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Female BodyBuilding & Fitness & Figure - Members Area => Female Bodybuilding, Physique, Fitness, Figure & Bikini Contest Photos & News => Topic started by: Willy Fog on August 31, 2014, 01:20:53 am
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Only 11 female bodybuilders qualified for this year's Ms. Olympia contest. Since Brigita Brezovac retired, there will be only 10. I don't know if Debi Laszewski is still competing. Anyway, this is the smallest field in the history of the contest. :'(
(http://thumbnails111.imagebam.com/34840/9f4f58348394016.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/9f4f58348394016)
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Almost 30 competitors in the Bikini division:
(http://thumbnails112.imagebam.com/34840/7f4309348397242.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/7f4309348397242)
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Figure:
(http://thumbnails110.imagebam.com/34840/7f8cfd348397246.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/7f8cfd348397246)
Fitness:
(http://thumbnails112.imagebam.com/34840/2672fa348397251.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/2672fa348397251)
Physique:
(http://thumbnails112.imagebam.com/34840/75398c348397258.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/75398c348397258)
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Wow,
A top 10 placing in the Olympia used to be a decent showing, with this year's entry list only containing 11 entrants (unless they get some last minute) a top 10 will only mean you weren't the unfortunate one to finish dead last. What's the final posedown to determine the overall champ going to be...the top 4? that will be about as fun as watching paint dry ::).
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K+354 Thanks for the news even if it is bad. I wish I knew more because, I thought more women would have qualified. Did some Pro shows go away?
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Knowing Brigitas retired & with a points system in place they CouldA sorted it in plentya time so thirty Wbbs were at the O as much as they were at ALL the qualifiers & as we all know,the Wbbs don't compete in every qualifiers cause they can afford to.
.Toronto.Tampa.Omaha.Chicago,Top 6 gives you 24 for starters! ..Gawd forbid they should organise AnY Wbb event right! Least of all the world championships its SupposeD to be!!
.No doubt it,ll be used by doom merchants to say it proves its dying,likes theres only 10 left! .Funny in a way,what started the rot (apart from Prague) was when was there was only the Ms O on the womens side ,the powers that be decided 30 was too much & we don't want 20+ also rans,,,uh,how many in BIkini this year??
As long as the O continues,we troo muscle fans shouldn't worry too much if the cream on top don't fill the glass-lol.
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According to the ifbbpro website the top 5 women for points earned during the 2014 contest season will be eligible to compete at the Ms Olympia, currently that would include Margie Martin, Chris Envall, Alana Shipp, Lisa Giesbrecht and Jennifer Sedia. If the ladies accept the invitation there will be 16 competitors.
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According to the ifbbpro website the top 5 women for points earned during the 2014 contest season will be eligible to compete at the Ms Olympia, currently that would include Margie Martin, Chris Envall, Alana Shipp, Lisa Giesbrecht and Jennifer Sedia. If the ladies accept the invitation there will be 16 competitors.
Margie Martin and Christine Envall are already on the list. If Alana Shipp, Lisa Giesbrecht and Jennifer Sedia really compete there will be 13 competitors. But right now the Olympia website www.mrolympia.com says Alana Shipp, Lisa Giesbrecht and Jennifer Sedia are not qualified.
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K+354 Thanks for the news even if it is bad. I wish I knew more because, I thought more women would have qualified. Did some Pro shows go away?
Yes! Arnold to name just one. Google Save Women's Bodybuilding to read more, plus the subject is covered extensively on this forum.
There was a time that all up comming FBB's used to say they "dream of being Ms O one day" but that would appear to not be the sace these days. Still sad to see the contest slowly wither away. No really exciting new blood in the sport. FBB at the Olympia is really a side show now, how things have changed in the last 10 years! If Alana Shipp, Lisa Giesbrecht and Jennifer Sedia do compete, that will inject some more new blood into the FBB division, and increase the interest.
For me, Physique is the contest to watch, the muscular development in this division is very impressive, and already far too much for the non enthusiastic public to stand!
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Just wondering if Iris Kyle's entry is a non-starter for many of the ladies? Are the expenses worth it to go against her just to finish 2nd?
Just wondering...
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Just wondering if Iris Kyle's entry is a non-starter for many of the ladies? Are the expenses worth it to go against her just to finish 2nd?
Just wondering...
Many still believe that entering the Ms O is a dream come true, and actually 2nd is not a shabby result. To get to the Ms O is still considered to be the pinnacle of an FBB's career, an athlete's dream, despite the dwindling numbers. So any athlete who gets to the O is a winner, no other contest carries as much kudos, so getting 1st is a dream, but just getting there is a remarkable achievement, for any lady.
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i believe Jennifer Abshire is taking this year off
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Y'know,
You might be right musc69, I think we (myself included) are looking at this wrong,we're complaining about quantity when the QUALITY of the competitors appears amazing,it might not be that bad of a show after all we shall see.
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I predict:
1. Iris
2. Yaxeni
3. Alina
4. everyone else
It's always going to be Iris 'till she reties, and maybe it's time she does
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No, goldbricker. NO. :look: The reign of the evil Galactic Kyle Empire must end!
1. Alina Popa
2. Iris Kyle
3. Yaxeni Oriquen
4. Debi Lasewski
And then everyone else
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Only 11 female bodybuilders qualified for this year's Ms. Olympia contest. Since Brigita Brezovac retired, there will be only 10. I don't know if Debi Laszewski is still competing. Anyway, this is the smallest field in the history of the contest. :'(
(http://thumbnails111.imagebam.com/34840/9f4f58348394016.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/9f4f58348394016)
When you think about how low the numbers are for all the categories it clearly shows how worthless the IFBB is as a bodybuilding federation.
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No, goldbricker. NO. :look: The reign of the evil Galactic Kyle Empire must end!
1. Alina Popa
2. Iris Kyle
3. Yaxeni Oriquen
4. Debi Lasewski
And then everyone else
completely agree. Alina is bringing it this year watchout!!
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Agreed,
This multi-year dominance of one woman has got to stop. It started with Cory E.,then Lenda,now Iris has a stranglehold on the title. You can't tell me and have me believe that one woman can be that dominant for that long, the it started with Cory,then came Lenda, and now we're in the "Iris era",c'mon let's have a new queen for a change!.
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Whoops, ignore the gibberish I typed after "You can't tell me and have me believe that one woman can be that dominant for so long", the rest of it is my not seeing what I was typing,I should've stopped after what I quoted here. The quote was my focal point.
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ifbbpro.com
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Ok, so obviously there will be 13 competitors at the Ms. Olympia. I still wonder why Brigita Brezovacs name is on that list. Seems like even the IFBB doesn't know that she retired.
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Ok, so obviously there will be 13 competitors at the Ms. Olympia. I still wonder why Brigita Brezovacs name is on that list. Seems like even the IFBB doesn't know that she retired.
The final list will be posted next week.
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1. Alina
2. Iris
3. Yaxeni
4. Debi
5. Annie Freitas
6. Margie/Sheila
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Its set up for Alina to win this year, you will see, its all politics.
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My prediction:
Ms. Olympia - Alina Popa
Ms. Fitness - Oksana Grishina
Ms. Physique - Juliana Malacarne
I cannot say anything about Figure and Bikini because all these girls look pretty much the same. Impossible to judge for me.
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Yeah agree figure and bikini are more difficult to judge. I dunno think I'll wait n see how they actually show up for any predictions.
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Man I hope you guys are right about Iris being dethroned. Frankly I'm a little tired of seeing Iris win all the time. This might be blasphemy to some but I think she's very overrated. I think her winning all the time is lowering the standards of the show...it's no longer the Ms. Olympia, it's the Iris Kyle show. This provides no suspense to the fans, and it must be disheartening for the women to compete in Ms. Olympia, only to see the same person win again and again, as if it's already a predetermined outcome.
Not even the female bodybuilding fans talk about Iris! Anne and Alina are the rage these days, rightfully so in my opinion.
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I'd say it depends on how well Alina peaks. If anyone has a chance to dethrone Iris it's definitely Alina. There's a big lean towards aesthetics and no question Alina has her beat in that dept. so that favors her this yr. On the other hand it is big #10 and Iris sure af ain't givin it away, so could be razor close and go either way.
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its all fixed, Alina will win it this year, but Simone de oliveira is in better shape.
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Well again we still have to see how they show up and better is subjective. Simone has looked depleted, her bi's are still a bit shallow and I think the torpedo implants were a big mistake IMO. As far as the fix politics are always a factor but Alina arguably should have already won last year, which is no doubt why she's so heavily favored by many this year.
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paul2000,
If it were fixed as you think, wouldn't they just FedEx the trophy and champion's check to Iris' home and tell everyone not to even show up because there's no point to?. Let's just wait and see if someone can knock Iris off the pedestal she's currently perched on.
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Right, it obviously won't just be a "mailed it in" situation. I think Paul's suggesting that it's already been predetermined to go with Alina due to the current political landscape and her image (standard) being needed right now. If so it is a valid point. But at the same time Iris could also be the political choice in order to wind things up with her 10th and proceed with the overall objective. I'd say it's more a case where these along with a number of other factors will play a role in the overall decision. But then again if someone misses their peak and someone else nails it can also tip the scales which is why waiting to see how they actually show up is still necessary.
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precisely the_arbitrage, the result has been determined. If Iris wins, fbb has no future. She was off last year and was lucky to have won, Alina will win this year.
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I think Alina will win it a couple of times and then the likes of Aleesha or Theresa will dominate. I think Kim Perez and Monique have been unlucky, better upper body than Alina any day, but they do not have the complete package, which has been a disadvantage. I have met Monique in person and she is ridiculously huge, here upperbody is so big, makes her legs look smaller when they really are not!
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Alisha Young will never dominate Ms O and neither will Theresa. You guys on this board go absolutely nuts for her, she is a very big girl, but she also looks already like someone who has taken far too many roids too quickly to have look Ms O judges will ever vote in. On top of that she is far too blocky and top heavy. She will need to work on her shape for years before she has any hope. She is blocky and has massive tits, look at the winners in last 15 years. In purely BB terms Alesha has no chance of winning Ms O.
if girls like Alesha would ever win Ms O then Chris Envall would be a reigning champ.
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Alisha Young will never dominate Ms O and neither will Theresa. You guys on this board go absolutely nuts for her, she is a very big girl, but she also looks already like someone who has taken far too many roids too quickly to have look Ms O judges will ever vote in. On top of that she is far too blocky and top heavy. She will need to work on her shape for years before she has any hope. She is blocky and has massive tits, look at the winners in last 15 years. In purely BB terms Alesha has no chance of winning Ms O.
if girls like Alesha would ever win Ms O then Chris Envall would be a reigning champ.
I agree - Aleesha by all accounts is a very nice lady (I have nothing personal against her and sometimes find some of her photos/videos very sexy), but her body is just not what the Pro judges are looking for IMO (Alina or similar body style is what they'll be going for in the future, assuming there's a Ms O. bodybuilding contest in a couple of years - not certain at present)- to be honest, she's been very lucky in winning the Amateur level show as the current crop is not anywhere near the standard of those even 5 years ago, let alone 10 or more. I think she would've been lucky to have placed in the top 5, maybe even the top 10 back then. I suspect she won't do as well as some of her most ardent fans believe as a pro.
Theresa needs to work on her lower body to bring it up to the size of her upper body, and generally gain some more size. Like Aleesha (as has been said), she's already showing quite distinct signs of the drugs side-effects (though less overall than Aleesha), and unfortunately for her (because other than it) she is a very good looking woman - the specific side effects draw the viewers' (and possibly the judges) attention rather than her physique.
Sadly its much more noticeable that the current crop of amateur FBBs and lower-ranked pros are trying to 'fast-track' gains in their physique (possibly because they know they financially cannot keep going for 15-20 years like competitors from the 1990s - 2000s) by heavily juicing without either getting their training techniques or diet really honed (i.e. really knowing what works for them - this likely takes some time to accomplish - not less than 5 years), and not getting the best out of the drugs, but enduring significant and likely permanent side effects (both visually and with their long-term health generally) as a result of taking higher doses and/or more potent varieties. Whilst following this path, and additionally as Aleesha and more FBBs have by getting cartoon-style breast implants, they appear to be risking everything to be considered 'freaks' for just a few short years, then leaving the scene when they realise its the more 'normal' feminine competitors that win most often, and that their look is driving the sport into an early grave.
I should note that for newer members here who don't know me, I am a FBB fan of over 25 years and still love the really BIG ladies (and don't see competitors from the 1990s - 2000s through 'rose-tinted spectacles' as if they got huge, still were all beautiful without side effects from the drugs they were taking) - so I don't have any axe to grind against anyone in particular - I just despair sometimes how things in female bodybuilding are going downhill, and that both a) there's not much I appear to be able to do about it, and b) so many fans (particularly some of the newer ones) just seem to be oblivious (or don't care) of the downward trend.
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Spot-on shimmer and UK.
Prudent recognition of the issues endangering WBB. I'm also a huge proponent of ALL levels (including the extreme) but have also been acutely aware of the problems involved since the very beginning. It was around 95-96 when the standard started to switch over that my internal wiring "roidar" alarm went off. And what's happening right now to WBB is exactly what my concern was back then. At that time I felt a sense of urgency which unfortunately led to more of a militant approach. In hindsight that was a mistake and I do still owe some ppl my apologies for it.
Needless to say the aesthetic movement (and 4 new divisions) are exploding right now. While that's a huge positive I'm still not happy at all about what's happening to WBB. It has been on a steady decline and that process will only continue to snowball without something very specific being done. The extreme niche market is comparatively very limited. A lot more is needed in order for that level to propagate, thrive and become more widely accepted and respected. There absolutely is a formula that will work to accomplish those objectives but it will take some folks becoming a bit more open-minded. Also keep in mind with any given formula or format that unless ALL elements are included then it won't necessarily work. Hopefully in the future we can get past some of the old political bs and make it happen, but in the meantime let's see how things go over the weekend, should be pretty interesting.
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I bet on alina
she already looked awesome last year and there has to be a change, for the sake of womens bodybuilding.....
but a question: I am from overseas and got no idea about american sports tv in the internet. does someone knew where I can watch a live stream about olympia??? I got no idea :'(
thanks for occasional answers....
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Iris Kyle will win.
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No question about it. It'll be the Iris show until she retires. Pisses me the fuck off
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Iris Kyle will win.
I beg to differ. I have a gut feeling Alina is going to destroy the competition. I hope that feeling is true & not what I ate last night. LOL!!! Anyway, GO ALINA!!!!!!
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I'm pessimistic, I'm afraid. Alina has to show up in superb shape (similar to last year), and hope
also that Iris is a little bit off (like she was at the Ms International last year). That's our only hope, I'm afraid.
Otherwise the reign of boredom continues.
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I agree, unless Alina or one of the other girls shows up in 'Amazon Goddess' like shape, it looks to be "The Iris Kyle Show" again, like I said in an earlier post just ship the champion's check and trophy to Iris' house (I know that is an extreme remark but it's kind of gotten to that point as far as this 'contest' is concerned IMO). ::)
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I think Alina will win it a couple of times and then the likes of Aleesha or Theresa will dominate. I think Kim Perez and Monique have been unlucky, better upper body than Alina any day, but they do not have the complete package, which has been a disadvantage. I have met Monique in person and she is ridiculously huge, here upperbody is so big, makes her legs look smaller when they really are not!
I've alos met Monique in person, and I have to disagree with you, she IS the complete package. Her legs and glutes are ENORMOUS and shapely. She does
have very broad shoulders, which gives her the illusion of having an oversized upper body. But in reality her physique is as complete as it gets.
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Only 11 female bodybuilders qualified for this year's Ms. Olympia contest. Since Brigita Brezovac retired, there will be only 10. I don't know if Debi Laszewski is still competing. Anyway, this is the smallest field in the history of the contest. :'(
(http://thumbnails111.imagebam.com/34840/9f4f58348394016.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/9f4f58348394016)
I have not read every post in this thread... But as far as the nb is concerned, 1988 there were 15 or 16 competitors with Cory Everson as the winner, so 11 aint that bad, What is bad is not so much the nb at the top, but that FBB is dying from the bottom up :(
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Any news on Ms Olympia prejudging? I've searched for pics online, nothing yet.
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WPD ... Looks like the judges have finally decided to cut the bs when it comes to Juliana Malacarne. Hands down the best genetics in WPD right now. 7th place last year was absolutely ridiculous. The eventually moved her to center and the crowd erupted.
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The rest ...
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And of course you bring out your top 2 at the end ...
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The next evolution in homo sapiens ...
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She looks UNBELIEVABLE. Best I've ever seen Anne Freitas.
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WBB comparison rounds ... with the last two being Alina and Iris ...
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The good news is, Alina looks spectacular. The bad news, so does Iris, particularly from the rear, where her physique
looks flawless, and better than Alina. But Alina does looks amazing, so at least she has a shot.
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And I must say, Anne Freitas came to PLAY. She should place third, at the very least.
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Watching the fitness routines now. Zzzzzzzz.
Looking forward to the bodybuilding though (and the physique class, which is basically bodybuilding lite --
trust me those girls are HUGE in the flesh too). I have this weird feeling that Anne Freitas is going to come out of nowhere
and win this thing. But its probably wishful thinking.
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Bodybuilders on now. So far, Christine Envall has blown me away -- incredible mass. She's not going to win it,
but at least she brought an exciting physique.
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Debbie L. on now. SHe looks good, but I've seen her look way better. Top 5 probably.
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Margie Martin. Wow what an exciting physique. Bulging muscles everywhere -- back shot makes me want to swoon!
But her conditioning is off.
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Alina is so freaking superior to Iris tonight its not even funny. Iris has no abs whatsoever. Alina's conditioning
blows Iris away. Alina looks like a champion, plain and simple. They better award her the title.
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is it me, or did a lot of their tanning look bad, I don't know if it was the hot lights making them look like that, also agree with you, I think Alina should win it over Iris. I also loved Margie Martin and Alana Shipp, thought they should place a little higher
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is it me, or did a lot of their tanning look bad, I don't know if it was the hot lights making them look like that, also agree with you, I think Alina should win it over Iris. I also loved Margie Martin and Alana Shipp, thought they should place a little higher
You're right, I thought Anne Freitas tan looked atrocious -- too bad becasue her phsyique looked pretty good.
The only girl who's tan looked good? Alina Popa. Honestly she looked perfect in every respect tonight.
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wow, really thought Alina was going to take it, congrats to the 10x champ Iris Kyle. Glad to see Alana Shipp took 4th, should have been third in my opinion
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If you thought last year was a travesty, this year...I just feel bad for Alina. She's got to be thinking "what does it TAKE to beat this woman?"
IFBB sucks. Really they do.
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I guarantee there will be a new champion next year........................cuz Iris announced her retirement.
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I really did think Alina should have won last year. This time around, Iris had her. Have to admit...
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Wow I didn't even think Debi L. deserved third. What show are these IFBB judges watching?
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I really did think Alina should have won last year. This time around, Iris had her. Have to admit...
Alina's conditioning was ALL OVER Iris. Alina had abs. Alina had legs. Alina had balance between her upper and lower
physique. How exactly did Iris have her?
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IRIS KYLE GANA POR 10º VEZ Y ANUNCIA SU RETIRO
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Wow I didn't even think Debi L. deserved third. What show are these IFBB judges watching?
me either, my top 5 were
Alina Popa
Alana Shipp
Iris Kyle
Anne Freitas
Debi Laszewski
Margie Martin should have made top 6
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So the question really is: was this year a bigger travesty or was it last year? I can grudgingly accept last year's decision,
because maybe Alina spectacular condition took the judges by surprise. But there was no excuse this year.
Its Lenda Murray vs Laura Crevalle all over again.
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Boo. Totally undeserved.
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What a great show!
In my humble opinion, Iris deserved it again. Alina, like last year, was a close second.
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Hmmm, 10 years, that no doubt is a great accomplishment and she should be happy, but in the case of the judges :areyouchicken: to award the title to someone else or has Iris really been that dialed in? Now, if this was indeed her last hurrah,then congratulations, you get to drive off into the sunset a heroine. ::)
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I was surprised by that result, but that was rigged. Thought they would rig it with Alina to win, but had to give it to Iris. Alana looked amazing
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ALL HAIL BLACK QUEEN!
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I was surprised by that result, but that was rigged. Thought they would rig it with Alina to win, but had to give it to Iris. Alana looked amazing
Its set up for Alina to win this year, you will see, its all politics
its all fixed, Alina will win it this year, but Simone de oliveira is in better shape.
precisely the_arbitrage, the result has been determined. If Iris wins, fbb has no future. She was off last year and was lucky to have won, Alina will win this year.
I was surprised by that result, but that was rigged. Thought they would rig it with Alina to win, but had to give it to Iris. Alana looked amazing
:wow: Rarely do we get to see the rantings of a Conspiracy Theorist at work. Very interesting.
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if iris win, fbb no future ?
All the contrary. It was determined maybe, but an athlete who won 10 times is good for the sports.
Saying fbb is going off again. I think it will continue at the olympia, and its a question of changing the director of the arnold to have fbb again. Its all about the director, its contingeant.
Alina could win next year, but there will be other competitors too, its soon to tell who will win next year.
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Alina deserved 2nd place, its still so good.
Alina had the better lower body. Iris had the better upper body. it's close it could have gone either way.
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Finally the Iris Kyle dictatorship is over. She was a great champion but I am happy that she retired. Now it's time for the Alina Popa reign, unless the IFBB decides to remove female bodybuilding from the Olympia.
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Boo. Totally undeserved.
Is it truly undeserved? Or did you just wanna see Alina dethrone her?
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Iris Kyle is the empress of FBB, that's for sure. I've never been a fan of her, because she very rarely posed and took with photo/videos sessions. However, her physique is astonishing. There is big competition now, I would be no surprised that someone else, than Alina Popa or Debi Laszewski become new queen. Anne Freitas also looks astonishing but Alana Shipp is a new discovery.
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I think Iris deserves all the awards and titles she received throughout the years. Now I only seen two pics of her on the stage last night with Alina, and to each their own on who they think won, I never had the most discerning eye in these competitions- they all look beautiful and I want to bone them all. But I do know Iris is always in the gym (male bodybuilders who train with her say she is in there longer than them), she is rarely on social media except giving an interview after she wins a competition. I think she puts the time in like no other, don't get me wrong the sport will be better if the others could win some competitions against her but they will have to have the better package.
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Boo. Totally undeserved.
Is it truly undeserved? Or did you just wanna see Alina dethrone her?
All the Iris-haters can get their way next year. She announced her retirement from the sport last night. An Iris victory was never underserved, IMHO...
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I think the future belongs to Alina Popa, Alana Shipp and Margie Martin. Alana Shipp needs to grow and build some more muscle. Margie Martin needs better conditioning and she will become the new Iris Kyle. Right now Alina has the best package. I hope she will do more photo and video shootings. Seems like the Olympia pros hide from the photographers. I've rarely seen a picture from this years top three.
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Ditto! Although Alina looked extraordinary, she only appeared to have an edge over Iris in quad development. Her quad sweeps were unmatched by a long shot. History has proven that huge, thickly developed sweeping quads can dominate a bodybuilding show. However, Iris had better calves, and a better upper body overall, but Alina wasn’t too far off.
For Iris and Adela to compete next year, would be a daunting task. It's either retire now or be dethroned. Oksana is on top of her game and was focused on beating Adela. Alina is on top of her game and her only opposition is or was Iris. Iris literally handed her the throne by way of retirement, so prepare for Alina's reign.
What Iris has brought to the sport, aiding in its longevity, and winning 7 Ms. International titles along with 10 Ms. Olympia’s, is a remarkable feat. Nonetheless, what Alina could possibly bring to the stage next year and the years to come is unfathomable. She had absolutely no other competition but Iris. And for this, I simply don’t think Iris has enough in her tank to keep up with the machine that Alina is. Alina is on a mission and she is destined to be Ms. Olympia. With a physique that nearly parallels (and can actually surpass) Iris’s and has the facial beauty that she has, how could she not be the reigning Ms. Olympia in the years to come?
I remember just seeing Alina enter the sport of bodybuilding just a few years ago and to see her overshadow an icon like Yaxeni Oriquen-Garcia in every aspect on stage is mind blowing. The size difference and muscularity between the two is overwhelming. Alina knows exactly what she brought to the stage and she made it apparent in the pose-down. Not to mention, she exuded with a sense of confidence as she ignored all the girls on stage and challenged Iris throughout. She even made a reference to Iris, pointing at Iris’s legs, and challenging her to a comparison in leg development. Alina knew her legs were superior to Iris’s and wanted the audience and judges to bear witness to it.
As soon as Iris walked away and decided to pose next Alana Shipp on the opposite end, Alina chased her down and continued her challenge. Acknowledging Alina's size and conditioning, Iris showed her notable respect as she grabbed and passed her hand over Alina's quads and made a facial gesture, expressing her reverence.
That being said, props to Iris Kyle. I’m proud of her accomplishments.
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With all due respect Unicron, I think saying Iris would have eventually be dethroned in the coming years by Alina or whoever else is a huge overstatement. Iris is only 4 or 5 years older than Alina, it's not like Iris couldn't get better either.
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With all due respect Unicron, I think saying Iris would have eventually be dethroned in the coming years by Alina or whoever else is a huge overstatement. Iris is only 4 or 5 years older than Alina, it's not like Iris couldn't get better either.
You're absolutely right, Iris could get better, but Alina may not give her the opportunity to do so. Alina trains to beat Iris and has established herself both last year and this year to be a contender to Iris’s reign. Any improvement Iris makes, Alina will try to and possibly best her. In my opinion, I just don't think Iris has it both mentally, first, and physically, second, to endure much longer.
She has dominated the pro ranks for well over a decade and the wear and tear takes its toll on the mind and body. I really don’t believe Iris wants to live the remainder of her life as a bodybuilding monk. I say monk, because of the commitment and what it entails to be on her level for so many years. Her longevity is a remarkable feat in itself. Iris Kyle has long since been a legend.
Also, she has gone through a lot since her mother’s recent passing. Moreover, she has made bodybuilding history. No male has won as many professional titles as she has. So she really has nothing left to prove. 4-5 years makes a big difference and Iris has to work a bit harder and continue to abuse substances to keep it going. Whereas, Alina is up and coming in the pro ranks and is hungry. She sees or better yet, saw Iris as her only competition.
Perhaps, I may never see another woman dominate the IFBB in my lifetime like Iris has and I have been following women’s bodybuilding since 1992, but was introduced to it in the 80’s. Alina is essentially what Bev Francis was to Cory Everson and Laura Creavalle, Denise Rutkowsky, and Kim Chizevsky were to Lenda Murray. Many believed Denise beat Lenda in 1993, but was cheated the title of Ms. Olympia. Denise retired the year after. Many would argue that Laura blew Lenda out the box in 1994, but again, was never awarded the title. Unlike Denise, Laura remained tenacious in her efforts. She was by far Lenda’s biggest rival. Kim was determined to beat Lenda and did just that. In fact, Lenda retired after losing to Kim consecutively in 1996 and 1997. Lenda’s dominance was largely predicated on how well her legs were developed. Kim surpassed her and continued from there on.
One thing I’ve learned about bodybuilding is that legs can alter the tide in competitions. Every Ms. Olympia title holder has dominated the pro ranks with sweeping quads and great leg development and Alina has outdone Iris in the legs department. If Iris decided to continue competing, she would bring it to Alina no question, but with what Alina brought to the stage this year, the 2015 Ms. Olympia would be judged either subjectively or purely on minor flaws between the two women. The 2014 Ms. Olympia was an Iris Kyle and Alina Popa competition. While the other women looked great, there was hardly any competition in such a small lineup against the two.
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So the question really is: was this year a bigger travesty or was it last year? I can grudgingly accept last year's decision,
because maybe Alina spectacular condition took the judges by surprise. But there was no excuse this year.
Its Lenda Murray vs Laura Crevalle all over again.
I dunno if I agree. I think Alina came prepared, but Iris came prepared as well. Last year I would have had Alina edging out Iris, but this year, I think Iris just straight up won it. Last year I think there was some reticence to give it to Alina cause she didn't really establish the kind of superiority that you generally need to dethrone a reigning champ. She was better, for sure, but not so much better that it was impossible to deny. This year, I think Iris was just plain better and it pains me to say that because I'm not an Iris fan and I'm a raving Alina fan.
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Boo. Totally undeserved.
Is it truly undeserved? Or did you just wanna see Alina dethrone her?
All the Iris-haters can get their way next year. She announced her retirement from the sport last night. An Iris victory was never underserved, IMHO...
It is a pity that Iris is retiring, as love her or hate her, she is a great FBB, and unlike so many before her, she won on muscle rather than marketable fascial beauty. You may argue that that in itself has not helped the Ms O, as historically, the argument has been that fascial beauty was preferred to make the sport more acceptable to the public, but no one can deny that Iris won on muscle, and was fine fascially, but others could have been awarded the prize if the decider was fascial about perfection.
It's a pity that, like Cory, Kim etc, we are denied a true defeat through retirement, leaving Iris as undefeated. Great for her, but would have been amazing to see someone actually dethrone her.
Now any future winners, it will just feel like " Ok, well, who wants a go at the top, now then?" rather than proving they are the best.
The comparison photo#s show, Iris was the best up there, love the fact or hate it, Alina was outmuscled.
Happy returement Iris!
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Alina Popa conditioning was a joke. Compare her lower body, legs, especially quads, they were far worse than these of Debi Laszewski or Anne Freitas. Debi should have taken the 2nd position, that's for sure and she is the best white FBB, nowadays. A.Popa is taller, more handsome (in terms of presentation)for many, but I prefer Debi's physique which is complete, the same as Anne's.
I've never been a fan of black FBB's (not because of racism but because they are in privilileged situation in comparison to whites or Asians), but Iris is the best FBB of all time, absolute empress. There is a lot of good black FBB's too, for example Alana Shipp who looked very, very well. Margie Martin has great potential, too. But it is Monique Jones who can become the next Iris, she has everything, great posture (she is taller than Iris and Alina), great physique.
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And forgot about great Juanita Blaino, my favourite "ebony" FBB, next to Iris.
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From the camera, that doesn't lie (unless the lighting is bad!). Iris and Alina , the muscle tussle.
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I think the future belongs to Alina Popa, Alana Shipp and Margie Martin. Alana Shipp needs to grow and build some more muscle. Margie Martin needs better conditioning and she will become the new Iris Kyle. Right now Alina has the best package. I hope she will do more photo and video shootings. Seems like the Olympia pros hide from the photographers. I've rarely seen a picture from this years top three.
I would rather say, it is Monique Jones and Juanita Blaino who can beat A.Popa. D.Laszewski is the best white FBB for me, not Alina who looks too huge for me (Iris and other tall FBB's like Monique Jones are narrower, Alina is too wide).
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FBB Prejudging
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Without having the benefit being in Vegas but based on the pictures I would not have expected that Yaxeni would place that high at least Anne Freitas is better and also Sheila and Jennifer appear to be better.
Overall, again based on pictures alone, Debi gets my vote as the being the best/most improved bodybuilder. She surely seems to have improved compared to prior years where some other ladies including Iris are downsizing.
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Physique contest prejudge
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Overall, again based on pictures alone, Debi gets my vote as the being the best/most improved bodybuilder. She surely seems to have improved compared to prior years where some other ladies including Iris are downsizing.
I agree, but Jennifer Sedia is the probably the biggest surprise here. She had a pause and she returned in superb condition, she looks definietely better than in Tampa.
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Physique contest Show.
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Wow all the Iris apologists out in force this morning. Are you guys all on the IFBB bankroll? Iris was BETTER than Alina, you say?
Disregard the photos, the photos do not tell the story; go and watch the VIDEO of the final comparisons and posedown. I DARE
you to say after that that Iris was the better bodybuilder. Alina smoked her, most especially when it came to conditioning, where Alina was just
perfect. Iris's legs were weak, she had no abs, her conditioning was off; her upper body was out of balance with her lower
body. The only area where Iris was marginally better was from the back.
The video tells the whole story. Alina was the better fbb that day, plain and simple, and deserved to win the title.
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Wow all the Iris apologists out in force this morning. Are you guys all on the IFBB bankroll? Iris was BETTER than Alina, you say?
Disregard the photos, the photos do not tell the story; go and watch the VIDEO of the final comparisons and posedown. I DARE
you to say after that that Iris was the better bodybuilder. Alina smoked her, most especially when it came to conditioning, where Alina was just
perfect. Iris's legs were weak, she had no abs, her conditioning was off; her upper body was out of balance with her lower
body. The only area where Iris was marginally better was from the back.
The video tells the whole story. Alina was the better fbb that day, plain and simple, and deserved to win the title.
Calm down khuddle! Folks here have looked at the photo's, unless you were there, I doubt any of us can be sure. I like Alina too, but at the end of the day, Iris won. So folk here are starting to accept that, nothing anyone says can change the facts. Everyone can dare to say their opinion, and thanks we should give, for that.
Just shows what a job the judges have. And if it's politics, well, nothing we can do about that either. If Alina wins next year, or not, someone will not be pleased. And someone will. That's the world of FBB for you!
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FBB, Figure, even Bikini.
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Official score sheets.
Use competitor numbers to identify athletes in the pictures posted.
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Thks and K for the job, timmon. These pics from Team Andro and East Labs are excellent.
OdoHerr
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timmon, great job as always, man, huge thanks !!
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Thanks OdoHerr and Karharot, my pleasure, and great to have you enjoying the pics with me.
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One last comment on this, I see that Phil Heath won the Mr Olympia on Sunday for the fourth straight time. I have minimal interest in the
Mr Olympia, so I didn't look at the pics or vids to see if Phil was deserving or Kai got robbed, but one things seems apparent from both Mr
and Ms Olympia results: the IFBB loves dynasties. I mean, even a cursory examination of the history of both the male and female side of the
sport shows that to be true: Cory Everson 6 time Champion, Lenda Murray 8 time champion, Kim C. 4 time champion, Juliette Bergman 4 time chanpion
and Iris 10 time champion. There is obviously a notion within the IFBB that a multi time champion is going to sell bodybuilding supplements and products,
while a single time champion is not. So despite the superior shape you showed up in for the past two years, sorry Alina, you're outta luck, nothing gets
in the way of the Iris dynasty.
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One last comment on this, I see that Phil Heath won the Mr Olympia on Sunday for the fourth straight time. I have minimal interest in the
Mr Olympia, so I didn't look at the pics or vids to see if Phil was deserving or Kai got robbed, but one things seems apparent from both Mr
and Ms Olympia results: the IFBB loves dynasties. I mean, even a cursory examination of the history of both the male and female side of the
sport shows that to be true: Cory Everson 6 time Champion, Lenda Murray 8 time champion, Kim C. 4 time champion, Juliette Bergman 4 time chanpion
and Iris 10 time champion. There is obviously a notion within the IFBB that a multi time champion is going to sell bodybuilding supplements and products,
while a single time champion is not. So despite the superior shape you showed up in for the past two years, sorry Alina, you're outta luck, nothing gets
in the way of the Iris dynasty.
Yea Iris really sells the supplements, she's a veritable money tree for the IFBB. No way would the prettier white woman sell the product Iris sells. More sound thinking from saradas. ::)
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One last comment on this, I see that Phil Heath won the Mr Olympia on Sunday for the fourth straight time. I have minimal interest in the
Mr Olympia, so I didn't look at the pics or vids to see if Phil was deserving or Kai got robbed, but one things seems apparent from both Mr
and Ms Olympia results: the IFBB loves dynasties. I mean, even a cursory examination of the history of both the male and female side of the
sport shows that to be true: Cory Everson 6 time Champion, Lenda Murray 8 time champion, Kim C. 4 time champion, Juliette Bergman 4 time chanpion
and Iris 10 time champion. There is obviously a notion within the IFBB that a multi time champion is going to sell bodybuilding supplements and products,
while a single time champion is not. So despite the superior shape you showed up in for the past two years, sorry Alina, you're outta luck, nothing gets
in the way of the Iris dynasty.
Yea Iris really sells the supplements, she's a veritable money tree for the IFBB. No way would the prettier white woman sell the product Iris sells. More sound thinking from saradas. ::)
Haters gonna hate... ::)
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One last comment on this, I see that Phil Heath won the Mr Olympia on Sunday for the fourth straight time. I have minimal interest in the
Mr Olympia, so I didn't look at the pics or vids to see if Phil was deserving or Kai got robbed, but one things seems apparent from both Mr
and Ms Olympia results: the IFBB loves dynasties. I mean, even a cursory examination of the history of both the male and female side of the
sport shows that to be true: Cory Everson 6 time Champion, Lenda Murray 8 time champion, Kim C. 4 time champion, Juliette Bergman 4 time chanpion
and Iris 10 time champion. There is obviously a notion within the IFBB that a multi time champion is going to sell bodybuilding supplements and products,
while a single time champion is not. So despite the superior shape you showed up in for the past two years, sorry Alina, you're outta luck, nothing gets
in the way of the Iris dynasty.
Yea Iris really sells the supplements, she's a veritable money tree for the IFBB. No way would the prettier white woman sell the product Iris sells. More sound thinking from saradas. ::)
Alina Popa IS a prettier white woman; she's also a foreigner, a Romanian, with an accent that makes her sound like a distant relative of Count Dracula.
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Alina Popa IS a prettier white woman; she's also a foreigner, a Romanian, with an accent that makes her sound like a distant relative of Count Dracula.
Come on khuddle. I thought your previous comment was your last comment on this topic. Even if this post is only intended to reflect your disappointment in her not winning the Olympia, it's not cool.
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No question about it. It'll be the Iris show until she retires. Pisses me the fuck off
Told ya.
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Yea Iris really sells the supplements, she's a veritable money tree for the IFBB. No way would the prettier white woman sell the product Iris sells. More sound thinking from saradas. ::)
Could it be, that the reason the IFBB wont let alina win is because of her nude videos? Iris seems to be the only one not featured on the usual sites (herbiceps, ftw, awe etc).
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One last comment on this, I see that Phil Heath won the Mr Olympia on Sunday for the fourth straight time. I have minimal interest in the
Mr Olympia, so I didn't look at the pics or vids to see if Phil was deserving or Kai got robbed, but one things seems apparent from both Mr
and Ms Olympia results: the IFBB loves dynasties. I mean, even a cursory examination of the history of both the male and female side of the
sport shows that to be true: Cory Everson 6 time Champion, Lenda Murray 8 time champion, Kim C. 4 time champion, Juliette Bergman 4 time chanpion
and Iris 10 time champion. There is obviously a notion within the IFBB that a multi time champion is going to sell bodybuilding supplements and products,
while a single time champion is not. So despite the superior shape you showed up in for the past two years, sorry Alina, you're outta luck, nothing gets
in the way of the Iris dynasty.
Yea Iris really sells the supplements, she's a veritable money tree for the IFBB. No way would the prettier white woman sell the product Iris sells. More sound thinking from saradas. ::)
Alina Popa IS a prettier white woman; she's also a foreigner, a Romanian, with an accent that makes her sound like a distant relative of Count Dracula.
That's a valid point. But the belief that MANY on this forum has that the IFBB somehow has a wish to keep Iris as MsO forever is just nutty. For what possible reason? Iris wins every year because she shows up with the best body every year. End of story and she deserves credit instead of these delusional theories.
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Yea Iris really sells the supplements, she's a veritable money tree for the IFBB. No way would the prettier white woman sell the product Iris sells. More sound thinking from saradas. ::)
Could it be, that the reason the IFBB wont let alina win is because of her nude videos? Iris seems to be the only one not featured on the usual sites (herbiceps, ftw, awe etc).
What nude videos? The only nudes I've seen of Alina were from a Bill Dobbins shoot quite a few years back. Lenda Murray also did a couple of nude shoots I recall.
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One last comment on this, I see that Phil Heath won the Mr Olympia on Sunday for the fourth straight time. I have minimal interest in the
Mr Olympia, so I didn't look at the pics or vids to see if Phil was deserving or Kai got robbed, but one things seems apparent from both Mr
and Ms Olympia results: the IFBB loves dynasties. I mean, even a cursory examination of the history of both the male and female side of the
sport shows that to be true: Cory Everson 6 time Champion, Lenda Murray 8 time champion, Kim C. 4 time champion, Juliette Bergman 4 time chanpion
and Iris 10 time champion. There is obviously a notion within the IFBB that a multi time champion is going to sell bodybuilding supplements and products,
while a single time champion is not. So despite the superior shape you showed up in for the past two years, sorry Alina, you're outta luck, nothing gets
in the way of the Iris dynasty.
Yea Iris really sells the supplements, she's a veritable money tree for the IFBB. No way would the prettier white woman sell the product Iris sells. More sound thinking from saradas. ::)
Alina Popa IS a prettier white woman; she's also a foreigner, a Romanian, with an accent that makes her sound like a distant relative of Count Dracula.
That's a valid point. But the belief that MANY on this forum has that the IFBB somehow has a wish to keep Iris as MsO forever is just nutty. For what possible reason? Iris wins every year because she shows up with the best body every year. End of story and she deserves credit instead of these delusional theories.
I have no idea exactly what reasons the IFBB (Weider corp. promotional vehicle.) has for the dynasty theory but it has nothing to do with the best body on stage.
While Iris is highly muscled, she has some serious physique problems such as uneven Ab's, small calf muscles, small traps, and small pectorals(This is pretty common in women and why many get huge boob implants.). Not to mention a bad boob job. On the other hand she has incredible lats, good biceps and good thighs. One of the problems with the IFBB is its not a bodybuilding federation, its a Weider promotion vehicle, and as such it fails the women and the men for that matter. The IFBB does not work to find additional sponsors that would enable it to get better prize money, better advertising and to really put bodybuilding out there as a true sport with real etched in stone rules and standards.
There are so many problems with the IFBB, I don't see any way to fix it. We have seen the horrors of what the IFBB does to bodybuilding. A new true professional bodybuilding Federation needs to be created, but that takes money and for the moment no one is willing to put up the starting capitol.
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Have to agree Alina killed it no matter how you slice it. Even the in photos and virtually everyone commenting on the video footage agrees Alina smoked Iris. If we go by physique alone Alina was bigger overal with more fullness, separation, symmetry, shape and a more balanced complete package. Yes the upper bodies were closer but Alina clearly took front, abs and side chest...lower body and thigh sweep in particular she dominated.
Then on top of all that Alina's aesthetics/retention is second to none at that level. Iris' cheeks were severely depleted/hollowed whereas Alina was able to attain that level of superior mass and conditioning while still retaining the fullness in her face as well. IMO it was a slam dunk even moreso than last year..however, the problem as always is that it's a subjective process based on the criteria so there will always be some politics and differences of opinions.
I'd say the bigger underlying issue is that this is yet another serious blow to the entire WBB divison. With the situation being very tenuous as it is this only creates an even greater liability moving into next year. Having new mainstream network contracts on the line at this point Alina would have at least been a more favorable complete package in terms of representing the division. Whether planned or just a backfire this only stands to accelerate the process.
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WPD Finals
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I haven't seen any video yet, only the pictures here (and thanks to the posters for posting them) but all I can say is there's no way I could have picked a winner out of the top four contestants. Each of them has weaknesses and strengths but all of them look fantastic to me, and pretty competitive with finalists from any previous year I can remember. I understand the concerns about the longer term health of women's bodybuilding but for as long as the Ms Olympia lineup looks like that, reports of its death have been exaggerated ;D
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You know what the funny thing is? Even other female bodybuilders do not root for Iris Kyle! Perhaps it's jealousy, or perhaps they have more inside information than us fbb fans have. It seems the consensus is that Iris has done very little to help contribute to the sport of female bodybuilding; rather it was all about Iris. Yes, Iris always come in great shape. But to me, Alina has it all: great shape, symmetry, warm personality, gorgeous looks, and many female bodybuilders admire her. She's the kind of girl to really inspire other women to take up bodybuilding. I'm still trying to find ONE female bodybuilder who's inspired by Iris Kyle...
And about her having the most awards ever of any Olympian, keep in mind awards do not tell the whole story, especially when it comes down to judges' decisions. Take boxing for example, and how many atrocious decisions have been made due to politics. It seems bodybuilding is not that far off.
Anyway, the comments by other fbbs are very revealing:
Lenda Murray: Thank God. I'm sick of seeing her face. Dry personalty and she's done jack $!%÷ for the women. Tired of the iris Kyle show..nobody's buying tickets.
Kat Wildkat: Alina is not an IFBB puppet. That's why she didn't win. .. The physique speak clearly as to the true champion.
Melody Spetko: Never said any hate towards Iris... Do I think she is a poor rep?.. yes.. but that is cause she doesn't or didn't do anything EVER in her career for the sport... Not one time... She was asked a number of times to help... But NO.. Iris is about Iris... That is my beef with her... And that is the beef most the Fbb's have with her...
Oana Hreapca: that s how i saw to..big injustice....
Wendy McCready Totally agree Ifbb Pro Melody Spetko I too thought Alina had this & our sport would take a new fresh turn & be revived. Alina is someone who in my opinion represents us as the ideal figurehead we can all look up to & be proud to call her our champion. Thanks Mel for all updates x
Theresa Ivancik: Agreed Alina represents female bodybuilding!! I don't know what Iris is?!?
Anyway, Alina has to win next year! Let the reign of Alina begin! Until she wins too much, of course ;-P
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You know what the funny thing is? Even other female bodybuilders do not root for Iris Kyle! Perhaps it's jealousy, or perhaps they have more inside information than us fbb fans have. It seems the consensus is that Iris has done very little to help contribute to the sport of female bodybuilding; rather it was all about Iris. Yes, Iris always come in great shape. But to me, Alina has it all: great shape, symmetry, warm personality, gorgeous looks, and many female bodybuilders admire her. She's the kind of girl to really inspire other women to take up bodybuilding. I'm still trying to find ONE female bodybuilder who's inspired by Iris Kyle...
And about her having the most awards ever of any Olympian, keep in mind awards do not tell the whole story, especially when it comes down to judges' decisions. Take boxing for example, and how many atrocious decisions have been made due to politics. It seems bodybuilding is not that far off.
Anyway, the comments by other fbbs are very revealing:
Lenda Murray: Thank God. I'm sick of seeing her face. Dry personalty and she's done jack $!%÷ for the women. Tired of the iris Kyle show..nobody's buying tickets.
Kat Wildkat: Alina is not an IFBB puppet. That's why she didn't win. .. The physique speak clearly as to the true champion.
Melody Spetko: Never said any hate towards Iris... Do I think she is a poor rep?.. yes.. but that is cause she doesn't or didn't do anything EVER in her career for the sport... Not one time... She was asked a number of times to help... But NO.. Iris is about Iris... That is my beef with her... And that is the beef most the Fbb's have with her...
Oana Hreapca: that s how i saw to..big injustice....
Wendy McCready Totally agree Ifbb Pro Melody Spetko I too thought Alina had this & our sport would take a new fresh turn & be revived. Alina is someone who in my opinion represents us as the ideal figurehead we can all look up to & be proud to call her our champion. Thanks Mel for all updates x
Theresa Ivancik: Agreed Alina represents female bodybuilding!! I don't know what Iris is?!?
Anyway, Alina has to win next year! Let the reign of Alina begin! Until she wins too much, of course ;-P
Could you post some links to these quotes? These are inflammatory bombshells and should be substantiated. Thanks in advance.
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You know what the funny thing is? Even other female bodybuilders do not root for Iris Kyle! Perhaps it's jealousy, or perhaps they have more inside information than us fbb fans have. It seems the consensus is that Iris has done very little to help contribute to the sport of female bodybuilding; rather it was all about Iris. Yes, Iris always come in great shape. But to me, Alina has it all: great shape, symmetry, warm personality, gorgeous looks, and many female bodybuilders admire her. She's the kind of girl to really inspire other women to take up bodybuilding. I'm still trying to find ONE female bodybuilder who's inspired by Iris Kyle...
And about her having the most awards ever of any Olympian, keep in mind awards do not tell the whole story, especially when it comes down to judges' decisions. Take boxing for example, and how many atrocious decisions have been made due to politics. It seems bodybuilding is not that far off.
Anyway, the comments by other fbbs are very revealing:
Lenda Murray: Thank God. I'm sick of seeing her face. Dry personalty and she's done jack $!%÷ for the women. Tired of the iris Kyle show..nobody's buying tickets.
Kat Wildkat: Alina is not an IFBB puppet. That's why she didn't win. .. The physique speak clearly as to the true champion.
Melody Spetko: Never said any hate towards Iris... Do I think she is a poor rep?.. yes.. but that is cause she doesn't or didn't do anything EVER in her career for the sport... Not one time... She was asked a number of times to help... But NO.. Iris is about Iris... That is my beef with her... And that is the beef most the Fbb's have with her...
Oana Hreapca: that s how i saw to..big injustice....
Wendy McCready Totally agree Ifbb Pro Melody Spetko I too thought Alina had this & our sport would take a new fresh turn & be revived. Alina is someone who in my opinion represents us as the ideal figurehead we can all look up to & be proud to call her our champion. Thanks Mel for all updates x
Theresa Ivancik: Agreed Alina represents female bodybuilding!! I don't know what Iris is?!?
Anyway, Alina has to win next year! Let the reign of Alina begin! Until she wins too much, of course ;-P
Could you post some links to these quotes? These are inflammatory bombshells and should be substantiated. Thanks in advance.
It's all on the social network. Melody's page specifically. Melody is very active on there and very outspoken, candid, and very importantly, interactive with other female bodybuilders.
I've continued to think about why Iris doesn't get much respect from well known female bodybuilders, and why Alina, on the opposite end, is very revered. At first I thought maybe it was jealousy of Iris and, quite frankly, I'm sure that plays a significant part. But considering the comments from other fbbs, and the fact they are voicing it on a medium where many other female bodybuilders can see as well, it is as if they truly, sincerely endorse, revere and, above all, RESPECT Alina Popa and choose her as THE ambassador/rep of female bodybuilding. Even though they all compete against each other, they are all coming together to unite behind Alina as their de facto leader.
It's as if they're saying, "I don't care if I don't win, I just want Alina to take first place." And I'm with them. Quite honestly, I think the retirement of Iris Kyle is one of the best things to happen in female bodybuilding in a long time. We shall see what happens next year. At least there will be a NEW Ms. Olympia, and there is actually SOME suspense as to who will win lol.
I've also found maybe three female bodybuilders who seem to sincerely respect Iris Kyle, and they are Vera Mikulcova, Eulalia Santos, and Sherry Smith (evidence taken from Iris Kyle's page). Maybe Helle Nielsen too. Rene Marven seems partial too. But, wow, just to compare the thoughts from other fbbs between Alina and Iris is just very, very revealing. I'm sure the fbbs respect Iris's physique (I do too, actually). But they surely don't seem to care for her character, or what she has done to help female bodybuilding.
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Found some more pro-Alina comments:
Aleesha Young: A pic is worth a million words Alina completely dominated and is so much better for the sport
Megan Jennifer Abshire: Oh that's bull shit! Wonder why Fbb is going down hill with iris up there! Blah ! I been disappointed I didn't go this year cause of this! Alina is the champ ! In everyone eyes!
Lisa Cross: I didn't even think it was close this year very disappointed. I have not seen one positive comment about this result.
Even a well known photographer chimed in: "Alina all the way,i hate politics" Tom Millard
Still trying to find a comment where an fbb says Iris is good for the sport. This could take a while....
By the way, everyone NEEDS TO STOP saying this is the last Ms. Olympia. When Debbie Bramwell asked Melody if it was the last, she replied: "Trust me... Wings and I would know about this.... As it stands we are doing more shows in 2015.. Don't believe everything you read... This is what hurts us..the gossip..."
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** with the smuggest, "I told you so" expression on my face ** And where are the Iris apologists now?
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One more thing. I'm not so crazy about the fact that because people LIKE Alina Popa more they think she is deserving of first place.
"Liking" has nothing to do with a result in sport. Lance Armstrong is by all accounts a jerk in real life, and is not liked by his peers.
Does that mean we should strip him of all his Tour de France titles? Ted Williams was notorious for being rude to fans and being an
all around jerk. So should we omit him from discussions about greatest baseball players of all time? Alina should have won this past
Ms O based on her superior physique. PERIOD. Her "warm personality", her popularity among her peers and the public, her generous
donations to charities, whatever, have nothing to do with it.
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One more thing. I'm not so crazy about the fact that because people LIKE Alina Popa more they think she is deserving of first place.
"Liking" has nothing to do with a result in sport. Lance Armstrong is by all accounts a jerk in real life, and is not liked by his peers.
Does that mean we should strip him of all his Tour de France titles? Ted Williams was notorious for being rude to fans and being an
all around jerk. So should we omit him from discussions about greatest baseball players of all time? Alina should have won this past
Ms O based on her superior physique. PERIOD. Her "warm personality", her popularity among her peers and the public, her generous
donations to charities, whatever, have nothing to do with it.
Last I checked, Lance Armstrong was stripped of his Tour de France titles because of his admitted drug use, nothing to do with his personality.
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My point is you may not like "jerk star athletes" like Barry Bonds, Jeff Gordon, Ted Williams and, according to a large
segment of the fbb community, Iris Kyle, but just because they are jerks and you don't like them doesn't take away
from their athletic accomplishments.
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My point is you may not like "jerk star athletes" like Barry Bonds, Jeff Gordon, Ted Williams and, according to a large
segment of the fbb community, Iris Kyle, but just because they are jerks and you don't like them doesn't take away
from their athletic accomplishments.
Wow! Iris Kyle is not only an undeserving champion who but now she's a jerk. Might be time for you to get some fresh air.
:-[
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There is another thought on the Dynasty Theory that mite have already been mentioned but I think deserves further mention and that is the Dynasty Theory mite actually be a way to discourage competitors as with no chance to win many will just skip the contests.
Now many of you will go, "what does the IFBB and Weider group gain by discouraging competitors?". Think about it for a moment, with fewer contestants, their chosen competitors get more time in the lime light and therefor are better at selling product. And think about it from another stand point, fewer competitors mean fewer people who could sell products for other companies. Now those are I couple of Ideas I thought of, they may have entirely different stupid ideas why they do things.
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My point is you may not like "jerk star athletes" like Barry Bonds, Jeff Gordon, Ted Williams and, according to a large
segment of the fbb community, Iris Kyle, but just because they are jerks and you don't like them doesn't take away
from their athletic accomplishments.
I would have to agree with this. Unfortunately in today's social media climate many people need to like your personality, your religious beliefs, your opinion on politics, etc. And only then will they appreciate your accomplishments.
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You know what the funny thing is? Even other female bodybuilders do not root for Iris Kyle! Perhaps it's jealousy, or perhaps they have more inside information than us fbb fans have. It seems the consensus is that Iris has done very little to help contribute to the sport of female bodybuilding; rather it was all about Iris. Yes, Iris always come in great shape. But to me, Alina has it all: great shape, symmetry, warm personality, gorgeous looks, and many female bodybuilders admire her. She's the kind of girl to really inspire other women to take up bodybuilding. I'm still trying to find ONE female bodybuilder who's inspired by Iris Kyle...
And about her having the most awards ever of any Olympian, keep in mind awards do not tell the whole story, especially when it comes down to judges' decisions. Take boxing for example, and how many atrocious decisions have been made due to politics. It seems bodybuilding is not that far off.
Anyway, the comments by other fbbs are very revealing:
Lenda Murray: Thank God. I'm sick of seeing her face. Dry personalty and she's done jack $!%÷ for the women. Tired of the iris Kyle show..nobody's buying tickets.
Kat Wildkat: Alina is not an IFBB puppet. That's why she didn't win. .. The physique speak clearly as to the true champion.
Melody Spetko: Never said any hate towards Iris... Do I think she is a poor rep?.. yes.. but that is cause she doesn't or didn't do anything EVER in her career for the sport... Not one time... She was asked a number of times to help... But NO.. Iris is about Iris... That is my beef with her... And that is the beef most the Fbb's have with her...
Oana Hreapca: that s how i saw to..big injustice....
Wendy McCready Totally agree Ifbb Pro Melody Spetko I too thought Alina had this & our sport would take a new fresh turn & be revived. Alina is someone who in my opinion represents us as the ideal figurehead we can all look up to & be proud to call her our champion. Thanks Mel for all updates x
Theresa Ivancik: Agreed Alina represents female bodybuilding!! I don't know what Iris is?!?
Anyway, Alina has to win next year! Let the reign of Alina begin! Until she wins too much, of course ;-P
I'd say this^ pretty much says everything. And it's not that this is necessarily the last year for the O, it's just that having Iris in that position again only stands to accelerate the process, which in many ways is even worse. Why? Well, let's break it down..
To a large degree that position = "the ambassador" who sets and represents the standard for that given division. While Iris' conditioning is solid unfortunately she's also literally a mainstream sponsor and network repellent. The vast majority of females will simply never look at her and aspire to that level. Basically, Iris turns-off more women to running out to purchase supps or embark on the hardcore training it takes to attain that level, while with Alina that's much less the case. Motives for keeping Iris in that position? Likely the same objective that's already been in place for over a decade...to continue dwindling down the numbers in that division. Point blank, WBB is currently structured to consume itself, and it's a double edged sword. They don't want it but they don't want anyone else having it either. If they just dropped it then it will move into the extreme niche and likely take longer to fade..whereas if they keep it then they can control it and phase it out more rapidly.
As far as just starting-up another federation that could come close to competing with the IFBB wouldn't happen overnight even under the best scenario. And again with the current structure it would still be pigeonholed into the extreme fbb niche which is very limited. Without being able to attract large #s of females like the 1000's flowing into the other divisions WBB will continue to stagnate and decline. So that's why the mainstream market is needed, BUT at the same time WBB is prohibitively un-friendly in that market, therein lies the dilemma.
On top of that, WBB is becoming increasingly vulnerable. With the large market media now having a growing vested interest in the other 4 new divisions WBB is becoming an even greater liability they don't want any part of. Remember how much the Bryant Gumbel piece exposed which already had a huge negative impact, and they could have a literal field day with similar attacks at this point.
Other aspects to consider:
*The majority of current pro level fbbs left are 35+ and getting close to retirement, it's almost a "masters division" as it is now.
*The primary feeder division (ammy fbb) has already been eliminated.
*It takes a good half decade or more to attain that level of development.
*Of those left who can are funneling into the other divisions which are becoming more and more viable.
The incentives that were once there are now gone. When the WBB division was the only game in town a greater number of women could be attracted to getting into it. Also back then it wasn't really known how things would progress or what the negative fallout would be. At this point there are too many better options with more benefits/rewards and far less sacrifice, health risks and expenses.
Bottom line is that the markets dictate everything. Under the current format/structure the IFBB really had no other choice...however, there's also no question Iris has been an accelerant over the past decade. Problem is they still don't have the formula and neither does the extreme niche...or it would have already been utilized. Does that mean it can't ever happen? Absolutely not. Things can be turned around and we've developed a formula that will work 100%. The R&D has already been done...but, like I said before it will take some other things getting established first.
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** with the smuggest, "I told you so" expression on my face ** And where are the Iris apologists now?
It's yesterday's news. Iris won, most people are starting to live with it, just like they live with every Ms O decision. Iris is retired, and the rest is history.
Yaxini is no longer a threat to the top athletes.
Roll on next year. More important, how are the IFBB going to encourage new blood, like Alana Shipp, to rejuvinate the line up? Apart from Alana, not a particularly interesting Ms O FBB contest this year.
By the way, anyone actually notice there was a great WPP line up? DLB was defeated! Year 2 of WPP Ms O was good.
Many congrats to Juliana Malacarne, your new winner, up from 7th last year!
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Juliana Malarcane is a well deserved winner of WP. Beautiful woman.
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The thing I have to wonder is what - exactly - did they want Iris to *do* for the sport?
We ( = the 'rest of us', including fans, other competitors, media, judges, etc) spend so much time trying to make physique athletes do what we want them to do and to become what we want. I'm a fan, photographer, and video producer and having physique models pose for my camera is how I earn my living. So, I often direct them on how to pose instead of just letting them do what they want when the camera is rolling. Sure there are plenty of women who want to flex for us fans. But more often than not, I believe we're the ones making those requests in person.
I've been a bodybuilding fan for decades and have never seen anyone - male or female - who truly carried the banner for the sport OUTSIDE of the sport and its culture. Iris is very quiet. If there's been a significant amount of self-promotion on her part, I've never seen it. Does she even have a Facebook account?
I love Alina and she was robbed this time around. I hope she'll get her just reward a year from now as long as she's ready, but I can't hate on Iris for accepting a gift that was handed to her. Any criticism for that decision should be heaped solely upon the judges, not the athletes.
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Without question the heat that Iris has been getting is unwarranted, it's not her fault or any of the other athletes for that matter. In fact, there's been a lot of misplaced anger and finger pointing going on for years now with this entire situation. Who's to blame? Many are saying the judges and the IFBB which I'd say is partially true, but even they are still extremely limited by the guidelines and how things are structured. Unfortunately, Iris is also highly limited by her own standard in terms of what she can do outside the sport, and on the inside her reluctance to participate due to the sexual/stigmatized associations is also understandable.
At the end of the day, in order to succeed and thrive outside in the mainstream arena WBB must first be structured in a way to make that feasible. The same thing applies to the hardcore niche where currently even all the photo/video sites are still geared towards the niche market exclusively. While that's great for the hardcore fans the average John and Jane Q public still aren't being attracted to it or purchasing any memberships. That's a huge demographic audience that's not being tapped into or influenced in a positive way to promote WBB growth outside that market. Not only would that turn things back around in terms of growing numbers but also how the women are viewed at that level, which then in-turn also puts the fans of WBB in a much more positive light. It's all interconnected.
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Without question the heat that Iris has been getting is unwarranted, it's not her fault or any of the other athletes for that matter. ....snip....
I have to agree Iris is not the problem with Female Bodybuilding, nor for the most part the women, other than they should have stepped up to confront the IFBB, Weider Group, and the other powers that be in the bodybuilding realm and demanded a set of real rules etched in stone of what a muscular body should look like.
These rules should take into account all factors including the fact women and men need differing levels of body fat to be healthy and over dieting to the same levels as men is not safe for a woman, so a slightly softer look has to be set for women. Kina more like cut/ripped is good, shredded is not. Things like bloated guts, cottage cheese thighs are definitely not bodybuilding. Now I'm not talking limiting muscle growth, other than to the levels their individual frame will aesthetically take. And that's another serious point, bodybuilding is about aesthetics, symmetry, shape, etc. just as much as shear muscle mass.
I think the powers that be just don't get what a muscular body should look like any more(The winner of the Mr Olympia is a prime example, he has a lot of bulk but looks like shit, no aesthetics, no symmetry, no shape, but he does have an uneven bloated gut with an alien creature ripping out his belly button. I can't believe former champion bodybuilders, like Arnold for one, are not on the talk show circuit ripping the IFBB a new one.) Maybe the powers that be in the bodybuilding world never did have any idea what a muscular body should look like, but things did seem to be better up until the mid 90's or so. I remember things like TV coverage, advertising featuring FBB's, etc.
Since Iris has said she is retiring, if there is a Female bodybuilding section at the Olympia next year we will have to see what happens. Though my guess is it will be twigagories only.
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I agree that Alina should have won this year and not Iris - it was a lot more clear cut than last year.
I also think Candice Keene got robbed in the Figure division this year.
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Wow all the Iris apologists out in force this morning. Are you guys all on the IFBB bankroll? Iris was BETTER than Alina, you say?
Disregard the photos, the photos do not tell the story; go and watch the VIDEO of the final comparisons and posedown. I DARE
you to say after that that Iris was the better bodybuilder. Alina smoked her, most especially when it came to conditioning, where Alina was just
perfect. Iris's legs were weak, she had no abs, her conditioning was off; her upper body was out of balance with her lower
body. The only area where Iris was marginally better was from the back.
The video tells the whole story. Alina was the better fbb that day, plain and simple, and deserved to win the title.
:clap: :clap: :clap:
Once again, Iris is an amazing athlete and I admire her accomplishments, but I think her final victory and the end of her reign was intended to end the way it did. I have to admit, Debi did look sharp, but I justify that by her veteran experience. She's been active since the late 80's/early 90's and has a different approach to conditioning than Alina does.
Alina's legs. :wow:
(http://s18.postimg.cc/bd2kkalhh/3a20e144d7eaaef8d99fc87e286e8cf6.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/bd2kkalhh/)
The video shows how Alina kept challenging Iris in the posedown to compare legs. Alina made it apparent that she knew her legs were better and wanted the judges and audience to bear witness to that. Iris avoided her after the first challenge and walked to the opposite end. Alina paid no attention to the other women. Debi didn't seem to be much of a threat to her. She just focused on Iris. Perhaps her goal was to dethrone Iris before her retirement. Regardless, the judges had long since made their decisions on who would be the victor.
Karma to timmon. Thanks for the uploads.
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"Perhaps her goal was to dethrone Iris before her retirement."
You think?
"Regardless, the judges had long since made their decisions on who would be the victor."
And that, my friends, has been the problem with women's professional bodybuilding for the last ten years.
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Yeah, how Ruth got into commenting on bodybuilding is a mystery, in this clip it looks like Robyn is being interviewed by someone's grandmother. ::)
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Yeah, how Ruth got into commenting on bodybuilding is a mystery, in this clip it looks like Robyn is being interviewed by someone's grandmother. ::)
Her name is Ruth Silverman she writes for Ironman magaizine. Now why they choose her to be a reporter on a bodybuilding mag I have no idea what so ever. She has a pump and circumstance blog (http://www.ironmanmagazine.com/blog/ruth/) on Ironmans web site, I have no idea about the mag these days as no place I goto regular sells it anymore. As I recall the last time I did see the mag it was like $6.96 or something? $6.95 is way too much for a mag, these fools just don't get that the price of the mag should be a token and the advertising be what pays for writers, paper, ink, utilities, etc. Of course this is a problem with most mags, newspapers these days brain damaged twits running the show and not understanding how to run a publication. I still get a bunch of free paper mags in the mail and lots of e-mail ones as there are still a few publishers that still get the idea that advertising should pay the bills not the readers.
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Womens Physique
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Sabrina Taylor
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What's the latest on the survival of women's BB at the Ms. Olympia, or the Ms. O. as a whole?
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What's the latest on the survival of women's BB at the Ms. Olympia, or the Ms. O. as a whole?
There will be no Ms. Olympia in 2015. The IFBB Rising Phoenix in San Antonio will be this year's women's World Championship event.