Forum Saradas

Private Sessions => Cities / Countries and announcements => Topic started by: mtjr287 on May 20, 2019, 10:51:20 pm

Title: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: mtjr287 on May 20, 2019, 10:51:20 pm
Looks like this site handles all booking, deposits, payments for a handful of sessionettes. Has anyone used this site’s services? Is it trustworthy?

MT
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: Dingaro on May 21, 2019, 11:14:57 pm
It sounds ambitious. I haven't used it yet.

The people behind daily fbb clips and fanswise seem to be the creators of this one, too. All I can say is: they seem to have the right ideas, although they often seem to lack the technical expertise to make everything work.

If it manages to provide some security for both providers and clients, I suppose it should succeed.
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: Tetaadicto1965 on May 22, 2019, 09:31:43 am
That website is managed by saradas user Lovefbbmega. He is a parasite. It's just a little clever guy who just wants to make money on our back, ensuring that in the end, all meetings only pass through him via his site and his shows at 250 Euro stink the scam with full nose.

The sessionists do not need an intermediary to organize their trip. They have always been able to do it for years via WB270 or sessiongirls.com, which are managed voluntarily by true lovers of muscular women and mixed wrestling and is largely enough to put us in touch with the sessioners.
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: m100 on May 22, 2019, 05:25:05 pm
That website is managed by saradas user Lovefbbmega. He is a parasite. It's just a little clever guy who just wants to make money on our back, ensuring that in the end, all meetings only pass through him via his site and his shows at 250 Euro stink the scam with full nose.

The sessionists do not need an intermediary to organize their trip. They have always been able to do it for years via WB270 or sessiongirls.com, which are managed voluntarily by true lovers of muscular women and mixed wrestling and is largely enough to put us in touch with the sessioners.

I wouldn't call him a parasite, but I'm also kinda dissapointed by his behaviour. I had some issues with Fanswise, the customer service was slow, sometimes he responded, sometimes not. However, making money through sessions is ok. If this site is really offering some advantages for fbb's as well as fans, why not. Just the developers and the customer service could be better.
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: bruce321 on May 22, 2019, 05:55:36 pm
The sessionists do not need an intermediary to organize their trip. They have always been able to do it for years via WB270 or sessiongirls.com, which are managed voluntarily by true lovers of muscular women and mixed wrestling and is largely enough to put us in touch with the sessioners.
Agreed, I just don't see where they're is adding any value. The one thing the site does do is hold the deposit, which is something guys have proposed in the past to ensure a woman can't just keep it. But if you read the terms, you've got to cancel within ten days of the session to get it back. That's more strict than most of the women would be! Those last ten days are when things come up. It's also the time period when many sessions are booked, which would make the deposit non-refundable. Personally, I've never had a deposit dispute, and I'd rather take my chances dealing directly with the lady.

I'm also not seeing how this site can make any money without jacking up the price of a session,  unless it's coming from the lost deposits. The women accept fifty bucks less per session, but get to keep all those hundred dollar deposits. I seriously doubt the women would agree to less money overall, unless you were doing something like managing the tours for them, and that's not something anyone should want to put themselves in the middle of.

Booking agencies still exist, but the only model that males sense to me is where they're providing the facilities to host the sessions, like Tempest in New York City. They maintain a fully matted studio, which is worth something to both the the ladies and the clients. Short of that, not seeing the point.

I'd book through this site if I didn't have any other options. It looks like a couple of the women like Carla Inhaia are exclusive to them at the moment. Others like Mirage don't appear to be. It'd be interesting to price a session with her directly vs. going through that site and seeing if there's a difference.
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: Dingaro on May 22, 2019, 10:17:42 pm
You actually convinced me, bruce321. I also started wondering how the site will make money, if all it does it keep the client's deposit and then pass it on to the lady. It would be interesting to hear Lovemegafbb on the matter, for people to know what they're getting into.

I'd also like to say that even though wb270 works, it's antiquated and clunky. A modern website with a database would be better, so if this is it, that's a good thing (as long as it's not taken advantage of - the one thing wb270 has going for it is that it's a completely free service, that seems to be provided basically out of the goodness of the owner's heart. It might not be the same with showup).
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: bruce321 on May 23, 2019, 06:06:48 am
You actually convinced me, bruce321. I also started wondering how the site will make money, if all it does it keep the client's deposit and then pass it on to the lady. It would be interesting to hear Lovemegafbb on the matter, for people to know what they're getting into.

I'd also like to say that even though wb270 works, it's antiquated and clunky. A modern website with a database would be better, so if this is it, that's a good thing (as long as it's not taken advantage of - the one thing wb270 has going for it is that it's a completely free service, that seems to be provided basically out of the goodness of the owner's heart. It might not be the same with showup).
SessionGirls is the successor to WB270. I can't think of anything it's lacking. The women can update their own profiles, travel plans, and as far as I know it's free. I still use WB270, because there are a few women that aren't on SessionGirls, and occasionally the travel plans for the same provider are different on the two sites. But otherwise WB270 can retire after many years of great service to the community.

I'm not sure what Lovemegafbb is thinking. I have the feeling that inserting himself in the middle of the client-provider relationship can only lead to two outcomes. He's either not going to provide enough value to justify his cut, or he takes on too much responsibility and it becomes more trouble than it's worth. I wouldn't care to try it. Can you imagine what's going to happen here when the first wave of guys start losing their deposits a week out? The bitching will be epic!

Boyofwinter - I'm a little fuzzy as I've only booked a handful of sessions through agents like Cheryl Harris that weren't providing a venue, and it was a long time ago, but I think that worked as a referral? You didn't pay anything to her. She just put you in touch with the provider, and I assume they paid her a fee if the session went through. That's a different thing, and you can argue the merits of it. But I only went through her in the rare cases where I couldn't contact someone directly.

Just to clarify my position, I'm not completely against this idea, but I've got questions. Why would I book Mirage through that site instead of going to her directly? And if Mirage does become exclusive to that site, will her session prices go up? If prices remain the same, and lost deposits are funding things, that won't affect me much. I rarely cancel sessions, and I when I do, I tend to tell the woman to keep it for their trouble. Not everyone can afford to be like that though, and I'm sure there are going to be controversies as it is a hot button issue for a lot of guys and there might be legitimate reasons to cancel on short notice.
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: birmi482 on May 23, 2019, 06:43:33 am
from what I see, there are mainly South American or Latin girls, Mirage being the execption. The guy behind this is French, he is the founder of daily-fbb-clips and fanwise. He organized fan events in Paris with some notable fbbs like Irene Andersen and other less known athletes, powerlifters, stronggirls and fbb. He is trying to organize another event in London in September. i don't know if his fanwise site makes money, he has not updated Virginia Sanchez's page since February and Nataliya Amazonka's page since March, subscribers probably leaving in droves, so he tries to set up the session intermediary page, but how many English speakers will travel to South America for sessions with these girls. However, he might bring them over to Europe or US for a tour, therefore setting up this page.
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: Lovefbbmega on May 23, 2019, 11:51:18 am
Hy guy this tread is really cool. And I love it and I appreciate the various comment and opinions.
 I ll clarify  with more details of what we are doing.
In fact we ran several website, like fanswise (where model can update their videos and make recurrent income, this was the main idea). The percentage the girls take are 80% which is fair, when you know the cost to maintain a site, the transaction fees, server cost, bugs to solve, the support team etc).
Showups23 is a continuation. The price of the ladies wont go up for a reason. We give them back the deposit with a good percentage and also help them pay the travel expenses, hotel, which the reason why more and more Brazilian would come at no risk for them. Also we want to bring American to Europe and Europen sessionnist to USA.

Why would you book from our site as a client?
1) avoid scam
2) leave a TRUE REVIEW only after booking and completing a session (which is not the case on other session site)
3) We offer true bonus if you book with us. (we dont take any fees on your deposit)
a) free access to our daily fbb clips fanswise
b) fee access to our VIP show in your area with several Fbb like Nataliya ,etc... (we have experience from past show like Margie Marin, Irene Andersen, Claudia Partenza, Eva Damoh, Maria Wattel, Virginia Sanchez, Maz Burn, Anna Khudayarov, Laurence Prévot, Jayne Stark, etc...) So no we are not parasite, we are trying to do something different, innovative... Those who want to join our community are welcome
c) fee session after a number of session booked on our site.
d) free live cam

So yes, Mirage join our site and she knows why. They know we help them , and this is a true story, you can ask her. And you can ask many girls like Virginia Sanchez, Eva Damoh, etc..

We are adding more perfomer on the site, more travel tour.
More models are whilling to join us.

We are opened to any suggestion, and thanks for all your comment, appreciation and even negative opinion. We are just getting better with your help.
Thanks
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: ana1x on May 23, 2019, 12:16:03 pm
That website is managed by saradas user Lovefbbmega. He is a parasite. It's just a little clever guy who just wants to make money on our back, ensuring that in the end, all meetings only pass through him via his site and his shows at 250 Euro stink the scam with full nose.

The sessionists do not need an intermediary to organize their trip. They have always been able to do it for years via WB270 or sessiongirls.com, which are managed voluntarily by true lovers of muscular women and mixed wrestling and is largely enough to put us in touch with the sessioners.

Yes , I'm agree with Tetaadicto1965 and I'm happy to see I'm not alone to say that.
Lovefbbmega is not a true lover of muscular women. He just wants to make money with the girls and us. It's only his goal. Don't trust him and don't get trapped by his business.
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: Lovefbbmega on May 23, 2019, 12:46:21 pm
from what I see, there are mainly South American or Latin girls, Mirage being the execption. The guy behind this is French, he is the founder of daily-fbb-clips and fanwise. He organized fan events in Paris with some notable fbbs like Irene Andersen and other less known athletes, powerlifters, stronggirls and fbb. He is trying to organize another event in London in September. i don't know if his fanwise site makes money, he has not updated Virginia Sanchez's page since February and Nataliya Amazonka's page since March, subscribers probably leaving in droves, so he tries to set up the session intermediary page, but how many English speakers will travel to South America for sessions with these girls. However, he might bring them over to Europe or US for a tour, therefore setting up this page.

Virginia Sanchez wanted to stop the video for some week for personal reason, I chat with her regurlarly. And She was part of our Show, met her during the Wingsofstrenght show in Romania last year. She is really cool. Yesterday she just announced that she will publish video again on her Fanswise page. So you can follow her update on her insta****..

For the brazilians girls, as I said, more and more will travel to US and Europe with our help. And as I said, more sessionist from Europe will travel to Us and vice versa.
We are trying to bring in the session many firls from USA and Euorpe, Canada, who are not in yet!

If you have suggestion feel free to tell
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: birmi482 on May 23, 2019, 12:52:33 pm
i wouldn't dismiss him straight away as parasite, he has staged events with fbb, the events took place in Paris, they are evidenced with pics and clips. On the other hand, I feel that he wants to become an agent fir the girls, esoecially the South American girls who probabky need his help to make it to Europe. I don't think that he is a fraudster, but some of his business practitions are questionable like fanwise where he asks for monthly subscriptions but updates some of the pages once in three months. Asking fir Natakiya usd 39 per month and not updating her page for over two months is completely dishonest. Awefilms for comparison updates 5 times per week sometimes even more, and charge usd 30 a months. He will probably blame Nataliya that she does not update her page more, but i am not buying into that
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: Lovefbbmega on May 23, 2019, 01:09:42 pm
i wouldn't dismiss him straight away as parasite, he has staged events with fbb, the events took place in Paris, they are evidenced with pics and clips. On the other hand, I feel that he wants to become an agent fir the girls, esoecially the South American girls who probabky need his help to make it to Europe. I don't think that he is a fraudster, but some of his business practitions are questionable like fanwise where he asks for monthly subscriptions but updates some of the pages once in three months. Asking fir Natakiya usd 39 per month and not updating her page for over two months is completely dishonest. Awefilms for comparison updates 5 times per week sometimes even more, and charge usd 30 a months. He will probably blame Nataliya that she does not update her page more, but i am not buying into that

The show are the only visible part of the iceberg... Most people dont know how many money we gave to many fbb (even those not doing video or show, or session...).
For Fanswise, if a model stop updating, she has the right to do it.. you can just cancel your subcription, or maintain, it is up to you.
We are not responsable of the decision of the girl
If you buy something on netflix, you can not blame netflix... for a comparison.

This being said, Fanswise help a lot of girl Like Natalie E. from UK. You can ask her, just ask her... And you will see.
No one is perfect, our service aren't neither but we keep improving...

Just to inform you that we are working on live event, cam and show.

If you want to meet Nataliya in London In September contact us, or get your free VIP entrance.
Thanks
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: birmi482 on May 23, 2019, 01:19:59 pm
with regards to fanwise i am not buying into your explanation, the girls don't have the knowledge nor the know how to set up a billing system. They probably hardly have set up a paypal page, so you are probably the owner of the site and the clips on it. It is easy to blame the girls for it, but there should be some responsibility on your side as well. for example, why do you need to subscribe per month per athlete instead of having the possibity to buy and download single clips?
and with regards to the event in London, what services will be offered? is there a possibility to book 1-1 sessions with Nataliya Amazonka?
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: Lovefbbmega on May 23, 2019, 01:41:47 pm
with regards to fanwise i am not buying into your explanation, the girls don't have the knowledge nor the know how to set up a billing system. They probably hardly have set up a paypal page, so you are probably the owner of the site and the clips on it. It is easy to blame the girls for it, but there should be some responsibility on your side as well. for example, why do you need to subscribe per month per athlete instead of having the possibity to buy and download single clips?
and with regards to the event in London, what services will be offered? is there a possibility to book 1-1 sessions with Nataliya Amazonka?

Let me be clear:  I m not blaming anyone. But We are not responsable for the content, update of each model page. Our Page is like a paid insta**** where you need a subscription to access each girl. So each model earn 80% of the subscription, because she upload her exclusive and private content.
The concept is different from other site like Awefilms.

Concerning the show in London, it will be A 3 hrs show with Nat and other girls. Like our other shows, we display feats of strenght, posing, interraction with fans...
To what I know Nat doesnt do Session.
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: birmi482 on May 23, 2019, 02:13:55 pm
thank you, i accept your explanation. i also have never thought that you are a parasite as some here suggested, given the events you staged in Paris with very famous fbb and strongwomen. i was not present but bought some of the event clips.

with regards to Nataliya Amazonka, given her huge popularity i am sure that I am not the only one to ask about a 1-1 session., so when you that to the best of your knowledge she does not do sessions, have you asked her about doing sessuons and about joining your new session set up site?
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: m100 on May 23, 2019, 03:02:37 pm
The show in London sounds interesting, I might consider joining.
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: Lovefbbmega on May 23, 2019, 07:54:18 pm
thank you, i accept your explanation. i also have never thought that you are a parasite as some here suggested, given the events you staged in Paris with very famous fbb and strongwomen. i was not present but bought some of the event clips.

with regards to Nataliya Amazonka, given her huge popularity i am sure that I am not the only one to ask about a 1-1 session., so when you that to the best of your knowledge she does not do sessions, have you asked her about doing sessuons and about joining your new session set up site?

Thanks for being honest. This motivate us to doing more. I personnally talked and meet Nataliya (in Romania) but she never wanted to do session. Unfortunately.
But you may ask her privately. Who knows.?
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: birmi482 on May 23, 2019, 08:06:46 pm
thank you for your answer. If you already asked her and her answer was negative, there is no point in trying to ask her again.
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: Female Bodybuilding on May 23, 2019, 08:49:44 pm
thank you, i accept your explanation. i also have never thought that you are a parasite as some here suggested, given the events you staged in Paris with very famous fbb and strongwomen. i was not present but bought some of the event clips.

with regards to Nataliya Amazonka, given her huge popularity i am sure that I am not the only one to ask about a 1-1 session., so when you that to the best of your knowledge she does not do sessions, have you asked her about doing sessuons and about joining your new session set up site?

Thanks for being honest. This motivate us to doing more. I personnally talked and meet Nataliya (in Romania) but she never wanted to do session. Unfortunately.
But you may ask her privately. Who knows.?

https://saradas.org/index.php?topic=45025.msg2161481#msg2161481
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: birmi482 on May 23, 2019, 10:27:38 pm
that was years ago, maybe she agreed in the past, but now it looks that she does not do sessions.
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: birmi482 on May 24, 2019, 11:21:07 am
@lovefbbmega. i would like to say again that I really appreciate your initiatives and your sincerity about approaching Nataliya Amazonka regarding sessions and admitting that she rejected sessions. I hope your London event will be a big success :clap:
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: FBBMW on May 24, 2019, 11:54:10 pm
If a session site will get more girls into doing sessions, that will be great.   
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: Lovefbbmega on May 25, 2019, 07:43:56 am
@lovefbbmega. i would like to say again that I really appreciate your initiatives and your sincerity about approaching Nataliya Amazonka regarding sessions and admitting that she rejected sessions. I hope your London event will be a big success :clap:

There is no reason why I d have lied. Thanks for your support !  :thanks:
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: Lovefbbmega on May 25, 2019, 07:47:33 am
If a session site will get more girls into doing sessions, that will be great.   

This is what we are doing: bringing new girls to the game.
You can see that English Natasha join us.

And we are planning to introduce a well know US fbb very soon for her first travel to Europe, and US,  and many Brazilian girls to USA too.

We are working hard on the project so If you want to join the community join the site and share your idea.

Some people chat with us online and ask us for a specific performer than we negociate with her and motivate her to jump into the project.

 :wob:
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: birmi482 on May 25, 2019, 06:30:12 pm
@lovefbbmega. i never implied you would lie, but you could have refused to answer. As you have met her personally in Romania at the competirion, is she really so much bigger than the other top fbbs?
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: Lovefbbmega on May 26, 2019, 08:12:05 pm
@lovefbbmega. i never implied you would lie, but you could have refused to answer. As you have met her personally in Romania at the competirion, is she really so much bigger than the other top fbbs?

I mean she is... wow...  :wow: really , big, wide, muscular, heavy, and very very nice....
She is a real amazon.

Her with Micaela Viscido at the show it will be something unique !
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: birmi482 on May 27, 2019, 02:18:10 am
@lovefbbmega, thanks, but how is she compared to other fbb in terms of size and muscle mass when you see her in person?
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: m100 on May 27, 2019, 09:19:09 am
I've seen Natalya in person aswell on the Fibo 2018 and 2019. She's the biggest fbb I've ever seen in my life and yea, so she's way bigger than other fbb's. Especially her legs and arms are amazing. She's also about 15kg heavier compared to other fbb's on the fibo, like Jay Fuchs or Helle Trevino.
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: birmi482 on May 27, 2019, 10:30:34 am
the biggest fbb i have ever met is Jana Linke from Germany who was the largest fbb some 10 years ago, measuring 1.71 and weighing 90-95. She is still active, at least in sessions, and comes often to London. It would be interesting to see and compare her with Nataliya, they are the same height and same weight
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: Lovefbbmega on May 27, 2019, 04:22:03 pm
@lovefbbmega, thanks, but how is she compared to other fbb in terms of size and muscle mass when you see her in person?

She is clearly bigger. I didnt see her next to Monique Jones, but Monique is huuggee tooo...
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: Lovefbbmega on May 27, 2019, 04:23:17 pm
the biggest fbb i have ever met is Jana Linke from Germany who was the largest fbb some 10 years ago, measuring 1.71 and weighing 90-95. She is still active, at least in sessions, and comes often to London. It would be interesting to see and compare her with Nataliya, they are the same height and same weight

I d love to have Jana on our site and do some nice stuff with other fbb. That would be amazing.. Not sure if she is interested.
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: birmi482 on May 27, 2019, 04:34:17 pm
Jana probably does not need you for sessions, she has been doing it for 12 years, globally, she went as far ad Australia. But having her at your London event, side by side with the Amazonka, this might be a huge crowd attraction. She is a regular visitor to London, so you might have a chance that she will participate at the event. She is a very nice lady, i have met her several times. She was the largest fbb when i met her and i would love to see how she measures up with Nataliya
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: Lovefbbmega on May 29, 2019, 11:27:55 am
Jana probably does not need you for sessions, she has been doing it for 12 years, globally, she went as far ad Australia. But having her at your London event, side by side with the Amazonka, this might be a huge crowd attraction. She is a regular visitor to London, so you might have a chance that she will participate at the event. She is a very nice lady, i have met her several times. She was the largest fbb when i met her and i would love to see how she measures up with Nataliya

Why not ? If a client want to book her on our website, because he want to get the bonus and benefits we offer, or for whatever reason, she can accept.
We are also offering 20% on session for any non existing performer on our site if she use it with him! This offer is set to expire in 3 weeks from nom.

Ex: you want to book a session with Jana, she is not on our website. Get 20% of the session cost. And still get our bonus and gifts...
Anyone can ask any performer to join our site because he want to book on it.

For the show, that would be cool to see her next to Natalya and Micaela Viscido.
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: birmi482 on May 29, 2019, 12:20:23 pm
i obviously cannot speak for Jana, you would have to contact her, she is easily accessible on e-mail, but her trips are planned many month ahead, so if you wish to book her for your London show you need to act NOW. She goes under the name rippedprincess.com. To see her next to Nataliya will be a sight to behold. Micaela Viscido is three leagues below Jana and Nataliya, the only comparison will be how much bigger Nataliya is compared to Micaela
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: Lovefbbmega on October 06, 2019, 05:56:55 pm
I’m having a really hard time finding a way to contact her. Anybody who’s already sessioned with her please help? DM might be easier. Would be hugely grateful. That show up site is utterly shit. Error messages, no replies from help desk, nothing works. Hardly a spot to send a deposit when I can’t even send a message!

Hi the site has worked since the start and no one else have shared a complain here, of this nature.
Also keep in mind that most support are off on week-end.
Expect an answer tomorrow. Even if we try to be active every day

Secundo, the only way to book with Alessandra will be via the site as we sponsor her travel.
Saying nothing work, while we have successful booking from other client with our models is a lot exagerate. May be you are facing a bug and we can take a look at it and fix it.

the best way to contact support is via the live chat button. (again week end is usually off)
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: e_honda on October 07, 2019, 01:35:29 am
I’m having a really hard time finding a way to contact her. Anybody who’s already sessioned with her please help? DM might be easier. Would be hugely grateful. That show up site is utterly shit. Error messages, no replies from help desk, nothing works. Hardly a spot to send a deposit when I can’t even send a message!

The Showup site isn't the easiest thing to work with, but it works. You have to buy credits first, then go to checkout to send the deposits. It worked for me.

Booking on that site is definitely harder than it should be, but it works.
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: Lovefbbmega on October 07, 2019, 06:54:37 am
I’m having a really hard time finding a way to contact her. Anybody who’s already sessioned with her please help? DM might be easier. Would be hugely grateful. That show up site is utterly shit. Error messages, no replies from help desk, nothing works. Hardly a spot to send a deposit when I can’t even send a message!

The Showup site isn't the easiest thing to work with, but it works. You have to buy credits first, then go to checkout to send the deposits. It worked for me.

Booking on that site is definitely harder than it should be, but it works.

Yes i agree with you and we have been reported that it is a little bit complicated. So we ll release a new version very soon to make it easier.
Thanks for your contribution.
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: Lovefbbmega on October 07, 2019, 06:51:40 pm
Done sessions for 20 years, never had a problem, never a stolen deposit. Now I’m needing a help desk that doesn’t work at weekends to set up a session? I’m not at all interested in buying credits for hand jobs. I don’t want random transactions showing up on my bank statement. This is the thought process of the idiotic. I can do without a session rather than go through this nonsense and expose myself to processes and people I don’t know. And please spare me the no show, security, better for the girls chat. It’s been circulating for all 20 years I’ve done sessions. Girl sets rule, if you don’t like it don’t book. There’s a tonne of risk showing up at a random hotel room to meet a stranger, but we all take it (both sides). Cash works perfectly well, I stay anonymous and that’s my method. This is one session I’m happy to miss out on, and not because of the girl. I’d love to see her.

This is your choice. Each one is opinion...
Thanks to us many girls could travel while they didnt before. And this is a fact. you dont want to session with them don't do, others will.
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: Lovefbbmega on October 07, 2019, 06:55:26 pm
K+ Gatorvin.  It's not so much the deposit issue as it is having to deal with a third party agent with a non-discreet payment system.  The UTR agency (RIP) understood this well and at the end of the day, it was pretty much between the client and the woman around scheduling and payment.


"non discreet payment system" ? Are you referring to paypal which is the main payment system used by 99% of the performer, rigth?
May be the site is too young for you to understand it ... When you buy video on many video companie like awefilms, fanswise XL, HBC, you still got your line somewhere, isn't?

Buying porno online or live cam is the same : you will probably use your credit card..
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: xepha on October 07, 2019, 08:57:37 pm
I don't use Paypal.  Cash/money order deposits have worked out just fine. 
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: gatorvin on October 11, 2019, 08:39:06 am
K+ Gatorvin.  It's not so much the deposit issue as it is having to deal with a third party agent with a non-discreet payment system.  The UTR agency (RIP) understood this well and at the end of the day, it was pretty much between the client and the woman around scheduling and payment.


"non discreet payment system" ? Are you referring to paypal which is the main payment system used by 99% of the performer, rigth?
May be the site is too young for you to understand it ... When you buy video on many video companie like awefilms, fanswise XL, HBC, you still got your line somewhere, isn't?

Buying porno online or live cam is the same : you will probably use your credit card..

Maybe you don’t understand my point? I’m well aware of online shopping and payment. I’m not 100 years old. I’ve paid deposits before and when not comfortable I’ve passed on the session which is fine. I just don’t see why I need an oddly inefficient website with a complicated system wedged between me and a session provider. There’s a tonne of questions not covered in FAQs. The help desk didn’t reply yet after 4 days! You think you are doing something good. I’m now struggling to buy a service I want from someone who is selling it. This would have been booked and deposit paid a week ago if this site wasn’t there. I didn’t ask for it and don’t need it. FYI lots of girls get pre funded (I’ve done it myself a few times), so it’s not original. I hope you haven’t put too much money into the site. And your immediate response of ‘if you don’t like it then get lost’ is really poor as you let down the customer and the session girl. Also you are patronising all of us with quotes like ‘maybe the site is too young for you’. If you can’t explain things properly it might be because there is no answer.
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: Lovefbbmega on October 11, 2019, 08:54:07 am
Well the answer is quite simple: we do sponsorise the travel cost of most athletes on our site
Without this help most would have never travelled like Carla Inhaia which was her second time in Europe, both time sponsored by us...
So no one is obliged to book via our site, so therefore we won't sponsorise any other athlete...
Meaning most of them would probably never travel again. And there are many other waiting to travel like Fernanda Fer which is really one good model..

Hope this answer your question.
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: Polite Society on October 12, 2019, 08:40:36 pm
  Smart to point out Lovefbbmega that the trips would not happen without your site.
 It isn't easy convincing session guys you have their interests at heart.If you ever signed up somebody I would want to see I would use your service..
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: Lovefbbmega on October 17, 2019, 07:40:25 am
  Smart to point out Lovefbbmega that the trips would not happen without your site.
 It isn't easy convincing session guys you have their interests at heart.If you ever signed up somebody I would want to see I would use your service..

well most Brazilian dont even have debit card to book hotel, and most of them cant afford the cost of the travel (hotel, airfaire, food...) before they get the money from the session.
This is where we help them... Many brazilian who travelled on our site where sponsorized. So this being said, if experienced sessionnist want to join our site, they can
we can also help them aswell if they ask...
We do sponsor Alessandra Alves travel in Europe november 2019 (London, Paris, Zurich.)
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: Chadr90 on November 19, 2019, 01:03:36 pm
Hi Lovefbbmega,

I have scheduled a session with Alessandra via your website, and have paid the deposit.  The session is in Miami on 11/27 at 9:00 AM.  When do I receive information about the location of the session?  Do I ever communicate dorectly with Alessandra prior to the session?  I have sent an email asking these questions, but there has been no response.  Thank you.
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: Lovefbbmega on November 19, 2019, 11:04:10 pm
Hi Lovefbbmega,

I have scheduled a session with Alessandra via your website, and have paid the deposit.  The session is in Miami on 11/27 at 9:00 AM.  When do I receive information about the location of the session?  Do I ever communicate dorectly with Alessandra prior to the session?  I have sent an email asking these questions, but there has been no response.  Thank you.

Hi you can DM her directly via the site. She will reply with all detail.
Thanks. For a faster answer please use the live chat box on the site.
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: fogonaroupa on January 07, 2020, 03:53:08 am
Hi Lovefbbmega,

I have scheduled a session with Alessandra via your website, and have paid the deposit.  The session is in Miami on 11/27 at 9:00 AM.  When do I receive information about the location of the session?  Do I ever communicate dorectly with Alessandra prior to the session?  I have sent an email asking these questions, but there has been no response.  Thank you.

Hi you can DM her directly via the site. She will reply with all detail.
Thanks. For a faster answer please use the live chat box on the site.


Hey, how was your session with Alessandra? Is she offer FS? thank you
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: MakeMeFly on September 02, 2020, 12:01:01 am
What happened to this site? Doesn't lod for me. Thanks
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: Tetaadicto1965 on September 02, 2020, 10:21:42 am
What happened to this site? Doesn't lod for me. Thanks

The promoter of that website (Lovefbbmega) and so many other projects of his, has once again reaped another authentic fiasco, and he does not learn
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: Dingaro on September 06, 2020, 05:48:36 pm
Yeah, it's a bit sad. It feels like he has OK ideas, but tries to implement them either by himself, or with very very few developers on their spare time or somesuch, without any graphic design. Which always results in very buggy, ugly services, that are OK when they work but often don't. I've tried to give him the benefit of the doubt on several occasions but I always get disappointed. Unfortunately never again.
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: gatorvin on September 07, 2020, 08:50:13 am
Pointless idea doomed to failure. I pointed that out and proved correct
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: Polite Society on September 08, 2020, 02:16:32 am
Someone who fails to learn from his numerous mistakes.
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: Viper4lyfe on May 30, 2021, 10:01:35 pm
Hi Lovefbbmega,

I have scheduled a session with Alessandra via your website, and have paid the deposit.  The session is in Miami on 11/27 at 9:00 AM.  When do I receive information about the location of the session?  Do I ever communicate dorectly with Alessandra prior to the session?  I have sent an email asking these questions, but there has been no response.  Thank you.

Hi you can DM her directly via the site. She will reply with all detail.
Thanks. For a faster answer please use the live chat box on the site.

Where is the site at now, meng?
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: busthemus2003 on September 22, 2023, 06:37:06 am
Looks like wb270 is closed down
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: Zenzen on September 22, 2023, 08:10:29 pm
Looks like wb270 is closed down

https://saradas.org/index.php?topic=876222.0
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: busthemus2003 on September 29, 2023, 01:48:00 pm
Looks like wb270 is closed down

https://saradas.org/index.php?topic=876222.0
thanks, I thought I used it last about June this year? Getting message on the domain saying set up your own sites
Title: Re: ShowUp23.com New session site
Post by: Zenzen on September 29, 2023, 01:57:11 pm
Looks like wb270 is closed down

https://saradas.org/index.php?topic=876222.0
thanks, I thought I used it last about June this year? Getting message on the domain saying set up your own sites

Dinosaur schmoe William "Bill" E. Burr is making fun with session lovers. Selfish old fart.

If you wonder who is Bill https://saradas.org/index.php?topic=876222.msg2936356#msg2936356