Do not trust WB270 site

[OrangeCountyCalifornia]

Sessiongifrls website does a better job keeping updated than wb270 site.
I had sent the guy running wb270 site couple reviews of sessions I had.  One 4 months ago &  the 2nd last month.  NEITHER was ever posted on wb270 website!

What kind of reviews were they?  Were they negative reviews?  I ask because I know Bill never allows negative reviews of anybody on his site even if they are true.

[Admirer4fbb]

Sessiongifrls website does a better job keeping updated than wb270 site.
I had sent the guy running wb270 site couple reviews of sessions I had.  One 4 months ago &  the 2nd last month.  NEITHER was ever posted on wb270 website!

What kind of reviews were they?  Were they negative reviews?  I ask because I know Bill never allows negative reviews of anybody on his site even if they are true.

Both reviews were positive. Actually, I been fortunate in that I NEVER had a "negative" experience with a session. Hence, ALL reviews that I have given, either to wb270 or Sessiongirls websites were POSITIVE.

[wb270]

Anyone trying to prop up sessiongirls over wb270 in terms of realiability and trust idk what to say.  This thread is the only instance that I’m aware of nearly two decades of it having a fake profile.. 

Sessiongirls seems to a have fake profile almost every other month (exaggeration/hyperbole) but there is no comparison in that regard.  Its is a FACT in the short amount of time sessiongirls has been up..it has had more fake profiles than wb270 (which has been around for almost 20 more years)..

Nevermind that some ladies don’t advertise on sessiongirls due to the site name and layout sounding/looking
more like an escort listing.

WB270 still king.

Honestly, I think Sessiongirls right has the same problems that I do on wb270, that is there seems to have been a recent surge of scammer registrations, typically accompanied by 4 or 5 pictures of absolutely gorgeous women and with some slightly curious phrases and wording similarities.  I've talked a little bit to Jennifer about it and I  have the impression that both of us have had to pull or reject registrations from some of the same people.  I think that anybody responding to a new a new registration on either site, where the woman asks for an up front deposit for any kind of meeting, even a local meeting, by some kind of non-reversible transfer, or anonymous transfer, should be considered suspicious right now.  Certainly I've had to remove several women I put up, some because they were using photos I could find on Google photos & did not respond to requests to verify the photos, and some I could not verify but were suspiciously similar.  I have never tried to verify the actual names of women who post on wb270, in fact I don't even want to know them.  But I will verify that the woman who sends me a photo, is the woman in the photo, if I become suspicious.  I don't do credit checks and so on.  If I get complaints about a deposit fraud, I'll do what I can to investigate it, but these things can devolve into a he said/she said that I can't resolve.  Some women do defraud clients, and that some men do make stuff up either because they are stalking the woman or because they are pressuring a woman to do things she doesn't feel she wants to do.

I don't know what Sessiongirls specific policies are about registering women, and everybody with a website that relates to muscle sessions is a bit nervous about recent new legislation intended to stop human trafficking.  I think that Sessiongirls is a damn good site and everybody here should be glad we have it.  There are a lot of practical limitations to what either Sessiongirls or Wb270 can do, or should do to prevent fraud.  Sessiongirls clearly costs a lot to run, but does try to bring in some revenue, and I hope they are making a profit.  Wb270 has never brought in a dime and never will, it's entirely a public service fan site, so I can't afford some of the glitz and bells and whistles.  I'd like to think that both sites are run pretty responsibly. 

But there are obvious opportunities for both deliberate scams and what I would call business failures.  By a business failure I mean that something bad happens and the session provider can't make good on her commitments.  That happens to small businesses all the time.  Businesses fail.   Women feel that they have to get deposits to travel, or they wind up loosing money, but then they blow out their knee, or they fly across the Atlantic and get turned away by border control, which can be a financial disaster for them.  So session clients have both deliberate fraud and business failure to worry about.  If you buy a car from an ad online or in a newspaper and it turns out to have spent 3 weeks under water and is a total lemon, neither the website nor the newspaper is going to make you whole.  It's just not practical for me, or, I think, Sessiongirls, to have a bulletproof registration process, so caveat emptor, don't give a deposit that you can't afford to write off to a learning experience.

I'm adjusting my policies and procedures a bit to try and cope.  E-mail me directly if you have information about recent registrations on wb270.com, that you think you should pass on.  wb270@yahoo.com

[wb270]

Sessiongifrls website does a better job keeping updated than wb270 site.
I had sent the guy running wb270 site couple reviews of sessions I had.  One 4 months ago &  the 2nd last month.  NEITHER was ever posted on wb270 website!
The same two reviews I sent to Sessiongirls website and within couple days they were posted.
And the lady I recently sessioned with said she tried couple times to have her photos updated on wb270 site.  But the guy never updated her photos! And she,  after a month still waiting!
If the person running the wb270 site is too busy to update he needs to "step down"!
I think waiting 4 months for an update is more than fair!
I have totally given up waisting my time emailing reviews to the Wb270 site,  which 
And I know it can be done because the person running Sessiongirls website does updates in a "timely manner"!
As to "fake profiles",  there are those who's very good at scamming.  I don't think there's anyway to totally prevent it.

You apparently sent me an email of complaint a few days ago, complaining abut the non-posted reviews and photos.  When I went to find the reviews by searching for other emails from that same sender, Yahoo mail didn't find any other emails from that same sender.  It might have been because they wound up in the yahoo spam folder, or because you used a different email to send them. 

I don't give either reviews or photo changes/additions a particularly high priority.  I'm not trying to compete with Sessiongirls as a picture site and I think that few women change dramatically every few months.  My order of priority is:

1. removals - at least if the woman wants to get off quickly, which is often the case.
2. travel
3. new additions
4. reviews
5. photos

I will say that whether I use photos or reviews at all is an editorial decision I make.  I am virtually certain to use a tightly written (100 words or less) review about actual wrestling (or boxing) which I see as the focus of wb270.  A review that is more about you than the girl, is unlikely to be used.   A wordy review about muscle worship is likely to either be edited down, or not used at all.  Unless role play involves some element of real overpowering or wrestling, I may give it rather short shift.  If it's a first review for a new girl I'm likely to be more tolerant.  I don't think that papers run every letter to the editor, and I don't feel compelled to use every review.  There are some trite phrases, such as the many variations on "do not be deceived by..." that I either edit out or I discard the whole review.  And there are some things I think are just in bad taste.

I am not trying to run a photo site.  I'm offended by pictures shot in a bathroom using a cellphone and a mirror.  You can take a good picture with a modern cell phone but many of the pics I get are badly exposed, out of focus and poorly composed. There are pictures that I think are just in bad taste.  I fancy that I run a PG13 level website.   I also get many really good high quality pics, and I'm much more likely to use them.  If you send me pics that are more than 1280 pixels on their longest dimension, I usually resize them, which takes time.  If they are not jpegs I make them jpegs.  My deal with the Valkyrie site, which hosts wb270.com, is that I don't compete with their pay muscle photo site.  I am not going to add new photos or replace monthly or more than about  a couple a year.  I try to limit women to 8 pictures, although there are women who have pestered me into more.  There are quite a number of women who would like many more pictures and want me to post new pictures every few weeks.  I'm not doing that. 

I'm trying to achieve something of a balance, so that one basic HTML format works reasonably well for small screen call phones with low bandwidth data service, and for people who are using a fancy iMac with a fast internet connection.  Hence you always have to click on a picture to see it.  I started out with a website intended for people who were mainly using a computer with a fair size screen, but most likely using something like a 9600 baud dial up modem.  I want to edit a lot of things (eg reviews) for brevity to make it easy for users with small screens.  And, frankly, a lot of long reviews are just embarrassingly written.

In any event, if you don't like wb270, nobody makes you use it, and if you do use it, you're getting it for free.

[Warhawk Overdrive]

Sessiongifrls website does a better job keeping updated than wb270 site.
I had sent the guy running wb270 site couple reviews of sessions I had.  One 4 months ago &  the 2nd last month.  NEITHER was ever posted on wb270 website!
The same two reviews I sent to Sessiongirls website and within couple days they were posted.
And the lady I recently sessioned with said she tried couple times to have her photos updated on wb270 site.  But the guy never updated her photos! And she,  after a month still waiting!
If the person running the wb270 site is too busy to update he needs to "step down"!
I think waiting 4 months for an update is more than fair!
I have totally given up waisting my time emailing reviews to the Wb270 site,  which 
And I know it can be done because the person running Sessiongirls website does updates in a "timely manner"!
As to "fake profiles",  there are those who's very good at scamming.  I don't think there's anyway to totally prevent it.

You apparently sent me an email of complaint a few days ago, complaining abut the non-posted reviews and photos.  When I went to find the reviews by searching for other emails from that same sender, Yahoo mail didn't find any other emails from that same sender.  It might have been because they wound up in the yahoo spam folder, or because you used a different email to send them. 

I don't give either reviews or photo changes/additions a particularly high priority.  I'm not trying to compete with Sessiongirls as a picture site and I think that few women change dramatically every few months.  My order of priority is:

1. removals - at least if the woman wants to get off quickly, which is often the case.
2. travel
3. new additions
4. reviews
5. photos

I will say that whether I use photos or reviews at all is an editorial decision I make.  I am virtually certain to use a tightly written (100 words or less) review about actual wrestling (or boxing) which I see as the focus of wb270.  A review that is more about you than the girl, is unlikely to be used.   A wordy review about muscle worship is likely to either be edited down, or not used at all.  Unless role play involves some element of real overpowering or wrestling, I may give it rather short shift.  If it's a first review for a new girl I'm likely to be more tolerant.  I don't think that papers run every letter to the editor, and I don't feel compelled to use every review.  There are some trite phrases, such as the many variations on "do not be deceived by..." that I either edit out or I discard the whole review.  And there are some things I think are just in bad taste.

I am not trying to run a photo site.  I'm offended by pictures shot in a bathroom using a cellphone and a mirror.  You can take a good picture with a modern cell phone but many of the pics I get are badly exposed, out of focus and poorly composed. There are pictures that I think are just in bad taste.  I fancy that I run a PG13 level website.   I also get many really good high quality pics, and I'm much more likely to use them.  If you send me pics that are more than 1280 pixels on their longest dimension, I usually resize them, which takes time.  If they are not jpegs I make them jpegs.  My deal with the Valkyrie site, which hosts wb270.com, is that I don't compete with their pay muscle photo site.  I am not going to add new photos or replace monthly or more than about  a couple a year.  I try to limit women to 8 pictures, although there are women who have pestered me into more.  There are quite a number of women who would like many more pictures and want me to post new pictures every few weeks.  I'm not doing that. 

I'm trying to achieve something of a balance, so that one basic HTML format works reasonably well for small screen call phones with low bandwidth data service, and for people who are using a fancy iMac with a fast internet connection.  Hence you always have to click on a picture to see it.  I started out with a website intended for people who were mainly using a computer with a fair size screen, but most likely using something like a 9600 baud dial up modem.  I want to edit a lot of things (eg reviews) for brevity to make it easy for users with small screens.  And, frankly, a lot of long reviews are just embarrassingly written.

In any event, if you don't like wb270, nobody makes you use it, and if you do use it, you're getting it for free.

And perhaps most important:

USE THIS LIST AT YOUR OWN RISK.

[crabdone]

Yes he's provided the list for free for many years.  Good on him and thanks for that.  With sessiongirls, the ladies can upload their own photos including recent shots showing their current condition. That is if they want to do that. Sessiongirls lets reviews be posted but not immediately.  I'm not sure, I guess they review the reviews somehow.  I look at both sites. 
Some of the girls post on one and not both.  There is a Follow Travels link on Sessiongirls that will send an email alert if you are watching for a certain session provider to come to your city.   

[wb270]

One thing about the current rash of session scams, where a new girl pops up on wb270 and asks for a deposit on a meeting of a trip is that the guy (or guys) who have been scamming wb270 users seem to like payment via iTunes or maybe Amazon gift cards.  I don't know much about either kind of card, but my guess is that once you get some magic number from the card, it's easy to turn that directly into cash, or something fungible that has cash value, without giving away your identity.   I'm taking some steps to make fraudulent registrations harder or more risky, but what I am doing is not ironclad.

[marvin]

I've read a number of reviews on sessiongirls and I've come to the conclusion there is no review  that takes place before posting.

Yes he's provided the list for free for many years.  Good on him and thanks for that.  With sessiongirls, the ladies can upload their own photos including recent shots showing their current condition. That is if they want to do that. Sessiongirls lets reviews be posted but not immediately.  I'm not sure, I guess they review the reviews somehow.  I look at both sites. 
Some of the girls post on one and not both.  There is a Follow Travels link on Sessiongirls that will send an email alert if you are watching for a certain session provider to come to your city.   

[Tiberius]

If people think for themselves a bit they should not fall for scammers so easily. I would not give a deposit to a new girl that has not been reviewed. Start out for a couple of months, then you can ask for a deposit.