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Aleesha Young FURIOUS After Omaha Pro Controversy
« on: June 22, 2017, 04:17:09 pm »
She shares our disappointment in her poor placing at this year's Omaha Pro.


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Re: Aleesha Young FURIOUS After Omaha Pro Controversy
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2017, 09:16:06 pm »
I watched this whole thing beginning to end and I took away a few things about Aleesha.

It was truth that she shouldn't have placed last.  Rather harsh assessment.  Another truth is the fact that the Physique girls are getting bigger and FBB is being told to size it down.  Like Palumbo said "they should just merge the categories".

Aleesha came off as very whiny throughout the course of the interview and Palumbo called her out rightly many times about some of the things she said.  The whole discussion about her genetics being the reason she can't lose muscle is a bunch of BS.  She could lose muscle if she laid off the PEDs.  She refuses to.  Don't lie to us like, this is poor old me.  I get it, this is bodybuilding, but she needs a reality check on the idea of what is marketable and she is dancing on the edge of what the average fan wants to see.  Right or wrong, calling it a sport is a bad noun.  Like Palumbo said, it's a pageant and its subjective.  Dave was laying down truth bombs.  Hopefully Aleesha gets the message and stays with the sport.

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Re: Aleesha Young FURIOUS After Omaha Pro Controversy
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2017, 10:09:22 pm »
I hate to see some one with so much potential walking away cause of criticism. ??? :'(

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Re: Aleesha Young FURIOUS After Omaha Pro Controversy
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2017, 12:39:21 am »
The only way to change this is to call it entertainment rather than a sport -- semi-follow the wrestling world's lead.  Remove the judges; let paying fans vote; have live interactive shows with different categories (PG13, R).  Still a competition so that urge to win will be satisfied... but to work your ass off trying to guess what a judge wants is impossible and its just to damn demoralizing.  If fans say no to you, thats a little easier to take.

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Re: Aleesha Young FURIOUS After Omaha Pro Controversy
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2017, 01:18:10 am »
I watched this whole thing beginning to end and I took away a few things about Aleesha.

It was truth that she shouldn't have placed last.  Rather harsh assessment.  Another truth is the fact that the Physique girls are getting bigger and FBB is being told to size it down.  Like Palumbo said "they should just merge the categories".

Aleesha came off as very whiny throughout the course of the interview and Palumbo called her out rightly many times about some of the things she said.  The whole discussion about her genetics being the reason she can't lose muscle is a bunch of BS.  She could lose muscle if she laid off the PEDs.  She refuses to.  Don't lie to us like, this is poor old me.  I get it, this is bodybuilding, but she needs a reality check on the idea of what is marketable and she is dancing on the edge of what the average fan wants to see.  Right or wrong, calling it a sport is a bad noun.  Like Palumbo said, it's a pageant and its subjective.  Dave was laying down truth bombs.  Hopefully Aleesha gets the message and stays with the sport.

Whoah. It really sucks that you call her attitude "whiny." She was by far the most muscular woman in a bodybuilding contest, in probably the best shape of her life, with few weaknesses, and she is told by the head judge who also happens to be the promoter that she didn't place so low because of any weakness, but because of being too freakin' muscular. That's a bullshit reason to lose in a bodybuilding contest.

She also explained the various ways they were disrespecting her. She's bitter, disappointed, and can no longer trust this new bunch of people running women's bodybuilding.

Dave was trying to get her to stay so he'd say anything: it's subjective, different judges will place her differently, so she should just hang in there. It was nice of him to say that. But imagine her level of frustration, going in to a contest where she blows the rest of the competition away by any normal standard – but if you want to be nitpicky and dwell on her weaknesses, then she's a second; third is already an outrage – yet she places 7th out of 8. If you don't understand why she's super pissed and not willing to go back there, something is wrong with you, my friend. Dave's "you were just overlooked" comment is, frankly, pretty insulting: it's so obviously silly that it really cannot be taken seriously.

Honestly, I don't know what the Wings of Strength people are doing. They are keeping FBBing alive, but they are doing really messed-up, weird stuff. They humiliate Iris Kyle, they bar Margie from shooting videos with anyone else and then they also don't shoot anything with her; their website sucks ass; they only sell 480p videos in 2017… WTF?!

The only part where Aleesha stumbled in this interview IMO was when she distanced herself from Iris. I get it that Aleesha sees herself as a prettier, more feminine bodybuilder, but she's making the same mistake as the promoters: putting artificial limits on muscularity, and tying to police what they perceive as femininity.

Seriously: female bodybuilding is about removing all restraints and reward the biggest, most muscular, most ripped, most proportional athlete on stage. Punish them for flaws, punish them for being too soft, punish them for big bellies, disproportional bodies, or a total lack of aesthetics. Don't punish them for too much muscle because it's stupid and wrong. It's like punishing a sprinter for being too fast.

I'm afraid Wings of Strength is not the saviour we thought it would be. It's time for a federation to step up and embrace female bodybuilding, with no ridiculous restraints. We already have Physique and Fitness and Bikini. Let Bodybuilding be Bodybuilding.

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Re: Aleesha Young FURIOUS After Omaha Pro Controversy
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2017, 03:09:00 am »
I watched this whole thing beginning to end and I took away a few things about Aleesha.

It was truth that she shouldn't have placed last.  Rather harsh assessment.  Another truth is the fact that the Physique girls are getting bigger and FBB is being told to size it down.  Like Palumbo said "they should just merge the categories".

Aleesha came off as very whiny throughout the course of the interview and Palumbo called her out rightly many times about some of the things she said.  The whole discussion about her genetics being the reason she can't lose muscle is a bunch of BS.  She could lose muscle if she laid off the PEDs.  She refuses to.  Don't lie to us like, this is poor old me.  I get it, this is bodybuilding, but she needs a reality check on the idea of what is marketable and she is dancing on the edge of what the average fan wants to see.  Right or wrong, calling it a sport is a bad noun.  Like Palumbo said, it's a pageant and its subjective.  Dave was laying down truth bombs.  Hopefully Aleesha gets the message and stays with the sport.

Whoah. It really sucks that you call her attitude "whiny." She was by far the most muscular woman in a bodybuilding contest, in probably the best shape of her life, with few weaknesses, and she is told by the head judge who also happens to be the promoter that she didn't place so low because of any weakness, but because of being too freakin' muscular. That's a bullshit reason to lose in a bodybuilding contest.

She also explained the various ways they were disrespecting her. She's bitter, disappointed, and can no longer trust this new bunch of people running women's bodybuilding.

Dave was trying to get her to stay so he'd say anything: it's subjective, different judges will place her differently, so she should just hang in there. It was nice of him to say that. But imagine her level of frustration, going in to a contest where she blows the rest of the competition away by any normal standard – but if you want to be nitpicky and dwell on her weaknesses, then she's a second; third is already an outrage – yet she places 7th out of 8. If you don't understand why she's super pissed and not willing to go back there, something is wrong with you, my friend. Dave's "you were just overlooked" comment is, frankly, pretty insulting: it's so obviously silly that it really cannot be taken seriously.

Honestly, I don't know what the Wings of Strength people are doing. They are keeping FBBing alive, but they are doing really messed-up, weird stuff. They humiliate Iris Kyle, they bar Margie from shooting videos with anyone else and then they also don't shoot anything with her; their website sucks ass; they only sell 480p videos in 2017… WTF?!

The only part where Aleesha stumbled in this interview IMO was when she distanced herself from Iris. I get it that Aleesha sees herself as a prettier, more feminine bodybuilder, but she's making the same mistake as the promoters: putting artificial limits on muscularity, and tying to police what they perceive as femininity.

Seriously: female bodybuilding is about removing all restraints and reward the biggest, most muscular, most ripped, most proportional athlete on stage. Punish them for flaws, punish them for being too soft, punish them for big bellies, disproportional bodies, or a total lack of aesthetics. Don't punish them for too much muscle because it's stupid and wrong. It's like punishing a sprinter for being too fast.

I'm afraid Wings of Strength is not the saviour we thought it would be. It's time for a federation to step up and embrace female bodybuilding, with no ridiculous restraints. We already have Physique and Fitness and Bikini. Let Bodybuilding be Bodybuilding.

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I'd like to hear this new standard being told to the men. Just don't want women the respect they're due.

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