HerBicepsCam

[bukefal75]

M i the only one who noticed that there are some new *i would say amateur* girs who are kicking user without credits , their chat room is constantly empty 

[kjhub]

Sorry to interrupt the conversation, but I wanted to make a quick note:

I'm almost convinced that StrongMichelle is a fake profile on HBC.  If you watch the free chat there's never any expression, personality shown, or reaction to any comment; the outfits she wears never seem to vary;  she always sends private messages as soon as you log into her profile and requests money (tip or fantasy chat); the profile information is quite incorrect (if it is Mahaela Catalina Ginta); and finally, when she is taken private, she never seems to directly or specifically comply with any requests.

It appears that someone has assumed Mahaela Catalina Ginta's identity (with or without her approval) and is using it as an automated profile, with looped video, to chat and request money. 

It's all very peculiar, but I would simply suggest that the site owner check it out.

Thanks,
KJ

[qwqw]

I didn't know that was her name, but she's not a fake profile. She does try to milk you dry... never even says hi in free unless you come with the most money in the room, in which case she PMs you and almost begs for private. If you take her private, she does flex etc. but she also wastes a lot of time.

She also changes what her stats are going to be all the time. Sometimes she's 23, sometimes 25. Sometimes she has 15" biceps, sometimes it's more like 17". Sometimes she can curl 50, sometimes it's 80, etc.

[kjhub]

UPDATE:  I spoke to StrongMichelle on HBCam again, and it seems she is real after all. We had a good chat about some of the reasons why her chatting seemed so peculiar. And she also explained why she hadn't completed the video I bought. It turns out that she had recently injured herself.  We talked a little about respect and trust, and she promised that she would get my video to me right away.  She is very nice to chat with, and seems very friendly and down to earth, and for the moment, it seems that she plans to rectify my concerns.  I'll keep you all informed.

Thanks,
KJ

[qwqw]

probably playing you. I stopped in her free chat for a minute the other day, and she was begging some guy to give her a bunch of $20 tips. not much different from the "plz just add one more time" spiel. I'm guessing that chat of yours came in premium, if not one-on-one

[jadefoot]

Anyone spend some time with this asian gal at Herbiceps? She doesn't have much info at all in her profile.



 

[st1fler]

Is she ever in free chat or does she only sit in premium chat waiting for people to hop in?

She will go in free chat once in a while but not very often.  You get new girls who don't even look like they have ever touched a weight getting privates constantly.  Then you have Angela who is arguably the best looking FBB around who will sit in free chat for an hour getting 0 privates.

[deerfott]

You get new girls who don't even look like they have ever touched a weight getting privates constantly.  Then you have Angela who is arguably the best looking FBB around who will sit in free chat for an hour getting 0 privates.

People are always looking for what's new.

[Absfetish1]

Anyone spend some time with this asian gal at Herbiceps? She doesn't have much info at all in her profile.



 

[randy312]

She's one of the nicest, most down to earth girls there. Went pvt with her a few times, will go full nude, but not terribly explicit. Great conversation, just a sweetheart, one of  my very favorites, will leave you with a smile every time.

[jbkelly]

Yeah, StrongMichelle is a huge bummer.  When she first started on HBC, she duped me into spending probably around $100 chatting with her with a view towards setting up an in-person session.  Of course when I e-mailed her I got no response.  And when I went back on the webcam to ask her if she got my e-mail, she again tried to get me to spend lots of time chatting with her to set up a session.  When I e-mailed her after, again no response  More recently, I went back into her room to see if she would show off her strength with some heavy dumbbell curls in private.  She said she had 50lb dumbbells and would curl them, but she needed to get warmed up first with some lighter ones.  She did that, delayed some more, and before I knew it I had spent $30 and still not seen my request.  I left and vowed not to return to her room.  Why she makes a practice of misleading and alienating her customers I have no idea.  If she actually put on a good show and didn't spend her whole time scamming, I'd be happy to spend money in her room.  She's young, attractive, and built like an absolute brick house (and, if she is to be believed, mind-bogglingly strong).  But she seems to have trouble providing an honest show - too bad.   

[randy312]

Agreed on Michelle. I have done a couple pvts with her, she is upfront about not doing nudity, and that's a good thing, but I still would not recommend her, just tries to squeeze money out of you.

[FemFlexUSA]

Maybe, maybe not. How is that the defining characteristic of an insult? It's nothing short of the truth. The site owners take a sizeable cut from the girls, make a business by exploiting the sexuality of the girls and the impulsiveness of the guys, go to great pains to make sure the girls can't go to other sites (in fact, even try to bring in girls from some of the other cam sites) or work for themselves (e.g., via Skype), offer some protection for both the girls and the guys, and try to get the girls addicted to the site (or at least stuck there) so they can't go elsewhere (the girls get monitored on any camsite). Apparently the owners are dicks to at least some of the girls (someone mentioned Fon said that earlier in this thread). There's a reason they didn't give a damn when the site turned from admiring muscle girls into a total porn site. It brought them a lot more money, which is more important than sticking to their guns.

If you tell yourself that the girls are actually models, then I'm sorry. You say tomato, I say pimp.

Compared to most other webcam sites in the world, the models on HBC receive the highest commissions and by a very large margin.  There's obviously no comparison when it comes to traffic volume - Streamate, LiveJasmin, etc. all have huge user bases. But they pay out 35% or less to their models, and individual models are 100% responsible for any credit card fraud or chargebacks linked to their rooms.  It may not seem like a big deal to someone who's never tried to cheat a performer before - and to be clear, almost every webcam user is honest - but a single baddie can cost a performer a lot of money on other platforms. 

We pay 100% of the deposit bonuses to the customers out-of-pocket, which means the performers actually receive a higher percentage of the money which comes into the site. So, a performer whose commission is 63% might be taking home an effective 67% of what comes into her room. 

The performers on HBC are free to work wherever they wish. There are some who've chosen to be exclusive to HBC, but none are under contract or anything like that with us. Anyone on HBC may go anywhere else at any time. There are other performers who've chosen to be exclusive to other webcam sites and - to a person - we completely respect that and wish ALL performers in this genre well.  We don't close any doors or burn any bridges, but neither do we prevent anyone from operating in her own best interests. The only restriction is that we don't allow performers to use our service as a tool to recruit for other webcam sites, including Skype or similar.  That doesn't mean a performer is prevented from selling her own personal webcam shows via her own website. 

Having dealt with several hundred women over the years, there are some who don't like Mike, me, or both of us for any number of reasons. In my case, it's normally because I didn't send them copies of photos we shot. In Mike's case, it's normally for a problem he didn't even know existed.     That's just the nature of the beast, though - sometimes you'll offend someone over something seemingly benign without ever being aware of it. 

Business models aside, the primary difference between the major adult webcam services and HBC is the fact that we have personal relationships with so many of the performers.  That is why we - including Jen - make a concerted effort to be fair to both the customers and performers who keep the service viable. 

[FemFlexUSA]

If you feel you where cheated in some way, then it's the only solution. Don't give the girl or the site anymore money.

We've always held the position that we want HBC to provide excellent value to both customers and performers. 

We often receive emails from clients who'll tell they spent $10-12 in a performer's room without getting a single flex. We give back tons of credits in cases like these and communicate to the performers the importance of taking care of the customers.  Now this doesn't mean that a performer is obligated to do everything a client may request, but it's quite reasonable to expect that a premium show on herBICEPScam would involve flexing.

As for 'outside deals', well, those are outside our purview. There have been instances where guys have emailed us to complain that Performer X had promised to send them a custom video or even to travel to the client's hometown for a session or date if only he would wire her the money. While those occurrences are both rare and unfortunate, we're not in any way a party to those transactions. No, we don't want anyone using our service to locate marks to scam for large or even small sums of money, but we're very clear about our position: we operate a webcam site and any non-webcam-related negotiations willingly entered into by the adults using our service are not our concern. 

If, however, you ever feel that you've been somehow cheated out of a paid show by a performer or by the system itself, please don't hesitate to email us at herbicepscam@gmail.com. We take these types of complaints very seriously and attempt to resolve them as quickly as possible. 

[deerfott]

Compared to most other webcam sites in the world, the models on HBC receive the highest commissions and by a very large margin.  There's obviously no comparison when it comes to traffic volume - Streamate, LiveJasmin, etc. all have huge user bases. But they pay out 35% or less to their models, and individual models are 100% responsible for any credit card fraud or chargebacks linked to their rooms.  It may not seem like a big deal to someone who's never tried to cheat a performer before - and to be clear, almost every webcam user is honest - but a single baddie can cost a performer a lot of money on other platforms.

Actually, many other webcam sites payout 40% or more. Several HBC performers have mentioned they receive somewhere between a 45 - 48%. And as you mentioned, other camsites have a higher volume of traffic, so it likely those performers are making more money even if they receive a slightly lower percentage overall.   

If it is true that models are "100% responsible for any credit card fraud or chargebacks linked to their rooms," which seems dubious, how often does that actually happen?

We don't close any doors or burn any bridges, but neither do we prevent anyone from operating in her own best interests. The only restriction is that we don't allow performers to use our service as a tool to recruit for other webcam sites, including Skype or similar.  That doesn't mean a performer is prevented from selling her own personal webcam shows via her own website.

A completely disingenuous statement.

While much of what jq says is nonsense, he is correct about this. The "restriction" about not allowing a girl to mention "Skype or similar" works to directly "prevent anyone from operating in her own best interests." Shows via Skype are better for both the performers and the customers. It eliminates the middleman (HBC), which means the girls keep 100% of money and the fans pay a much lower rate. Obviously you know this, which is why you try to to prevent.

Also, being that most girls don't have their own sites, saying they are not "prevented from selling [their] own personal webcam shows via [their] own website" is basically meaningless.

That is why we - including Jen - make a concerted effort to be fair to both the customers and performers who keep the service viable.

If that is true, then pay the performers more and charge the customers less.
   

We've always held the position that we want HBC to provide excellent value to both customers and performers.

Again, pay the performers more and charge the customers less. If that means those that run the site make less money, so be it.

On a final note, all models should be required to use HD webcams. I think most customers, if not all, would agree with that.