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News and Discussion => Polls about female body builders or fitness stars => Topic started by: RobMash on June 24, 2015, 10:38:49 pm
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More and more athletes flex the biceps with open hands...
DOUBLE BICEPS POSE: closed hands or open hands?
(http://i61.tinypic.com/v7r42u.jpg)
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I personally think they should do closed hands in everything except their free posing which they should be able to do what ever they want.
Closed hands shows off the forearm muscles, many are going open hands as it makes the Biceps look slightly larger as the forearm is smaller unflexed. So in essence open hands is a bit of cheating as they are trying to cover up a weak body part.
Its the same idea as the smaller calf muscles many sport these days. Smaller calf muscles make the upper leg look bigger but its still a cheat in its intent to cover up a weak body part and should be severely marked down. Besides the point when you under develop one area to cover another area you end up with two under developed muscles. So in my opinion its pretty stupid.
If we had a proper pro body building federation these kinds of horrors would not be here. But alas the IFBB is a Weider promotion vehicle and not a proper body building federation.
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A personal "peeve" is when the thumb is put "inside," or under the fingers and toward the palm...like a fist but one that would allow your thumb to break if you hit something with the "fist." :what: The whole thing looks...awkward...you know...?
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I personally think they should do closed hands in everything except their free posing which they should be able to do what ever they want.
Closed hands shows off the forearm muscles, many are going open hands as it makes the Biceps look slightly larger as the forearm is smaller unflexed. So in essence open hands is a bit of cheating as they are trying to cover up a weak body part.
Its the same idea as the smaller calf muscles many sport these days. Smaller calf muscles make the upper leg look bigger but its still a cheat in its intent to cover up a weak body part and should be severely marked down. Besides the point when you under develop one area to cover another area you end up with two under developed muscles. So in my opinion its pretty stupid.
If we had a proper pro body building federation these kinds of horrors would not be here. But alas the IFBB is a Weider promotion vehicle and not a proper body building federation.
Couldn't agree more. K+
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My understanding is that the open hand bicep pose is a requirement in the Physique division, as it is supposed to be a more "feminine" way to pose. NABBA have adopted this policy between their (now defunct) Physique division ( IFBB/NCP equivalent to FBB) and Figure ( which IFBB/NCP adopted years later and call it their Physique division).
You will note that many FBB's downgrading to Physique will often "forget" and hit a clenched fist pose before reverting to the open fist variation which is a requirement in Physique. I wonder the judges ever penalise the athlete for this...
I have not observed the open fist pose used a lot in FBB contests, not more that it ever has, anyway, closed fist is still the preferred variation, and in still photo's is a major way of identifying if you are looking at an FBB or Physique competition.
I prefer closed fist, and wish Physique would allow the pose more often, but I have been surprised to see how the bicep shape can vary between athletes when switching between open and closed in the same "Hit". In many athletes, it is quite pleasing to see a transition between open to closed in the same pose, really shows off the development they have achieved, and gives a sort of transition of half power to full power with the move into clenched fist, a demonstration of muscle expansion. It allows you to take in the development and see different views and shapes = more interesting.
By the way, love the idea of Bikini, Figure and Fitness flexing Rob! But I think we will have to be happy with the back stage flexing by athletes from the non flexing side of the sport, as I feel the IFBB / NCP wish there to be an option for non flexing contests and bodybuilding meets.
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In bodybuilding, CLOSED HANDS. :thanks:
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I'm agree with with the thought of timmon and Sar-Net
Personally I don't like this choice of IFBB and by some athletes to pose double biceps only with open hands, especially among the few remaining female bodybuilders and physique athletes. it would take at least a transition between closed and open poses biceps. I don't understand why IFBB supposed double biceps with opne hands more "feminine", it's only less technique than double biceps with closed hands.
When there is muscles shouldn't be hidden but show with proud...
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At Fitness i be used on the open hand pose, but the close hand pose shows of more details on the bicep so at BB i think closed is better
At the free posing and the routine i do some short cloded hand bi poses too because i know the judges like.
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Voted for both because like both poses. Every variation has a place to be shown.
At contest the BB girls have to shoe max power / muscle and definition, this is the closed hand pose. But they have to shoe the guns in a feminine way to so the open hand must be shown too. At the the others it would be great to show both too. At fitness or bikini maybe.both but the main has to be there the open hand pose.
A turn from open hand to closed hand pose would be a good idea too for show the change of the bicep view.
At other situations for show biceps it depends on situation, at my dance coeografics i only show the open hand variatio in a move because it fits better andi like to show on a sexy way that i have bicep. At situations i like to show my bicep i like the closed hand pose at twisted wrist max angle with hard squezzing fist for max pop out peak and show max details of the bicep.
Often i like to do the turn from open hand to closed and always get good response.
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Was not asked for! But i guess same for single bicep pose.
:hey:
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Was not asked for! But i guess same for single bicep pose.
:hey:
Was thinking about because i be sure in my experience the single bicep pose is the most shown pose ever. No matter if Fitness, physiqye, bikini, BB or any other. :shhh:
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I strongly support closed hands, at least in body building contests. In bikini or fitness maybe open is ok also.
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(http://thumbnails108.imagebam.com/41896/e40e74418954465.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/e40e74418954465)
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A personal "peeve" is when the thumb is put "inside," or under the fingers and toward the palm...like a fist but one that would allow your thumb to break if you hit something with the "fist." :what: The whole thing looks...awkward...you know...?
Same! I always cringed a bit, thinking in terms of a proper punch.
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8) Closed hands, show that power!
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8) Closed hands, show that power!
:bravo:
Open hands was originally obligatory for girls so make them more 'feminine' and with the demise of Female 'Bodybuilding' in favour of 'physique' and 'figure' has made a comeback... it's rubbish...
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Personally, I prefer closed hands since open hands can be distracting for me. However, I like open hands enough because it gives variety to the flexing pose.
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Closed hands, all day every day!!! ;)
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I like both because there needs to variation in posing. It makes it more entertaining for the spectators.
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Closed hands because it makes the forearms bigger.
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Personally, I prefer closed hands since open hands can be distracting for me. However, I like open hands enough because it gives variety to the flexing pose.
I kind of agree with this statement. However, it should be closed hands in posedown in both FBB and Women's physique.
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Closed hands is the best yes, because it says POWER, whereas open hands says, strong but graceful. There is room for both in my opinion! I'd like to see a very detailed, close-up video of closed hand vs open hand by a girl with big peaked biceps to discuss the virtues of each pose :)
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close hands, it looks more powerful
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A personal "peeve" is when the thumb is put "inside," or under the fingers and toward the palm...like a fist but one that would allow your thumb to break if you hit something with the "fist." :what: The whole thing looks...awkward...you know...?
I've seen both men and women do this. I learned how to make a fist at a young age in martial arts and thought this was awkward too.
These are the answers I've found.
According to Arnold's encyclopedia it brings out striations in the forearms and arms that are rarely otherwise seen. He also said it helps by making the pose 'flow' so there's not the shape of a thumb jutting out and detracting from the actual muscles/physique
In biceps poses, it makes the fist appear smaller, thus making the biceps look relatively larger.
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Open hands was only to make FBBs not seem "masculine," and basically to be in denial that women could have big muscles.
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I'd heard the only difference between bodybuilder and physique was bodybuilding was they posed with the hands closed and physique have hands open. I over heard that in the gym. But I didn't want to be rude and butt in. I personally say hands closed always
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My favourite pose is Closed hands: it gives the arm the shape of the power. But in some case I was favourable struck by some fbb that use open hands pose without loosing the dinamicity of the closed hands posed. Beyond the rules, I think that the choise is a matter of the personality and of the personal style of the girl.
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I like the pose with closed hands but with a open hands is meh. I have never drew a open hands with double biceps pose in doodles/sketches. Only the closed hands was good anyways.
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I think it is all a matter of personal preference and which would look better for the lady.
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My preference lies with alittle bit of both. I agree that the closed makes you look more powerful, but I think the open looks sexier. For me, there is nothing sexier than a woman who does a closed fisted double-bi and then, while still holding the pose, opens her hands.
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Close hands of course... Biceps looks bigger with close hands...
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Close hands of course, because double biceps pose with open hands is for poor skinny fitness and bikini girls. Bodybuilding only admits "close hands".
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Closed only. I think physique should feature bodybuilding posing instead of figure posing.
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Either is fine with me, as long as the bis look bulging.
BTW, who are the ladies in the pic?
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Either is fine with me, as long as the bis look bulging.
BTW, who are the ladies in the pic?
Hayley Mcneff and Lindsay Mulinazzi
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i like close hands on most muscular girls. On more petite open hands are fine!!
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I like the combination of them both, as seen in the gif here:
http://saradas.org/index.php?topic=455395.0
[thanks, femcepsfan]
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It all depends. Some days closed, others open. Depends on what the judges want to see when competeing.
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Closed hands make the biceps look bigger.
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I like the combination of them both, as seen in the gif here:
http://saradas.org/index.php?topic=455395.0
[thanks, femcepsfan]
Nice one. I like to combine other way at fitness stage. The open hand pose as requested and finally a short close hand before relax for show max peaks a second.
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Closed for preference. Open is okay. Only thing I don't like is when they grab their thumbs. Looks really dumb.
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Pretty much like everyone else -- I prefer closed, but I'm fine with open in physique.
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Tami Wooden always looked great with open hands.
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Do Bikini and Figure women even do double bicep poses? I thought they just did a few posturing stances on stage, all part of the desperate desire of organisers to have women on stage that don't look too muscular for the tastes of main stream audiences who aren't watching anyway.
I prefer the closed hand poses as it gives a sense of attitude and strength. The muscle didn't get there because the woman was flouncing around the gym using the mirrors to apply lip gloss. She worked damn hard to look amazing and posing with open hands is the same as trying to hit poses in high heels.