the week that they make a big change. Never joined, never "cammed" before now. Still just taken a glance over the site and haven't jumped in so to say. Besides the way it looks I couldn't tell you the difference between before and now. Appreciate the feedback form everyone.
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The site is improving, they have restored saved favorites under the fan club banner. It would be nice if they would enable us to block ladies profiles. There are a number of ladies that i am not interested in speaking with. Ladies now are changing their profile pictures often and it is often times difficult to remember handles that you don't want to visit. It is probably equally frustrating for the ladies to have guys come in to their room and quickly leave when they realize who the lady is. It would be a win/win feature.
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I think there are still some glitches in the system, but overall it looks great.
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There is still MGL. Maybe if the women don't like the changes on HBC they will go over there. They can still sit in pay chat all they want over there. (or not)
Many of the girls don't like MGL, they don't get paid enough and always trying to make end of the month pay out.
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Hey again, i have notice that some of the girls that used to be in the previous site , are not in anymore, either they have left or they simply dont enter the site. I dont know about you , but personally i see the same girls on the site . Have you noticed that too or maybe you know some hours that ''special girls'' like julieta enter the site. I have never been informed when a model enters the site while i have joined they fan club. Thanks, and wait for your thoughs.
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Hey again, i have notice that some of the girls that used to be in the previous site , are not in anymore, either they have left or they simply dont enter the site. I dont know about you , but personally i see the same girls on the site . Have you noticed that too or maybe you know some hours that ''special girls'' like julieta enter the site. I have never been informed when a model enters the site while i have joined they fan club. Thanks, and wait for your thoughs.
The new site has had major glitches. Video won't show or audio won't work. It's frustrating and annoys a lot of the girls as well.
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yes i have noticed that too. But one thing i noticed before 2 days, is that girls like amazon maria and others seems to have enter the site if you click and read on the profile, while truly they havent done and havent even been in any chat. Thats very strange isht it;; I emailed herbicepscam this issue and i am expecting their answer. They are so many girls in this site that deserve some credits but dont appear online anymore. Yesterday i even saw ''RAPTURE'' has entered the chat, but her name washnt appear in free or anything else chat.
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I am expecting for e-mail advices when a model I have chosen with the "club" function is online. Now this service seems not available.
I've asked support to HBC but they have not yet answered. Do you receive notification when the model you prefer is on line?
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i have never, been informed when the model i have join itsclub , enters the site. In the email i sent them, i told them about this too. Especially i told to mike that he should added, [except from the date that we see on the profile of a model , to add hour too, so we can know actually what time she is online, as we never get informed by email or by 'joining their fan club'/, and he told that he will take this into account.
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Hi,
I asked directly to HBC helpdesk if they send a e-mail when a woman of your favourites (your 'club') enters online.
From HBC I've received that answer: they don't send e-mails anymore. Many people would receive tons of messages and HBC would be considered as a spammer.
So you have to check with your favourite girl when she takes part to the chat.
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so the only way to find out when the girl you want and have joined her club , is online, is to send her an email, if you are a vip member right; oK that may be good , but you need to have only some girls and not many cause vip members cant send as many emails as they want.
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My experience has been really good so far, though i've been on the site for a decade so i was an auto VIP.
All of the previously recorded videos for purchase are loaded, so if you're still looking for them look no further.
I do like that the girls can email out updates to the fan club so theres some sort of communication outside of the chat, and theyve been responsive to private messages and emails. Very good upgrade so far.
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Your time starts ticking before the system has even connected you to the model. I lost 31 credits while waiting on the site to establish a connection. This needs to be fixed.
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Your time starts ticking before the system has even connected you to the model. I lost 31 credits while waiting on the site to establish a connection. This needs to be fixed.
I'm definitely not happy to hear that you've had this experience. Please email us at help@herbicepscam.com so that we can get you properly credited for any that you've lost.
My experience has been really good so far, though i've been on the site for a decade so i was an auto VIP.
All of the previously recorded videos for purchase are loaded, so if you're still looking for them look no further.
I do like that the girls can email out updates to the fan club so theres some sort of communication outside of the chat, and theyve been responsive to private messages and emails. Very good upgrade so far.
Thanks for that feedback and for sticking with us for so long. We hope to bring fans even more to enjoy at HB later this year.
so the only way to find out when the girl you want and have joined her club , is online, is to send her an email, if you are a vip member right; oK that may be good , but you need to have only some girls and not many cause vip members cant send as many emails as they want.
Yes, the old "notify when online" system - while worthwhile and convenient for some users - proved to be a nightmare for most and on top of the user inboxes being flooded, our email was often labeled as spam, which is not something any online business wants. It worked best for models like Colette who were rarely on. If you were a fan, you did not want to miss your once-in-6-months chance to see her and because she was only on twice a year, the system message was not targeted as spam. The new system is better for this, because the models can send users as many messages as they want.
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It's only $3 I believe so a refund isn't necessary, but thank you. I just hope it's something that can be addressed in the future. Seems to only happen with girls who have a bad connection or when you're joining right when the model in transitioning either to one on one or offline.
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"Waiting in Premium"...
So, looks like the good ol "hiding in premium" is back on HBC. What's up with that? I thought we would be spared that this time around?
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I'm sure the models got bitter about it. For example, now that Kim Diesel had to go to free chat for a couple months, she was there in free decked out in hoodies (not showing her face either).
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didn't know how it was before, but it seems like a majority of the models don't for the free chat...
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IMO the smarter ones will hang out in free mode. Don't have to chat or flex but just hang out there. From what we see, we can decide if we wish to enter private mode.
If the person just hides in private mode, all we have is pictures and from past personal experience, 90% of the time the lady looks NOTHING remotely close to the pics they posted. In short, what a waste of time and money to go into private and discover the actual person looks 10 years older and 20 lbs heavier (and its mostly fat sad to say).
So there will be those willing to take the risk but for me, if I see someone hiding in private I would not bother wasting time or money regardless of how hot she looks in the pics, unless of course I have cammed with her recently and know she still has it.
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On another note, why do the pics of the online models keep moving about? Its like musical chairs. Not only is it super annoying but if you happen to be browsing in multiple windows and waiting to see if your favourite model comes online, each time the pics move it gives the false impression that someone new just came online.
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"Waiting in Premium"...
So, looks like the good ol "hiding in premium" is back on HBC. What's up with that? I thought we would be spared that this time around?
From our "New Site Info" page (link at top of your HBC page):
"In order to improve the user experience, we have modified the model status descriptions. Veteran Models who have earned it now have the option to go directly into their Premium or Fantasy rooms. *WAITING* means that the Model is alone in her Premium chat. If there is another customer already in her Premium/Fantasy room, you will see "JOIN PREMIUM" or "JOIN FANTASY". Models who have this option may use it at their own discretion."
I'm sure the models got bitter about it. For example, now that Kim Diesel had to go to free chat for a couple months, she was there in free decked out in hoodies (not showing her face either).
We want everyone who logs in to have a good experience.
didn't know how it was before, but it seems like a majority of the models don't for the free chat...
Some do, some don't. Most want the option to choose.
IMO the smarter ones will hang out in free mode. Don't have to chat or flex but just hang out there. From what we see, we can decide if we wish to enter private mode.
If the person just hides in private mode, all we have is pictures and from past personal experience, 90% of the time the lady looks NOTHING remotely close to the pics they posted. In short, what a waste of time and money to go into private and discover the actual person looks 10 years older and 20 lbs heavier (and its mostly fat sad to say).
So there will be those willing to take the risk but for me, if I see someone hiding in private I would not bother wasting time or money regardless of how hot she looks in the pics, unless of course I have cammed with her recently and know she still has it.
^Excellent counsel. Prior to the changeover, we never required anyone to use their Free chatrooms, but we always advised it. We had more than enough data to demonstrate that - historically - the women who engaged most with their visitors in Free consistently had the highest earnings.
BUT...if a Model wants to work, but feels she cannot deliver a quality show to her prospective paying customers after having engaged with visitors committed to remaining Forever Free, then that can have a potentially negative impact on her earnings. We love our non-paying visitors, too, because every visitor is a prospective customer, but there are some days when some of the Models don't have the time for them. In the interest of transparency, as stated previously, we originally thought this change was in the best interests of both Models and customers, but in retrospect, it was a mistake. And once we had that information, we moved quickly to make the correction.
So, as noted in the Site Info box, the Model-option room entry feature is once again available to eligible Models. I don't have the exact number, but there are still plenty of terrific performers who will be chatting in Free, eager for you to take them into private chats.
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Good lookin FemFlex. Sounds good...
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On another note, why do the pics of the online models keep moving about? Its like musical chairs. Not only is it super annoying but if you happen to be browsing in multiple windows and waiting to see if your favourite model comes online, each time the pics move it gives the false impression that someone new just came online.
I agree 100 percent. I am at the point where i will just leave rather than trying to chase the moving windows.
Why not at least let us see their current image when the girls are now waiting in premium? That way we can see their current image and attire.
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On another note, why do the pics of the online models keep moving about? Its like musical chairs. Not only is it super annoying but if you happen to be browsing in multiple windows and waiting to see if your favourite model comes online, each time the pics move it gives the false impression that someone new just came online.
I agree 100 percent. I am at the point where i will just leave rather than trying to chase the moving windows.
Why not at least let us see their current image when the girls are now waiting in premium? That way we can see their current image and attire.
Well then I guess that gives a sneak peak which some might consider unfair since you're not paying.
I recall there was a suggestion to remove the profiles of ladies who have not logged on for a certain duration. I second that. Also, I feel its important to have some sort of rules with regards to pics that ladies post. Maybe I'm just unlucky but I would say 90% of the ladies who are online when I am do not look anything like their photos. Some look 10 years older. Others look A LOT chubbier. Out of the remaining 10%, I'd say about 8% bear some sort of resemblance to their pics while only about 2% look just as good as their pics.
Its fine if we can see the webcam preview cos we can always decide not to proceed if we feel they look nothing like their pics. But for those hiding in premium, that's when it gets tricky. You can't see the preview and you can't trust the pics.
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I don't know what you're talking about with girls who are fatter than their profile pics. I haven't seen any of that. Can you give examples?
As for deleting their profiles, there's just no way. If someone like charliejay or haylie M had their life fall apart and logged on for a night after years of not being on, they would easily bring the site $500 in one night. There's 0% chance they're going to spend time removing someone from a database when there's a chance (even a tiny chance) of making money in the future by doing nothing.
It is kind of funny to hear "we care about the customers, that's why models can't hide in premium anymore" only to fall back on that after 2 months.
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It is kind of funny to hear "we care about the customers, that's why models can't hide in premium anymore" only to fall back on that after 2 months.
It's midnite here on the west coast (USA) and there are currently 12 women logged into the system.
1 is in 1-on-1 chat
2 are waiting in Premium
9 are in Free
Since the beginning of the rollout, we have listened to feedback from customers and models and made changes accordingly. Not all models have or will use the optional room selection feature, so there will almost always be Free rooms for users to check out. Veteran models have more than earned that degree of latitude and allowing them to operate as they did previously is the right thing to do, so we corrected our mistake.
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It is kind of funny to hear "we care about the customers, that's why models can't hide in premium anymore" only to fall back on that after 2 months.
It's midnite here on the west coast (USA) and there are currently 12 women logged into the system.
1 is in 1-on-1 chat
2 are waiting in Premium
9 are in Free
Since the beginning of the rollout, we have listened to feedback from customers and models and made changes accordingly. Not all models have or will use the optional room selection feature, so there will almost always be Free rooms for users to check out. Veteran models have more than earned that degree of latitude and allowing them to operate as they did previously is the right thing to do, so we corrected our mistake.
I believe that the best thing you can do, is put limits. For example for the models that can hide in premium/fantasy, put a limit on them, and let them doing this at maximum 5 times per day, so the other time must be in free chat. Some of these veterans are hiding in premium for almost 1 week so far, and have never ever been in free chat again.
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It is kind of funny to hear "we care about the customers, that's why models can't hide in premium anymore" only to fall back on that after 2 months.
lol, yeah. I'm sure they felt that way until the girls chewed them out. I have to give them credit though, they know how to get what they want. I think sometimes the customers are a little too lax in comparison.
But, I don't know how much we're actually missing out. The women who wait in private, with the exception of a few, didn't do free chat well anyway. The women who can hold a convo and enjoy interacting are still using free.
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It is kind of funny to hear "we care about the customers, that's why models can't hide in premium anymore" only to fall back on that after 2 months.
lol, yeah. I'm sure they felt that way until the girls chewed them out. I have to give them credit though, they know how to get what they want. I think sometimes the customers are a little too lax in comparison.
But, I don't know how much we're actually missing out. The women who wait in private, with the exception of a few, didn't do free chat well anyway. The women who can hold a convo and enjoy interacting are still using free.
12 noon here, 19 women logged in
5 in 1-on-1
1 in Premium
3 waiting in Premium
10 in Free
There's rarely a perfect solution to any perceived problem, but the early returns look good. When given the flexibility it needs, the market usually works itself out.
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Doesn't really matter. You said you wouldn't let models hide in premium, and you went back on your word. I don't really care that much, it's just funny. I stopped believing you were customer-oriented when you reduced the bonus on $100 from 15% to 10%. Even the 12% bonus on $250 is a worse deal.
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Could you (HBC) please fix the full screen option so it doesn't distort the proportions of the video?
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HBC should make it a rule that if a model wants to wait in premium, she should be ready to chat right away. Logged in recently and waited over a minute for someone who was waiting in premium and all I saw was a pillow. I mean if you need to take a pee, then log off first. It was free that's one thing but to waste money looking at a pillow is ridiculous!
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It is kind of funny to hear "we care about the customers, that's why models can't hide in premium anymore" only to fall back on that after 2 months.
It's midnite here on the west coast (USA) and there are currently 12 women logged into the system.
1 is in 1-on-1 chat
2 are waiting in Premium
9 are in Free
Since the beginning of the rollout, we have listened to feedback from customers and models and made changes accordingly. Not all models have or will use the optional room selection feature, so there will almost always be Free rooms for users to check out. Veteran models have more than earned that degree of latitude and allowing them to operate as they did previously is the right thing to do, so we corrected our mistake.
I believe that the best thing you can do, is put limits. For example for the models that can hide in premium/fantasy, put a limit on them, and let them doing this at maximum 5 times per day, so the other time must be in free chat. Some of these veterans are hiding in premium for almost 1 week so far, and have never ever been in free chat again.
That won't work either because they'll walk away from the cam if they are required to be in free chat.
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HBC should make it a rule that if a model wants to wait in premium, she should be ready to chat right away. Logged in recently and waited over a minute for someone who was waiting in premium and all I saw was a pillow. I mean if you need to take a pee, then log off first. It was free that's one thing but to waste money looking at a pillow is ridiculous!
Here here! I don't think anyone disagrees with that. Dollar per minute, the site is already as expensive as a live session, if not more. Paying to wait for a model to show up, even for a minute or two, is garbage.
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HBC should make it a rule that if a model wants to wait in premium, she should be ready to chat right away. Logged in recently and waited over a minute for someone who was waiting in premium and all I saw was a pillow. I mean if you need to take a pee, then log off first. It was free that's one thing but to waste money looking at a pillow is ridiculous!
Correct - that is the guideline. If there's a "waiting" tag on the room, then it's reasonable to expect that the model will be present when you log in. Just email us at help@herbicepscam.com with a quick note about what happened and we'll gladly refund any lost credits. Be sure to let us know your username and the model's name as well as the date that it happened.
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HBC should make it a rule that if a model wants to wait in premium, she should be ready to chat right away. Logged in recently and waited over a minute for someone who was waiting in premium and all I saw was a pillow. I mean if you need to take a pee, then log off first. It was free that's one thing but to waste money looking at a pillow is ridiculous!
Correct - that is the guideline. If there's a "waiting" tag on the room, then it's reasonable to expect that the model will be present when you log in. Just email us at help@herbicepscam.com with a quick note about what happened and we'll gladly refund any lost credits. Be sure to let us know your username and the model's name as well as the date that it happened.
Unfortunately i can't remember the date, think it was last Sat or Sun. Don't suppose that's enough? If it is then I'll email you the model's name.
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Unfortunately i can't remember the date, think it was last Sat or Sun. Don't suppose that's enough? If it is then I'll email you the model's name.
[/quote] check on your dashboard , then transtraction history, and you will see the name of the model, the date, and the credits you spend on her.
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There is a simple fix, unless you know the performer and her tendencies, do not go into the waiting in premium rooms. I have lost a few dollars here and there for that reason, but I consider it all my fault. I took the risk, and lost what I was willing to lose. It is a total crap shoot.
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lol, not sure how that's your fault, but ok
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Unfortunately i can't remember the date, think it was last Sat or Sun. Don't suppose that's enough? If it is then I'll email you the model's name.
Yes, let us know your username and the model's name.
check on your dashboard , then transtraction history, and you will see the name of the model, the date, and the credits you spend on her.
Yep!
There is a simple fix, unless you know the performer and her tendencies, do not go into the waiting in premium rooms. I have lost a few dollars here and there for that reason, but I consider it all my fault. I took the risk, and lost what I was willing to lose. It is a total crap shoot.
It is true that many customers are probably not going to email us about small refunds of a few credits or even a few dollars, but we remain steadfast in our commitment to making sure our customers feel they are getting what they're paying for. We WANT people to send us those emails! It helps us not only to know when the system has issues, but also when performers are not meeting their obligations. If a model is consistently using the "wait" feature without actually being present, we need to know about it so that we can counsel her on the proper use of this privilege, which may result in removing it if she is not able to act in good faith with our customers. If she's gone for 5 seconds because she was putting her coffee cup in the sink, that's one thing, but if you're sitting there waiting 30-40 seconds or more because she's on her phone or on the potty, whatever, then you should definitely let us know so that we can issue that refund as quickly as possible.
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HBC you have not addressed the situation of the windows jumping all around when we scroll over them to take a look at what is going on in the room. I totally get it if the feature only lasts a few seconds so we don't peer at them outside of free chat but it is nice to see if she is in the room and to get a look at what she is wearing and her demeanor before deciding what room to enter.
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lol, not sure how that's your fault, but ok
as far I am concerned, paying for something sight unseen is always the buyers fault. When you do as such you take the assumption that the seller is being honest with their goods and services, but the buyer assumes the risk.
There is a simple fix, unless you know the performer and her tendencies, do not go into the waiting in premium rooms. I have lost a few dollars here and there for that reason, but I consider it all my fault. I took the risk, and lost what I was willing to lose. It is a total crap shoot.
It is true that many customers are probably not going to email us about small refunds of a few credits or even a few dollars, but we remain steadfast in our commitment to making sure our customers feel they are getting what they're paying for. We WANT people to send us those emails! It helps us not only to know when the system has issues, but also when performers are not meeting their obligations. If a model is consistently using the "wait" feature without actually being present, we need to know about it so that we can counsel her on the proper use of this privilege, which may result in removing it if she is not able to act in good faith with our customers. If she's gone for 5 seconds because she was putting her coffee cup in the sink, that's one thing, but if you're sitting there waiting 30-40 seconds or more because she's on her phone or on the potty, whatever, then you should definitely let us know so that we can issue that refund as quickly as possible.
I totally get where you are coming from on this. But like I replied just above, I consider it the same as buying something sight unseen. When you go into a room that says "Waiting," it is assumes the performer is waiting and should be in a some what similar shape to what is portrayed in her profile picture, but the buyer is inherently going in under assumption. I fully understand that it should be a privilege to the performers who do not misuse it and it should be reported. But if I as the consumer waste more then 10 seconds in there with no host, that is me being stupid.
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lol, not sure how that's your fault, but ok
as far I am concerned, paying for something sight unseen is always the buyers fault. When you do as such you take the assumption that the seller is being honest with their goods and services, but the buyer assumes the risk.
No, it's dishonesty and theft on the part of the girl. She's claiming to be offering her services but is stealing. It's no different than asking her to flex and having her refuse. Sometimes it's not worth your time to email and complain about losing $2, but it's absolutely not your fault.
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I joined last summer for my birthday, under the old system, and I must have spread out premium sessions with some ladies I always wanted to meet for around $300. It is a tease but I finally got to talk and go one-on-one with Laurie Steele, Nuriye Evans and Amber Deluca and found out that they were nice, professional and sexy. As you guys know Amber does tour but she is way out of my price range, and Laurie & Nuriye do not, so it was the only way I could interact and find out for myself what they really look like and how they are. I was pleasantly surprised. ("Hot Italian" who tours, was also a gem.) I checked out a few ladies on the "free" that are on tour, looked nice, but are complete stiffs. (No I won't go through names.)
I've visited there in the past month or two with the new site regularly - with $0 in my account - and more and more women are "waiting in PREMIUM" or whatever the phrase is. I agree that is pure B.S. While some of the ladies genuinely prepare to go online and get made up and look like their stills, others are eating meals online, do not interact with the guys visiting their page, don't wear makeup, wear sweats and act like we are doing them a favor to visit them. Some are on three sites at once, while others in the "free" mode show you their bedroom and furniture and aren't even on the screen.
If you choose this type of entertainment my advice is to choose "name" ladies who you want to interact with, SET A BUDGET and pass on joining a "waiting in PREMIUM" model.
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lol, not sure how that's your fault, but ok
as far I am concerned, paying for something sight unseen is always the buyers fault. When you do as such you take the assumption that the seller is being honest with their goods and services, but the buyer assumes the risk.
No, it's dishonesty and theft on the part of the girl. She's claiming to be offering her services but is stealing. It's no different than asking her to flex and having her refuse. Sometimes it's not worth your time to email and complain about losing $2, but it's absolutely not your fault.
I guess we are just going to have to disagree there. Though I do see it as being totally dishonest, the consumer is still taking a risk on something you have not seen. I guess the terminology of it saying she is "waiting in premium" infers she is sitting there waiting to flex for you. But the reality is that it is not going to be true all the time. Dishonest, yes. Where I see the fault falling on the consumer is in staying in the room. If you go in a room and spend more then 10 seconds waiting for a response, that is your fault. Losing $2 means you where in the room for about 30 seconds before you realize there is no performer there. Personally I see it being something totally different then having a performer refuse to flex, in this is she outright refusing to do something she is being paid to do. But, I guess we will have to disagree as it seems neither of us are going to budge on their stance.
Only thought to prevent this would be to have it so the performer has to accept the premium request when she is "waiting." I know when it goes from free to premium it has to accepted, wonder there a is way to make it so the performer has to actively accept the premium request while she is listed as "waiting?"
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This isn't investing, it isn't a risk-based thing. You're paying money for a service. That service is to see a woman flex her biceps, or something similar. If she doesn't deliver, that's theft, plain and simple. If you buy king sheets on amazon, and it doesn't fit your king sized bed, you send it back and get a refund. Now if you go in her room and she's 20 lbs fatter than her pictures, that's more of a gray area.
It's easy to sit back and analyze someone's behavior in the moment. Realistically, someone might think "maybe if I just wait 30 seconds, she'll come back." There's really no need to blame the victim (the customer).
I agree with your 2nd paragraph. Or they could just get rid of hiding in pay chat again. Of course I doubt they'll do this since it pisses off the girls.
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a couple of recent things:
1) I guess it's a new feature, the quick clips window next to the chat. is it possible to move that to a different place or an option to minimize it? I can't expand the video screen as far as a like because the chat window gets crushed and then i can't type.
2) also, do the models have the ability to block incoming messages? there are a couple that i've tried to email and haven't been in with at all since the site update, and i obviously can't check every 30 mins to see if they're on, so not being able to contact them to ask availability is kind of a problem.
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a couple of recent things:
1) I guess it's a new feature, the quick clips window next to the chat. is it possible to move that to a different place or an option to minimize it? I can't expand the video screen as far as a like because the chat window gets crushed and then i can't type.
2) also, do the models have the ability to block incoming messages? there are a couple that i've tried to email and haven't been in with at all since the site update, and i obviously can't check every 30 mins to see if they're on, so not being able to contact them to ask availability is kind of a problem.
We understand what you're saying about the Quick Clips. We should be making that change relatively soon.
Please email us directly regarding any blocks. If a model blocks you, then when you're logged in, her profile won't be visible to you and you cannot send messages to her.
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Some of the women have their email feature shut off. I have tried to email more than one girl while she was on hbc and it would not go through. When I asked her about it chat both girls told me to use the email addresses they use on wb or sessiongirls. Some of the popular girls receive a staggering amount of emails and try to limit the sources to simplify things.
Now Flemflex what about those bouncing windows when you try to get a live look at them? I have asked about it more than once in this thread and you are ignoring me. When they are waiting in private why can't you get a preview without spending money?
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Hey , i would like to ask 2 things.
1] In order to leave a review on the profile of a model, we have to take her in one-on one chat only;; Why does that happen; We should be able to leave a review on every type of chat, in order to help the others about some things that the model is good and some things that she may not be. Why must we write these reviews here;
2]. Why and which models have a minimum account of credits on private chats; Why ; Some of them have a minimum of 100 credits for even a premium chat, so they dont want to earn 90 credits or even 30 but they have so much confidence, that they deserve and will definitely earn much more ;
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Some of the women have their email feature shut off. I have tried to email more than one girl while she was on hbc and it would not go through. When I asked her about it chat both girls told me to use the email addresses they use on wb or sessiongirls. Some of the popular girls receive a staggering amount of emails and try to limit the sources to simplify things.
I thought I had mentioned this already, but it's possible that "HBCmail" may go unread. You're right about the volume some women receive. But, if the message is not opened, then the credits are returned to the user's account.
Now Flemflex what about those bouncing windows when you try to get a live look at them? I have asked about it more than once in this thread and you are ignoring me. When they are waiting in private why can't you get a preview without spending money?
Not ignoring you at all - we took your feedback and implemented the change. :) The bouncing window issue should be resolved for all Chrome and Safari users.
Regarding the "waiting" feature, if any user goes into a room and it's not what he expected, he should leave the room right away and notify us in order to get a refund.
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Hey , i would like to ask 2 things.
1] In order to leave a review on the profile of a model, we have to take her in one-on one chat only;; Why does that happen; We should be able to leave a review on every type of chat, in order to help the others about some things that the model is good and some things that she may not be. Why must we write these reviews here;
You can leave a review for Premium, Fantasy, or One-on-One, as long as the session was at least 10 minutes in length. Be sure to type your review quickly and before selecting a star rating.
2]. Why and which models have a minimum account of credits on private chats; Why ; Some of them have a minimum of 100 credits for even a premium chat, so they dont want to earn 90 credits or even 30 but they have so much confidence, that they deserve and will definitely earn much more ;
Good question. We put some thought into this at the beginning, but I think the system ended up defaulting to 100 without our prompting and before we made the correction. If you are still seeing this in some rooms, please email us (help@herbicepscam.com) to let us know which models have this issue. Thanks.
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Gotcha. I'm not blocked by this particular model, just seems I can't send messages (haven't been able to at all since the switch)
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2]. Why and which models have a minimum account of credits on private chats; Why ; Some of them have a minimum of 100 credits for even a premium chat, so they dont want to earn 90 credits or even 30 but they have so much confidence, that they deserve and will definitely earn much more ;
Good question. We put some thought into this at the beginning, but I think the system ended up defaulting to 100 without our prompting and before we made the correction. If you are still seeing this in some rooms, please email us (help@herbicepscam.com) to let us know which models have this issue. Thanks.
So what do you mean; Must the models have the maximum account of credits on private shows or not; Personally i think that the best for the site and the models are not to put these ''limits'' and be free, in order to earn more money that which they will earn if they have a maximum account of credits like 20-50 or 100 credits. If you mean that they shouldhnt , do you want me to send you an email with the names of the models that they have this problem; thanks
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Hey , i would like to ask 2 things.
1] In order to leave a review on the profile of a model, we have to take her in one-on one chat only;; Why does that happen; We should be able to leave a review on every type of chat, in order to help the others about some things that the model is good and some things that she may not be. Why must we write these reviews here;
You can leave a review for Premium, Fantasy, or One-on-One, as long as the session was at least 10 minutes in length. Be sure to type your review quickly and before selecting a star rating.
Holy smokes! Spend at least 10 minutes to qualify to place a review? If you're unsatisfied with the performer, you have to put up with putting in that much time to write a review for others to see. This tactic discourages any honest negative feedback. Every performer under this system would get no reviews or glowing ones. Completely biased! :what:
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And if you don't type up your review in the few seconds you have after the private is over, you need to do another 10 minutes. Heh. I'm not sure that those 2 word reviews are useful anyway, I assume people just read forums like here for information. Do people honestly look at their star rating and not at their body when choosing whether to go private?
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Holy smokes! Spend at least 10 minutes to qualify to place a review? If you're unsatisfied with the performer, you have to put up with putting in that much time to write a review for others to see. This tactic discourages any honest negative feedback. Every performer under this system would get no reviews or glowing ones. Completely biased! :what:
Maybe that is too long. What do you think the minimum session length should be in order to leave a review?
I have a couple of thoughts:
1) Many users look for reviews/ratings before choosing to invest in a show - a model with a lot of positive reviews is likely to get more business, while a model with few good reviews will get less. I would rather we invest in rewarding good behavior as opposed to looking for ways to be punitive. For example, here in CA, there's a new "law" that requires grocery stores to charge people 10 cents for each store bag they use. Why not give people a credit for NOT using store bags? CA does so many things wrong. But, I digress.
2) If a user tries a model out for a minute and recognizes that she's just not into the session for whatever reason - maybe she's had a bad day, maybe she's tired, maybe her conditioning is not what he expected, etc - he only needs to write to us, describe what happened, and with rare exception, we're refunding that session. Over time, we gather information which helps us to give more pointed feedback to the models in an effort to improve the service.
I have no problem saying that LisaK is an all-time great performer and if we'd had the review system in place during her time on HBC, I'm positive that her reviews would've reflected that, resulting in even more demand for her (even though she was rarely in free!). We understand that not every performer is suited for every customer, but we'd like to put more energy into helping people make "buy" decisions rather than "don't buy" decisions. I hope that makes sense. Nevertheless, I am definitely interested in hearing what you think a fair minimum would be.
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Maybe that is too long. What do you think the minimum session length should be in order to leave a review?
[/quote] 4 minutes is a good lenght.
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4 minutes is a good lenght.
Thanks for this feedback and for your suggestion. We have changed the minimum to 5 minutes.
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4 minutes is a good lenght.
Thanks for this feedback and for your suggestion. We have changed the minimum to 5 minutes.
Your welcome. And hope to change the minimum account of credits that we must have in order to do a private or fantasy chat(a lot of models have a minimum of 100 credits ). :)
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Your welcome. And hope to change the minimum account of credits that we must have in order to do a private or fantasy chat(a lot of models have a minimum of 100 credits ). :)
Is that true? I've never run into that.
i was thinking the same thing
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You know, I'm starting to understand as to why some people are showing some animosity towards the new changes with HBC. Here's another thing you can discuss:
It's a little difficult for me to watch...well, anything...since when I go to a model's pic, it mentions that I need to update or upgrade my Flash player. But here's the thing: My Flash player does tend to update automatically on my laptop and I do tend to use Chrome a lot now but I still can't watch the models or anything for that matter. And I'm sure some people are having the same problems as me, if they're using Chrome too.
I just hope they manage to fix this situation sooner or later.
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My experience was different with "Waiting in Premium." I joined, but I still had to wait for her to join, I didn't see her cam, and I wasn't charged. I guess she must have left some setting on by accident because she never showed up, and I was never charged.
So now I don't really get what "waiting" means, but I must say that my experience was still way better than what others described, i.e. paying for an off-cam performer.
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You know, I'm starting to understand as to why some people are showing some animosity towards the new changes with HBC. Here's another thing you can discuss:
It's a little difficult for me to watch...well, anything...since when I go to a model's pic, it mentions that I need to update or upgrade my Flash player. But here's the thing: My Flash player does tend to update automatically on my laptop and I do tend to use Chrome a lot now but I still can't watch the models or anything for that matter. And I'm sure some people are having the same problems as me, if they're using Chrome too.
I just hope they manage to fix this situation sooner or later.
Yeah, you probably gotta fix that one on your own. Just go to the settings and make sure that you allow flash to work all the time on that site...
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You know, I'm starting to understand as to why some people are showing some animosity towards the new changes with HBC. Here's another thing you can discuss:
It's a little difficult for me to watch...well, anything...since when I go to a model's pic, it mentions that I need to update or upgrade my Flash player. But here's the thing: My Flash player does tend to update automatically on my laptop and I do tend to use Chrome a lot now but I still can't watch the models or anything for that matter. And I'm sure some people are having the same problems as me, if they're using Chrome too.
I just hope they manage to fix this situation sooner or later.
Yeah, you probably gotta fix that one on your own. Just go to the settings and make sure that you allow flash to work all the time on that site...
Well, when I try to do that, it immediately went to Free Chat, Premium, etc. So I'm not sure if the site's problem or what, but I do let Flash work all the time on certain sites.
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Might still be a browser problem, but wouldn't hurt to ask I guess...
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My experience was different with "Waiting in Premium." I joined, but I still had to wait for her to join, I didn't see her cam, and I wasn't charged. I guess she must have left some setting on by accident because she never showed up, and I was never charged.
So now I don't really get what "waiting" means, but I must say that my experience was still way better than what others described, i.e. paying for an off-cam performer.
sounds like they changed the system. It used to be when you went into premium with a performer that was waiting in premium you would automatically go in, she did not need to accept the request. Based on your experience it appears that they changed that. That is good to hear.
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You know, I'm starting to understand as to why some people are showing some animosity towards the new changes with HBC. Here's another thing you can discuss:
It's a little difficult for me to watch...well, anything...since when I go to a model's pic, it mentions that I need to update or upgrade my Flash player. But here's the thing: My Flash player does tend to update automatically on my laptop and I do tend to use Chrome a lot now but I still can't watch the models or anything for that matter. And I'm sure some people are having the same problems as me, if they're using Chrome too.
I just hope they manage to fix this situation sooner or later.
I use Chrome on my desktop and I have not problems at all.
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You know, I'm starting to understand as to why some people are showing some animosity towards the new changes with HBC. Here's another thing you can discuss:
It's a little difficult for me to watch...well, anything...since when I go to a model's pic, it mentions that I need to update or upgrade my Flash player. But here's the thing: My Flash player does tend to update automatically on my laptop and I do tend to use Chrome a lot now but I still can't watch the models or anything for that matter. And I'm sure some people are having the same problems as me, if they're using Chrome too.
I just hope they manage to fix this situation sooner or later.
I use Chrome on my desktop and I have not problems at all.
And I don't have them now as it seems when I went back to the site. So I guess they did fix the problem npw.
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Hey i saw that some things have been changed since yesterday. I mean the waiting or joining premium chat or fantasy chat. How can we undertand now that a model is on private chat and doeshnt pretend to be ; And how can we join a chat; I dont see the waiting in premium/fantasy anymore just the words premim and fantasy and some times join the chat. If you have enough time please write any changes you are doing on the ''new site info'' so we can know exactly the things that have been changed . :)
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Hey i saw that some things have been changed since yesterday. I mean the waiting or joining premium chat or fantasy chat. How can we undertand now that a model is on private chat and doeshnt pretend to be ; And how can we join a chat; I dont see the waiting in premium/fantasy anymore just the words premim and fantasy and some times join the chat. If you have enough time please write any changes you are doing on the ''new site info'' so we can know exactly the things that have been changed . :)
I just looked and there is *PREMIUM* and PREMIUM with two little people things next to it. I am sure the *PREMIUM* is the same as the waiting tag. Also if you click on the PREMIUM tab it gives you pricing, if voyeur is not an option, one would have to assume she is waiting in premium. Seems pretty simple to me.
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I have given it a break not sure if I will return, been on and off for years. It seems the $$ has become way out of hand just to see the same 75-100 girls that are on there on a daily basis. I realize no one is under obligation to sign on etc... I won't miss it.
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So the transition back to letting models hide in premium is complete. If yo u hover over models in 'fantasy' or 'premium,' sometimes it says you can join as a voyeur, sometimes not.
At least with the old veersion you could spot the models who'd rather hide in premium that deal with annoying people/discuss pvt session and what they're willing to do in pvt befoure you're actually in pvt.
at first on the new site there was no hiding in pvt, but a model told me she didn't like the new system where you couldn't be in pvt without a customer, but that it was only going ot be temporary. then they switched to the "Premium" vs "Waiting in Premium" thing. now the "Waiting.." is gone but you know they hope you don't notice they just got rid of that shit.
Also, hbc, would you hire a fucking professional web developer already?
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They care about keeping the girls happy. There will always be a guy willing to pay.
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Have you guys figured out what a "Premium Performer" is? I've noticed that some of the ladies have snipes across their profile pics saying so.
I asked one of the PPs and she said that it means that they don't do anything adult in private. Is that the distinction?
Cuz if so, that's pretty much the opposite of "premium" by most definitions of that word. :what:
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Have you guys figured out what a "Premium Performer" is? I've noticed that some of the ladies have snipes across their profile pics saying so.
I asked one of the PPs and she said that it means that they don't do anything adult in private. Is that the distinction?
Cuz if so, that's pretty much the opposite of "premium" by most definitions of that word. :what:
It means exactly that. Nothing adult, only plain vanilla posing. A way to get big popular names into it by toning down the "seedy", which is fair enough.
Now why on earth they would call is "premium" when the already have terms of PREMIUM and *PREMIUM* boggles the mind, as they have nothing to do with each other. I can easily think of a dozen more communicative synonyms and english isn't even my first language. How about Preferred, Headliner, Special or something similar? Or Honeypot.
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It's all about marketing. They choose the word that they believe will get you most likely to spend money. It's like when they put *new* next to new performers (and occasionally next to performers that aren't new). Everyone knows when a new girl shows up on the site, 100 guys enter her room and act all nice for a short period before getting weird and started to push her past her limits as much as possible (and spend a ton of money on her her first few days until the novelty wears off).
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Hi i saw herbiceps uploaded a video on herbicepscam with the model ''Addicting''. Does anyone know if she is on hbc or not anymore because i have not seen her on for a lot of months.
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Hello does anybody know exactly how to buy credits on HBC-site by PayPal, Please?
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Hello does anybody know exactly how to buy credits on HBC-site by PayPal, Please?
there is no direct way to do it. Try emailing the admin on the site.
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Hello does anybody know exactly how to buy credits on HBC-site by PayPal, Please?
Might wanna get a credit card. If you aren't in the financial position to get one, I suggest you shouldn't be trying to buy webcams.
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Story of my life right now. I didn't realize how much I had sunk into the site this year alone, so I'm taking a LONGGGG break to get my finances under control before I return and make some purchases. If you're considering it be careful and have self control.
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If you don't have a credit/debit card and would like an alternative way to purchase credits, just send us an email at help@herbicepscam.com and we'll be happy to see whether we can work together to find a solution that will work for you.
We never want to discourage viewership - we want you to come take a look every day, if you have the time(!) - but we fully recognize that everyone lives in the real world where you work hard for your money. If you are having trouble with your spending and want us to close down your account access for a few months or even just a few weeks, let us know and we'll be happy to do that as well. We want people to feel good about their time spent on the site in the hopes that you will be with us for many years to come.
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Adding paypal would be great.
I don't care if the girls want to sit in premium for hours at a time, but if there is no one in their room we should be able to scroll over their picture and see what they currently look like.
Some idiot girls in free chat are covering their cam or have the cam focused on an empty chair.
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Adding paypal would be great.
I don't care if the girls want to sit in premium for hours at a time, but if there is no one in their room we should be able to scroll over their picture and see what they currently look like.
Some idiot girls in free chat are covering their cam or have the cam focused on an empty chair.
actually you are able to scroll over and see whats going on but i'm not sure if that's a vip only option. that's what i've been able to dd without going into free chat.
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No if they are sitting in premium/fantasy chat, you cant see how they look now while they are in this chat.. In the beginning of the new site some models used to leave a 10 seconds preview where they flexed a part of their body and you could see it only if you gave 10 credits but now this ishnt any more. No model has these 10 seconds previews anymore and i am sure of that because i am a vip member. Thats very unfair for us, because we cant see how they look but only take the risk , and thats why a lot of man joining them in premium chat or fantasy and they leave in 5-10 seconds, and they have spent 10 credits just for being so generous with them... Thats why i think no one of us should join theim in their premium or fantasy chats and risk losing even his 10 credits.
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Eh I think there asking a bit much if they are in premium or up
I'm always willing to spend a few credits even just to peek and see if their conditioning is something I'm interested in. Or physique. And then I make a decision.
But in general I only regularly visit 5/6 women and don't stray from that. And even then I'm usually always happy with their conditioning.
I'm also a VIP and I see previews all the time, even this past week.
Alsonthats the luck of the draw. Donyounknownhownkany times I've wanted and waited for someone woman to come On, finally get it and then someone takes them in one on one for an hour?
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Alsonthats the luck of the draw. Donyounknownhownkany times I've wanted and waited for someone woman to come On, finally get it and then someone takes them in one on one for an hour?
I feel your pain on that one, brother!
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Adding paypal would be great.
I don't care if the girls want to sit in premium for hours at a time, but if there is no one in their room we should be able to scroll over their picture and see what they currently look like.
Some idiot girls in free chat are covering their cam or have the cam focused on an empty chair.
actually you are able to scroll over and see whats going on but i'm not sure if that's a vip only option. that's what i've been able to dd without going into free chat.
I am vip and can not get a preview when they are sitting alone in premium
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Alsonthats the luck of the draw. Donyounknownhownkany times I've wanted and waited for someone woman to come On, finally get it and then someone takes them in one on one for an hour?
True story...
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I don't care if the girls want to sit in premium for hours at a time, but if there is no one in their room we should be able to scroll over their picture and see what they currently look like.
Some idiot girls in free chat are covering their cam or have the cam focused on an empty chair.
For models who have the "waiting" privilege, if they choose to sit in an empty room for hours, that's their choice to make.
We would prefer that models offer the best representation of themselves when logged into the site, but we don't have hard mandates in this regard. Models are allowed to set their own parameters and we do not want to over-police the rooms, so as a result, some free rooms are going to be a lot less interesting than others. One thing we have always been consistent about is that we want you, the customers, to spend money where YOU want. I'll occasionally mention models whom I find to be exceptional service providers, but ultimately, if you see a model isn't really that interested in EARNING your business, don't patronize her. We want visitors to feel good about every minute - and dollar - they spend on our sites.
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I don't care if the girls want to sit in premium for hours at a time, but if there is no one in their room we should be able to scroll over their picture and see what they currently look like.
Some idiot girls in free chat are covering their cam or have the cam focused on an empty chair.
For models who have the "waiting" privilege, if they choose to sit in an empty room for hours, that's their choice to make.
We would prefer that models offer the best representation of themselves when logged into the site, but we don't have hard mandates in this regard. Models are allowed to set their own parameters and we do not want to over-police the rooms, so as a result, some free rooms are going to be a lot less interesting than others. One thing we have always been consistent about is that we want you, the customers, to spend money where YOU want. I'll occasionally mention models whom I find to be exceptional service providers, but ultimately, if you see a model isn't really that interested in EARNING your business, don't patronize her. We want visitors to feel good about every minute - and dollar - they spend on our sites.
Do you have any research/stats that show that the models that are open and friendly in free chat tend to be got more paying/return guests over time?
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Do you have any research/stats that show that the models that are open and friendly in free chat tend to be got more paying/return guests over time?
Yes, the women who operated the best free rooms ever are among the highest per-hour earners ever. There's a direct correlation between making one's free room interesting and having generally high traffic and higher traffic generally means more customers.
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strong bump but haven't checked messages.
he's right. and those are the rooms i visit with regularity.
and because i visit regularly, more often than not I'll get a PM within a few moments.
If they aren't already going into 1:1 then i'm next up and i haven't had a bad time since. I only visit maybe 3-5 girls regularly. I know what they will deliver, and i won't get tired of it.
since my last posting my experience has been very very good. there have been a few hiccups (also i guess my cam isn't working anymore even though i allowed privileges--mods?) but on the whole i've been very happy. i've ALSO been limiting how much time and money i spend which has helped a lot.
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This was quite odd.... saw a new performer named hard package in HBC. The girl didn’t have a picture and was listed as new and to top it off she was in * Fantay * .... well I thought that girls who had been for long and made their name had this option . Quite dissapointing to say the least.
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Hey did you guys made a change on the site;; I used to see the girl without entering her room in free chat, but now i cant. I have to go to her room in order to see her. Why did you change it;; I think it is very disappointing for the girls , to see some man enter her room , just to see her for 2 seconds and leave.. Before you knew how she looks, so you wouldht enter her room , if you didht like the girl.
In addition, many times i am taking a girl in private show, the site doesht show image when i leave the free chat and enter the private show, so i have to close the page, and do a second try.
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Happened with me too
I know they have been having a problem with flash/chrome. But this is on all the browsers now. Maybe this is how they fix the other problem. By turning off the preview feature. I'm sure they are working on it.
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Maybe they are in the process of switching the site over to whatever (HTML5?) they will have to use since flash won't work after the end of the year.
Better to start on it now then wait until Oct or something, I guess
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Hey did you guys made a change on the site;; I used to see the girl without entering her room in free chat, but now i cant. I have to go to her room in order to see her. Why did you change it;; I think it is very disappointing for the girls , to see some man enter her room , just to see her for 2 seconds and leave.. Before you knew how she looks, so you wouldht enter her room , if you didht like the girl.
In addition, many times i am taking a girl in private show, the site doesht show image when i leave the free chat and enter the private show, so i have to close the page, and do a second try.
Happened with me too
I know they have been having a problem with flash/chrome. But this is on all the browsers now. Maybe this is how they fix the other problem. By turning off the preview feature. I'm sure they are working on it.
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Maybe they are in the process of switching the site over to whatever (HTML5?) they will have to use since flash won't work after the end of the year.
Better to start on it now then wait until Oct or something, I guess
Yes, we're doing some upgrades right now, so the preview feature is temporarily disabled.
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I am missing features of technical support on the private settings part, which used to be there but then have been removed: 1. checking the compability of flashplayer installed. 2. testing the own camera.
Every now and then I have problems with either of these, and spending valuable time in pvt to sort it out is not good a good option. And no: "try another browser" is not the answer that I am looking for either.
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I am missing features of technical support on the private settings part, which used to be there but then have been removed: 1. checking the compability of flashplayer installed. 2. testing the own camera.
Every now and then I have problems with either of these, and spending valuable time in pvt to sort it out is not good a good option. And no: "try another browser" is not the answer that I am looking for either.
We are beginning the migration away from Flash, so that's why you aren't seeing that prompt anymore. There is a significant amount of debugging to do, but we also have to keep the site operational. There are known issues with audio and cam-to-cam, but these 2 specific issues are not affecting most users. On the one hand, it's good that most users are unaffected. But on the other hand, that makes it harder to research what is going wrong for those who are experiencing these bugs.
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I am missing features of technical support on the private settings part, which used to be there but then have been removed: 1. checking the compability of flashplayer installed. 2. testing the own camera.
Every now and then I have problems with either of these, and spending valuable time in pvt to sort it out is not good a good option. And no: "try another browser" is not the answer that I am looking for either.
We are beginning the migration away from Flash, so that's why you aren't seeing that prompt anymore. There is a significant amount of debugging to do, but we also have to keep the site operational. There are known issues with audio and cam-to-cam, but these 2 specific issues are not affecting most users. On the one hand, it's good that most users are unaffected. But on the other hand, that makes it harder to research what is going wrong for those who are experiencing these bugs.
Moving away from flashplayer should sort out the one problem. However, it would be nice to have a tool to test out the own cam before going into pvt.. It used to be there (long time ago).
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Yes, we're doing some upgrades right now, so the preview feature is temporarily disabled.
Ok . Hope you bring it back, because it is very useful for all of us , to know how the model look , so we decide before if we enter her room or no. I know it is very bad for girls to see someone leave her room, after just 2 seconds.
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Some PC clients using Internet Explorer/Edge are able to access the site and have been able to do private sessions, but cannot do cam-to-cam. We do not support Explorer/Edge at all, even though people have been able to use them.
For PC clients, we support Chrome, Firefox, and Pale Moon. For Mac/MacBook clients, we support Safari. For iPad/iPhone, we support Chrome for iOS. Android users are also on Chrome.
Regarding the previously mentioned sound issue, we changed the "Microphone off" icon (which is a model option setting), so that was confusing to some users as the icon is not clickable. No problems have been reported since.
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is the automatic logging off being addressed as well?
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is the automatic logging off being addressed as well?
Yes, that issue has been resolved.
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Can we return to the site to what it used to be some weeks ago; From the time we changed it, 1. i cant see the models in preview , so i dont know what i will see on the room i go and sometimes i leave after some seconds which is very bad, especially if i am the only viewer she has, 2. i have done some private shows and i didht have sound to both of them, 3. sometimes in free chat i dont have image, so the models have to log in again(happened 2 times the last two days). I dont understand the reason that you did these changes, especially since we see the same mistakes that we were seeing before.
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The only good because i want to be fair is that i can have access to the site from google chrome which i couldht before.
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Can you use paypal to buy creds?
Please email us at help@herbicepscam.com for information on non-credit card payment methods. Thanks!
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Can we return to the site to what it used to be some weeks ago; From the time we changed it, 1. i cant see the models in preview , so i dont know what i will see on the room i go and sometimes i leave after some seconds which is very bad, especially if i am the only viewer she has, 2. i have done some private shows and i didht have sound to both of them, 3. sometimes in free chat i dont have image, so the models have to log in again(happened 2 times the last two days). I dont understand the reason that you did these changes, especially since we see the same mistakes that we were seeing before.
Change is constant. ;)
I'm unsure about the preview option. The feeds will be completely different than before. We've had a good run with Flash, but it's time to retire her.
Regarding room audio, the most likely causes are 1) model audio is off, 2) model system sound is off/not working, or 3) user system sound not working. The easiest fix for 2 or 3 is usually a simple system restart. Please email us so that we can troubleshoot with you directly.
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Guys what the hell have you done to the site;;; Half of the members dont have access to the model in free chat. Most messages today where from guys that didt have video, even though they refreshed. I had the same problem too. I needed to restart my pc so i can see the model. Please take a look at it.
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Site is just completely busted for me. Preview doesn't work, audio doesn't work. And now it looks like models can't even see the text I type. And when I try to email them, it keeps saying I have banned words in my message even though there's nothing of the sort in there.
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Guys what the hell have you done to the site;;; Half of the members dont have access to the model in free chat. Most messages today where from guys that didt have video, even though they refreshed. I had the same problem too. I needed to restart my pc so i can see the model. Please take a look at it.
There was indeed a strange mixture of things happening the past couple of days, including some people reporting that Microsoft Edge is performing best for them once their machines picked up the new Chromium-based update. I'm sorry you had this frustrating experience, but also glad that restarting your system resolved the issue you were having. If I may ask, do you know whether your browser updated during the restart? Or do you think it was merely clearing the cache that enabled you to see the model?
Site is just completely busted for me. Preview doesn't work, audio doesn't work. And now it looks like models can't even see the text I type. And when I try to email them, it keeps saying I have banned words in my message even though there's nothing of the sort in there.
We're sorry you have been having this experience recently. Regarding the text chat problem yesterday, we mistakenly created that glitch and because the error was so tiny (but the impact so large!), it took a couple hours to figure out exactly what had happened. We also sorted the system messaging issue. The preview feature is not available at this time, but may return in the future. I looked up your account and credited back any session that appeared to have been interrupted and also added a few credits more for all the inconvenience. Thank you for this report and for being such a great - and patient(!) - customer.
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Guys what the hell have you done to the site;;; Half of the members dont have access to the model in free chat. Most messages today where from guys that didt have video, even though they refreshed. I had the same problem too. I needed to restart my pc so i can see the model. Please take a look at it.
There was indeed a strange mixture of things happening the past couple of days, including some people reporting that Microsoft Edge is performing best for them once their machines picked up the new Chromium-based update. I'm sorry you had this frustrating experience, but also glad that restarting your system resolved the issue you were having. If I may ask, do you know whether your browser updated during the restart? Or do you think it was merely clearing the cache that enabled you to see the model?
Site is just completely busted for me. Preview doesn't work, audio doesn't work. And now it looks like models can't even see the text I type. And when I try to email them, it keeps saying I have banned words in my message even though there's nothing of the sort in there.
We're sorry you have been having this experience recently. Regarding the text chat problem yesterday, we mistakenly created that glitch and because the error was so tiny (but the impact so large!), it took a couple hours to figure out exactly what had happened. We also sorted the system messaging issue. The preview feature is not available at this time, but may return in the future. I looked up your account and credited back any session that appeared to have been interrupted and also added a few credits more for all the inconvenience. Thank you for this report and for being such a great - and patient(!) - customer.
Thank you, I really appreciate it. I do really like this site and plan to keep on using it. I think you guys are doing a good job and hopefully the issues get resolved soon.
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Hello Gents
I know this is not perhaps the official technical room of HBC, but I`d like to see if I`m facing the same problems of some of you,
Such as, model-cam freezing all the time, mostly when I can activate the sound or not. I precise that I have the most fluid interactions with the same
models before, and not anymore.
Or the loading to the cam is rotating non-stop, and generally if I have problem to get with Safari, then I was jumping on Chrome. But now both
navigators are facing the same problems. I have a solid internet that never failed me before :/
Is this because of the confinement? Everyone is on HBC all day ? There is an overpopulation there ?
Do we have to wait for technical updates ?
Thanks for your help.
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I am using HBC since like very beginning, spent there GDP of small 3rd world country but with this "engine chance" i have stopped using it at all. I dont even care about previews etc. For me its about cam quality and secondly about fluidity of the model stream. Now it is a roulette -ladies which i didnt have problems before now stutter like they would transmitting from Mars. Not coming back - time to move on.
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I am using HBC since like very beginning, spent there GDP of small 3rd world country but with this "engine chance" i have stopped using it at all. I dont even care about previews etc. For me its about cam quality and secondly about fluidity of the model stream. Now it is a roulette -ladies which i didnt have problems before now stutter like they would transmitting from Mars. Not coming back - time to move on.
You know a female muscle webcam site where all the women transmit in 1080 (or higher) and their connections make them look as if they are standing next to you? Please share
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I think i didnt write it very clear then :) My point was
1. Was loyal to HBC
2. Got shafted with some new engine - didnt help me with anything - cam quality is as shit as it was for a lot of ladies + most of them now stutter
3. Not spending money on cam anymore due to 2 (maybe a good thing)
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Great job getting previews back up and running! :rock:
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Great job getting previews back up and running! :rock:
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I had seen a new girl named lelly on April for some days , but she hasht been on since may... She was a really good girl and did everything you wanted. Hope she hasht left the site and be back soon..
https://www.herbicepscam.com/Lelly_/profile/
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Really impressed that you guys worked with sarah backman... Bravo... That was unexpexted....
Hope you can do some lift and carries with her as well.. and do many videos with her. :cool2:
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Bought some sarah backman videos. She is fantastic. Especially the ones who love lift and carry must buy her lift and carry video. She has a lot of fun..
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just waiting now for the BIG BLAKELEE UPDATE!
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you gotta love Ms.BumBum on HBC? She's a true athlete!
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Why is that negative reviews get removed from a model ... are the models given that user permission to do it or does the admin do it. Seen couple of negative reviews of Asian Goddess been removed.
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Titanic is amazing and is in 1 on 1 almost all day. When she does go to free there are 50 people in her room (with good reason)
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Great Post Wookie..the solitary profile pic does not come close to hinting at how good. The clip she's done there shows the size.
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The clip that titanic has posted is amazing. Great legs!!! Would like to know who she is too...
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Titanic is amazing and is in 1 on 1 almost all day. When she does go to free there are 50 people in her room (with good reason)
That might be because she is new. Guys like to jump on a new pretty woman who actually has muscle ;D
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Anyone ever seen Titanic smile? Never looks happy.
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Anyone ever seen Titanic smile? Never looks happy.
She will once she sees her direct deposit from this month.
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Anyone ever seen Titanic smile? Never looks happy.
From what I can tell, she is intently concerned with taking care of her clients. It's still pretty new for her, but I think she's enjoying it so far. Thanks to everyone who is patronizing her, and I think there may be some more videos coming out soon for those who have not been able to cam with her yet.
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Why is that negative reviews get removed from a model ... are the models given that user permission to do it or does the admin do it. Seen couple of negative reviews of Asian Goddess been removed.
Hmm interesting... I used to be a big fan of hers, but I definitely feel the quality of her shows have gone down in the past year or so.
Titanic is amazing and is in 1 on 1 almost all day. When she does go to free there are 50 people in her room (with good reason)
That might be because she is new. Guys like to jump on a new pretty woman who actually has muscle ;D
Yeah I think it'll die down eventually, but I also think she'll probably always be one of those girls who always immediatly gets scoped up into exclusive when they log online like
Anyone ever seen Titanic smile? Never looks happy.
She was smiling in her original profile pic ;) lol but yeah while I don't think I've ever seen her smile on cam now that you mention it, I never got the impression that she was unhappy. I think she just has RBF, which is ironic considering how sweet she it.
Anyone ever seen Titanic smile? Never looks happy.
She will once she sees her direct deposit from this month.
lolol this was my thought as well. I know she made BANK this month. She made close to 1k just off of me alone....
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Anyone ever seen Titanic smile? Never looks happy.
She is not the only one. Compared to other ladies like Babybeefcake, Jodi and Cheryl never smile either. Its as if they are not that...engaged. But not everyone can pretend they are interested in whatever the guys are saying.
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eek, maybe things aren't going as well as one would hope. Just logged on for the first time in a long time. in one girl's room she kept repeatedly asking for tips then said "f*ck you guys" and left, another girl she asked some guy if he was a f*g. hopefully there are some other girls who aren't scaring guys off :) I saw titanic was on too, never seen her before. nothing interesting happened, though only a couple guys were in there, not 50. not smiling, but nothing unpleasant.
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eek, maybe things aren't going as well as one would hope. Just logged on for the first time in a long time. in one girl's room she kept repeatedly asking for tips then said "f*ck you guys" and left, another girl she asked some guy if he was a f*g. hopefully there are some other girls who aren't scaring guys off :) I saw titanic was on too, never seen her before. nothing interesting happened, though only a couple guys were in there, not 50. not smiling, but nothing unpleasant.
The worst marketing for the current overall line-up is the ad for clips. All that wealth of talent in the past and the best of what is live now is Titanic who could best be described as dime a dozen in the glory days. It's all very Emperor's New Clothes with her. A model making a mint who looks miserable and the others who aren't earning are miserable too.
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is there any plan at all to reup the old content? stuff of like old michelle russell or gina farnsworth from before the site switch--it might not be HD or 4K but to us it's still extremely valuable.
i dont' think you'd have to upload everything that was posted but certainly the most popular stuff would do very well
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is there any plan at all to reup the old content? stuff of like old michelle russell or gina farnsworth from before the site switch--it might not be HD or 4K but to us it's still extremely valuable.
i don't think you'd have to upload everything that was posted but certainly the most popular stuff would do very well
"All"? No. Content that was produced prior to 2019 is added to the model site on an ongoing basis. There is no release timetable, but if a model was great for us and if we still have material that can be formatted for publication, then they will likely be added at some point in the future.
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oh i was speaking more of the for-purchase cam records or model videos prior to the HBC revamp. Some of them would still be vaild (Michelle Russell had a pretty large library, but someone like Gina who isn't around anymore wouldn't have a profile to place them). IIRC users that had purchased these videos way back when still have access them them in the "My Videos" section with the rest of the purchases
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oh i was speaking more of the for-purchase cam records or model videos prior to the HBC revamp. Some of them would still be vaild (Michelle Russell had a pretty large library, but someone like Gina who isn't around anymore wouldn't have a profile to place them). IIRC users that had purchased these videos way back when still have access them them in the "My Videos" section with the rest of the purchases
That's not really how it works. Database migration is tricky and inexact, but I was pleased that so many of the old vids did make it over safely for the active model profiles. Legacy users who bought clips long ago still have access to many of them, but a good many were lost. There is no HBC archive of old model-produced videos. Those are the property of the individual models, so it would be up to them whether to reload the content onto the new platform.
One of the more surprising phenomena has been guys requesting that their entire accounts - including old videos - be deleted. I say surprising, because once gone, the old clips cannot be recovered and a high percentage of people requesting to be forgotten will return some weeks later requesting that their accounts be restored.
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For me since 3 months it si mpossible to add money !! Why ? I don't know !!!
I ve sended a lot of mails and always the same answers !!! but no solutions
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I'm the single here to have problems for add money on HBC !!!! it s always impossible for me
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I'm the single here to have problems for add money on HBC !!!! it s always impossible for me
Always email us directly about any purchase issues. help@herbicepscam.com
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Folks,
What browser on an iPhone does HBC work on ? I tried safari and chrome and the video doesn’t load … any help here… thanks
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What IOS version are you running?
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I am on ios16 … the site has had some upgrades and now I am able to see cams on the mobile … Thanks Mate 👍😀
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Anybody else getting a URL:Phishing warning?
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No warning from me.
It has been a few weeks since I visited. What happened to Monstress?
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No warning from me.
It has been a few weeks since I visited. What happened to Monstress?
What do you mean? I saw her online a few days ago but did not go in. Did something happen to her?
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Odd. I stand corrected, I see her now. False alarm, sorry.
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Anybody else getting a URL:Phishing warning?
AVG gave us a false positive, so some users got that warning for a couple of days. Fortunately, once we sourced the issue, we were able to repair it quickly.
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Is the pay system down in HBC ? If so they should atleast do a broadcast message