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Private Sessions => Warnings for Private Sessions & Scammers and Complaints => Topic started by: tunea on February 24, 2008, 06:54:43 pm

Title: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: tunea on February 24, 2008, 06:54:43 pm
Does anyone have any nightware tales to tell of a session that
turned out really bad? :o
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: tunea on February 26, 2008, 03:45:51 pm
This is not the first time I have heard that Gabby was rude during sessions,
seems maybe folks would want to avoid her in the future... >:(
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: peggy59 on March 12, 2008, 09:57:13 pm
Lauren Powers so, so. Tazzie Columb a dream . Gina Jones as wonderful as one could imagine. Debra D'Andrea the most enthusiastic woman on the planet. Could be good or bad depending on you.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: randy312 on March 13, 2008, 03:00:37 am
Ive had a session with Gabrielle and sadly yes she is a  bit rude and abrupt during sessions, never felt so unwelcome during a session, but having said that, she does have a great muscular body, and despite her rudeness i would actualy recommend her if youre not expecting fs.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: Casey on April 11, 2008, 01:20:25 am
I know this sounds like ancient history but I did a lot of sessions in my time.  Tina Lockwood, although massive and strong as an ox, was a huge disappointment.  Not only was she 2 hours late for our appointment but she did not stop talking the entire time (which really cut into my enjoyment).  She was obviously very nervous although I know this was far from her first session.  On the positive side, her arms and calves (especially her calves) were amazing.  18" biceps back in those days was unheard of.  Plus, she wasn't a clock watcher and did an extended session for no additional fee.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: DrPhil on March 26, 2010, 12:36:25 pm
bad session with Heather Fine. I once had a session 3 years ago with her that ranks among my top three. She had a very strong leg scissors. My neck was hurting for days afterwards. I recently had a session with her and it was awful. If I combine both that would make her average. It may be different for others but IMO stay away.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: bugs on March 26, 2010, 01:49:50 pm
bad session with Heather Fine. I once had a session 3 years ago with her that ranks among my top three. She had a very strong leg scissors. My neck was hurting for days afterwards. I recently had a session with her and it was awful. If I combine both that would make her average. It may be different for others but IMO stay away.

Your neck was only hurting a few hours the second session?
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: motenak on March 27, 2010, 12:25:45 am
bad session with Heather Fine. I once had a session 3 years ago with her that ranks among my top three. She had a very strong leg scissors. My neck was hurting for days afterwards. I recently had a session with her and it was awful. If I combine both that would make her average. It may be different for others but IMO stay away.

Please explain a little more.  Top 3 = neck hurting for weeks.  Awful = ???  If you left in a wheelchair with a broken neck would that be good or bad?
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: santino corleone on April 14, 2010, 05:26:10 pm
Luckily, the vast majority of my sessions were either good or great. Ironically, one of my few bad sessions was with Heather Fine
and Dr. Phil just posted about her. If I may comment, why did Dr. Phil see her a second time if the first was so bad ? That makes no sense IMO.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: yanni1 on April 17, 2010, 06:44:01 am
This isn't about a private  1-1 personal session. But I wanna say that I sent Isabelle Turrell $75 almost 1.5 years ago and never did get my private webcam session. Even after sending countless emails etc still nothing, even after she replied twice saying we would cam. Oh well, consider it a loss of not much cash. Try to stick with HerBiCam and other sites. It's your call if you wanna try to stretch your minutes via yahoo or msn messenger webcam, but remember u r paying in advance. I won't do it again.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: 20abreha20 on July 11, 2010, 03:37:00 pm
I had a really bad session with tatiana butler.
She wasnt really nice and i payed for 1 hour and i got only 30 minutes and the romm was also very cold.
never book tatiana butler
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: sissyboy on August 01, 2010, 02:06:04 am
Ms. Melissa, on the Female Wrestler List - who claims to be Isabelle Turrell - was a no show for a session.  She didn't even call in advance to let me know she wasn't coming, even though she knew I had come from out of town to meet her.  When I complained about this via email she did not even have a good explanation.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: Tyler D. on August 02, 2010, 02:05:18 am
Luciana Andrade (aka Xeena).  She was a no show.  We even confirmed on the phone twice before she travelled to my city.  One confirmation was weeks in advance and the other was days prior to the session.

I called her after 30 minutes had passed from the no-show and got no answer and she never replied to my voicemail or followup email.

Bad form for a bodybuilder.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: LeoSev on October 15, 2010, 08:08:37 am
I just read the thread on Ginger - Hot Mom in which she is said to have a boyfriend. One of the posters tells of how she mentioned right at the start of the session that she was travelling with him!

OK, chaps, listen up. I have heard this more than once. One lady claimed the he was "right next door" in the same hotel on the same floor and yet proceeded to do "everything but" with me and would probably have included the "but" as well if I had made an appropriate offer. Another one told me that her bf was with the Hell's Angels, San Francisco chapter and yet did not see the slightest issue with me sucking her off. So, it stands to reason that you do not always need to take the bf yarn at face value. It is, at least occasionally, a defensive strategy.

These ladies must have their share of bad experiences with our kind of hobbyist and this is one way of warning the client not to push his luck.

Needless to say that they shouldn't need this device to feel safe around us. So, keep your pants on unless *she* tears them off of you!
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: xyhg2001 on October 15, 2010, 12:48:40 pm
Ive never had them pull that card on me, but I have had plenty of intimate experiences with FBB's that had significant others.  It didn't stop them from doing any to everything.

Karma for you, Leo, and to to sponsors of this group. THe more we can do to set expectations the better, but in any event it is important to treat these women with respect.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: santino corleone on October 20, 2010, 04:30:14 pm
Never heard of the boy friend scam, interesting though.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: leor22222 on October 21, 2010, 04:45:55 am
the boyfriend scam is when he really shows up and beats the crap out of you after you paid for the session.  what you describe is not a scam.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: Warhawk Overdrive on December 02, 2010, 01:09:12 am
Luciana Andrade (aka Xeena).  She was a no show.  We even confirmed on the phone twice before she travelled to my city.  One confirmation was weeks in advance and the other was days prior to the session.

I called her after 30 minutes had passed from the no-show and got no answer and she never replied to my voicemail or followup email.

Bad form for a bodybuilder.

It's really annoying when they do that, I just hope you did not give her any $$ before hand. If that is the case all you lost was some time but if it makes you feel any better, I saw her once, and you did not miss anything
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: fredzeppelin on January 19, 2011, 11:04:32 pm
I had a seesion with Sharon marvel years ago where she showed up not only
with no muscle but FAT. As BIG as a house. 5 minutes into the session I politely
explained to her I wasnt interested, but that I would pay her half of the session fee
for her trouble. I offered her the cash and she took it and threw it in my face!

I suspect that she isnt a bad person usually she was probably pretty stressed that
day for some reason, and probably embarassed that she showed up in such bad shape.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: jimiji11 on January 21, 2011, 08:15:39 pm
hi i am writing from greece.i am supposed to have a session with kris clark tomorrow morning.i have called her 10 times and sent her 5 e-mails and she seems to be dissappeared.she was supposed to send me hotel information.does anyone had a similar situation with her? i am very dissapointed
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: Saradas.Org on January 21, 2011, 08:25:54 pm
hi i am writing from greece.i am supposed to have a session with kris clark tomorrow morning.i have called her 10 times and sent her 5 e-mails and she seems to be dissappeared.she was supposed to send me hotel information.does anyone had a similar situation with her? i am very dissapointed

Kris was online here today 01:31:03 pm about 8 hours ago.

This is her profile http://saradas.org/index.php?action=profile;u=45592. We recommend you to send her a pm.

Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: bugs on January 22, 2011, 02:11:36 am
hi i am writing from greece.i am supposed to have a session with kris clark tomorrow morning.i have called her 10 times and sent her 5 e-mails and she seems to be dissappeared.she was supposed to send me hotel information.does anyone had a similar situation with her? i am very dissapointed

She thought her cell phone would work in Europe but it doesn't.  The best way to contact her is to email her at clarkflex@yahoo.com.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: jimiji11 on January 22, 2011, 04:10:07 pm
everything ok with kris eventually.her phone had problem that's true.i had the session with her and i can say it clearly.she was the best session i ever had and i will ever have.she was beyond my imagination.more than perfect.beautiful,warm,clever and ripped.thank you for ever kris.u are a real star of life.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: calavera1975 on January 26, 2011, 07:47:33 pm
hi guys i contacted andreea mirotoi aka fitandrea and ask her if she want to coem in italy for a 2 hour session and accordfing to her we decided to do it for a week end i did send her airplane ticket and hotel confirmation and i also send her 300 euro that was the half of our session price and wanna knwo what?? i did wait to teh airport to her and she did nto come at all i called her and she told me she lose the airpplane and bla bla bla and told me she will send me my money back but she did not well is true i was a totally stupid but guys we have to broke all the contact with this girl she is a bad girl a bad person and is the most bad pubblicity she can make to FBB world i have meet lots of FBB and all was nice person this girl is nothing and so please do not ask her for web cam session or wrestlign session anymore so she learn how to live......
....and wanna knwo what when i say i was going to tell all that she did to this forum she told me she is going to tell that she discover i want to rape her thats why she did not come :)) really stupid of me but you do not make this mistake and tell that in all the others forum about this girl we help FBB with our money to reach their goal and so we do deserve some more respect i think

P.S. may i suggest to the boss here to open a sort of black list of girls that stole money liek this? i think is very good for us to know so we do not make anymore mistake and we use our money only for real good friendly girls
thanks and sorry for my english
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: osbolik on January 27, 2011, 10:27:14 am
m worst session is with Laureen Powers; she was very unfriendly and rude.
Another bad session was with Chelsea Clark; she was in bad shape and very different from the pics.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: gordonlloyd on January 27, 2011, 02:01:13 pm
hi guys i contacted andreea mirotoi aka fitandrea and ask her if she want to coem in italy for a 2 hour session and accordfing to her we decided to do it for a week end i did send her airplane ticket and hotel confirmation and i also send her 300 euro that was the half of our session price and wanna knwo what?? i did wait to teh airport to her and she did nto come at all i called her and she told me she lose the airpplane and bla bla bla and told me she will send me my money back but she did not well is true i was a totally stupid but guys we have to broke all the contact with this girl she is a bad girl a bad person and is the most bad pubblicity she can make to FBB world i have meet lots of FBB and all was nice person this girl is nothing and so please do not ask her for web cam session or wrestlign session anymore so she learn how to live......
....and wanna knwo what when i say i was going to tell all that she did to this forum she told me she is going to tell that she discover i want to rape her thats why she did not come :)) really stupid of me but you do not make this mistake and tell that in all the others forum about this girl we help FBB with our money to reach their goal and so we do deserve some more respect i think

P.S. may i suggest to the boss here to open a sort of black list of girls that stole money liek this? i think is very good for us to know so we do not make anymore mistake and we use our money only for real good friendly girls
thanks and sorry for my english

There is another side to this story -- if you go to Fit Andreas facebook page she is bad mouthing you pretty severely. Here is an exerpt of what she is saying:

  ALL FEMALE BODYBUILDERS AROUND THE WORLD PLEASE BEWARE OF GIOVANNI BRUNO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE CONTACTS FEMALE BODYBUILDERS FOR SESSIONS AND AFTER YOU GET IN ITALY TO HIM, HE WILL EXPECT YOU WITH OTHER 4 MEN!!! HE IS A RAPIST!!! BE VERY CAREFUL!!! HE'S VERY CONVINCING!!! HE CLAIMS THAT HE'S THE EX-HUSBAND OF ALINA POPA!!!
BEWARE OF THIS S...EX ADDICT PERSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and this:

AND HE IS NOT ALINA POPA'S EX-HUSBAND!!! HE TOLD ME NOTHING BUT LIES OF HER. HE TOLD ME THAT HE'S THE REASON FOR ALINA POPA BEING A PRO AND EVERYTHING THAT SHE IS TODAY IS BECAUSE OF HIM!!! HE TOLD ME THAT SHE IS ONLY A BITCH AND THAT SHE DOESN'T WORTH TO BE A PRO FBB. DON'T BELIVE THAT LIAR!!!!!!!! HE'S A RAPIST AND SOON HE WILL BE IN JAIL!!!!

and this:

HE'S JUST A STUPID LIAR THAT THOUGHT THAT I WON'T FIND OUT THE TRUTH ABOUT HIM FROM THE OTHER PRO FEMALE BODYBUILDERS THAT DIDN'T BELIVE HIM EITHER!!!
BE CAREFUL GIRLS!!! DON'T BELIVE THAT STUPID PERVERTED SEX ADDICTED MAN!!!! HE'S THE BIGG...EST LIAR OF ALL!!!

http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=100000134181380
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: Female Bodybuilding on January 27, 2011, 02:30:43 pm
That's alright but who tells the truth?

If calavera1975 is liar why does he use his real name and sent her money? How does andreea mirotoi aka fitandrea know that calavera1975 tells lie to rape her? A make up story?

Somebody have similar problem with andreea mirotoi aka fitandrea?

Or calavera1975 have you ever met other girls and any problem with them also?

Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: TheWizard on January 27, 2011, 06:14:21 pm
Oh wow.  Where's my bag of popcorn...better than watching a movie.  ;D
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: squeezemebaby on January 27, 2011, 07:15:46 pm
I'm pretty sure calavera1975s story is closer to the truth than Andreas.

I had it immedeately when reading this, but now I also found out some info from somebody who met calavera1975.

(I was told a good funny by somebody who speaks Italian. Calavera1975, now you can say "Andrea Miroto mi'a rotto le palle" now)

To me it feels like this is what happend:

guy hangs in girls webcamchat, or mails with girl
girl must make a living and keeps contact so she can make money in a nice way
guy tells about session
girl think its not that serious, but goes along a bit
guy gets more and more serious, girl goes along and cant say no anymore
ticket and money actually arrives
girl has one of those romanian bf's behind her that says "no you cant go; he might be a lunatic and rape you"
girl is stuck and cant go
now she doesnt know what to do: 300 euro can be send back, but ticket not. This can't be solved easely

So she chooses to act the way she does now. Cats can make weird jumps when being cornered.

Something like that.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: calavera1975 on January 27, 2011, 09:26:03 pm
wait wait wait i o not know what she wtite on her faceook page becouse she put me in igbnore list now but guys belive me she is totally crazy and she write me "if you tell anybody about what i did i will say taht i discoover you want to rape me and thats why i did not come" i have not intrest in tell that if you guys vbelive me beware of this girls if you belive in her do what you want my life do not change at all
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: Female Bodybuilding on January 27, 2011, 10:26:11 pm
wait wait wait i o not know what she wtite on her faceook page becouse she put me in igbnore list now but guys belive me she is totally crazy and she write me "if you tell anybody about what i did i will say taht i discoover you want to rape me and thats why i did not come" i have not intrest in tell that if you guys vbelive me beware of this girls if you belive in her do what you want my life do not change at all

calavera1975 we don't accuse you, we read many many session reviews here and already know many girls try to scum men, you're member here long enough and should know that you shouldn't send money a stranger.

I don't understand if Andrea Mirotoi thinks rape possibility why she accepts money and interested in meeting stranger men? If she travels around the world and meet stranger men for money I will not comment more
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: gordonlloyd on January 28, 2011, 12:22:50 am
wait wait wait i o not know what she wtite on her faceook page becouse she put me in igbnore list now but guys belive me she is totally crazy and she write me "if you tell anybody about what i did i will say taht i discoover you want to rape me and thats why i did not come" i have not intrest in tell that if you guys vbelive me beware of this girls if you belive in her do what you want my life do not change at all

Calavera --- wanted you to know that I wasnt saying you did what she said -- I just posted it so you KNEW what she was saying and there appeared to be a different version of the story.  I think she is trying to find a way to justify stealing from you but to be honest I have no idea what really happened here.  All I can say is that Female Bodybuilding is correct when he says dont send money to strangers !!!   
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: calavera1975 on January 28, 2011, 01:32:47 pm
i understand your point im sure you are not accusing me i cannto see what she write on her page becouse she put me in ignore list before do that and i dont care about my money annymor ei knwo they are lose i just will liek if nobody else will lose money with a person that must stay in jail and not on internet but sincr we know that will be very difficult to have any revenge on her all i can ask you is to tell everybody what she did specially to other FBB becouse there are a lot of them that are good person so you guys just make a voice to all teh other forum you are into i think will be motive to have krma too becouse is a very important thing


per quanto riguarda l'avvocato sinceramente me ne frego ho una splendida ragazza ora e non mi importa di avere a che fare con persone folli ma davvero spero che questa persona abbia cio' che si merita poi guarda dovresti vedere cosa ha scritto a me sugli italiani poi se vuoi magari in privato mandami un messaggio e ti mando copia della nostra conversazione su fb ciao a tutti
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: liftcarryfan on January 29, 2011, 12:14:25 am
DON"T BOOK LAYLA LANE
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: brambo19460 on January 29, 2011, 12:16:53 am
I second that last statement what a total waste of time and money
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: Muscluva on January 30, 2011, 12:27:46 am
DON"T BOOK LAYLA LANE

Perhaps you would like to expand a little on this statement, it would be more helpful
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: brambo19460 on January 30, 2011, 01:19:04 am
met her at her hotel it was supposed to be 9 AM and she finally called me in the lobby at 9:30. She had ordered breakfast and it arrived the same time that I did. She ate and ignored me while she played with text messaging for the next 20 minutes. The first words out of her mouth were I do not touch you and I do not go topless or anything at all. You can look but do not touch me anywhere.

Her cell phone then started to continuously ring and she kept answering it. After about 15 minutes I had had enough of absolutely nothing and git ready to leave. She seemed auite happy for me to leave and just demanded her payment in full. That was the end.

Over the years I have seen Brenda Raganot, Vilma Caez, Sondra Faas, Colette Guimond, Maria Calo, Fitness Power, Joanna Thomas, and severak others always to have a warm and friendly session with at least hand based assistance.

In addition she ain't all that good looking after she had all of that surgery. She seems very stuck-up I guess would be the word to use
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: liftcarryfan on January 30, 2011, 04:51:33 am
DON"T BOOK LAYLA LANE

Perhaps you would like to expand a little on this statement, it would be more helpful

SEARCH AROUND, you will know what i am talking about
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: HarleyKG on January 31, 2011, 03:46:14 am
My bads are Gabby (just a little odd), Gayle Moher (just didn't care, didn't prep) and Desiree Ellis (upsell during session).
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: bakgwaiblackghost on January 31, 2011, 03:20:41 pm
"My bads are Gabby (just a little odd)"
What was odd about her bud?
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: artax on January 31, 2011, 08:14:37 pm
I have seen too many bad reports on Collette G or Layla Lane to see either- of the ones I saw Nicole P was completely passive and uninteresting would not see again, Carmella was passive but OK, and I hesitate to put her on this list because I have to admit she is very nice but Allana Muscle at least when I saw her was way out of shape and not even close to what her pics look like- I understand that you aren't going to see them in contet condition all that often, but she wasn't close to being in any kind of shape
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: Duke69 on February 01, 2011, 03:22:23 pm
When I arrived for my session layla lane seemed very surprised that I was black.  We had discussed the session before meeting but when we met she ignored my attempts to do the session as we had planned.  She instead instructed me to take my cloths off and then fuck her in a number of different positions.  The sex was not very good for me  and she treated me  with contempt and called me her big mandingo.  Her body was not attractive to look at or touch and her face looked like that of an alien.  I did not like her and hope to never see her again.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: serpico1961 on February 14, 2011, 10:24:53 pm
There are  quite a few  that  won'r book a  black man and I don't  know  why except sheer  racism  since money is money
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: MesQuish on March 01, 2011, 10:05:54 am
I don't trust these women
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: santino corleone on March 02, 2011, 07:15:59 pm
Who is Gabby?  Gabrielle Nicandur?  Surprised that Nicole P wasn't into it. I had a ball with  her  years ago.  She even gave me a small break on the fee.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: dmk4646 on March 17, 2011, 02:08:42 pm
Luckily, the vast majority of my sessions were either good or great. Ironically, one of my few bad sessions was with Heather Fine
and Dr. Phil just posted about her. If I may comment, why did Dr. Phil see her a second time if the first was so bad ? That makes no sense IMO.

Happy St. Paddy's day to you all.
Thankfully someone spoke up about having a session and having your neck SORE FOR 3 DAYS. You guys are obviously younger than me; but
you have no idea what damage can be done to the C vertebraes  and discs in your neck. The arthritis (or worse) won't set in for a long time
afterwards. It's insane to let these gorillas cause this kind of damage to your body. I lifted for over 30 years. Nothing crazy in weight but
now I have a lower back fusion (L-4 L-5) and serious arthritis all through my neck which probably (according to some chiropractor) will put
me in one of those ugly neck thingys for live.
Be careful. Be very careful. It ain't like these broads give you an MRI upon leaving with your black eyes.
There are just a FEW things better to do with $500. "Go whack one off and read a book"
dmk46
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: badboy01 on May 30, 2011, 05:41:58 pm
Denise Hosher stood me up twice. Once after calling me the day before to verify that I would be there. I was warned that she had a habit of no shows. The worst session I ever had was Heather Tristany, aka Goddess Heather. She did no topless or nude, and very little touching. Her musclehead freak of a husband called the room twice to make sure she was ok. I left with her, I was going to dinner, so we rode down in the elevator together and when the door opened, her husband ran right over me to get to her. Definitely not recommended. Gayle Moher seemed bored the whole time.  Gabe Nicander was an air head, little touching nothing. All the time talked about what she wanted in a man. I saw Layla Layne back when she was Melissa Coates in CA. She was FS, but expensive and average at best. Trudy Ireland,  Kathy Conners, Debra D' Andrea, Christine Marshall, all would be recommended. I saw Collette Guimond twice and had a great time. Not going into details, but worth the time and money.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: jimmykimmel on May 31, 2011, 10:06:53 pm
Tazzie Colomb did not respect my need for discretion. She was running an hour late for my session due to a show appearance, so I had to cancel as I had time constraints. She did do a good job of communicating w/ me about her tardiness. Then, she proceeded to text me that night and the next day trying to rebook me (Fri/Sat).  Due to family obligations, I could not make it. Then, I received a PHONE CALL from her at 10pm on Sat night while watching a movie w/ family.  Very uncomfortable look from my significant other curious as to who in the hell was calling me late on a Sat night.

She was a pain to book as she will not book through email (phone only). Then, once she has your phone #, she exercises no discretion in using it. Very unprofessional. Be forewarned if you are in a sensitive situation, like me.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: carlvick on June 01, 2011, 06:29:39 pm
I had a similar experience
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: bicepboy on June 03, 2011, 02:28:00 am
Yeah -- Lack of discretion would be the worst thing a gal could do -- much worse than wasting a person's time and money. Someone used to call every time she was in town -- can't remember who that was, but I was glad when it stopped. As for the money-wasters, Gayle is at the top of the list. Doesn't even pretend to be enjoying it. Colette just talks too darn much, considering the meter's running.  Unlike others who have high praise, I also was disappointed in Storm, who didn't deliver anything like the session I had asked for (I wanted something sensual and what I got was as far from that as is possible with two people in the same room).
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: mercmush on June 04, 2011, 05:12:32 pm
I love this thread ! My worst session experiences were in no particular order: Nicole P the big German lady, absolutely stank of cigarettes, I could smell the smoke even before I knocked on the hotel door but I was too decent to turn around and go home, what a naive fool I was ! Dreadful session with my once faithful member completely asleep !! Lauren Powers : a total fraud, horrible boob job and she had the audacity to eat her evening meal whilst I was in the room, completely useless and unattractive in the flesh.  Heather Fine : nasty woman , nasty personality, nasty body, nasty everything and expensive to boot ! Joanna Thomas : bad skin, brash personality and she rang her folks at the beginning of the session, I should have bolted from the room whilst I had the chance... Mistress Xena : a dominatrix type operating out of Harrow On The Hill near London : full of herself, wouldn't allow any real contact, yapped boring rubbish in my ear and was a smoker. Horrible and deluded about herself. I feel better now. ;D
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: walras on June 13, 2011, 12:52:02 pm
Lots of useful intelligence guys, many thanks. It's obvious that YMMV (I had a great time with Joanna Thomas and with Storm, Gayle was a bit passive but ok) but my most disappointing experiences as follows:
- Goddess Mercedes: poor conditioning, uninterested in the session and made me feel bad about myself
- Tatiana Butler: looked great but utterly bored, in fact she even yawned. Gave me such a rough HJ, she broke the skin. Oh and paid for an hour but got 25mins.
- Colette: moaned for an hour, iffy performance.
- Felix: didn't click at all, made me feel like a perv!
- Nicole P: quite passive, not xxx at all, felt like false advertising
It's taken me a while to learn that it's wise to be very specific about limits so expectations are managed (e.g. Brigy HJ only but amazing) and to be clear about what really matters to you. Nonetheless there's no legislating for just not clicking with someone.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: butterman on June 14, 2011, 08:48:50 pm
I have sessioned with Sondra Faas, Treasure, Jana and Helen Von Mott who were all great. my only poor session was with Colette Guimond.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: DoTheDammThing on June 15, 2011, 02:22:22 am
I see a trend of complaints for wrestlers like Collete and Heather P.
How do you all even find them attractive in the first place?
I can't even stand watching their vids for free on here.
To each his own huh..
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: Jonas on June 15, 2011, 02:31:31 am
I see a trend of complaints for wrestlers like Collete and Heather P.
How do you all even find them attractive in the first place?
I can't even stand watching their vids for free on here.
To each his own huh..

You're confusing Nicole P with Heather P. If Heather Policky was actively doing sessions, this board would explode.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: DoTheDammThing on June 15, 2011, 02:52:26 am
Thanks for the catch. I meant Nicole P.
Ms Policky is of course in a league of her own.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: realun on June 18, 2011, 12:11:13 am
Bad experiences...
moher - despite my great looks and charming personality, she seemed like she did not want to be there and she was booking sessions  bak2bak so the time was cut short
Fabi - no show, no call or email in advance - that is not polite!
Gahan - she cancelled allegedly due to partying too much the night before - at least she emailed before the drive
Melissa Coates - talkative & weird
Christine Rocks Fetzer - seemed out of her mind and passive
Honey Kawaii - disintersted & rude
Tara Titanium - out of shape and boring
tatianna butler - wanted to sleep the whole session

mediocre @ best
Tazz - over an hour late, then cut session short - but she is hot
Lauren Powers - pleasant but boring session
Lizzy B. - pleasant but boring session
Bunny G - pleasant but boring session

Great sessions!
Christine Marshall
Amber DeLuca
Tami Frazier
Jasmin Johnson
Gabrielle Hames
Kat Connors
Sandy Bouwman
Cynthia of Chicago
Karla Nelsen
Isabelle big&strong
Anita Ramsey
Sondra Faas
DeLyte DeLaCruz
Jennifer Kennedy

Want to see
Ms. Melissa
Flame
Jana
Brigita
Severa







Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: cjones on June 19, 2011, 01:08:57 pm
LAUREN POWERS is the worst i have ever sessioned with by far never again
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: 24mass on June 19, 2011, 04:02:24 pm
lauren Powers is the worst........a sham...stay away...
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: raraparu on June 19, 2011, 09:52:26 pm
Totally agree, Lauren Powers was a clock watching, moneygrubbing with a bad attitude and a atrocious boobjob.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: Pinme on August 13, 2011, 10:35:18 am
I have enjoyed many sessions over about 15 years including about 200 girls on the wb270 list.  I have truly lived my fantasy.  I thought it would be helpful for others to list the three girls who have ripped me off:  Figure Power, Lady Hurricane, and Layla Lane.  They all took deposits and then flaked out.  With so many great girls out there, my simple advice is avoid these three.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: Roland B on August 13, 2011, 12:03:39 pm
i must also chime in on lauren powers being the worst ever.  plus, she looks like a horse. she used to have muscles, although never legs.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: Sammy on August 13, 2011, 09:05:07 pm
Figure Power actually charged me $200 instead of $300 because I was with her a little less than an hour.  Thought that was considerate on her part.  She didn't have to do that.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: willhill on August 15, 2011, 01:40:20 pm
Shawn tan for me. I paid fir session in advance, she cancelled due to car accident (understandable) but despite numerous emails has never responded for rebook
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: hannomag on August 16, 2011, 06:13:33 pm
The only session I ever had was with Maryse Manios around 2002. It was a pleasurable experience as far as her appearance is concerned. Maryse was sensitive in making conversation ("warm up")  ;D and she got very enthusiastic and engaged when it came to the part where she let me worship her muscles. I didn´t get as exited as I expected, though, the situation felt to weird for me, a feeling I didn´t manage to fight for the whole session time. So I never again felt the urge or need to book a session with any fbb.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: richvan on August 30, 2011, 03:54:13 am
I'm afraid I had a similar experience with Shawn Tan.  No show for our session and despite several requests ...never returned my deposit...
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: gatorvin on September 03, 2011, 06:43:02 pm
I don't wanna be a complainer as the VAST majority of sessions I have had have been amazing or I wouldn't go back for more! BUT special mentions go to Tatianna Butler, a total pain. Soooo sexy, but off hand, complained that I wasn't doing MY bit, while she laid down waiting for a massage! Late and demanded a tip. Had a terrible experience with Collette Guimond. She spent most of the session on the phone, didn't do anything of note at all, most of the time I just sat around waiting for her. She did redeem herself in another session (no idea why I bothered, but way glad I did in the end), but even then she was a nightmare to get hold of after an original no show. Marika Johansson was on me, and off me in about 25 minutes but charged a handsome hour for the priveledge. Lauren Powers, off-hand to say the least, felt like I had been shaken down afterwards. In, cash, jiggle, get dressed, out. Reckon 20 minutes tops. Ms Melissa gives you a terrible run-around, but if you do track her down you will be very very happy afterwards. There is a big 'if'; involved there. Having said all of that . . . there are sooo many good ones that these gripes tell me to just not see them again and stick with the superstars!!
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: lix4fbbs on September 04, 2011, 02:12:30 am
Is it just me, or does Tatiana Butler remind other people of Serena Williams if she ditched the tennis and stuck to the weights full-time? Attitude included.
Fortunately, I've read enough about her distant/expectant behavior to avoiding going anywhere near her zip code for sessions. Makes me second guess why I was curious about her to begin with. Then I see those visions of the before time -- that brief, glorious moment in the early part of last decade -- when she was the supreme ebony she-hunk of model-icious muscle.
It's only my mere speculation, but she seems like the typical wannabe starlet who had her dreams dashed of parlaying her signature looks and picturesque physique into more mainstream popularity (read: Dayana Cadeau),  and wasn't nearly as elevated in actuality as she in her own mind expected she should be.
Then again, Joe Rogan sure loved her ass on Fear Factor!
Of course, this is only my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: john.nik on September 06, 2011, 03:57:40 pm

- Goddess Mercedes: poor conditioning, uninterested in the session and made me feel bad about myself

- Felix: didn't click at all, made me feel like a perv!


Can you explain more of this that you said? I'm curious... I'm afraid too to feel like a perv

Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: walras on September 07, 2011, 10:01:17 am

- Goddess Mercedes: poor conditioning, uninterested in the session and made me feel bad about myself

- Felix: didn't click at all, made me feel like a perv!


Can you explain more of this that you said? I'm curious... I'm afraid too to feel like a perv



I'm comfortable in my own skin, enjoy my muscle fetish and have had 30+ muscle/fitness sessions and scores of regular punts.

On these two occasions, the girls not only didn't put me at ease but made me uncomfortable about what I was there for - which after all, were services they advertised.

Felix was relatively new to sessions at the time and she over-promised in terms of the services she offered. In reality she was only comfortable with wrestling holds, and she seemed to find muscle worship (kissing her shoulders I hasten to add) weird and repulsive.

As for Mercedes, her poor physical condition meant that she couldn't provide a physical session - all she was interested in was choking me, which I'm not too keen on. However, she also wasn't sensual or dominant - so there wasn't much to do in the session. The HJ finale was very grudging and she wasn't into it at all.

So to answer your question - in both cases I was made to feel uncomfortable, but I certainly don't feel like a perv! I have a fantasy that can be enjoyed with skilled providers who create a wonderful experience. There are plenty of wonderful women out there (discussed on this board) who really deliver and make you feel great.


Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: john.nik on September 07, 2011, 02:02:34 pm
Thanks for the post walras.
I have a question: all wb270 girls conclude the session with an HJ?
Can i make a personal video of the session or the girls dont want ?
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: MrSteed on September 08, 2011, 07:35:41 pm
Thanks for the post walras.
I have a question: all wb270 girls conclude the session with an HJ?
Can i make a personal video of the session or the girls dont want ?

Absolutely not. Some of the ladies listed are strictly wrestling or muscle posing. Some are into sensual and escort services. Some are fine with nudity, some are not. Some allow videos, some charge extra. It all depends on the person.

If you're looking for info on escort services, you might want to check out The Erotic Review. You can specify body types like muscular or athletic, although you'll gag at some of the escorts classified in those body types.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: DoTheDammThing on September 08, 2011, 09:11:59 pm

Absolutely not. Some of the ladies listed are strictly wrestling or muscle posing. Some are into sensual and escort services. Some are fine with nudity, some are not. Some allow videos, some charge extra. It all depends on the person.

If you're looking for info on escort services, you might want to check out The Erotic Review. You can specify body types like muscular or athletic, although you'll gag at some of the escorts classified in those body types.


Mr Steed, do you personally have experience using The Erotic Review?

Can you make any recommendation for fbb's... around NYC if possible.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: artax on September 09, 2011, 01:40:12 pm
Mr. Steed makes a good point a lot of the providers listed on The Erotic Review are not really muscular but just big-  on the other hand if you weed through it, you willl find reviews for Jana, Kat Connors, Nadia M, Debra D"Andrea, Chyna Smith, Ginorma Butler, Lauren Powers, Rhonda Quaresma, Nicole P., Maryse Manios- unfortunately a lot of the details of the seesion you can only get by being VIP which you can get by either paying or submitting reviews
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: Warhawk Overdrive on September 11, 2011, 03:14:14 am
Mr. Steed makes a good point a lot of the providers listed on The Erotic Review are not really muscular but just big-  on the other hand if you weed through it, you willl find reviews for Jana, Kat Connors, Nadia M, Debra D"Andrea, Chyna Smith, Ginorma Butler, Lauren Powers, Rhonda Quaresma, Nicole P., Maryse Manios- unfortunately a lot of the details of the seesion you can only get by being VIP which you can get by either paying or submitting reviews

My general observation is that if the lady is under 25 maybe 23, that is a tip off that she is not muscular
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: MrSteed on September 12, 2011, 01:49:34 am

Mr Steed, do you personally have experience using The Erotic Review?

Can you make any recommendation for fbb's... around NYC if possible.


Sure, I've used The Erotic Review. You occasionally can find someone you weren't aware of. One was a bodybuilder named Eva from Florida about 10 years ago,  who gave me one of my alltime favorite sessions.

For ladies you do know about, sometimes you find out either what they will do or what their limits are.  I'm not a VIP member, so I can only see the short intros in each review, but you can get info if photos are old and whether guys that see her generally have good or bad experiences.

As far as NYC recommendations, I'm not your best source. I don't live there and while I like sensual sessions, I've never sought FS in a session and some of my sessions have been strictly PG-rated. I've had sessions where we've just arm wrestled and I've taken pictures of the lady flexing. Sondra Faas was probably my favorite sensual session with a fbb based in the NY area, but that's going back a few years. 
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: larky368 on September 12, 2011, 05:57:39 am
This is my first post. I don't know why I haven't found this site earlier as I have been doing sessions now for 3 years. This is a great topic and very helpful but at the same time I'm almost glad that I hadn't read all these reviews because I have seen many of the women mentioned and I think for the most part I would prefer to find out for myself.

There seems to be quite a few consistent bad reviews of Melissa Coates and I wholeheartedly agree. I wonder if she ever gets a repeat client. When I saw her she was all flustered cause the airline lost some of her luggage. I think our sesson lasted 20 minutes and the only high point was that she allowed me to give her oral. Colette talked through most of our first session. I saw her a second time just because she is so huge but I promised myself that I wouldn't let her gab the session away. She was still very talkative (and quite negative about judges and other competitors) but I kept my eyes on the prize and was rewarded with a full-service session so you can see why I'm on the fence about reading these bad reviews. I think that bodybuilders tend to be more varying on services than escorts and it often dependis on their mood and the chemistry with the client and also their level of horniness. I have received full-service from a number of ladies who I don't believe offer it as a general rule. There's never a guarantee but if you remember that first and foremost they are ladies and you treat them with respect and admiration you will often get better service in return.

Another point I would like to make is that every woman I have met has provided me with a happy ending and I'm taling about around 30 women so I would have to assume that it is standard for every paying client.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: MrSteed on September 12, 2011, 12:28:12 pm
Welcome to the Show, Larky. You made up for lost time with a nice string of posts.  :)
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: uniqlos on October 08, 2011, 06:13:51 pm
Oh I wish I knew beforehand. Got ripped off a few times and stopped seeing these sessions. First Colette Guimond was she my fave fbb until I sessioned with her.Talks too much yes about losing her hair on her
head plus she was out of shape fat and had razor stubble. Couldn't get my member up at all. This was recent and paid $500.

Yvette Bova was unattractive in person and had a chipped tooth in front teeth.  She aims too please but
no fs since she's a pornstar but no wrestling.

Debra D' Andrea had unnecessary hair over her body with bad hygiene a turn off.

There are others.






Debra D' Andrea had uncessary hair over her body. Bad hygiene a turnoff.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: Athletic on October 10, 2011, 08:51:20 pm
Had so far only had one bad session experience and rip off.

Ms Melissa. Showed up 20 minutes late, was on the phone another 10 minutes and still charged me for one hour.
-Looked nothing like her picture and seemed unprepared for the session(badly dressed etc).

Never again and I would highly recommend to stay away. There are also number of reports of people who have made her deposits and the seen nothing of her. Just search the board.

Luckily this is my only bad experience, otherwise I am impressed with the professionallyty of the ladies I have met.

Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: grimmss on October 22, 2011, 01:50:15 am
anyone deal with flame dragan  out of toronto? I was ripped off for my deposit. I learned a lesson, moving on
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: jthomas11 on December 27, 2011, 04:09:55 pm
I met Onyx and what a waste.  I should have know she would be bad from her poor grammar and short answers.  First the day of our session I should up and she never answered the door. . She over slept.  Like a dummy I rescheduled.  It was at a small motel and her brother in law was there. He didn't leave the room or even wait in the bathroom.  he sat on the bed watching tv. Just imagaine how awkward and fun that session was.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: jthomas11 on December 28, 2011, 05:09:52 pm
what kind of bad hygeine did Debra have?
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: kholloways on February 24, 2012, 12:59:04 am
I know this sounds like ancient history but I did a lot of sessions in my time.  Tina Lockwood, although massive and strong as an ox, was a huge disappointment.  Not only was she 2 hours late for our appointment but she did not stop talking the entire time (which really cut into my enjoyment).  She was obviously very nervous although I know this was far from her first session.  On the positive side, her arms and calves (especially her calves) were amazing.  18" biceps back in those days was unheard of.  Plus, she wasn't a clock watcher and did an extended session for no additional fee.

Just curious. What exactly did Tina talk about during your session? I guess I like to know something about their personalities.

And, what did she wear?
Title: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: Jizzy on May 15, 2012, 09:03:46 am
Let's Separate The Facts From The Myths About Layla Layne:

1. NOT ONLY Would Layla Layne NEVER DO FS Or Anything Else Of THAT Nature, The Fact That She Won't Really Do Much Of  Even The "Basic" Things She Advertises On Her "LL" Site, Has ALWAYS Been MORE The Problem.

2. Depending On Her Mood, She's Can Act As Disgusted With Herself As She Is With Her Clients For What She's Doing, Which Obviously Wouldn't  Make For The Most Fun Sessions:

3. FAR From Being Stuck-Up, She Can Be TOO Friendly & Talkative, Revealing WAY Too Much Info About The Drama In Her Life, & Her Cell-Phone Is Practically GLUED To Her Hand!! But These Traits Seem To Be As Endearing To Certain Clients Who Prefer A More "Humanized-Goddess",  As They Are Annoying To Others, Who Simply Want A Session Without The "Baggage".

4. She Actually Has A Preference For Black Men.

5. Has A Established List Of Loyal Clientele On The East Coast That Gives Her Steady Business.

6. Her Insecurities,Time, Plastic Surgery, Botox Injections, & Lip-Filler NOW Make Her Look Like A Completely Different Person, If Still Attractive; But DEFINITELY 180 Degrees From The Naturally Sexy FBB She Used To Look Like.

7. As Of 2012, It Looks Like She Has Taken Down Her "L.L." Site, & Has Started Doing Custom-Wrestling Matches In The Atlanta Area Where She Lives, As Her Indy Wrestling Career Momentum Has Picked-Up.

Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: truthserum on June 13, 2012, 06:32:43 pm
Sad but I got the session, paid the $400 and there was a part of me that would have paid another $100 for it to end early.  That was a dream turned to nightmare for me.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: nujerz84 on June 13, 2012, 10:08:13 pm
Layla Lane was the session I did total clock watcher and lots of woah is me type shit.

Sad cause she looked good.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: larky368 on June 14, 2012, 05:52:19 am
Lyneah Muscles.  Total upsell. I think she even charged me $25 to use the closet to hang up my jacket. A bit of an exagerration but not much.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: Quattro on June 14, 2012, 06:16:41 am
I think you are wrong about your Fact No. 1.  I think those activities are exactly what her sessions are about.  Many years ago, I'm almost positive that I read escort reviews about her on theeroticreview.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: Jonas on June 14, 2012, 12:19:37 pm
I think you are wrong about your Fact No. 1.  I think those activities are exactly what her sessions are about.  Many years ago, I'm almost positive that I read escort reviews about her on theeroticreview.

If she wasn't FS, I don't think she'd have the few clients she does have.  But I've always been under the impression that she was FS and a terrible provider.

Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: artax on June 14, 2012, 02:16:38 pm
reading reviews from these boards and elsewhere for years- there have been a couple of session providers that have consistently gotten poor reviews- though I have never seen her Layla Lane has to be in the top 3
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: badboy01 on June 14, 2012, 03:03:27 pm
I saw Layla Lane back when she was Melissa Coates and she WAS fs. Expensive and average at best.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: Warhawk Overdrive on June 14, 2012, 04:05:54 pm
I saw Layla Lane back when she was Melissa Coates and she WAS fs. Expensive and average at best.

I saw her back when she was still using her real name too and was not offered FS. But she never gave any hint that she offered so no loss. Also she did them for a while before she did the name change so maybe I saw her before or after she offered. If I remember correctly, she was one of the more restrictive women that I have seen. Also, she is one of the women who you might not want to see b/c there are other women who offer more for less. (Depending on what you are looking for)

Does anyone know what she is charging now-a-days??
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: goose on June 15, 2012, 02:35:40 am
I saw Layla Lane back when she was Melissa Coates and she WAS fs. Expensive and average at best.

I saw her back when she was still using her real name too and was not offered FS. But she never gave any hint that she offered so no loss. Also she did them for a while before she did the name change so maybe I saw her before or after she offered. If I remember correctly, she was one of the more restrictive women that I have seen. Also, she is one of the women who you might not want to see b/c there are other women who offer more for less. (Depending on what you are looking for)

Does anyone know what she is charging now-a-days??


Yep, back then she did but the price was ridicules.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: lee3333 on June 15, 2012, 06:55:36 pm
I love this board.  This is my first post.  Been doing this along time.  Have to chime in

Great sessions
amber d
kathy amazon
christine m
kasie c
Helen van mott
Inga olsen

bad sessions
lauren p-  thinks shes all that
gayle moher- doesnt want to be there

Want to see Savanna from atlanta and jen thomas and orlandoe I will think of more

Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: drukky on June 15, 2012, 08:05:48 pm
A few of my experiences.


First some good ones with really professional session providers
who are all still successfully working in the business:


Kasie Cavanaugh

Jana Linke-Sippl

Mistress Treasure

Rita Sargo

Lethal Veronica

Brigita Brezovac

Amber DeLuca

Madam Mysteria

Julie Bourassa

René Campbell


And then there are these "ladies" you better AVOID AT ANY COST:


Tatianna Butler

Carmella Cureton

Irene Andersen

Maria Calo

Colette Guimond

Nicole Savage



Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: gatorvin on June 16, 2012, 05:38:25 pm
why irene andersen? just curious?
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: drukky on June 16, 2012, 10:29:02 pm
why irene andersen? just curious?

Get your activity bar up to 100% and your karma too then I may consider telling you.

No freebies for lurkers.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: Jonas on June 17, 2012, 06:44:19 am
And then there are these "ladies" you better AVOID AT ANY COST:

Maria Calo

Colette Guimond


Is your avoid recommendation a looks/side-effects issue?  Because if you've done all that sessioning, you should be experienced enough to have had good sessions with these 2 FBBs.

Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: charliepanayi on June 17, 2012, 09:18:57 am
why irene andersen? just curious?

Get your activity bar up to 100% and your karma too then I may consider telling you.

No freebies for lurkers.

How arrogant. They were just asking, why be so rude just because they don't have loads of posts and haven't uploaded lots of pics.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: gatorvin on June 17, 2012, 05:32:26 pm
don't worry charlie old boy. i have sessioned with her very recently so was genuinely . . . just curious. because of course this whole site isn't about sharing and freebies is it? oh . . . wait a minute . . .
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: Tiberius on June 18, 2012, 04:09:05 pm
A few of my experiences.


First some good ones with really professional session providers
who are all still successfully working in the business:




Nicole Savage

Why Nicole? I dont think its effective to write off one Lady because of a bad review. She could have had a long day and you were the 6th client, or she had a difficult client before, or just a down day. Now if a girl consistently gets Good/bad reviews thats different.

I am still curious, on why you listed Nicole.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: drukky on June 18, 2012, 06:51:58 pm
A few of my experiences.


First some good ones with really professional session providers
who are all still successfully working in the business:




Nicole Savage

Why Nicole? I dont think its effective to write off one Lady because of a bad review. She could have had a long day and you were the 6th client, or she had a difficult client before, or just a down day. Now if a girl consistently gets Good/bad reviews thats different.

I am still curious, on why you listed Nicole.


For starters she stinks like an old ash tray.

She doesn´t know any wrestling holds at all
and is the worst mixed wrestler I have ever met.

Her muscles seem to be filled with air.

There is absolutely no strength in them

She is one of those annoying lesbo-man-haters who´d rather do anything else
than being with you during a session.

No personality at all. Dull and boring.

I could go on and on but I think that´s enough for now.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: drukky on June 18, 2012, 07:38:31 pm
why irene andersen? just curious?

Okay, lurker I´ll tell you.

She really does not like men who are into muscular women
let alone mixed wrestling or doing sessions.

And she does let you feel that during a session.

From the first e-mail contact to setting up the session and then to the
session itself you notice she does not have any interest in
her client or the session world at all.

It´s just and only about the money and her performance during the session
is as lousy and boring as it can get.

And furthermore she doesn´t look that good when you meet her personally.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: drukky on June 18, 2012, 07:44:14 pm
And then there are these "ladies" you better AVOID AT ANY COST:

Maria Calo

Colette Guimond


Is your avoid recommendation a looks/side-effects issue?  Because if you've done all that sessioning, you should be experienced enough to have had good sessions with these 2 FBBs.


Have you ever done a session in your life or are you just plain stupid?


Okay now to the facts.

Maria Calo has had some rough times and she is a total mess.

Don´t know if she takes hard drugs or what´s up but
she is the kind of person you do not want to be
around with until she cleans up her act.


Colette clearly has overdone it with her steroids which seem to have gone to her brain or what´s left of it.

She talks total bullshit the whole time during the session
without any pause.

She gets on your nerves just about after five minutes.

You really can´t stand her the whole hour.

Like a total crazy person.

Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: Jonas on June 18, 2012, 08:57:03 pm

You've been on here long enough to know that I'm no rookie to sessions.  I asked that because I had a great session with Colette, and I know I'm not the only one.  It seems the difference between those who had fun and those who didn't are how they were able to handle her talking - with the more seemingly experienced sessioners not having a problem dealing with it.  I didnt have any trouble with the talking and she shut up whenever I started worshipping her muscles.  If I had any objections, it was the side effects - which were pretty bad, but no objections to the session itself.

Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: lovethestuff on June 18, 2012, 11:41:20 pm
the side effects???
you had side effects? she had side effects?
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: nujerz84 on June 18, 2012, 11:43:40 pm
IMO anyone looking to see Collette Guimond in 2012 is retarded. 
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: uptomyleftnut on June 19, 2012, 12:07:47 am
geezus  some of the random drive-by vitriol is    just getting so tired   
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: Jonas on June 19, 2012, 12:11:00 am
the side effects???
you had side effects? she had side effects?

She had side effects from long-time usage.  And people who see Colette these days are probably (like me) fans of hers from the '90s that wanted to check her off on their list.  Like I said, I had none of the problems that many people describe.  She talked a lot, but she didn't impede the session one bit.  The only time she talked was when I was resting/recovering, and I didn't get shortchanged on time or service.

Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: nujerz84 on June 19, 2012, 12:15:20 am
the side effects???
you had side effects? she had side effects?

She had side effects from long-time usage.  And people who see Colette these days are probably (like me) fans of hers from the '90s that wanted to check her off on their list.  Like I said, I had none of the problems that many people describe.  She talked a lot, but she didn't impede the session one bit.  The only time she talked was when I was resting/recovering, and I didn't get shortchanged on time or service.

I understand I would have love to see her back in the late 90's but within the past 5 or so years no way side effects are too much. She was hot as fuck then now not at all imo.  The fact that she is older and the other factors Im not surprised to see someone naming her as a not so great session.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: Jonas on June 19, 2012, 02:05:05 am
The fact that she is older and the other factors Im not surprised to see someone naming her as a not so great session.

It's fair to not enjoy the session as much because she doesn't look as good as you thought, but calling her a rip-off just because they're dissatisfied with the woman's looks is kind of bullshit.  (Especially in Colette's case as there's so much video and photos of her out there.) Colette looks the way she looks, and can't control that (well, not now anyways).  The only thing she can control is how good of a session she gives, and if she gives a good effort in the session, she shouldn't be classified as a rip-off.  That's for lazy women who half-ass their way through a session and/or shortchange you on time or effort.

Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: drukky on June 19, 2012, 11:49:33 am
You've been on here long enough to know that I'm no rookie to sessions.  I asked that because I had a great session with Colette, and I know I'm not the only one.  It seems the difference between those who had fun and those who didn't are how they were able to handle her talking - with the more seemingly experienced sessioners not having a problem dealing with it.  I didnt have any trouble with the talking and she shut up whenever I started worshipping her muscles.  If I had any objections, it was the side effects - which were pretty bad, but no objections to the session itself.

I know shit about you.

Never heard about you.

Nor do I want to hear or know anything about you.

The only thing you contribute to this board is your stupid bullshit talk nobody cares about.

Get a life.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: Jonas on June 19, 2012, 11:55:02 am

Blah, blah, blah.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: drukky on June 19, 2012, 04:40:29 pm
Blah, blah, blah.

Yeah that´s about the only thing you bring to this board: blah, blah, blah

Luckily they got the ignore function for boring bullshitters like you here.

Puff - and you just disappear...
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: gibbster on June 19, 2012, 07:26:43 pm
Drukky - you just need to calm down a bit and treat other members with a bit of respect. Hero Member - not setting much of an example are you?
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: Jonas on June 19, 2012, 07:28:12 pm
Blah, blah, blah.

Yeah that´s about the only thing you bring to this board: blah, blah, blah

Luckily they got the ignore function for boring bullshitters like you here.

Puff - and you just disappear...

Oh no.  Whatever shall I do?   ::)
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: drukky on June 19, 2012, 07:44:29 pm
Drukky - you just need to calm down a bit and treat other members with a bit of respect. Hero Member - not setting much of an example are you?

Oh boy, I love the ignore button

Puff - and you disappear as well...
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: grjagrja on June 19, 2012, 08:51:46 pm
Julie winchester no showed on me. No email no call nothing. I see she is back doing sessions now. Plus she is just not that good a wrestler from the vid or two ive seen of her so if i lost a lil on the deposit no big thing really
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: drukky on June 19, 2012, 09:21:46 pm

Thank you very much and Karma +++, grjagrja  :clap:

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Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: Cradi on June 20, 2012, 04:33:17 pm
Yeah Drukky, it's a good thing to run away after offend people.

You just forget YOU was a lurker at your debuts, like everyone.
The fact you have lot of karma points doesn't mean you are over anybody.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: drukky on June 20, 2012, 05:03:05 pm
Yeah Drukky, it's a good thing to run away after offend people.

You just forget YOU was a lurker at your debuts, like everyone.
The fact you have lot of karma points doesn't mean you are over anybody.


Most of the guys on this forum are A-Okay.

There are just a few crazies like yourself I choose not to waste time with.

That´s why there is the ignore button - especially for the likes of you.

Good bye and good riddance
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: Cradi on June 20, 2012, 07:27:48 pm
Someone ask something to you. You speak to him like a shit. Maybe in your world it's normal, but IRL not.

And you don't know me. So you can't know what kind of person I am.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: gatorvin on June 21, 2012, 03:49:20 pm
Back to the point maybe now? I sessioned with Irene Andersen and found her quite the charmer really. A bit shy overall, which is not a crime, in fact a little challenge to get her going seemed to do the trick. As for her looks? Well she is huge for sure, a proper beefcake. Pretty? Not so sure you can be mid-40s long time huge fbb and still maintain a pretty look. But not bad! The session was very sensual and left me smiling, and she does talk the talk during it as well. Collette I had a horrible session with, then a better one, but the room was virtually dark so maybe that helped re her looks. It was a few years ago now so possibly things have got a lot more 'extreme'. There are just other big girls who are just less hard work.

Bad sessions seem to come in a few categories:

1. Horrific organisation/no communication/too much pointless communication - Ms Melissa (but an awesome session in the end!)
2. Bored fbb/awkward silences/boring fbb - Gayle Moher
3. No action/no satisfaction for the money - Lauren Powers
4. Fbb appearing 'not as advertised' - Mercedes
5. No show/deposit stealer - thankfully yet to experience

Some of these can be our fault, some theirs, some just one of those things. Obvious to me is that everyone's MMV but if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it is a duck. So the fbbs that appear on these boards often for any or all of the above reasons then buyer beware, you've only yourself to blame. After all, the good ones are so great we should build statues of them in recognition of their fine fine work. And an honorable mention to Tatianna Butler . . . worst session ever . ..
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: dumas on June 22, 2012, 01:20:34 am
I have met with Ginger. In Houston, She mentioned her boyfriend, but It was still a very enjyable session. I would see her agian. I neveer saw him, It was at a session house and I felt we were alone at least,,
Stan
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: nujerz84 on June 22, 2012, 03:05:03 am
I have met with Ginger. In Houston, She mentioned her boyfriend, but It was still a very enjyable session. I would see her agian. I neveer saw him, It was at a session house and I felt we were alone at least,,
Stan

I only seen her once she told after the session that she does travel with her BF but he was down in the lobby...I had no idea but it was a great awesome session she fucking hot.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: tonyjungle on June 22, 2012, 03:27:20 am
Two comments: I don't understand a BF around for a session. Another is that Gayle Moher gets very good and mixed reviews. Saw her in May and June - tremendous!
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: gatorvin on June 22, 2012, 05:24:39 pm
Gayle Moher - we are both brits so maybe a little too real to be fantasy. I take your point though
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: drukky on June 24, 2012, 08:17:45 pm
Have you ever been the victim of the deposit scam?

A fraudulent session wrestler who doesn´t show up
and also doesn´t return your deposit?

Would you like to warn others about someone who conned you?

Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: nujerz84 on June 24, 2012, 10:24:10 pm
Well I did get my money back but that was only after I made a comment on her yahoo page... she came back apologizing but also angry thinking I was badmouthing her.. Funny thing is I seen her before and saw her after It was a one time thing  so perhaps it was a mistake but IDK..

It was Gia Primo not a FBB but still hot funny session wrestler.  Havent had any issues with deposits since.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: nujerz84 on June 24, 2012, 10:26:16 pm
Well I did get my money back but that was only after I made a comment on her yahoo page... she came back apologizing but also angry thinking I was badmouthing her.. Funny thing is I seen her before and saw her after It was a one time thing  so perhaps it was a mistake but IDK..

It was Gia Primo not a FBB but still hot funny session wrestler.  Havent had any issues with deposits since.

I meant hot Fun session wrestler...
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: Morris on September 28, 2012, 11:29:23 am
Tatianna Butler, took a deposit from me to travel to London and never showed up. When I next traveled to New York I wanted to arrange a session and she asked me to pay for the session. She said that the deposit for the London trip was to help her with her financial issues, so if we were to have a session she would need to be paid. She has never tried to repay me or give me a session for the payment I made.

I will never advance money again to these ladies.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: wujekcity on September 28, 2012, 11:56:18 am
I'm pretty sure Ginger is married ...its a common technique for these women to tell u they have someone staying with them for protection...I'm guessing u put off a bad vibe....I've traveled with Megan over the past year and I know she has told her clients that I was there...and there has only been one time where I actually needed to throw someone out :-) ...the amount of money these women make....I'm surprised more don't travel with security
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: 8spaces on September 28, 2012, 03:55:51 pm
Wejuk stop telling lies iv seen Ur creepy pic and the only way you couldv thrown someone out is showing them your threads on this site and making them die from laughter...psychopath
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: Polite Society on September 29, 2012, 12:07:31 am
  I think Wujek benefits from the old saying "Keep your friends close but your enemies closer"
     
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: silkrk90ma on February 21, 2013, 12:43:57 am
I heard Layla Lane's real name is Michelle Anderson, I had a session with her; she was awesome!
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: BeatMeUp on February 21, 2013, 03:49:30 am
I heard Layla Lane's real name is Michelle Anderson, I had a session with her; she was awesome!
:hellno: and  :hellno:
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: enoch on February 22, 2013, 06:35:44 pm
Let's see:  experienced posters are pretty much unanimous that Layla Lane sessions are horrible.  Silkrk90ma comes out of nowhere (first post) to say she is good but gives no specifics whatsoever.  Plus he doesn't even know who she is, as BeatMeUp hilariously points out. 

So, Silkrk90ma, if you are legitimate, you're going to have to do better than that with details to convince us Layla is worth seeing.  Otherwise, I'll assume that you are either Layla herself or a friend who promised to write something on her behalf. 
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: silkrk90ma on February 26, 2013, 06:00:57 am
Let's see:  experienced posters are pretty much unanimous that Layla Lane sessions are horrible.  Silkrk90ma comes out of nowhere (first post) to say she is good but gives no specifics whatsoever.  Plus he doesn't even know who she is, as BeatMeUp hilariously points out. 

So, Silkrk90ma, if you are legitimate, you're going to have to do better than that with details to convince us Layla is worth seeing.  Otherwise, I'll assume that you are either Layla herself or a friend who promised to write something on her behalf.

A friend? I wish she would give me the time of day without charging me for it!!  I don't have many posts just yet as I have just started posting on this forum rather than just reading.

Ok, so here is my review: she still has a great build, long platinum hair and a sexy tan. She's has strong energy and I'm a rather small guy, so I was really turned on. The session lasted almost an hour but I didn't get sex offers like others are claiming, that's why I thought they were referring to someone else. She did check her phone a lot, but I know she has a lot of clients, so that was expected.
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: hamoudi on March 23, 2013, 08:47:28 pm
that is the best topic ever in this forum
if it posible to make it fixed to be on the  top always ?
Title: Have you ever been the victim of the deposit scam?
Post by: Chainer★ on May 01, 2022, 10:28:41 pm
Have you ever been the victim of the deposit scam?

A fraudulent session wrestler who doesn´t show up
and also doesn´t return your deposit?

Would you like to warn others about someone who conned you?
Title: Re: Have you ever been the victim of the deposit scam?
Post by: michaelg1978 on May 03, 2022, 09:27:58 am
Why does this sound like the beginning of one of those lawyer commercials?
Title: Re: Have you ever been the victim of the deposit scam?
Post by: Polite Society on May 03, 2022, 11:09:33 am
Why does this sound like the beginning of one of those lawyer commercials?

 Better Call Chalner?
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: DCReviews on May 04, 2022, 02:23:02 am
I feel bad for both sides. You have girls that are constantly scheduling sessions and spending money on flights, hotels and things like that and then people don’t show up and then you have people who get suckered and have their deposits taken. There should be a better way.   
Title: Re: Deposit Scams and Rip Offs
Post by: OrangeCountyCalifornia on May 05, 2022, 04:20:45 am
I never like leaving deposits for anybody especially after I got ripped off nine years ago but years ago I suspected it was going to be the norm after hearing so many cheapskates cancel their sessions at the last minute or no-shows.
Title: Re: Have you ever been the victim of the deposit scam?
Post by: Bulklover on May 05, 2022, 06:02:38 am
Why does this sound like the beginning of one of those lawyer commercials?

 Better Call Chalner?

Better Call Schmaul?