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Re: Denise Rutkowski
« Reply #360 on: July 27, 2017, 03:38:48 am »
I had the privilege of meeting Denise at the 1991 Olympia at the Shrine Auditorium in Los Angeles. Very nice person. I'm glad to hear she's okay.  Back then, news in the bodybuilding world traveled slow. It was also the public debut of Tina Lockwood (I'll never forget her in that dark blue dress. She was an unknown then, but drew more attention than a lot of the big name stars) and Sharon Bruneau (who did a posing exhibition in the expo hall adjacent to the auditorium). Sharon's doing well, despite the recent loss of her husband. I'd like to know if Tina, wherever she is, is also doing well. All were nice and I had a ball. Unfortunately, it would be the last major contest I would ever attend. I may make a more detailed post in the bodybuilders you met in person thread.
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« Reply #361 on: July 27, 2017, 12:45:27 pm »
I read her profile and read this......"Will be shutting this site down in a few days. By Denise MOM"


That message was posted in June, 2013.

In regards to the supposed Denise Rutkowski facebook page in the two quoted posts, turns out that Denise for a period of time has return to live and work with her mother. She got a facebook account during that period and with the help of her mother hence the message quoted above. However, her mother isn't tech savvy which is to be expected of a woman of her age , so had trouble deactivating it (Denise Rutkowski's FB account) which I reminded her of during our convo, I gave her some pointers on how to go about it, as she requested, and now if you click on the quoted  link below would see that it leads to nowhere because the account has been successfully deactivated. More details are becoming available but I have to make sure Denise's mom is okay with publicising them, for now, my goal to get some sort of consent to talk to Denise, only that would put an end to the maelstrom of secrecy, speculation and falsehoods circulating around this woman's life.

More to come!   

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Re: Denise Rutkowski
« Reply #362 on: July 30, 2017, 08:20:46 am »
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Re: Denise Rutkowski
« Reply #363 on: August 05, 2017, 01:15:23 pm »
It's just a sad story that she had some much potential to do great things, but mental health issues stopped her.

As always, anything surrounding this woman should be taken with a grain of salt; what evidence is there proving that she has mental issues? In many forums the notion that she is Bipolar is floated and kicked around again with zero evidence. She left the sport, justifiably so, after being swindled on two consecutive years due to judges' arbitrary, murky and subjective preferences (1992 NPC) and politics (no groundwork or sensual displays on stage- 1993 Ms O). Plus, she went and pursued what she felt most comfortable with, religion, nothing wrong with that. Yes, she MIGHT have been addicted to some stimulants but that's where we should show her sympathy instead of throwing her under the bus.

Moving away from the world of 'if's and 'but's, I had a short conversation with her mother, Sandra Rutkowski, today to see how Denise was doing this was her response:


Here is an image of Denise her mom kindly provided me with, hopefully this wont disappoint many who were expecting another mugshot photo ;)


Will provide more updates when, and if, items of interest becoming available.

Mental illness?  ....Since when does anybody have the right to make a diagnosis like that.   This woman was one of the greats of the sport and she made her mark.   Where she went from there is her journey and may have landed her in one of the best places ever doing what we should be doing, and that is caring for the well being of others and their future.  So many lives will be touched by that.

How many of us can say that?   Mentally ill ?.....no way.  She turned lemons into lemonade big time.

I am happy for her .

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Re: Denise Rutkowski
« Reply #364 on: August 06, 2017, 05:35:08 am »
I had the privilege of meeting Denise at the 1991 Olympia at the Shrine Auditorium in Los Angeles. Very nice person. I'm glad to hear she's okay.  Back then, news in the bodybuilding world traveled slow. It was also the public debut of Tina Lockwood (I'll never forget her in that dark blue dress. She was an unknown then, but drew more attention than a lot of the big name stars) and Sharon Bruneau (who did a posing exhibition in the expo hall adjacent to the auditorium). Sharon's doing well, despite the recent loss of her husband. I'd like to know if Tina, wherever she is, is also doing well. All were nice and I had a ball. Unfortunately, it would be the last major contest I would ever attend. I may make a more detailed post in the bodybuilders you met in person thread.
Would love to read a more detailed post about meeting.

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Re: Denise Rutkowski
« Reply #365 on: August 07, 2017, 11:16:03 am »
I had the privilege of meeting Denise at the 1991 Olympia at the Shrine Auditorium in Los Angeles. Very nice person. I'm glad to hear she's okay.  Back then, news in the bodybuilding world traveled slow. It was also the public debut of Tina Lockwood (I'll never forget her in that dark blue dress. She was an unknown then, but drew more attention than a lot of the big name stars) and Sharon Bruneau (who did a posing exhibition in the expo hall adjacent to the auditorium). Sharon's doing well, despite the recent loss of her husband. I'd like to know if Tina, wherever she is, is also doing well. All were nice and I had a ball. Unfortunately, it would be the last major contest I would ever attend. I may make a more detailed post in the bodybuilders you met in person thread.

Lucky you (on both counts!)!  Was the 'blue dress' that Tina wore the darker of the two (not the lighter denim one) she wore in her second (and final) WPW video 267?  Any photos of her or Denise from that show?
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« Reply #366 on: August 12, 2017, 07:50:34 pm »


Mental illness?  ....Since when does anybody have the right to make a diagnosis like that.   This woman was one of the greats of the sport and she made her mark.   Where she went from there is her journey and may have landed her in one of the best places ever doing what we should be doing, and that is caring for the well being of others and their future.  So many lives will be touched by that.

How many of us can say that?   Mentally ill ?.....no way.  She turned lemons into lemonade big time.

I am happy for her .

ALISON

More is being uncovered about this woman but publishing stuff is all the more challenging given the difficulty of reaching out to her for consent. Anyway, some tidbits for a bit of context before prematurely drawing uninformed conclusions to shape any impression of this woman, she had a challenging upbringing as she said in a magazine article interview "money was always an issue" and she was separated from her biological father from birth. Her origin is Pennsylvania Dutch and not Polish, Rutkowski was her given (step father) name which she got to keep after their parents divorced. This, in a nutshell, answers why she has and continues to given so much care and attention to kids wherever she is and whatever condition she is in which is commendable but people rather focus on misfortune instead...another rarity below, an image of Denise during the onset of her bodybuilding career...the reason she retired is rather straightforward; competitive bodybuilding is like playing Russian Roulette with ones health and wellbeing through we all know what...she was fully aware of the risks but when that was coupled with the subjectivity, politics and prejudice involved in the sport and mostly the sort she was actually subjected to in 1992 and 1993, for her, that was too much to handle. She chose a different path.

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« Reply #367 on: September 08, 2017, 03:41:35 am »
EXCLUSIVE: INFORMAL CHAT WITH DENISE RUTKOWSKI
19th of August 2017







Denise Rutkowski, a woman who after 1993 only evoked mystery, speculation and wonder in those who still reminisce about the years she dazzled the world of bodybuilding which she has parted ways with prematurely and controversially. Afterwards, it felt as if she had fully gone incognito with some fans, media outlets and past acquaintances claiming to have attempted contacting her all but to no avail and therein lies the crux behind this interview: what is fact and what is fictitious?

This interview doesn't answer all the questions and was never intended to do so; its legitimacy and validity are all hinged on photographic evidence. One, as per Denise's request, not to disclose any information due to the nature of her current occupation and two, to conceal the identity of the acquaintance whom was the main liaison in, and facilitator of, this chat.     


Question: What is your impression about the 1993 Ms Olympia outcome?
Denise Rutkowski: "Wasn't really fair. Joe Wieder wanted me to get big and I got big. Then at the contest they told me I was too big so I lost. For that place."

Question: Why did you quit bodybuilding so early knowing that you had so much potential to progress?
Denise Rutkowski: "I wanted to get out of steroids and no matter what level you're at there is steroids about it when you get to the pro level. I'm gonna be honest. There's drugs about it no matter what anybody says."



Question: When did you stop bodybuilding altogether?
Denise Rutkowski: "I think it was just in 95"

Question: What do you have to say to your fans and those who followed your career back in the day?
Denise Rutkowski: "To my fans all I can say is I am blessed being out of the bodybuilding business and not having to be on drugs amen amen amen amen."

Denise Rutkowski on steroids: "Steroids is like what a bondage feels, you have to take them because you can't get a pump without them"


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Denise Rutkowski: Her surname seemed a clearcut indication to many that she way of Polish background and heritage but after a conversation with one of her closest acquaintances, this notion was immediately debased. For more than can be comprehended, Denise was for the most part victimized by peoples' uninformed assumptions and this is only a minor example and testament to the fact that no conclusions should be reached without full information and context. Denise wasn't raised by her biological father (only her mother) and managed to adopt her step-father's family name; Rutkowski. Originally, she is Pennsylvanian Dutch. She was passionate about a number of things, most notably, bodybuilding and looking after the wellbeing of others (which she still does to a certain extent today).



Nevertheless, she seems to have faced misfortune and mixed outcomes in pursuance of both passions. Starting off with bodybuilding and as can be traced from the interview above, she was mostly on the receiving end of judges' subjectivity but even worse, the likes of Joe Weider a power broker in the sport- and whom is the progenitor of this relatively nascent sport and its commercialization- have misguided her with their loose expectations severely demoralizing Denise and effectively setting in motion her departure from the sport. Only a person with exceptional naïveté would accuse her of using steroids in an industry built entirely around performance enhancing drugs, while on that topic, Lenda Murray following the 1993 Ms Olympia in New York did advise her on the quality of drugs she should consider incorporating into her regimen and where to procure them from. For Denise, she had enough; the subjectivity of the sport and the inevitability of the side-effects to be incurred during and following the usage of such drugs were just overwhelming. Although she did train and continued bodybuilding but not on a pro level up until around 1995, she decided to more heavily pursue her passion for helping the underprivileged and went to/ enrolled in both Calvary Cathedral (1997-FW) and University Life Church (California) becoming a fully ordained minister by 2003, following the footsteps of some of her relatives.


Although she was fervently and unconditionally caring for underprivileged children during her bodybuilding days and before, that also may be equated to opening a pandoras box. In doing so, she was exposing herself to the unrelenting world of gangs, cartels and all the complications associating oneself with these entities entailed. Credit to her, even with all the reasons to tame her altruism she still manages to defy the pessimism in what she now does as a Minister which as an occupation doesn't pay much but Denise has been renowned by those around her for giving to others at times when she is in no position to. She simply gave much more than she received both in the sport she pursued and her unselfish philanthropic efforts as evidenced by her Big Sister program as an example. Now, these two “passions” shouldn’t be looked at in isolation as they are omnipresent and constantly overlapped in multiple ways. To illustrate, most of the winnings, earnings and royalties received during her bodybuilding heyday- when the financial spigot was on- went towards helping, and beyond that entertaining, children in need. She didn’t protect her image rights which many nowadays tend to do, and back then for many this wasn’t even considered, but she is paying the price for this today because when anyone of us goes out to Women’s Physique World or one of its offshoots like WPWMAX to purchase videos and/or images (of Denise) you can be dead certain that she doesn’t receive even a modicum of the payment made to these companies. Still not to discredit these companies, Denise did receive a lump-sum payment ranging in the hundreds of dollars after each session.


Essentially, the finances generated in her highly successful bodybuilding passion went on to satiate her proclivity for helping others, her second passion, unfortunately, only a few- if any- reciprocated and today she is left without, what could have been much needed, savings. But there is a divergence, her upbringing was noted for including heavy church involvement but as one of her closest acquaintances confirmed, she put the church aside during her bodybuilding days because of how obsessed and in love she was with the sport so much so that those closest to her had this to say about how infatuated she was with the sport: “Bodybuilding was her life, if she wasn't in the gym, I think she would've died. She walked or driven as much as she could to whatever gym she could find when she was out on the road for her seminars’. Even today when she couldn’t care less about that part of her life, she doesn’t have any regrets about any of the bodybuilding shows, the only regret she harbors is about having been involved in homemade wrestling videos. Still, reflecting on her short-lived career, those closest to Denise did make their ire known after finding out that she squandered her $20k prize after clinching second place at the 1993 Ms Olympia. She had to pay off her steroid overheads, with some amounting up to 5000USD, but the real point of concern for those closest to her was when she started lavishing the children she was looking after with gifts like bedroom sets, trips to Hawaii and parks in California. This further reinforces the notion that she not only helped these kids but, unnecessarily one might say, entertained them. Unfortunately a few, if any, even contemplated reciprocating back then let alone today where she remains in greater need of financial assistance.


Denise did receive according to one of her acquaintances around $1500 after her guesting posing and seminar shows but still even to this day Denise always had issues managing money, no matter how much she had at a given time. In terms of income, the absence of a constant and secure source of income becomes evident. Yes, she might receive a large lump-sum figure every once in a while but with the way Denise manages her finances, the risk of not having a stable source of income becomes all the more problematic. She did possess the skills to become a gym instructor, as one would easily assume judging by how advanced a level she was competing at, but that didn’t turn out to be a successful occupation since she was dismissed for often engaging in religious discourse “preaching”. Still, just because she felt compelled to do so didn’t mean there wasn’t an outlet for her to voice her religious ideals. As has been already alluded to and discussed, she became a full-time minister but as an occupation, and as one of her closest acquaintances claimed, hers paid only “pennies”. Today, she still faces some financial issues but the church and those closest to her make sure that all her basic, and a bit more, needs are met. Even during the peak of her bodybuilding career in California, she was still well looked after. In that regard, one can see that those who unconditionally give, ultimately receive. But altogether, she deserved and still deserves more.



I might get another chance to ask her some questions, so if you have any questions that you'd like to ask mention them on this thread and I will try to forward them. No guarantees and please only appropriate questions relating to bodybuilding,
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Re: Denise Rutkowski
« Reply #368 on: September 08, 2017, 12:49:21 pm »
What's important is she's happy...I hope.  Hat's off to her for what she has accomplished and still is accomplishing.  Storing up monetary treasure on this earth does little for the bank account for all eternity and it sounds like she's investing well in that regard.
Good for her !
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« Reply #369 on: September 15, 2017, 09:13:50 pm »
What's important is she's happy...I hope.  Hat's off to her for what she has accomplished and still is accomplishing.  Storing up monetary treasure on this earth does little for the bank account for all eternity and it sounds like she's investing well in that regard.
Good for her !
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Amen Alison! It is great to hear her life seems to be back on track and she's building equity in spirituality now.

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« Reply #370 on: September 16, 2017, 01:29:31 pm »
Yes !

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Re: Denise Rutkowski
« Reply #372 on: September 20, 2017, 04:49:15 am »
What's important is she's happy...I hope.  Hat's off to her for what she has accomplished and still is accomplishing.  Storing up monetary treasure on this earth does little for the bank account for all eternity and it sounds like she's investing well in that regard.
Good for her !
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Given the circumstances, yes, one can say she is content with what she is doing. BUT that doesn't mean those closest to her are. I might get another chance to talk to her  but from what I last heard she is doing her best to help those in need and most affected by the hurricanes facing the U.S. Southeast. Will update more later on...
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« Reply #373 on: September 28, 2017, 12:30:22 am »
She should have won at least one Olympia.


     

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« Reply #374 on: September 28, 2017, 01:41:59 am »
There was a time when she had a fascinating physique, when she was an incredibly gorgeous bodybuilder. And guess what: she didn't stay that way forever. Nobody ever has, nobody ever will. Most athletes don't even look any good 11 months of a year in their absolute prime, they just diet down for a show or two per year. And yeah, she has been an intense person, sexual, wild, with a huge heart; growing up with a difficult package, and doing the best she could in life, all the while always looking out for the needy and helping others…

People who pity her or judge her from their comfortable, boring, out-of-shape, hygienic lives, working office jobs, remaining reasonably faithful to an unloved spouse, never doing anything outrageous, but then also never doing anything too spectacular either… These people should look up to her and envy her for actually having lived, not just vegetated. Oh, so she didn't retire into a decent suburban home with a white picket fence, having polite conversations with her well-mannered lady friends? The freaking horror!

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