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Title: Who's the biggest of all time - height to weight ratio in off-season?
Post by: flexomatic on August 07, 2019, 04:50:37 pm
I'm not a stats geek of FBB - and photos and videos are often deceiving depending on lens choice, zoom, distance etc.

But there's one telling ratio: height:weight (off-season).

A 6 foot  fbb is impressive at 200 lbs. but imagine that weight packed onto a 5'5" frame.

Does anyone know who had the most amazing weight to height ratio?
Title: Re: Who's the biggest of all time - height to weight ratio in off-season?
Post by: stratos on August 10, 2019, 09:10:14 am
The Biggest one I can think of off the top (from legit resources and not hearsay)-Christine Envall 5 3' at 209
Title: Re: Who's the biggest of all time - height to weight ratio in off-season?
Post by: flexomatic on August 10, 2019, 02:51:34 pm
The Biggest one I can think of off the top (from legit resources and not hearsay)-Christine Envall 5 3' at 209

Ah yes! That seems about right :) What she lacked in height she made up for in width! :)
I really can't think of any fbb with wider lats...
Title: Re: Who's the biggest of all time - height to weight ratio in off-season?
Post by: kevin1 on August 11, 2019, 01:08:30 am

I nominate Tina Zampa.

I'm not sure what her stats are but in her latest clips from clips4sale she is thicker than any fbber I have ever seen.

https://www.clips4sale.com/studio/18433/tina-s-muscle-clips
 :wow:
Title: Re: Who's the biggest of all time - height to weight ratio in off-season?
Post by: necro2080 on August 11, 2019, 12:07:19 pm
Nataliya Kuznetsova Amazonka is 220 lb and 5' 7''.
Title: Re: Who's the biggest of all time - height to weight ratio in off-season?
Post by: flexomatic on August 13, 2019, 07:17:35 am
Nataliya Kuznetsova Amazonka is 220 lb and 5' 7''.

She's in her own league though :)

And 5'7" is pretty tall already.

Who's the smallest with the highest weight? Christine Envall seems to be at the top.

here's the formula: just divide weight/height.

Amazonka has 0.58+
Christine has 0.59+

pretty close win for Christine.

PS: for easy calculation, convert to kg/cm! :)
Title: Re: Who's the biggest of all time - height to weight ratio in off-season?
Post by: birmi482 on August 13, 2019, 08:07:52 am
In terms of height/weight probably Tina Zampa, her value would be at the top. Nataliya is in her own league when it comes to muscle definition and pumped veins when offseason as she usually has always good definition with visibly pumped up veins even at 220-225 pounds weight, much more than Christine Envall or Tina Zampa when at their offseason biggest
Title: Re: Who's the biggest of all time - height to weight ratio in off-season?
Post by: stratos on August 13, 2019, 09:56:41 pm
In terms of height/weight probably Tina Zampa, her value would be at the top. Nataliya is in her own league when it comes to muscle definition and pumped veins when offseason as she usually has always good definition with visibly pumped up veins even at 220-225 pounds weight, much more than Christine Envall or Tina Zampa when at their offseason biggest

Respect, but if we are going strictly by the numbers/stats and not by how big they look as the threadstarter intended, Tina comes up short against Christine.  Tina even in her humongous size that she has been in the last couple years was 205 lbs at her heaviest and she is 5 5', Christine was 209 at 5 3'.  Like I said I'm going strictly by what the fbb said herself or a video (meet Christine the futuristic woman-ironbelles), but who knows if any of these women went extremely high in their weight in the offseason and just never took photos or videos of themselves (many feel fat in the offseason don't like to show themselves looking fat-which is personally my favorite look)
Title: Re: Who's the biggest of all time - height to weight ratio in off-season?
Post by: flexomatic on August 17, 2019, 11:18:13 pm
In terms of height/weight probably Tina Zampa, her value would be at the top. Nataliya is in her own league when it comes to muscle definition and pumped veins when offseason as she usually has always good definition with visibly pumped up veins even at 220-225 pounds weight, much more than Christine Envall or Tina Zampa when at their offseason biggest

Respect, but if we are going strictly by the numbers/stats and not by how big they look as the threadstarter intended, Tina comes up short against Christine.  Tina even in her humongous size that she has been in the last couple years was 205 lbs at her heaviest and she is 5 5', Christine was 209 at 5 3'.  Like I said I'm going strictly by what the fbb said herself or a video (meet Christine the futuristic woman-ironbelles), but who knows if any of these women went extremely high in their weight in the offseason and just never took photos or videos of themselves (many feel fat in the offseason don't like to show themselves looking fat-which is personally my favorite look)

I just calculated a factor of 0.7 for Anna Konda - a German wrestler.

She's 254 lbs. at 5'4" and man she does look super massive.
Not really a classic bodybuilder though. But still.

Title: Re: Who's the biggest of all time - height to weight ratio in off-season?
Post by: m100 on August 19, 2019, 07:45:16 pm
Anna is massive and strong, no doubt about it. But she carrys a lot of fat and doesn't consider herself a bodybuilder.
Title: Re: Who's the biggest of all time - height to weight ratio in off-season?
Post by: flexomatic on August 20, 2019, 02:49:30 pm
Anna is massive and strong, no doubt about it. But she carrys a lot of fat and doesn't consider herself a bodybuilder.

That's what I said....

well - anyone challenging Christine?

Anyone have the stats for Andrea Shaw?
Title: Re: Who's the biggest of all time - height to weight ratio in off-season?
Post by: birmi482 on August 20, 2019, 04:31:36 pm
Andrea Shaw doesn't come close, i don't know her exact stats, but she must be taller than Christine but weighs less than her. Regarding the Amazonka, her top weight was 102 kg which is 225 pounds. Her height is sometimes given as 1.68 metres, sometimes  as 1.70 metres.

So if you divide 102 by 168, you get 0.607, if you do it for 102 by 170, you still get 0.60, we have a winner!!!! And the most important thing, when offseason the Amazonka is still all muscle with excellent definition and pumped veins!!!!! Just unbelievabe, a real miracle, the 8th World Wonder
Title: Re: Who's the biggest of all time - height to weight ratio in off-season?
Post by: flexomatic on August 21, 2019, 02:39:02 pm
Andrea Shaw doesn't come close, i don't know her exact stats, but she must be taller than Christine but weighs less than her. Regarding the Amazonka, her top weight was 102 kg which is 225 pounds. Her height is sometimes given as 1.68 metres, sometimes  as 1.70 metres.

So if you divide 102 by 168, you get 0.607, if you do it for 102 by 170, you still get 0.60, we have a winner!!!! And the most important thing, when offseason the Amazonka is still all muscle with excellent definition and pumped veins!!!!! Just unbelievabe, a real miracle, the 8th World Wonder

However, you must discount the weight of her massive implants. :)
Title: Re: Who's the biggest of all time - height to weight ratio in off-season?
Post by: Lovefbbmega on August 22, 2019, 09:38:15 am
I ve met a lot of big girls like Nataliya Kuznetsova in Romania, Jayne Stark during our show in Paris, Kireen Ellis in Miam National contest (made a pic with her and Carla Maria and Tischa Thomas).. I would say Kireen Ellis is one of the most massive women I ve ever seen. Nataliya too. Also French girl Eva Damoh is pretty tall and huge. People don't realise the mass of muscles she had under the fat. She is pretty heavy around 250 few years ago. You can see her pose with Robin Hillis is the most mucular epic pose during one of our show in Paris...
Title: Re: Who's the biggest of all time - height to weight ratio in off-season?
Post by: birmi482 on August 22, 2019, 10:34:47 am
@lovefbbmega. Yes, you organized events with many big girls . You moved your event in September from London to Paris just because of Nataliya? There are two more girls who are at the event and possibly more UK FBB. Why did you not replace Nataliya by another girl instead of moving the whole event to Paris just because she cannot enter the UK?
Title: Re: Who's the biggest of all time - height to weight ratio in off-season?
Post by: m100 on August 22, 2019, 08:17:05 pm
Well it's bad for the other girls who need to come to Paris now, instead of London, but Natalya is the main attraction. I guess most people are coming to the show just because Natalya is there  ;). She's probably the biggest and strongest fbb on the planet right now.
Title: Re: Who's the biggest of all time - height to weight ratio in off-season?
Post by: Lovefbbmega on August 23, 2019, 03:19:00 pm
@lovefbbmega. Yes, you organized events with many big girls . You moved your event in September from London to Paris just because of Nataliya? There are two more girls who are at the event and possibly more UK FBB. Why did you not replace Nataliya by another girl instead of moving the whole event to Paris just because she cannot enter the UK?


Yeah, i understand, it is quite complicated. The decision to move to Paris is the best solution for everyone, paris being central to Europe (Uk, Germany, Italy...)
Title: Re: Who's the biggest of all time - height to weight ratio in off-season?
Post by: birmi482 on August 23, 2019, 03:43:09 pm
So why did you place the event in London (your first time here) in first place and make people to buy tickets?  I completely agree with m100. If not for Nataliya, not even a dozen persons would show up for your event. Nataliya is the sole attraction and people come only because of her. At least be sincere and honest and don't try to white wash with some lame excuse
Title: Re: Who's the biggest of all time - height to weight ratio in off-season?
Post by: Lovefbbmega on August 23, 2019, 09:33:26 pm
So why did you place the event in London (your first time here) in first place and make people to buy tickets?  I completely agree with m100. If not for Nataliya, not even a dozen persons would show up for your event. Nataliya is the sole attraction and people come only because of her. At least be sincere and honest and don't try to white wash with some lame excuse

Yes first time in London, because 2 time in Paris, London would be a great destination.
 Did you read she was denied visa?
Didnt you see on Nataliya that she posted on her Story she was scheduled for London? Are you trying to imply that she was trying to cheat as well?
This is non sense..
Secondly most of people attending the show are VIP on our site.
Trying to imply that we werent honest in totally riduculous... And still there is refund option... Dont be silly dude!
Also Micaela Viscido was scheduled and can not came
So now discussing about option to do a smaller show... If this option of another show without Nataliya was suggested, you d have complain too...

To finish not our first show. If you want to organise a show go ahead instead of critizing. I know you are absolute hater and this doesnt matter at all.
Title: Re: Who's the biggest of all time - height to weight ratio in off-season?
Post by: birmi482 on August 24, 2019, 06:40:01 pm
I am not a hater, i have always defended you when other people suggested on this forum on other threads that you are a cheat/fraud ot that you want to make a quick buck on the expense of the girls or shmoes, i have always sprung to your defense, just read the different threads reg. Shehulkcam and showup23, so you can see that i always came to your defense so you are attacking the wrong person. I also never ever suggested that Nataliya is a cheat. I genuinely believe that the UK Home Office denied her access, i live in London and know one or two things about the policies of the Home Office.
What I said was, that you should have been open on Saradas and admitting that Nataliya was the main attraction to your event and that without her coming to London there is no point of holding an event here as the other girls with all respect would never attract the same fans instead of saying that it is best for all to move the event to Paris. No one subsribes to an event in order to be refunded later, we want to come, we all suscribed as VIP. Not everyone can come to Paris, so at least be sincere to your London audience. And again, i am not a hater, just read my posts on other threads regarding you.
Title: Re: Who's the biggest of all time - height to weight ratio in off-season?
Post by: Lovefbbmega on August 24, 2019, 09:03:18 pm
I am not a hater, i have always defended you when other people suggested on this forum on other threads that you are a cheat/fraud ot that you want to make a quick buck on the expense of the girls or shmoes, i have always sprung to your defense, just read the different threads reg. Shehulkcam and showup23, so you can see that i always came to your defense so you are attacking the wrong person. I also never ever suggested that Nataliya is a cheat. I genuinely believe that the UK Home Office denied her access, i live in London and know one or two things about the policies of the Home Office.
What I said was, that you should have been open on Saradas and admitting that Nataliya was the main attraction to your event and that without her coming to London there is no point of holding an event here as the other girls with all respect would never attract the same fans instead of saying that it is best for all to move the event to Paris. No one subsribes to an event in order to be refunded later, we want to come, we all suscribed as VIP. Not everyone can come to Paris, so at least be sincere to your London audience. And again, i am not a hater, just read my posts on other threads regarding you.

Yes , sorry about the confusion. My hanger comes from the fact that all the session were pure money loss with the number of attendant...
So in fact making money just with attendant is not something you are going to consider when doing this kind of show.
Thanks for being supportive and understanding the situation

yes 100% coming to the show are for Nataliya... Still we are discussing with other model to maintain it or at least do a smaller show
Will keep you update.

Thanks again
Title: Re: Who's the biggest of all time - height to weight ratio in off-season?
Post by: stratos on November 01, 2019, 05:16:23 am
I had to come back to this thread, how could I have forgot -Aleesha Young. She reached 225 lbs (or somewhere in the 220s-the pic is some where on her insta****) and she said on chat that she weighed 290 when she was pregnant.
Title: Re: Who's the biggest of all time - height to weight ratio in off-season?
Post by: birmi482 on November 01, 2019, 05:58:39 am
When Aleesha gets to 220/225, how much of it is muscle and how much is fat? At this weight, she does not have any visible muscle definition or abs. I have seen her on webcam when she carries this sort of weight, you could not say that she is a bb. In stark contrast, Nataliya even at 225 has muscle definitions and very visible abs though I appreciate that she is 4 inches taller than Aleesha
Title: Re: Who's the biggest of all time - height to weight ratio in off-season?
Post by: stratos on November 02, 2019, 03:06:49 pm
When Aleesha gets to 220/225, how much of it is muscle and how much is fat? At this weight, she does not have any visible muscle definition or abs. I have seen her on webcam when she carries this sort of weight, you could not say that she is a bb. In stark contrast, Nataliya even at 225 has muscle definitions and very visible abs though I appreciate that she is 4 inches taller than Aleesha

I'm the worst when it comes to copying and pasting but just google "Aleesha Young 220 lbs", the first link should be a facebook link titled throwback thursday at 220 and 24 years old.  She is sporting a pink tanktop leaning over the edge of a patio along the beach.  You can decide for yourself whether it's muscle or fat.  I personally feel she is a bodybuilder, it's just that she is in the offseason.  But I hear what you are saying, it gets tricky because I seen many female weightlifters that sported that "round" look but was still very muscular. 
Title: Re: Who's the biggest of all time - height to weight ratio in off-season?
Post by: stratos on November 02, 2019, 03:20:15 pm
When Aleesha gets to 220/225, how much of it is muscle and how much is fat? At this weight, she does not have any visible muscle definition or abs. I have seen her on webcam when she carries this sort of weight, you could not say that she is a bb. In stark contrast, Nataliya even at 225 has muscle definitions and very visible abs though I appreciate that she is 4 inches taller than Aleesha

I'm the worst when it comes to copying and pasting but just google "Aleesha Young 220 lbs", the first link should be a facebook link titled throwback thursday at 220 and 24 years old.  She is sporting a pink tanktop leaning over the edge of a patio along the beach.  You can decide for yourself whether it's muscle or fat.  I personally feel she is a bodybuilder, it's just that she is in the offseason.  But I hear what you are saying, it gets tricky because I seen many female weightlifters that sported that "round" look but was still very muscular. 
Title: Re: Who's the biggest of all time - height to weight ratio in off-season?
Post by: beowulff on November 02, 2019, 07:21:13 pm
What about Coleete Guimond or Sharon Marvel?
Title: Re: Who's the biggest of all time - height to weight ratio in off-season?
Post by: stratos on November 02, 2019, 08:42:47 pm
What about Coleete Guimond or Sharon Marvel?

threadstarter stated going strictly by the numbers, not by how thick they look. Coliette at 5 1' at 180 and Sharon 5 3' at 180 lbs dont compare to either Christine or Aleesha at their max weight.
Title: Re: Who's the biggest of all time - height to weight ratio in off-season?
Post by: bruce321 on November 05, 2019, 02:58:20 am
My two cents, you've got to go by highest competition weight. There's just too much variability in off-season body fat percentages, and you can't tell by appearance. Competition weight will vary also, but not nearly as much.
Title: Re: Who's the biggest of all time - height to weight ratio in off-season?
Post by: tate1 on November 05, 2019, 02:02:46 pm
I agree with Bruce321. We should also figure out the biggest of all time - height to weight contest shape.
Some bodybuilders like to carry alittle fat in the offseason, others like to carry more. It's too varying.
Title: Re: Who's the biggest of all time - height to weight ratio in off-season?
Post by: gatorvin on June 03, 2020, 12:08:41 pm
I AM a stats geek and love the idea of knowing who pack the most muscle per cm. Problem is that the weights girls and websites quote are all over the show. If we take what is said on say HBC stats on face value then current winner is Amazonka, just shading Aleesha Young in second, Monique Jones contest shape third. Fourth is joint Andrea Shaw with surprise candidate Kris Goy. Someone like Oana Hreapca or Shannon Seeley are well down the list, presumably because the carry such little fat. To be honest I didn't actually try too many girls, just the ones I thought would be interesting. There's lots of scope to find contenders I'm sure. For example Noof Yusuf Ghailan would have interesting stats, but I don't have them to hand
Title: Re: Who's the biggest of all time - height to weight ratio in off-season?
Post by: Butt kisser on June 03, 2020, 12:40:44 pm
Laurie Fierstein was very thick in her offseason. I doubt she'd qualify as the statistically 'biggest'. But she carried a lot of beef, on a naturally small frame (less than 5 ft).
Title: Re: Who's the biggest of all time - height to weight ratio in off-season?
Post by: bruce321 on June 03, 2020, 05:34:09 pm
I AM a stats geek and love the idea of knowing who pack the most muscle per cm. Problem is that the weights girls and websites quote are all over the show. If we take what is said on say HBC stats on face value then current winner is Amazonka, just shading Aleesha Young in second, Monique Jones contest shape third. Fourth is joint Andrea Shaw with surprise candidate Kris Goy. Someone like Oana Hreapca or Shannon Seeley are well down the list, presumably because the carry such little fat. To be honest I didn't actually try too many girls, just the ones I thought would be interesting. There's lots of scope to find contenders I'm sure. For example Noof Yusuf Ghailan would have interesting stats, but I don't have them to hand
Agree. I've met women for sessions who've admitted their stats were inflated, at least for height, which actually works against them in your calculation. Recently tried looking someone up, who I had remembered having a surprising stage weight and couldn't find her. USAMuscleWomen used to list weigh-in stats for each contest they covered, but they seem to have removed that, and I don't know of any other common source. You're lucky if you can find a picture of the weigh-in sheet now.
Title: Re: Who's the biggest of all time - height to weight ratio in off-season?
Post by: maxfarias on December 01, 2020, 08:43:18 pm
Christine Envall commented in their site she became 215 pounds in an off season some years ago. 
Title: Re: Who's the biggest of all time - height to weight ratio in off-season?
Post by: lifted on December 03, 2020, 02:51:45 am
Doughdee Marie an oldie but a goodie. She was over 200lbs during her strength shows.
Title: Re: Who's the biggest of all time - height to weight ratio in off-season?
Post by: superfetdown on February 20, 2021, 04:31:29 pm
Tina Lockwood?
Title: Re: Who's the biggest of all time - height to weight ratio in off-season?
Post by: Butt kisser on February 21, 2021, 08:01:37 pm
Doughdee Marie an oldie but a goodie. She was over 200lbs during her strength shows.

yes.. and especially for her era, Doughdee was uniquely thick.