Canada crackdown latest

[showmesara]

No Immigration dept is sensible. Agreed the lost revenue is small. As for lawsuits which FBB is going to spend 25+K on a lawyer, answer zero.

Hope Gayle is an isolated incident. Some of these ladies advertise on Backpage as well and this might be a the cross reference that Immigration can most easily use. If immigration is on to WB 270 and others then european FBB are going to have a harder time getting into the USA.

Again hopefully Gayle was isolated. Eventually everyone gets hassled at any border

[lolu]

Its not as though you see 1000's (or any, for that matter, well, maybe Cory, but that's all) millionaire female bodybuilders fleecing nations out of $Millions of taxes every year - I wouldn't be surprised if the TOTAL amount of taxes lost (assuming they were due) is likely under $100k per year, if that, given that the session providers could legitimately take off all expenses (flights, food, hotel bills, gym bills, special clothing for the sessions, taxis, etc, etc) from the amounts charged, then only be taxed on the profits.  What a waste of their tax offices'/immigration staff's time - just for 30 or so individuals a year who don't live the life of Riley on yachts or in huge Beverly Hills pads.  They're just an easy target - the daft thing is that though sales taxes I bet Canada would make more money from these women's short visits through the money they spend on expenses during their stay than if they never visited at all, or the difference between "enforcement" costs and revenue gain if they did get work permits/visas.

And besides, I thought most nations only take income taxes from people who are predominantly based in that nation (in this case Canadians) for more than X weeks per year - this is why people often go to work abroad in (say) Dubai, Abu Dhabi or the UAE, where taxes are very low.  Please correct me if I'm wrong, but many countries don't require Sportsmen and women to have work permits for brief visits for tournaments (different for team players like football [soccer] playing for a team abroad, where they would and would also pay taxes there) or pay income tax - its the reason why Formula 1 racing drivers have their homes in Monaco.

Typical bureaucratic nonsense, when I'm sure many hundreds of thousands of criminals slip through their systems (as they do in the UK) and cost the Canadian nation far more money in lost taxes - maybe they should concentrate on them instead.  Of course, not all (probably most don't) session providers engage in sex as well, so the Canadian authorities can hardly say the actions of a few "encourages prostitution" when up against an industry likely 100s if not 1000s the size (and far more seedy and criminal than sessions are [a few well-publicised rip-off merchants notwithstanding]).  How sad.

right on!

[crazycrazy]

I just want to make two comments as corrections of the previous posts regarding lost taxes to be collected by Revenue Canada, and regarding prostitution. First, the exclusiion of illegal aliens from Canada has nothing to do with taxes. If I tried to enter the US or the UK and said I intended to work there, I would be sent out too. Think of it- millions of people try to enter these countries to work. If they promised to pay taxes, they would still be excluded.

Second, the Supreme Court of Canada has ruled that prostitution iis not illegal. Foreigners working without work visas. That's illegal.

[UK_Fan]

I just want to make two comments as corrections of the previous posts regarding lost taxes to be collected by Revenue Canada, and regarding prostitution. First, the exclusiion of illegal aliens from Canada has nothing to do with taxes. If I tried to enter the US or the UK and said I intended to work there, I would be sent out too. Think of it- millions of people try to enter these countries to work. If they promised to pay taxes, they would still be excluded.

Second, the Supreme Court of Canada has ruled that prostitution iis not illegal. Foreigners working without work visas. That's illegal.

I wonder then if it would pay(pardon the pun) for the session providers to get a work visa.  Its not like they would disallow all people coming from abroad for jobs (even short term ones) that could be used in/as a cover for sexual activities (models, massage, au-pairs, personal assistants, dancers, even strippers, etc). Presumably they turn a blind eye to porn models and actors, who probably make much more money (though probably not as much as before the rise of the internet), which sounds rather daft.

There's a TV series about Canadian border controls on TV in the UK at the moment (forgot to watch it tonight) on Pick TV - I'll keep an eye out for any "interesting" developments if they occur.

[crazycrazy]

I'd love to see the episode where the rookie is assigned to read the wb and tries a high risk takedown of a female wrestler entering the country illegally

[LilRed]

UK Fan, Thank you for saying everything I was thinking so well. B :bravo:ravo!!!!!

[Polite Society]

No Immigration dept is sensible. Agreed the lost revenue is small. As for lawsuits which FBB is going to spend 25+K on a lawyer, answer zero.

Hope Gayle is an isolated incident. Some of these ladies advertise on Backpage as well and this might be a the cross reference that Immigration can most easily use. If immigration is on to WB 270 and others then european FBB are going to have a harder time getting into the USA.

Again hopefully Gayle was isolated. Eventually everyone gets hassled at any border

  You've got zero grasp of the situation if you think it's an isolated incident. It's a crackdown however you slice it.

[srmongoaurelio]

So if Canadian authorities know the agenda of FBBs better than anybody else, they could run a website like wb270, charge a fee to the wrestlers, then offset the lost income in taxes and stop bothering them. You don't see a business only when you don't want to.

this is why people often go to work abroad in (say) Dubai, Abu Dhabi or the UAE, where taxes are very low.  Please correct me if I'm wrong,

Not at all wrong, just a bit redundant. Dubai and Abu Dhabi are indeed a (main) part of the UAE.

[crazycrazy]

 Senor Mongo Aurelio: you have a great name! But I just want to reiterate that this crackdown has nothing to do with taxes. Working without a permit is illegal whether one pays taxes on the earnings or not. If I were a bankrobber, and I declared my stolen funds as income to Revenue Canada, and paid the taxes assessed on those earnings, would the police consider my bankrobbing to be legal? Of course not. The reason the wrestlers are not permitted to enter Canada to work is they have no permits. No one will apply for these permits as the paperwork is probably too burdensome given the duration of the visit, and the amount of money exchanged. The purpose of the law is to protect jobs for Canadian workers.  Canadian women are permitted to wrestle. I doubt any of them declare their income.

[racyc]

I'd love to see the episode where the rookie is assigned to read the wb and tries a high risk takedown of a female wrestler entering the country illegally

LOL, I was going to make a similar comment, just picturing an immigration agent perusing 'wb270' and 'sessiongirls'...they're probably giving equal attention to the various 'escort' websites I reckon 

I suppose the best the girls can do now would be to travel to a border town and invite the Canuck gents to come spend their $$$ in the USA 

[lee092760]

It is what it is. Unless there are changes, women outside Canada will not take a chance on coming in. It doesn't help the situation when we have a site like this that members use the actual names of women who do use aliases. Guys asking if she gives Full service, etc. If you think that agents just look on wb270 or Sessiongirls? They look through here just as much. There needs to be way more discression on here, but it might be too late at this point. So the next time someone asks if she does FS, think of the big picture. Ask them yourself if you want to know.

[e_honda]

If you think that agents just look on wb270 or Sessiongirls? They look through here just as much. There needs to be way more discression on here, but it might be too late at this point. So the next time someone asks if she does FS, think of the big picture. Ask them yourself if you want to know.

Very well put. Not too long ago, people would complain about why women would bother using aliases, why they would go to the trouble of going utr. Well now we know why they might want to be discrete.

[hwillish]

  Excellent Point!!!  Discretion is a virtue>>>

 

[smithgpost]

I think what upsets me most is that 1) the law gets enforced so extremely strictly and that 2) a lot of states have the technical tools and willingness to do so! The times are over in which governments except some form of disobedience and cut their citizens some slack. These fbbs are a really small minority (unfortunately!), they fulfill a service that enough Canadian citizens requests and in the grand scale I can really see no harm, it's a win-win. I am really surprised that the authorities make such an effort. It seems utterly disproportional to me. But on the other hands, so many things these days are disproportional!

[racyc]

I think what upsets me most is that 1) the law gets enforced so extremely strictly and that 2) a lot of states have the technical tools and willingness to do so! The times are over in which governments except some form of disobedience and cut their citizens some slack. These fbbs are a really small minority (unfortunately!), they fulfill a service that enough Canadian citizens requests and in the grand scale I can really see no harm, it's a win-win. I am really surprised that the authorities make such an effort. It seems utterly disproportional to me. But on the other hands, so many things these days are disproportional!

I'd like to think maybe it's just one hater with a little power and decides to single out fbb's. Maybe they'll get a different job someday. Or maybe they're being hardassed about session gals because they're afraid to turn away people wearing turbans, etc. and need to make their quota of stopping people at the border. What better group to discriminate against than women who can't fight back against this discrimination. Meanwhile, I'm sure the stretches of the US/Canada border unmonitored and unmanned where people can just walk over as exposed on 60 minutes a few years is mostly unchanged.