HERBICEPS.CAM

[DRF]

Horrendous experience!!!: I used to be an on/off visitor( paying customer) at the site like 2 years back and decided hey why not give it one more try? Bought the 25$ credit package, just to sort of try it out and see BUT man, it was probably the worst 25$ I have spent in 2017 hands down! The performers without naming them were absolute disappointments, not offseason-bulking or any alibi of the sort, they had nothing to do with the muscularity-evoking term "herbicepscam" they were just egregiously out of shape! Some covered up during the free chat and then when the session went into private, you kinda know why they were wearing their bathrobes! disgusting!

You're paying here, so I think this would grant you the right to let the perform know which poses-muscle groups you like best...well no, one wouldnt even do half the poses I requested and would just sit there complaining aiming to drain your credits ofc. Others, would try to introduce themselves for 3-minutes- without a single pose- before posing....LAME! For me its once (since a while) and never again with this dodgy site!

[Duke69]

FWIW the girls know how much you  have in your account and I believe they can tell how much you spend on the site.  If they see that you only put in 25 dollars and have not bought other credits recently they probably figure getting 25 bucks from you is not worth their time and effort.  I am not ripping on you it is just my opinion of their behavior.  I have found that when I keep a lot in my account the girls are much more attentive to my wishes. 

[Elbe]

I have found that when I keep a lot in my account the girls are much more attentive to my wishes.

^ This. If I have a decent amount of $ in my account I'm suddenly getting PMs left and right. Not so much if it happens to be empty. Not surprising perhaps, just the way it plays out. It's a bit shortsighted from the models but then again it seems to be the way things work.

[LiveFree]

I have found that when I keep a lot in my account the girls are much more attentive to my wishes.

^ This. If I have a decent amount of $ in my account I'm suddenly getting PMs left and right. Not so much if it happens to be empty. Not surprising perhaps, just the way it plays out. It's a bit shortsighted from the models but then again it seems to be the way things work.

You're not dealing with marketing majors there, just women trying to make a quick buck.

[DRF]

I think the odds are skewed against the user, with the new website revamp I thought they got rid of the [waiting in premium nonsense BUT no] being able to see the performer in free mode is important- not to get freebies or whatever...-just to see whether the performer is in-shape or not worth the dime, hey, its business; they want money and we want to get the most out for our buck undoubtedly...The connectivity issue is another nuisance, I had one performer who was uploading content onto her website as she was going live/private and man, by her own admission, that messed up the whole experience! Man I will just stick to the tried and tested content from the likes of GMV, WPW, Muscleville at least the content they have on offer is most likely to be of the performers in much more welcoming display i.e. condition, make-up, demeanour...yeah we'll have to do with the flexibility thing but at least for me that seems like a more worthwhile compromise! 

[Bernie1212]

FWIW the girls know how much you  have in your account and I believe they can tell how much you spend on the site.  If they see that you only put in 25 dollars and have not bought other credits recently they probably figure getting 25 bucks from you is not worth their time and effort.  I am not ripping on you it is just my opinion of their behavior.  I have found that when I keep a lot in my account the girls are much more attentive to my wishes.

I think they can only see what your balance is, and if you are a VIP or not.  I doubt they can see your transaction history.

[ark [abracadabra]]

Agreed. I can't imagine the site owners would want to give the girls that much power. But if you load up 1000 credits, go to their room for 30 seconds, come back a few minutes later with 57 credits, it's not that hard to figure out.

[lj23]

FWIW the girls know how much you  have in your account and I believe they can tell how much you spend on the site.  If they see that you only put in 25 dollars and have not bought other credits recently they probably figure getting 25 bucks from you is not worth their time and effort.  I am not ripping on you it is just my opinion of their behavior.  I have found that when I keep a lot in my account the girls are much more attentive to my wishes.

Good to know. I thought they could see if you have $ in your account or not. Not the actual amount.

[drzinc]

I have mixed feelings about HBC. Some of the ladies are friendly and show a genuine interest in the public room; however, a majority will just wait in premium or fantasy - this feature cam back around 14 February. I am actually unsure how much information they can see - I have a few private email accounts for some of them. I may send them an email and see if they will tell me. Overall, HBC is good if the girl is willing to do a private in-person session and you can get a feel of what you think of the lady prior to booking an appointment with them. I have found this to be the most beneficial component of the website.

[femwrest]

Some models assume someone with lots of credits in his account is willing to spend and someone with little or no credits will not spend.  Which may not be the case.  I for one do not keep my account fat all the time.  In fact I almost never reload when I'm out of credits.  Unless I see someone whom I feel is worth paying to watch, then I reload.  So obviously judging a potential customer by the number of credits he has is not the smartest thing to do.

With regards to hiding in premium, well IMO if its a model who most people are familiar with and we know she's in great shape and all then I guess she can afford to hide 'cos she knows people will pay to chat.  But if its someone who is not so well known, who is willing to take the risk?  I for one am not prepared to waste even a few bucks to enter a premium chat with someone when I don't even know if she looks anything like her pics.

Which brings me again to another point that I've often bitched about.  Many models have pics which look nothing like them.  Its either pics taken years ago, or in some cases the pics don't even show the face so we don't even know if its them.  I appreciate that its not easy to stay lean & ripped 365 days and while some models somehow manage to do it, other's can't.  So the so called "off season" shape may be quite different from when she is about to compete or just finished competing.

Now if the model is in free chat then that's fine.  We see her pics, she looks super ripped.  We enter free chat.  Damn, she looks like she's piled on the pounds.  We exit.  Fair enough.  But imagine if that happens in premium.  You see her pics, damn she looks fine.  You find her waiting in premium so you go in.  Shit, she looks like she had 20 cheese burgers too many.  Sure you can exist but you've wasted your credits, no matter how little credits it is.

Of course some will argue that you had a choice.  No one forced you to enter.  Indeed.  Which is why I personally will never chat with a model hiding in premium unless I've chatted with her before recently and know she's still in great shape.  But I still feel that uploading pics that do not remotely look like you, or pics taken 20 years ago, is false advertising on the model's part.  She knows she is not in great shape now and if she was to upload her current pics, chances are very few if any people will chat with her.  So she choses to hide in premium and post super dated pics.

Whether that is ethical or not is debatable.  But I certainly wish HBC would enforce some kind of regulations.  Imagine buying something on Amazon and the pic and actual product look nothing like each other.  How would you feel?

[ark [abracadabra]]

I mean it's a porn site. The point is to get you spending money, and a ton of it. It's really not fair to compare it to Amazon, which is the ultimate customer-oriented business. On Amazon, the customer is always right. On hbc, the customer is never right.

[femwrest]

I mean it's a porn site. The point is to get you spending money, and a ton of it. It's really not fair to compare it to Amazon, which is the ultimate customer-oriented business. On Amazon, the customer is always right. On hbc, the customer is never right.

I dont mind spending money on a porn site if the model looks like her pic. Condoning models who post pics that look nothing like their actual self is like condoning false advertising.

[ark [abracadabra]]

Yeah, I get that. No one's going to do anything about it though. They're just going to say vote with your wallet and dismiss your complaint. I don't think many models have super misleading pictures though, at least from what I've seen.

[billybob101]

Yeah, I get that. No one's going to do anything about it though. They're just going to say vote with your wallet and dismiss your complaint. I don't think many models have super misleading pictures though, at least from what I've seen.

So hve you cammed there? I too have been surprised a couple of times with those that use outdated photos or waste time typing away while you're waiting for them to pose.  There are a few that are sweethearts and value their fans but they are few and far between the socially maladjusted or some newones thinking that if they have big boobs and were dieting that somehow qualifies them as being a muscular. Because of a lack of competition this site will continue providing crappy service to a paying customer.

[ark [abracadabra]]

I have seen a few instances of inaccurate photos (even one case of a girl using a photo of a different well-known girl). But mostly the photos seem fair. I guess I'm not super picky about perfect shape. In fact, I prefer not to see competition levels of bodyfat. The time-wasting, typing-away girls are definitely an issue. They're usually eastern european girls (Romania!). I think the Americans are usually pretty good. There are definitely some big-titted girls who really have no muscle. Businesses definitely get saturated with mediocre talent when they hear they can make a quick buck. Sometimes I wonder about how the girls who actually try hard do. I've seen some of the good girls show up on regular cam sites, where the percentage they earn is much less, and where they have to get nude and not just flex.