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Private Sessions => Warnings for Private Sessions & Scammers and Complaints => Topic started by: billylong224 on December 05, 2023, 12:00:05 am
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Alright fellas, looking for opinions:
You are minding your own business when you see a sessionette advertise her coming to your area. She is from out of town (another country, in fact, if that matters), and is staying for a couple weeks up the road from you. She turns your crank and you are looking for something new, so you hit her up.
Comms go well and a date time is agreed upon.
The fee is discussed and deposit requested.
The fee is above average (imo) at $500 USD / hr, for basic MW with no extras. Indeed, extras are described as off the menu, per typical MO.
You pay the deposit and ask for the location info.
The response is: "he location is up to you , as I stay at a shared flat its not possible at my place".
What do you do next, given you're already on the fence about forking out that dough for a wildcard and you dont really have the time or - frankly - interest to go find a room.
Let the opinions fly!
Billy
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The location should have been established before you paid the deposit.
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That ignores the question at hand, but thanks.
To reiterate, "What would you do next?" is the theme. ;)
B
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PS: for the record, the "location", as in general area, but not a specific address, was established. what was not obviously clear was who would be hosting.
as a corollary question: how many sessions has anyone here experienced with an out of town sessionette - ADVERTISING SESSIONS - where you hosted?
in my well >20 years of shmoeing, my answer is easy: ZERO.
B
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That ignores the question at hand, but thanks.
To reiterate, "What would you do next?" is the theme. ;)
B
I'd admit you're an idiot.
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You don't seem bothered about showing up so why are we bothering to answer you?
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why are you posting at all, if you have nothing salient to add.
and, being frank, the irony of your username doesn't go unnoticed by this guy.
maybe a question just for you: are you the world's biggest douche, or just this site's? it really is unclear.
love,
B
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still hoping for actual opinions from anyone other than PS, whose comments are perenially useless in my (albeit limited) experience on this site.
B
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Something is not right about this. See if you can get your deposit back. Let us know. You wanted an opinion on what to do next. This is my opinion.
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Thanks OS! Appreciate the useful comment.
In parallel with my solicitation here, I have reached out to the sessionette who, disappointingly, since receiving my deposit has gone full ghost.
My POV is that she has lost nothing other than the time to send a few emails.
And, I suggested she refund me less $50, for any trouble.
My last message to her was that I would give her another 24 hrs, then feel compelled to at least warn others of this "surprise".
On my end, I completely recognize that any deposit should be considered gone once it is sent. And, of course, had I simply no-showed or given some last minute reason to not go forward, I would expect nothing back. But that is pretty much the opposite of what happened here. Within minutes of the deposit going through and getting wind that she would not be able to host, I asked for the deposit back. So, again, I'm at a loss to understand why she would think it was reasonable for her to keep it.
But, then, reasonable is not always in great supply in this world. I get it! :)
Thx again my good man; will keep y'all posted.
B
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Update: the silence has been broken. Although no clear resolution yet.
I sense we weren't going to get anywhere with simply cutting our mutual losses: bummer.
So, I suggested a spot. I don't think she is going to like it, but let's call this my curveball back. I will drive my RV up to where she is, we session in the RV! :D
So, the sessionette now has three options I've presented:
- she can offer a place
- she can accept my offer of a place
- she can refund my money
I feel I'm being more than fair, but let's see how she responds; stay tuned!
B
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An RV is verging into a Jame Gumb's van sort of session locale.
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An RV is verging into a Jame Gumb's van sort of session locale.
:clap:
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An RV is verging into a Jame Gumb's van sort of session locale.
Ha! Well, notwithstanding that being sorta the point, mine is nicer than most houses (particularly in the area where she's staying! lol), and is effectively a hotel room on wheels.
And, good news, she has two other options from which she can choose, including the one everyone would expect (incall), and the one anyone would prefer at this point in the debacle (deposit refund). The latter a sad reflection, as I was pretty excited to meet this gal. Now? IF this happens, it is destined to be disappointing. Oh well.
B
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An RV is verging into a Jame Gumb's van sort of session locale.
Ha! Well, notwithstanding that being sorta the point, mine is nicer than most houses (particularly in the area where she's staying! lol), and is effectively a hotel room on wheels.
And, good news, she has two other options from which she can choose, including the one everyone would expect (incall), and the one anyone would prefer at this point in the debacle (deposit refund). The latter a sad reflection, as I was pretty excited to meet this gal. Now? IF this happens, it is destined to be disappointing. Oh well.
B
You come across as if you think you've outsmarted her with this creepy proposal. Not aware of any hotel chain using RV's as room alternatives but you know best.
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You come across as if you think you've outsmarted her with this creepy proposal. Not aware of any hotel chain using RV's as room alternatives but you know best.
lol. i'm not concerned about your imaginary intelligence contest, i'm looking to disposition this mess. i asked for advice here, so not sure why anyone with an IQ over 60 would conclude " know best", but here we are. the evidence heretofore suggests you cant make a rational argument as to why an RV would be any more "creepy" than going to some random, shitty motel room. it's almost like you've never actually had a session - which wouldn't surprise me at all.
and, in fairness, you come across as a sanctimonious bag of dicks whenever you pop up. it's a shame your weak will outmatches your bluster in reply 5, resulting in my having to continue to suffer from your inanity. oh well. do please reconsider your pathetic focus on my thread and feel free to GTFO, thx!
B
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Thanks OS! Appreciate the useful comment.
In parallel with my solicitation here, I have reached out to the sessionette who, disappointingly, since receiving my deposit has gone full ghost.
My POV is that she has lost nothing other than the time to send a few emails.
And, I suggested she refund me less $50, for any trouble.
My last message to her was that I would give her another 24 hrs, then feel compelled to at least warn others of this "surprise".
On my end, I completely recognize that any deposit should be considered gone once it is sent. And, of course, had I simply no-showed or given some last minute reason to not go forward, I would expect nothing back. But that is pretty much the opposite of what happened here. Within minutes of the deposit going through and getting wind that she would not be able to host, I asked for the deposit back. So, again, I'm at a loss to understand why she would think it was reasonable for her to keep it.
But, then, reasonable is not always in great supply in this world. I get it! :)
Thx again my good man; will keep y'all posted.
At worst, at least I have been entertained.
Update: the silence has been broken. Although no clear resolution yet.
I sense we weren't going to get anywhere with simply cutting our mutual losses: bummer.
So, I suggested a spot. I don't think she is going to like it, but let's call this my curveball back. I will drive my RV up to where she is, we session in the RV! :D
So, the sessionette now has three options I've presented:
- she can offer a place
- she can accept my offer of a place
- she can refund my money
I feel I'm being more than fair, but let's see how she responds; stay tuned!
Your feelings are your own and while they're valid for you, they're meaningless for her. Your POV about "what she has lost" is pure fucking shit. If it were just that one comment, I think it's a fair mention - you're merely verbalizing the "balance" you see/don't see - but in the broader context of all the other things you've written, it becomes another data point saying "this motherfucker is a sociopath".
Have you spoken with your real-world friends about this new proposal? What do they think about it? Because if you have anyone close to you who's endorsing this, you should get them the fuck out of your life.
RV sessioning is only on the table after you've already met several times over a period of years. You have to know this proposal is crazy.
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If I hadn't already shown you to be a toolbag, FemFlex wrapped this one up.
Clearly the fourth option was overlooked. She returns nothing and goes back to ghosting you. Not bad considering my IQ compared to B who demonstrates in every post he doesn't have the sense he was born with.
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You have to know this proposal is crazy.
perhaps, if you ignore EVERYTHING ELSE:
- she can host, which is what was expected
- she can refund
if/when i disclose a warning for others and reveal the sessionette, i will post the entire thread. then you can tell me this is crazy, or if this girl is - as it seems - unreasonably holding my deposit (yes, my opinion - not sure who else's i should be representing).
B
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You have to know this proposal is crazy.
perhaps, if you ignore EVERYTHING ELSE:
- she can host, which is what was expected
- she can refund
if/when i disclose a warning for others and reveal the sessionette, i will post the entire thread. then you can tell me this is crazy, or if this girl is - as it seems - unreasonably holding my deposit (yes, my opinion - not sure who else's i should be representing).
B
Only 'you' expected. The rest of us know to establish the session location arrangements way before sending a deposit. Let this one go, cheapskate.
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If I hadn't already shown you to be a toolbag, FemFlex wrapped this one up.
Clearly the fourth option was overlooked. She returns nothing and goes back to ghosting you. Not bad considering my IQ compared to B who demonstrates in every post he doesn't have the sense he was born with.
LOLOL
can't script this. thanks so much! you dont reveal anything about anyone other than yourself: an intellectually flaccid asshole. congrats!
B
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You have to know this proposal is crazy.
perhaps, if you ignore EVERYTHING ELSE:
- she can host, which is what was expected
- she can refund
if/when i disclose a warning for others and reveal the sessionette, i will post the entire thread. then you can tell me this is crazy, or if this girl is - as it seems - unreasonably holding my deposit (yes, my opinion - not sure who else's i should be representing).
B
Only 'you' expected. The rest of us know to establish the session location arrangements way before sending a deposit. Let this one go, cheapskate.
good to know your perfection has resulted in a life with nothing resembling simple miscommunication. the rest of us pleibs can only imagine what it's like to be such a giant dick.
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btw: it's worth reminding at least one person reading this saga, that had the sessionette followed the same pattern as the SCORES before her i've met, this thread wouldn't exist.
no, i am not perfect, like others here pretend to be. but, neither is anyone else, including this sessionette.
B
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Can't wait to see your heavily edited version of your thread with the sessionette to then have her confirm the accuracy. Because that's what all us massive dicks do to show people up.
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An RV is verging into a Jame Gumb's van sort of session locale.
Ha! Well, notwithstanding that being sorta the point
I'm still parsing that. It was the point to conjure images of one of the creepiest cinematic serial killers of all time? It might be time to take a minute and regroup here.
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An RV is verging into a Jame Gumb's van sort of session locale.
Ha! Well, notwithstanding that being sorta the point
I'm still parsing that. It was the point to conjure images of one of the creepiest cinematic serial killers of all time? It might be time to take a minute and regroup here.
You're killing it against this mental midget.
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You're killing it against this mental midget.
great news! when you're done swinging from mra's nuts, you'll have a dick nearby you can go eat! lol
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You're killing it against this mental midget.
great news! when you're done swinging from mra's nuts, you'll have a dick nearby you can go eat! lol
Had the RV offer accepted yet Jame?
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Had the RV offer accepted yet Jame?
new to English, eh?
if it was anyone else, it would go unnoticed. but since your the type of "genius" that likes to point this kind of thing out: "Has"
you're welcome!
Love,
Jame
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Can't wait to see your heavily edited version of your thread with the sessionette to then have her confirm the accuracy. Because that's what all us massive dicks do to show people up.
LOL... "us"? No, my good friend; the only doosher I continue to see here is you.
To everyone (anyone?) else following along, I'm very happy to report that the sessionette and I have found a mutually amicable resolution. Yay! She acknowledged she will refund the deposit; just waiting for that to come through. Hope to see it soon and with that move along.
Lastly, I learned two lessons from all this: PS is a total loser (although, truthfully, this recognition began about 15 years or so ago, whenever it was I first stumbled across this place), and, most importantly, communication/setup can never be explicit enough when booking someone new. I'm pleased to go forth incorporating this learning in the future.
With that, a good day, gentlemen!
B / Jame
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Can't wait to see your heavily edited version of your thread with the sessionette to then have her confirm the accuracy. Because that's what all us massive dicks do to show people up.
LOL... "us"? No, my good friend; the only doosher I continue to see here is you.
To everyone (anyone?) else following along, I'm very happy to report that the sessionette and I have found a mutually amicable resolution. Yay! She acknowledged she will refund the deposit; just waiting for that to come through. Hope to see it soon and with that move along.
Lastly, I learned two lessons from all this: PS is a total loser (although, truthfully, this recognition began about 15 years or so ago, whenever it was I first stumbled across this place), and, most importantly, communication/setup can never be explicit enough when booking someone new. I'm pleased to go forth incorporating this learning in the future.
With that, a good day, gentlemen!
B / Jame
I'm glad you're getting your money back.
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At least that saves on you getting the RV fumigated.
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Can't wait to see your heavily edited version of your thread with the sessionette to then have her confirm the accuracy. Because that's what all us massive dicks do to show people up.
LOL... "us"? No, my good friend; the only doosher I continue to see here is you.
To everyone (anyone?) else following along, I'm very happy to report that the sessionette and I have found a mutually amicable resolution. Yay! She acknowledged she will refund the deposit; just waiting for that to come through. Hope to see it soon and with that move along.
Lastly, I learned two lessons from all this: PS is a total loser (although, truthfully, this recognition began about 15 years or so ago, whenever it was I first stumbled across this place), and, most importantly, communication/setup can never be explicit enough when booking someone new. I'm pleased to go forth incorporating this learning in the future.
With that, a good day, gentlemen!
B / Jame
Glad it's going to work out for you without the RV being involved.
You might not like Polite Society being a straight shooter, but for context, take any 5 guys on this entire forum, add up their sessions, and he's likely done more than they, combined. To say he's "more than a little experienced" is quite the understatement. He's a tremendous information resource and though you certainly don't have to take my word for it, he has gone way above and beyond in service to our little community. There are many women in the game who were introduced to sessioning by PS. And it's exactly because he's a straight shooter that it happened.
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Yep, he claimed he wanted 'opinions' and it emerged immediately he wanted them to be sugar-coated. NOT my style. Struggling to see the basis for any complaint from this schlong for overlooking the absolute arrangement basics. But it sure was funny seeing his expectation for being pandered to result in next to nothing.
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I'm sorry that I got to this thread so late, and my take is even later, but I'm going to proffer it anyway. I've seen lots and lots of travelers over the past twenty-five years. Now I was doing it back when deposits were not "a thing." But one of the early questions I always had, or info she volunteered, was where the session would take place; since driving to LA or San Diego sucks such massive moosehog, locale was always key esp. if the landed closer to me. Since the advent of deposits, I've only done two session that required them . . . and boy was THAT a Gordian Knot for someone trying to avoid a digital footprint! Amazon gift cards to the rescue. The not so short version, always get the locale established prior to sending any greenback boogie.
Re Polite Society, Billy, don't take him so seriously. I did, twenty years ago, and then I met him at a show and found he's one of the funniest most engaging members of Schmoe Nation, and his online persona is designed for a bit of fun. And I have to admit, I always get my popcorn when someone gets in a pissing match with him; your responses were pretty funny! LOL! He's also probably done more sessions than the entire western hemisphere, and he's unlocked a lot of UTRs from which many of us have benefitted. Oh, one more thing. When I first met him online, we sparred . . .and then he saddled me with the moniker "Bike Loser" because I ride a Harley. And then another guy posted a picture of my head attached to some kid on a Big Wheel with a bunch of the rest of our group with their heads on the bodies of little kids on tricycles following me on the Big Wheel . . . so, I embraced the new moniker . . .especially when I found out he was mining UTRs . . . yes, I was ready to swing from his balls, cuz I know which side my bread is buttered on. ;)
Oh, and btw, Femflex is a dick! Heehee! ;)